Obama vs. The Democratic Party
By NoQuarter on January 2, 2008 at 2:30 PM in Clinton, John Edwards, Obama
The ‘net is exploding over Obama’s “mushmelon bipartisanship,” which in practice consists of attacks on his Democratic rivals “while recycling right-wing scare stories like the imaginary Social Security crisis, then offering himself as a healer.” Gene Lyons: “It’s the old Adlai Stevenson / Jimmy Carter too-pure-for-politics pose.” Ouch. Stunningly, the adjective “Broderite” is getting attached to Obama’s name because David Broder, the WaPo columnist generally despised by Democrats, is “forever cautioning Democrats about the political perils of not giving President Bush whatever he wants.” Ouch, that really hurts.
Scariest of all — because Obama is abandoning bedrock Democratic values — he’s a motivator for Mayor Mike Bloomberg to enter the presidential race. (See “Polls: Mayor’s Chances Better If Obama, Huckabee Chosen.”)
“Obama’s closing argument is more audacious than it seems; it’s an end-run around the established interests of the Democratic Party. He is angering — often deliberately — some of the party’s core constituencies; Markos “Daily Kos” Moulitsas and my Atlantic colleague, Matt Yglesias, have both (sort of) withdrawn their endorsements of Obama because of his penchant for allegedly using right-wing talking points to smear his Democratic rivals.” (Marc Ambinder, The Atlantic Monthly) [NOTE: Huffington Post headline today: "DailyKos' Markos Recants Obama Support."]
Obama is (1) attacking Al Gore and John Kerry (see Kos’s column), (2) attacking John Edwards‘ affiliation with trial attorneys, and (3) spreading lies about Edwards’ and Clinton’s health plans while embellishing the truth about his own weaker plan through a “Harry and Louise”-like radio ad. Further, Obama’s been attacking Democrats for a while:
Have you REAL Democrats ever seen this video?
Yes, the brash Obama called Sen. Ted Kennedy, a bedrock of the Democratic party, “a little old” and told him to “get some spine” on health care at a Chicago gathering in 2003.
Obama made that “audacious” statement in 2003 when he was an Illinois state senator running for the U.S. Senate.
Oh Democratic brother, where art thou?
Apparently BEDROCK Democratic brother is nowhere to be seen when Obama’s running for office, and any Democrat is fair game. (And what was the point in attacking a bedrock Democrat like Ted Kennedy when Obama was coasting to an easy victory over carpetbagger nutcase Alan Keyes?)
Here’s more from the always-alert columnist Gene Lyons, “No more Nice Guy“:
New Year’s resolutions. One: No more Mr. Bipartisan Nice Guy. Two: Less substance, more political theater. If you haven’t noticed, 2008 is an election year. Also, Democrats hold small majorities in both houses. Hence, mewling cries are being heard that ugly partisan wrangling is preventing Americans from joining together in one big joyous hootenanny and solving our problems. One Democratic presidential candidate, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, appears to be basing his campaign on this fond delusion, although his “bipartisanship” consists largely of attacking rivals’ motives while recycling right-wing scare stories like the imaginary Social Security crisis, then offering himself as a healer. It’s the old Adlai Stevenson / Jimmy Carter toopure-for-politics pose. Hearing it from a career Chicago politician may be a bit much, but there’s always an audience for sentimentality.
Oh Democratic brother, where art thou?
Check out Taylor Marsh’s “Democrats are Not Choosing Obama.”
Oh Democratic brother, where art thou?
Check out “Obama goes Harry and Louise: The audio,” by Jedreport at Daily Kos, Jan. 1, 2008.
Oh Democratic brother, where art thou?
Check out “Obama-labor relationship tense in Iowa — labor is another bedrock Democratic constituency that Obama has alienated and infuriated.
Oh Democratic brother, where art thou?
IN CLOSING, more from that story today on Mayor Bloomberg’s considerations for entering the presidential race:
… [P]olling taken less than a month ago by Rasmussen in two states in which Mr. Bloomberg and his policies are well-known — Connecticut and New Jersey — gives the best indication so far of how the mayor’s chances would improve if primary voters picked candidates outside of the mainstream.
Rasmussen found that when pitted against Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Giuliani, Mr. Bloomberg attracted just 12% to 15% of the vote in New York, Connecticut, and New Jersey. But when he was included in a battle between Messrs. Obama and Huckabee, his support grew to between 18% and 23% in each state.
In a putative three-way contest in New Jersey, Mrs. Clinton won 46% of the votes compared to Mr. Giuliani’s 38%, with Mr. Bloomberg attracting 12%. But when the two main candidates were Messrs. Obama and Huckabee, who registered 42% and 27% respectively, Mr. Bloomberg’s support rose to 18%.
