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	<title>Comments on: Sam Provance, Joe &#038; Valerie Wilson, and Ron Slater</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Please</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/28/sam-provance-joe-valerie-wilson-and-ron-slater/#comment-199426</link>
		<dc:creator>Please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.  Sam is The Man.  If he or anything he said was false, we wouldn't be discussing him right now.  He's bulletproof and has proved it over and over and over and over.  What guts!  He took Rumsfeld down.  Hallelujah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.  Sam is The Man.  If he or anything he said was false, we wouldn&#8217;t be discussing him right now.  He&#8217;s bulletproof and has proved it over and over and over and over.  What guts!  He took Rumsfeld down.  Hallelujah!</p>
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		<title>By: WeLoveYouSam</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/28/sam-provance-joe-valerie-wilson-and-ron-slater/#comment-195516</link>
		<dc:creator>WeLoveYouSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both Sam and his testimony has held true through thick and thin, everything corroborated and himself given the respect he's due.  He took it to the highest levels of our government--while still in uniform.  He has more credibility and bravery than anyone I heard of.  As for your sensational comments, I am sure even if there was any truth to it, you are taking it completely out of context (for your character assassinating purposes, of course).  Looks like you need to be the one doing research, Ft. Huachuca ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Sam and his testimony has held true through thick and thin, everything corroborated and himself given the respect he&#8217;s due.  He took it to the highest levels of our government&#8211;while still in uniform.  He has more credibility and bravery than anyone I heard of.  As for your sensational comments, I am sure even if there was any truth to it, you are taking it completely out of context (for your character assassinating purposes, of course).  Looks like you need to be the one doing research, Ft. Huachuca <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/28/sam-provance-joe-valerie-wilson-and-ron-slater/#comment-190752</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 20:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Samuel did what he did in an attempt to get back at his leadership for removing him from his position of leadership months before he was involved at ABU G. I was there Provance was a lunatic with that believed he is the reincarnate CAESAR, shown by a tattoo he has on the back of his neck which simply says "CAESAR". He also held Caligula (Do some research) in high regard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samuel did what he did in an attempt to get back at his leadership for removing him from his position of leadership months before he was involved at ABU G. I was there Provance was a lunatic with that believed he is the reincarnate CAESAR, shown by a tattoo he has on the back of his neck which simply says &#8220;CAESAR&#8221;. He also held Caligula (Do some research) in high regard.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/28/sam-provance-joe-valerie-wilson-and-ron-slater/#comment-70029</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are spreading the word.  I will keep linking to other sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are spreading the word.  I will keep linking to other sites.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you're not hard on yourself for your reticence.  All of your instincts at the time must have told you that that was the wisest way to be and that the best course was to get out of there as soon as you could ... just sorry it took you so many months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you&#8217;re not hard on yourself for your reticence.  All of your instincts at the time must have told you that that was the wisest way to be and that the best course was to get out of there as soon as you could &#8230; just sorry it took you so many months.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you beat me to the punch! That was going to be my next thought: We need stronger whistleblower protections and support groups.

For example: Provance sounds incredibly brave! But he hasn't been as successful as the Wilsons in gathering a support group around him. Wish there was something we could do for him?

Ditto Slater! The $48,000 fine was a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you beat me to the punch! That was going to be my next thought: We need stronger whistleblower protections and support groups.</p>
<p>For example: Provance sounds incredibly brave! But he hasn&#8217;t been as successful as the Wilsons in gathering a support group around him. Wish there was something we could do for him?</p>
<p>Ditto Slater! The $48,000 fine was a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Slater sounds like an incredibly brave individual.  Whistle Blowers/truth tellers have to unite for protection.

To think how many people have been knocked off by associates of this administration or within the military.  Terrifying.  The more they can get their stories into the press....the more the protection they seem to have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Slater sounds like an incredibly brave individual.  Whistle Blowers/truth tellers have to unite for protection.</p>
<p>To think how many people have been knocked off by associates of this administration or within the military.  Terrifying.  The more they can get their stories into the press&#8230;.the more the protection they seem to have.</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/28/sam-provance-joe-valerie-wilson-and-ron-slater/#comment-69832</link>
		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This summer, when AMC aired its first-ever dramatic series, "Mad Men," I watched the first episode and realized that this was great drama -- almost as great as "The Sopranos" for its writing, directing, and acting.  

But the fact that it was a great show wasn't why I called my daughter and DEMANDED that she watch it. 

She is too young to have lived through the pervasive, overt sexism of ALL American workplaces that I had directly experienced and endured until, eventually, laws were passed that made men nervous about sexist remarks and also made women realize that they were not primarily sexual objects, even in the workplace.

She is too young to know how confined, stigmatized and stereotyped were women who didn't work and were housewives and mothers.

"Mad Men" depicted all of that -- the permissibility of overt sexism in the workplace and the social expectations and constraints on housewives/mothers.

