Comments on: Politics Is A Blood Sport http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/ Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:25:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: 20-Year Associate of Obama Arrested : NO QUARTER http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-119228 20-Year Associate of Obama Arrested : NO QUARTER Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:14:10 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-119228 [...] the influence peddler indicted by U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald. In my Saturday story, “Politics Is A Blood Sport,” I noted that Chicago Sun-Times columnist Lynn Sweet pointed out that “Obama has never [...] […] the influence peddler indicted by U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald. In my Saturday story, “Politics Is A Blood Sport,” I noted that Chicago Sun-Times columnist Lynn Sweet pointed out that “Obama has never […]

]]> By: MPinSC http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118691 MPinSC Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:34:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118691 Any idiot who after the last 7 years can suddenly BELIEVE that the media's choice is a good thing for this country is a huge moron of epic and astounding stupidity. The people suddenly lapping up the media's swill like it was Dom Perignon are doomed to perpetual mental midgetude, if after all we've seen and heard from corporate media they are still so overjoyed to join them in their preferred narrative. Any idiot who after the last 7 years can suddenly BELIEVE that the media’s choice is a good thing for this country is a huge moron of epic and astounding stupidity.

The people suddenly lapping up the media’s swill like it was Dom Perignon are doomed to perpetual mental midgetude, if after all we’ve seen and heard from corporate media they are still so overjoyed to join them in their preferred narrative.

]]> By: anna shame http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118689 anna shame Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:32:00 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118689 with Frank Rich who needs pugs. Look, even this 'billary' thing is sexist, conflating her with Bill because there is nothing real on her. Personally if Obama wins I'd like it to be fair, on issues and not on innuendo, and playing the victim of Bill Clinton cards. it's unpleasant, depressing and goes against his message of hope and unity. I don't know how men see this kind of thing, but as a girl i'm offended that she's held to a different standard, i won't say higher, she is a fine person and there's nothing 'on' her but innuendo and remarks that make for polarizing. Great article, Susan, lays it right out there. with Frank Rich who needs pugs. Look, even this ‘billary’ thing is sexist, conflating her with Bill because there is nothing real on her. Personally if Obama wins I’d like it to be fair, on issues and not on innuendo, and playing the victim of Bill Clinton cards. it’s unpleasant, depressing and goes against his message of hope and unity. I don’t know how men see this kind of thing, but as a girl i’m offended that she’s held to a different standard, i won’t say higher, she is a fine person and there’s nothing ‘on’ her but innuendo and remarks that make for polarizing. Great article, Susan, lays it right out there.

]]> By: silver http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118512 silver Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:25:54 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118512 Bernie O, you made several EXCELLENT points about Obama on both the foreign relations committee AND the Rezko real estate deal. Bernie O, you made several EXCELLENT points about Obama on both the foreign relations committee AND the Rezko real estate deal.

]]> By: silver http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118511 silver Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:23:34 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118511 I don't see Hillary galvanizing the Republicans at all. I have many staunch Republicans in my family—military and business. The majority feel the way the NH Republicans felt—they're quite angry with both Bush AND the Republican party. The business people want the Clintons back in the White House to clean up the economy, and the military people just want the Republicans OUT!! I DO have a few religious zealots in the clan who think the Clintons are probably devil-worshippers, but they're in the minority (plus, they're crazy). The problem with a lot of the pundits on TV, or those who write books and articles for big newspapers—is that they usually don't know what they're talking about, as they rarely interact with real people. They actually have to HIRE pollsters to be the go-between for communication between them and the working class who go to Iraq, work in factories, shop at Wal-Mart etc. I think they're afraid they might get cooties if they actually spoke one-on-one with these people. I don’t see Hillary galvanizing the Republicans at all. I have many staunch Republicans in my family—military and business. The majority feel the way the NH Republicans felt—they’re quite angry with both Bush AND the Republican party. The business people want the Clintons back in the White House to clean up the economy, and the military people just want the Republicans OUT!! I DO have a few religious zealots in the clan who think the Clintons are probably devil-worshippers, but they’re in the minority (plus, they’re crazy). The problem with a lot of the pundits on TV, or those who write books and articles for big newspapers—is that they usually don’t know what they’re talking about, as they rarely interact with real people. They actually have to HIRE pollsters to be the go-between for communication between them and the working class who go to Iraq, work in factories, shop at Wal-Mart etc. I think they’re afraid they might get cooties if they actually spoke one-on-one with these people.

]]> By: BernieO http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118489 BernieO Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:50:20 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118489 Something is really bothering me about the Rezko-Obama house deal. Does anyone know if the price Obama paid - $300,000 under the asking price - was anywhere near the market value? Unless it was in bad shape, that is pretty strange since the lot Mrs. Rezko bought went for the full asking price. (And if it was in bad shape, why so high an asking price?) This was in 2005. Wasn't the housing market really strong then? Also, Rezko paid for the fence between the properties even though Obama paid for all the legal, architectural and landscaping work. There is a gate in the fence to Rezko's lot, a lot which Obama maintains. Obama kept dealing with this man even though it was well-known that Rezko was under investigation for corruption. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0611010273nov01,1,2716725.story?page=3 This looks like a sweetheart deal to me. Isn't Ted Stevens in big legal trouble for getting free work on his house? I thought it was illegal for a Senator to take these kinds of gifts. Can someone clear this up? Something is really bothering me about the Rezko-Obama house deal. Does anyone know if the price Obama paid - $300,000 under the asking price - was anywhere near the market value? Unless it was in bad shape, that is pretty strange since the lot Mrs. Rezko bought went for the full asking price. (And if it was in bad shape, why so high an asking price?) This was in 2005. Wasn’t the housing market really strong then? Also, Rezko paid for the fence between the properties even though Obama paid for all the legal, architectural and landscaping work. There is a gate in the fence to Rezko’s lot, a lot which Obama maintains. Obama kept dealing with this man even though it was well-known that Rezko was under investigation for corruption.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0611010273nov01,1,2716725.story?page=3

