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	<title>Comments on: Despite Chickenhawk Commentary, Violence Explodes in Iraq</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 08:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mr.Murder</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/despite-chickenhawk-commentary-violence-explodes-in-iraq/#comment-123580</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr.Murder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 12:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Qaeda itself is now a small element of the overall picture. Operationally so, they still pose great symbolic value to the strategic perception of the role terror plays, in the Muslim crescent and beyond.

High profile terror attacks are down only because legitmate Al Qaeda operations are cyclical in nature.

Low profile terror is everywhere now and we have fanned the fire. This saps focus on the group most likely to damage our allies.

That's not the only item. The man we should have tried to co-opt, and at one time probably did when he was resistance to Saddam internally, Moqtada Al Sadr, could at any moment light a fuse.

There's a damned good chance he's found ways to establish influence beyond the region, via copycat groups, to run parallel attrition efforts. They just await inspiration, and we can't even act against him at this time for fear of making him a martyr.

Think of one person's statement becoming a regional trigger for retaliation, with groups like Hamas joining the effort in a way that overloads our capacity to watch over things. Al Qaeda doesn't even need to say anything, the only time they do now is when Bush is needing a ratings spike, odd that.

Suddenly Israel, Arabia, and Syria see new spikes and any one group's reaction to the threat could invite retaliation or be considered justifaction for further tresspass in the name of pre-emption.

Al Qaeda recruits its main assets from the ranks of the educated, even the affluent, the kind of people we have made refugees or dissidents, in these ambitious fireworks displays of empire.

So, people seeing the plight of those persons suddenly become hardened to the idea of assimilation, and that resistance drags down the high flying aspirations of playing cowboy diplomacy.

By static, by drag on the winds of perception, we're weakened and diminished in our ability to fight the opponent. This erosion wears at the effectiveness of any policy and intensifies the odds of collateral damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Qaeda itself is now a small element of the overall picture. Operationally so, they still pose great symbolic value to the strategic perception of the role terror plays, in the Muslim crescent and beyond.</p>
<p>High profile terror attacks are down only because legitmate Al Qaeda operations are cyclical in nature.</p>
<p>Low profile terror is everywhere now and we have fanned the fire. This saps focus on the group most likely to damage our allies.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not the only item. The man we should have tried to co-opt, and at one time probably did when he was resistance to Saddam internally, Moqtada Al Sadr, could at any moment light a fuse.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a damned good chance he&#8217;s found ways to establish influence beyond the region, via copycat groups, to run parallel attrition efforts. They just await inspiration, and we can&#8217;t even act against him at this time for fear of making him a martyr.</p>
<p>Think of one person&#8217;s statement becoming a regional trigger for retaliation, with groups like Hamas joining the effort in a way that overloads our capacity to watch over things. Al Qaeda doesn&#8217;t even need to say anything, the only time they do now is when Bush is needing a ratings spike, odd that.</p>
<p>Suddenly Israel, Arabia, and Syria see new spikes and any one group&#8217;s reaction to the threat could invite retaliation or be considered justifaction for further tresspass in the name of pre-emption.</p>
<p>Al Qaeda recruits its main assets from the ranks of the educated, even the affluent, the kind of people we have made refugees or dissidents, in these ambitious fireworks displays of empire.</p>
<p>So, people seeing the plight of those persons suddenly become hardened to the idea of assimilation, and that resistance drags down the high flying aspirations of playing cowboy diplomacy.</p>
<p>By static, by drag on the winds of perception, we&#8217;re weakened and diminished in our ability to fight the opponent. This erosion wears at the effectiveness of any policy and intensifies the odds of collateral damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Cowin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Cowin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And not one word about what the alleged surge was supposed to accomplish.  A space for Iraqi sunni and shi'ite compromise.  One hears nothing about the Iraqi Army or milita or government.  Do they exist?  Are they functioning?  No matter how long the Bush/Cheney/McCair/Neocon Clique want us to stay there, it is and will still depend on the Iraqis to determine their own fate.  Meanwhile by eliminating a Sunni buffer between Iran and the Saudi Peninsula, we could have destabilized the Middle East for quite a while.  Now the decider-in-chief with the Messiah Complex, has moved on to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and has pledged a Palestinian State before he leaves office.  Does he know that he is out on January 20, 2009?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And not one word about what the alleged surge was supposed to accomplish.  A space for Iraqi sunni and shi&#8217;ite compromise.  One hears nothing about the Iraqi Army or milita or government.  Do they exist?  Are they functioning?  No matter how long the Bush/Cheney/McCair/Neocon Clique want us to stay there, it is and will still depend on the Iraqis to determine their own fate.  Meanwhile by eliminating a Sunni buffer between Iran and the Saudi Peninsula, we could have destabilized the Middle East for quite a while.  Now the decider-in-chief with the Messiah Complex, has moved on to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and has pledged a Palestinian State before he leaves office.  Does he know that he is out on January 20, 2009?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Hoop</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/despite-chickenhawk-commentary-violence-explodes-in-iraq/#comment-122949</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Hoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not trust anyone in America to get our troops out except Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich,the various components of the neocon/neolib ruling elite being both corrupt and cowardly. Those who will get our troops out slowly but surely are the Iraqi insurgents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not trust anyone in America to get our troops out except Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich,the various components of the neocon/neolib ruling elite being both corrupt and cowardly. Those who will get our troops out slowly but surely are the Iraqi insurgents.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Cameron (hipbone)</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/despite-chickenhawk-commentary-violence-explodes-in-iraq/#comment-122908</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Cameron (hipbone)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 23:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren't there always lag times between the truth happening, the truth getting noticed by the wide awake, the truth getting reported by the diligent, the truth filtering through to the interested, the truth getting admitted by the recalcitrant, and the truth finally filtering down to the otherwise opinionated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren&#8217;t there always lag times between the truth happening, the truth getting noticed by the wide awake, the truth getting reported by the diligent, the truth filtering through to the interested, the truth getting admitted by the recalcitrant, and the truth finally filtering down to the otherwise opinionated?</p>
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		<title>By: Delia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Fareed Zakaria, January 28, 2008:

