Comments on: Simple Error My Ass http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/ Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:39:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: W.W Anderson, MSGT Ret http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-285309 W.W Anderson, MSGT Ret Wed, 28 May 2008 01:33:22 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-285309 Come on Troops This was a effective ploy to gather information about our operations. Let face it. Every thing that was " supposed to take place was bought to light by our answeres. The old additive is " If i put out info that i know to be true, and infuses foolish babaling, someone will get me stright." NOw, I have everything i need to figure it all out thanks to you. Cut it out. We airmen know what the real deal is. Its bullshit. Thats all the world need to know Ret: MSGT W. Anderson-Bufs for life Come on Troops
This was a effective ploy to gather information about our operations. Let face it. Every thing that was ” supposed to take place was bought to light by our answeres. The old additive is ” If i put out info that i know to be true, and infuses foolish babaling, someone will get me stright.” NOw, I have everything i need to figure it all out thanks to you.
Cut it out. We airmen know what the real deal is. Its bullshit. Thats all the world need to know

Ret: MSGT W. Anderson-Bufs for life

]]> By: Just Wondering http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-35160 Just Wondering Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:52:05 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-35160 <a href="http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/10/its-about-that-mutiny-air-force-covers.html" rel="nofollow">It's About that Mutiny</a> It’s About that Mutiny

]]> By: Amanda http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-35138 Amanda Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:31:01 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-35138 As a former USAF Ammo troop, I have learned that although we are taught to use integrity from day one we learn that telling the truth to people of power does not get you the kuddo's that you think it might. Unless the Army Times gives up the name(s) of those who leaked it, we may never know....or they may be one of those who have now sadly taken their own lives for standing up for what they thought was right...using their integrity. The military has no place for those with morals. As a former USAF Ammo troop, I have learned that although we are taught to use integrity from day one we learn that telling the truth to people of power does not get you the kuddo’s that you think it might. Unless the Army Times gives up the name(s) of those who leaked it, we may never know….or they may be one of those who have now sadly taken their own lives for standing up for what they thought was right…using their integrity. The military has no place for those with morals.

]]> By: Just Wondering http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-34061 Just Wondering Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:08:22 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-34061 So, I'll toss out a question here... Is the assertion that Barksdale is where cruise missiles are sent for decommissioning true or false? <strong>Tough Punishment Expected for Warhead Errors Officers May Lose Commands After Nuclear Missiles Were Flown on Bomber</strong> By Thomas E. Ricks and Joby Warrick Thursday, October 18, 2007 <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/17/AR2007101702300.html?hpid=topnews" rel="nofollow">WaPo article here</a> So, I’ll toss out a question here…

Is the assertion that Barksdale is where cruise missiles are sent for decommissioning true or false?

Tough Punishment Expected for Warhead Errors
Officers May Lose Commands After Nuclear Missiles Were Flown on Bomber

By Thomas E. Ricks and Joby Warrick
Thursday, October 18, 2007

WaPo article here

]]> By: Michael Gass http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-29125 Michael Gass Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:42:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-29125 Besides that... Only two out of the 6 were connected with either Minot or Barksdale and AFTER the incident in AUGUST (check the dates on the others... JULY). Neither of those two deaths shows a link between the deaths and that the airman were involved in the incident. Besides that…

Only two out of the 6 were connected with either Minot or Barksdale and AFTER the incident in AUGUST (check the dates on the others… JULY).

Neither of those two deaths shows a link between the deaths and that the airman were involved in the incident.

]]> By: franKnarf’s bloGolb » Blog Archive » Ulllp. http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-28882 franKnarf’s bloGolb » Blog Archive » Ulllp. Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:24:51 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-28882 [...] former B52 pilot’s take on the recent movement of nukes: Simple Error My Ass. Read [...] […] former B52 pilot’s take on the recent movement of nukes: Simple Error My Ass. Read […]

]]> By: midwestvoter http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-28836 midwestvoter Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:54:57 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-28836 That was my initial thought too. Nuking one of our cities and blaming it on Iran sounds more like their style. That was my initial thought too. Nuking one of our cities and blaming it on Iran sounds more like their style.

]]> By: Richard http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-28833 Richard Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:44:48 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-28833 Nope, Haliburton. Nope, Haliburton.

]]> By: mareislander http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-28736 mareislander Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:10:15 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-28736 1.) I'm not persuaded that the missiles were moved from a bunker and loaded on an aircraft because armed missiles happened to be stored in the same bunker as unarmed missiles. I think that, even so, each missile would have had some indicators for loading crews to check--flags, tags, inspection windows, stencilled-on serial numbers, etc. 2.) Some general accounts of these missiles say that they are pre-mounted on pylons for quicker loading on the B 52's wings. If this is correct, then what happened is not a mistake of individual missiles getting loaded. Rather, two pylons of pre-loaded missiles were loaded on the B 52 by mistake. Misloading and then neglecting to look closely at two pylons and what they carried seems to me even less plausible. 3.) I've seen storage bunkers for conventional military weapons (bombs, shells) because I lived right next to a naval weapons station. They are, quaintly enough, covered with sod. One reason is that dirt and grass provides some buffer in case of an explosion. Another is that grass makes the bunkers, rows and rows of them, less visually intrusive on the landscape. This naval weapons station also stored nuclear warheads. I think that there were some special bunkers and facilities for nuclear weapons storage. All these weapons were moved about with forklifts and other large pieces of equipment. Even though the Navy never said *yea* or *nay* about the movement of nuclear weapons, it was common knowledge that they were typically moved ship to shore by air. The usual movement formation consisted of three helicopters. 4.) It crosses my mind that if nuclear weapons can be mistakenly loaded on a B 52 and flown cross country, then the various safety precautions and interlocks for those same weapons could mistakenly be inactivated. And an accidental nuclear detonation could take place. 1.) I’m not persuaded that the missiles were moved from a bunker and loaded on an aircraft because armed missiles happened to be stored in the same bunker as unarmed missiles. I think that, even so, each missile would have had some indicators for loading crews to check–flags, tags, inspection windows, stencilled-on serial numbers, etc.

2.) Some general accounts of these missiles say that they are pre-mounted on pylons for quicker loading on the B 52’s wings. If this is correct, then what happened is not a mistake of individual missiles getting loaded. Rather, two pylons of
pre-loaded missiles were loaded on the B 52 by mistake.

Misloading and then neglecting to look closely at two pylons and what they carried seems to me even less plausible.

3.) I’ve seen storage bunkers for conventional military weapons (bombs, shells) because I lived right next to a naval weapons station. They are, quaintly enough, covered with sod.

One reason is that dirt and grass provides some buffer in case of an explosion.

Another is that grass makes the bunkers, rows and rows of them, less visually intrusive on the landscape.

This naval weapons station also stored nuclear warheads. I think that there were some special bunkers and facilities for nuclear weapons storage.

All these weapons were moved about with forklifts and other large pieces of equipment.

Even though the Navy never said *yea* or *nay* about the movement of nuclear weapons, it was common knowledge that they were typically moved ship to shore by air. The usual movement formation consisted of three helicopters.

4.) It crosses my mind that if nuclear weapons can be mistakenly loaded on a B 52 and flown cross country, then the various safety precautions and interlocks for those same weapons could mistakenly be inactivated. And an accidental nuclear detonation could take place.

]]> By: Doug http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-28622 Doug Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:46:54 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/09/24/simple-error-my-ass/#comment-28622 Sorry "the Pundit" doesnt seem very credible. Sorry “the Pundit” doesnt seem very credible.

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