This looks like a sweetheart deal to me. Isn’t Ted Stevens in big legal trouble for getting free work on his house? I thought it was illegal for a Senator to take these kinds of gifts. Can someone clear this up?

]]> By: justsomeone http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118446 justsomeone Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:51:02 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118446 Taters, when it comes to public/private development projects, especially projects that are exclusively intended to benefit the poor I haven't noticed the Donald Trump type of developer step up to the plate. Have you? To use a Rummzism: You develope with the developers you have, not the developers you wish you had. Or you sit on your ass, play it safe & do nada. Taters, when it comes to public/private development projects, especially projects that are exclusively intended to benefit the poor I haven’t noticed the Donald Trump type of developer step up to the plate. Have you? To use a Rummzism: You develope with the developers you have, not the developers you wish you had. Or you sit on your ass, play it safe & do nada.

]]> By: Frank Naif http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118406 Frank Naif Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:56:58 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118406 Yes, Larry, politics is a blood sport. And the Republicans are smelling Clinton blood. If Hillary gets the nomination, she will galvanize the semi-literate Republican base. She will either lose and we will have a Romney or McCain administration, or win by a narrow margin and bless the nation with 24-7 paralysis and inane scandal mongering. Frank Rich's NYT column is a must read today, entitled "The Billary Road to Republican Victory" http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27rich.html (login required) Yes, Larry, politics is a blood sport. And the Republicans are smelling Clinton blood. If Hillary gets the nomination, she will galvanize the semi-literate Republican base. She will either lose and we will have a Romney or McCain administration, or win by a narrow margin and bless the nation with 24-7 paralysis and inane scandal mongering.

Frank Rich’s NYT column is a must read today, entitled “The Billary Road to Republican Victory”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27rich.html (login required)

]]> By: Taters http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118285 Taters Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:26:53 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118285 Bernie O, Good point. Bob Somerby recently wrote that Obama is getting a pass. He's hard on Matthews, EJ Dionne and Josh Marshall. I like EJ , Josh and Somerby - just for the record. http://www.dailyhowler.com/ This is wiki's entry on The DH... The Daily Howler is a center-left American political blog written by Bob Somerby. It was perhaps the first major political blog, started in 1998. The style is at once earnest and sarcastic. Somerby criticizes what he considers the media's frequently biased or lazy coverage. In his view, the media frequently latch on to a generally agreed "script" with little regard for facts that contradict the script. cont'd http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Howler Bernie O,
Good point.
Bob Somerby recently wrote that Obama is getting a pass. He’s hard on Matthews, EJ Dionne and Josh Marshall. I like EJ , Josh and Somerby - just for the record.
http://www.dailyhowler.com/

This is wiki’s entry on The DH…

The Daily Howler is a center-left American political blog written by Bob Somerby. It was perhaps the first major political blog, started in 1998. The style is at once earnest and sarcastic. Somerby criticizes what he considers the media’s frequently biased or lazy coverage. In his view, the media frequently latch on to a generally agreed “script” with little regard for facts that contradict the script. cont’d
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Howler

]]> By: BernieO http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118240 BernieO Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:19:16 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/26/politics-is-a-blood-sport/#comment-118240 I hate to keep repeating myself but why aren't more people troubled by Obama's blowing off his responsibilities as Chair of the Senate Foreign Relatsions Subcommittee on European Affairs? This actually supports Karl Rove's charge that Obama is lazy. (Whoops! Is it racist to say that?)It also smacks of arrogance. Obama was given a great opportunity to get foreign policy knowledge and experience before deciding he was fully prepared to be the most powerful man in the world and he could not be bothered. The House Committee on European Affairs has had many meetings, so why did Obama give it a pass? Biden held the same position and used it to become an expert on foreign affairs. I urge everyone to read both these articles, then ask yourself if Obama is really disciplined and serious enough to be president at least at this point in his life. http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002589.php http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2007/12/29/obama_europe/ I hate to keep repeating myself but why aren’t more people troubled by Obama’s blowing off his responsibilities as Chair of the Senate Foreign Relatsions Subcommittee on European Affairs? This actually supports Karl Rove’s charge that Obama is lazy. (Whoops! Is it racist to say that?)It also smacks of arrogance. Obama was given a great opportunity to get foreign policy knowledge and experience before deciding he was fully prepared to be the most powerful man in the world and he could not be bothered. The House Committee on European Affairs has had many meetings, so why did Obama give it a pass? Biden held the same position and used it to become an expert on foreign affairs. I urge everyone to read both these articles, then ask yourself if Obama is really disciplined and serious enough to be president at least at this point in his life.
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002589.php
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2007/12/29/obama_europe/

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