    The Democrats are having the hardest time with the new reality. Every candidate is committed to “ending the war” and bringing our troops back home. The trouble is, the war has largely ended, and precisely because our troops are in the middle of it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course anyone who was only mildly sane was waiting for the new uptick in violence.  But when I read this lovely bite, I flashed on an image of Zakaria sitting at a table with a bib tied around his neck with a huge bowl of stewed Newsweeks in front of him, and a whole bunch of us (you know, the sane people who always knew this surge thing was going to blow up), and we're force-feeding him the pages of the magazine, literally making him eat his words.

And that's about all I can say at the moment.  The brutal absurdity of our whole situation is just too overwhelming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Fareed Zakaria, January 28, 2008:</p>
<p>    The Democrats are having the hardest time with the new reality. Every candidate is committed to “ending the war” and bringing our troops back home. The trouble is, the war has largely ended, and precisely because our troops are in the middle of it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course anyone who was only mildly sane was waiting for the new uptick in violence.  But when I read this lovely bite, I flashed on an image of Zakaria sitting at a table with a bib tied around his neck with a huge bowl of stewed Newsweeks in front of him, and a whole bunch of us (you know, the sane people who always knew this surge thing was going to blow up), and we&#8217;re force-feeding him the pages of the magazine, literally making him eat his words.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s about all I can say at the moment.  The brutal absurdity of our whole situation is just too overwhelming.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred C. Dobbs</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/01/despite-chickenhawk-commentary-violence-explodes-in-iraq/#comment-122888</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred C. Dobbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any of these pundits/experts (except McCain) ever experience the exhilartion of actually being shot at and surviving? The Enlightenment of watching friends and comerades beubg rent suddenly asunder close aboard? 

One's POV depends upon one's experience.

Most of the bloviating on this war is done by those whose experience in these matters is, to put it most charitably, "thin."

It puts me in mind of being lectured about sex by a nine year-old boy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any of these pundits/experts (except McCain) ever experience the exhilartion of actually being shot at and surviving? The Enlightenment of watching friends and comerades beubg rent suddenly asunder close aboard? </p>
<p>One&#8217;s POV depends upon one&#8217;s experience.</p>
<p>Most of the bloviating on this war is done by those whose experience in these matters is, to put it most charitably, &#8220;thin.&#8221;</p>
<p>It puts me in mind of being lectured about sex by a nine year-old boy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob G. in Chicago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob G. in Chicago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I heard reports from the Obama "camp" that Hillary jumped up to join the applause line at the State of the Union (SOTU)address this past week .. OUCH!  I couldn't watch the SOTU speech (anger management therapy), but hearing that Hillary applauded the part of the speech where Bush asserted that the "surge" had worked certainly evoked a grimace.I hope that what I had heard was a myth, and I'm glad to see that she did not make any such assertion at the debate last night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I heard reports from the Obama &#8220;camp&#8221; that Hillary jumped up to join the applause line at the State of the Union (SOTU)address this past week .. OUCH!  I couldn&#8217;t watch the SOTU speech (anger management therapy), but hearing that Hillary applauded the part of the speech where Bush asserted that the &#8220;surge&#8221; had worked certainly evoked a grimace.I hope that what I had heard was a myth, and I&#8217;m glad to see that she did not make any such assertion at the debate last night.</p>
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