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	<title>Comments on: More on Torture Tapes</title>
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		<title>By: mudkitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/08/more-on-torture-tapes/#comment-80276</link>
		<dc:creator>mudkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just wondering what your point is.  I don't really think that you're all that "consumed" with my compassion, spirit, or deeds.

In fact, I find your comment, insincere.  At Xmas time, no less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just wondering what your point is.  I don&#8217;t really think that you&#8217;re all that &#8220;consumed&#8221; with my compassion, spirit, or deeds.</p>
<p>In fact, I find your comment, insincere.  At Xmas time, no less.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/08/more-on-torture-tapes/#comment-78807</link>
		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, not at all.  I worked for Clinton. I recognize his ability to parse, obfuscate and rationalize, which is much more elegant and superior to that of George Bush.

Besides, I do not hate.  If I see merits and flaws in an individual, I acknowledge both.  The fact that I may recognize and point out a flaw in an individual that I may admire for other qualities makes me a poor politician by current American standards, but not a hater.

Do you hate?  If so, who?  Why?  Do you find hate consuming more and more of your power for compassion in spirit and deed?  Give it some thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not at all.  I worked for Clinton. I recognize his ability to parse, obfuscate and rationalize, which is much more elegant and superior to that of George Bush.</p>
<p>Besides, I do not hate.  If I see merits and flaws in an individual, I acknowledge both.  The fact that I may recognize and point out a flaw in an individual that I may admire for other qualities makes me a poor politician by current American standards, but not a hater.</p>
<p>Do you hate?  If so, who?  Why?  Do you find hate consuming more and more of your power for compassion in spirit and deed?  Give it some thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Waiting in Texas</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/08/more-on-torture-tapes/#comment-78316</link>
		<dc:creator>Waiting in Texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for pointing this out. Buzzy left in March 2001, I believe. It was Mayo Shuttak (sp?) that resigned so promptly from Deutsche Bank (AKA ALex Brown) after 9-11. Sorry, my bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for pointing this out. Buzzy left in March 2001, I believe. It was Mayo Shuttak (sp?) that resigned so promptly from Deutsche Bank (AKA ALex Brown) after 9-11. Sorry, my bad.</p>
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		<title>By: mudkitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/08/more-on-torture-tapes/#comment-78286</link>
		<dc:creator>mudkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take it your point is you're a die-hard Clinton hater...otherwise?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take it your point is you&#8217;re a die-hard Clinton hater&#8230;otherwise?</p>
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/08/more-on-torture-tapes/#comment-78266</link>
		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believed that the Bush administration may have learned this from President Clinton.  Bill was my tutor, and he was, and still is, the master.  Bush pales in comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believed that the Bush administration may have learned this from President Clinton.  Bill was my tutor, and he was, and still is, the master.  Bush pales in comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: OleHippieChick</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/08/more-on-torture-tapes/#comment-78072</link>
		<dc:creator>OleHippieChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:) All Jose aside, I thought it was an insightful post. It can be picked apart at will, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> All Jose aside, I thought it was an insightful post. It can be picked apart at will, however.</p>
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		<title>By: OleHippieChick</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/08/more-on-torture-tapes/#comment-78067</link>
		<dc:creator>OleHippieChick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 00:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that's an ah-ha moment for me, R. Thanks.

Since bu$hler has destroyed all familiar terminology, I guess the USA's request has to include every conceivable alternate term for "enemy combatant." And for "enhanced." Etc.

Another true example of bu$hCo's ability to gum everything to death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s an ah-ha moment for me, R. Thanks.</p>
<p>Since bu$hler has destroyed all familiar terminology, I guess the USA&#8217;s request has to include every conceivable alternate term for &#8220;enemy combatant.&#8221; And for &#8220;enhanced.&#8221; Etc.</p>
<p>Another true example of bu$hCo&#8217;s ability to gum everything to death.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/08/more-on-torture-tapes/#comment-78030</link>
		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 23:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, his lovely wife probably thought of him that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, his lovely wife probably thought of him that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Retired</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/08/more-on-torture-tapes/#comment-78022</link>
		<dc:creator>Retired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a lawyter, but having been an intelligence bureaucrat for a bit of time before I retired, I can see how some of my colleagues may have parsed the US Attorney's request in order to avoid giving up interrogation tapes that may still exist even to this day.  Just as a an example, if the US Attorney asked for interrogation tapes of "enemy combatants," one way around this is that some of those rendered into special interrogation may not have been considered "enemy combatants."  Indeed, there may be several tapes of interrogations still existing that do not reveal any of the so-called "enhanced" interrogation techniques or reveal interrogator identities that have been retained for a variety of reasons, including instructing trainee interrogators how to successfully use other, nonphysical interrogation techniques involving positive psychological reinforcement.  It must be realized that field operations officers spend their lives breaking the laws of the countries that they are targetted against on a daily basis.  This type of lifestyle, over time, leads to the ability to rationalize actions that others who have not had such experiences would probably consider to be incredibly out of whack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a lawyter, but having been an intelligence bureaucrat for a bit of time before I retired, I can see how some of my colleagues may have parsed the US Attorney&#8217;s request in order to avoid giving up interrogation tapes that may still exist even to this day.  Just as a an example, if the US Attorney asked for interrogation tapes of &#8220;enemy combatants,&#8221; one way around this is that some of those rendered into special interrogation may not have been considered &#8220;enemy combatants.&#8221;  Indeed, there may be several tapes of interrogations still existing that do not reveal any of the so-called &#8220;enhanced&#8221; interrogation techniques or reveal interrogator identities that have been retained for a variety of reasons, including instructing trainee interrogators how to successfully use other, nonphysical interrogation techniques involving positive psychological reinforcement.  It must be realized that field operations officers spend their lives breaking the laws of the countries that they are targetted against on a daily basis.  This type of lifestyle, over time, leads to the ability to rationalize actions that others who have not had such experiences would probably consider to be incredibly out of whack.</p>
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		<title>By: mudkitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2007/12/08/more-on-torture-tapes/#comment-78016</link>
		<dc:creator>mudkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 22:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect cover for a Jack Bauer, retired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfect cover for a Jack Bauer, retired.</p>
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