A similar result was found in Connecticut, where a race between Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Giuliani gave them 45% and 36% respectively, with Mr. Bloomberg winning just 12%. However, when the contest was between Messrs. Obama (40%) and Huckabee (29%), Mr. Bloomberg took 18%. A complementary poll among New York state voters in November offered more alternatives. In a Clinton-Giuliani standoff, Mr. Bloomberg won 17% against Mrs. Clinton’s 42% and Mr. Giuliani’s 33%. But when the rival candidates were different, Mr. Bloomberg did significantly better.
Ouch. That’d really hurt.














Ted Kennedy should “get some spine” on health care? The guy who, almost single-handedly, has been trying to make the system more responsive to patients?
So where has Obama been on health care since then? Absent, I’ll bet, or “not voting”.
My sister still chides me for not supporting Kennedy in the 1980 primary, but as it was my first vote for president I figured supporting the incumbant was smarter than splitting the party. (We all know how that turned out. By August, when I was working in D.C. on Carter’s program to de-regulate natural gas, I saw first-hand the menace of Reagan growing and taking over.)
But especially during the last seven years, I have renewed respect for Kennedy, the way he has fought for the constitution and against unbridled unitary executive power. There are few Democrats who would dare criticize him and yet… here comes Obama, not only criticizing him but calling him an OLD MAN. This speech by Obama realy made me sick. The disrespect, the dismissiveness, the sarcasm, the precociousness — excuse me for pointing out that those are all the personality traits we’ve had to suffer from the current president! We don’t need any more of that.
I’m glad Guiliani is tanking, for a few reasons, but today I’m glad because the prospect of Americans having to endure a NYC freeway series, with Clinton, Guiliani and Bloomberg as the opposing teams would be far too much for most of us!
Excellent post, Susan. (Is this where I mention that some of the text got repeated..?)
>; )
I also am glad that Giuliani is tanking, but having a religious fanatic - i.e. Huckabee - as the Republican nominee is not very heartening.
I’m most afraid we will end up with that other religious fanatic — Mitt.
Let’s face it. Every one of the Republicans is a nightmare-in-waiting.
I think I fixed that, Shoephone. Thank you! (OT: Still using that absolutely lovely lotion. Keep it by my bed. Besides it working, the scent is just wonderful. I tell everyone what an issues wonk you are.)
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Re post: And now I hear that Obama is advertising on Drudge Report. Giving money to that rightwinger?
If Edwards wins the Iowa caucus, I wonder how quickly the Bloombergians will start polling on that scenario?
Anyway, this whole independent-middle way-bi-partisan talk is garbage. What’s the point of having parties if you’re not allowed to express partisan feelings?
If Obama starts winning the early primaries, will it be enough for Gore to jump in and save the day? Can Gore still make any of the larger states primaries?
Here we go with the Idealization of Al Gore As Saviour of the World again!
Where is the new kind of politics that Obama preached in the first few months? He is coming across more as a silly child then a serious candidate for the highest office in the country. Even Bush didn’t tick us off until he got into office. I have only 3 words to say to Barry GO AWAY KID.
Oddly enough, it appears that the more he comes across like a silly child the higher he goes in the polls.
Go figure!
If Obama does -not- get the nominiation, expect him to be Bloomberg’s running mate.
No loyalty. The DLC is to the left of Obama - at least they still -have- a party line.
“Here we go with the Idealization of Al Gore As Saviour of the World again!”
Most people “idealize” their candidates to an extent. I know Gore isn’t perfect, but he’s less imperfect that most everyone currently running. I prefer to idealize over cynical maneuvering any day.
Oddly enough, Obama was attacking Kennedy FROM THE LEFT and telling him to stand up to Bush. This was at a time (2003), when certain other people were going along with whatever Bush wanted (from Iraq to NCLB).
“The DLC is to the left of Obama - at least they still -have- a party line”
And yet, his voting record is like wayyyyyyyyyy to the left. He makes a few non-partisan statements and you folks certify him as an official Tom Delay clone.
He hasn’t voted to cut funding for the war and frankly, he could have done himself a world of good if he had bothered to show up and support Dodd on the FISA votes. But he was waiting to see if Hillary would, and she didn’t, so he just played tag. As always.
Susan @15:32: “(I tell everyone what an issues wonk you are.)”
Shhhhh….
…no one’s supposed to know I’m really just a nerd…
I know I shouldn’t tell you this but…I just bought some really nice aromatherapy air freshener
and it is so nice! You’d like it. Maybe I should start shilling for some of these companies for real cash money.
The bottom line on Obama is he is full of ____. He tells Kennedy, a fire-breathing liberal, ‘you’re too old, you used to be a fighter.’ Then he tells Paul Krugman, ‘you’re a 60’s relic, we don’t have to fight anymore.’
Ironically, he’s talking about Medipork Part D in the video. Medipork was defeated in the House, but Speaker Hastert kept the vote open all night while Bush strong-armed the votes to pass — exactly the kind of thing Krugman warns about.
Will Obama strong-arm to get universal healthcare? No, he conceded on universal before the fight even started.
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