My daughter fell in love with the series because of its drama and its great characters.  She was also DUMBFOUNDED by the sexism of the time (1960 -- and earlier).  

We'd talk about each incidence of sexism, and I'd impress on her that that is how it was.  I really needed her to know that that was the atmosphere in which I was raised and spent my young adult years in the workforce.

I had many examples to give her.  In college, I showed one of my short stories to a male writer who complimented me, but said, "You write like a woman."  

I won't get into all the examples I shared with her about comments made to me -- Leslie's experience says it best.

We have come a long way.  But I know that, &lt;strong&gt;just like racism remains alive but is these days less overt, sexism also remains alive albeit less overt&lt;/strong&gt;.  It shows in polls for the current presidential race, with white adult men favoring the male candidates over the first female candidate to ever run for the presidency.  And in the white middle-aged male commentators on television who &lt;strong&gt;bristle vociferously&lt;/strong&gt; whenever there's any accusation of sexism ... they're old enough to have been part of the culture of rampant sexism and also to have been forced, by the changing laws and culture, to change their habits and their language, and I sense that somewhere deep inside they resent the changes forced on them.

P.S.  Because AMC enjoyed such success with "Mad Men," they are producing several more original series, and I can't wait.  Curiously enough, one of the creators of "Mad Men" was on HBO's "Sopranos" team, and gave the script to HBO, which turned it down -- every TV critic is astonished that HBO, which has no great original series airing now, would turn down such a great drama.  What's great, though, is that more people can see it on AMC than would have ever seen it on HBO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This summer, when AMC aired its first-ever dramatic series, &#8220;Mad Men,&#8221; I watched the first episode and realized that this was great drama &#8212; almost as great as &#8220;The Sopranos&#8221; for its writing, directing, and acting.  </p>
<p>But the fact that it was a great show wasn&#8217;t why I called my daughter and DEMANDED that she watch it. </p>
<p>She is too young to have lived through the pervasive, overt sexism of ALL American workplaces that I had directly experienced and endured until, eventually, laws were passed that made men nervous about sexist remarks and also made women realize that they were not primarily sexual objects, even in the workplace.</p>
<p>She is too young to know how confined, stigmatized and stereotyped were women who didn&#8217;t work and were housewives and mothers.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mad Men&#8221; depicted all of that &#8212; the permissibility of overt sexism in the workplace and the social expectations and constraints on housewives/mothers.</p>
<p>My daughter fell in love with the series because of its drama and its great characters.  She was also DUMBFOUNDED by the sexism of the time (1960 &#8212; and earlier).  </p>
<p>We&#8217;d talk about each incidence of sexism, and I&#8217;d impress on her that that is how it was.  I really needed her to know that that was the atmosphere in which I was raised and spent my young adult years in the workforce.</p>
<p>I had many examples to give her.  In college, I showed one of my short stories to a male writer who complimented me, but said, &#8220;You write like a woman.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t get into all the examples I shared with her about comments made to me &#8212; Leslie&#8217;s experience says it best.</p>
<p>We have come a long way.  But I know that, <strong>just like racism remains alive but is these days less overt, sexism also remains alive albeit less overt</strong>.  It shows in polls for the current presidential race, with white adult men favoring the male candidates over the first female candidate to ever run for the presidency.  And in the white middle-aged male commentators on television who <strong>bristle vociferously</strong> whenever there&#8217;s any accusation of sexism &#8230; they&#8217;re old enough to have been part of the culture of rampant sexism and also to have been forced, by the changing laws and culture, to change their habits and their language, and I sense that somewhere deep inside they resent the changes forced on them.</p>
<p>P.S.  Because AMC enjoyed such success with &#8220;Mad Men,&#8221; they are producing several more original series, and I can&#8217;t wait.  Curiously enough, one of the creators of &#8220;Mad Men&#8221; was on HBO&#8217;s &#8220;Sopranos&#8221; team, and gave the script to HBO, which turned it down &#8212; every TV critic is astonished that HBO, which has no great original series airing now, would turn down such a great drama.  What&#8217;s great, though, is that more people can see it on AMC than would have ever seen it on HBO.</p>
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		<title>By: PrchrLady</title>
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		<dc:creator>PrchrLady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leslie, my friend, I believe that you, have experienced hell on earth.  What a terrible thing to do to another person.  I am so happy that you do not ever have to go back there to work again... You are a very strong person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leslie, my friend, I believe that you, have experienced hell on earth.  What a terrible thing to do to another person.  I am so happy that you do not ever have to go back there to work again&#8230; You are a very strong person.</p>
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		<title>By: HoosierHoops</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/11/28/sam-provance-joe-valerie-wilson-and-ron-slater/#comment-69763</link>
		<dc:creator>HoosierHoops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Leslie.. you must have gone through Hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Leslie.. you must have gone through Hell.</p>
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