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		<title>By: qualaya</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/07/it-is-the-electoral-votes-stupid/#comment-1011576</link>
		<dc:creator>qualaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love obama</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love obama</p>
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		<title>By: pylon</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/07/it-is-the-electoral-votes-stupid/#comment-136781</link>
		<dc:creator>pylon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I am a Clinton supporter, I don't think this is a strong argument, simply because many states won by Clinton will vote for either her or Obama in a general.  And conversely some that she won will go for the Repub.

The real question is on electability is who does better in traditional swing states v. McCain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I am a Clinton supporter, I don&#8217;t think this is a strong argument, simply because many states won by Clinton will vote for either her or Obama in a general.  And conversely some that she won will go for the Repub.</p>
<p>The real question is on electability is who does better in traditional swing states v. McCain.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G'day justsomeone. 
&lt;em&gt;Since you appear to have bought into the evils of any nationalist soverignity movements, &lt;/em&gt;

Actually, I have been keeping some of my personal views offline as they are not, at times, productive to exchanging points of view and ideas.

I have two different views; and as it relates to human rights and labor rights; "we", as human beings, are indeed 'global citizens'. The recent advent of global communications truly changes the equation and is, in of it self, a force to be reckoned with, from a nationalistic point of view. 
I have a &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; intense sense of nationalism, and choose to, instead, look at the big picture. Which, for me, is the conflict between nationalism and globalism and the corrosive effect globalism it has on a given national identity. 
 For example, when it comes to labor, which is currently a national issue (pick a country), it is painfully obvious that corporate structures take advantage of a lack of a global "labor" structures which allow "them" to undermine union / collective barginning efforts. (ie if you don't like my offer I will send the jobs overseas and you won't have any;the Jack Walsh model) I am in complete agreement with the views of Senator Dorgan on this point. 
You make the very valid point that H1-B visas and other similar programs are another aspect of gaming the US labor market. (insourcing) A very tragic aspect of what laws our federal government will not enforce, when it comes to the citizens and legal immagrants of the US labor market.As a union officer, I was elected by my members to look after their well being and interests, not an easy task these days.

 My daughter was interested in entering the nursing profession and quite frankly, I was rudely awakened to the fact that even though the demand for nursing professionals is on the roof, she would have to get on a 2 year waiting list to even get on the carrer path of her choosing. Instead, the market is flooded with people that are escaping "the law, poverty and the army" and in doing so suppress many efforts to provide meaningful, well paying jobs to our sons and daughters. The bottomline of this reality is the dumbing down of all that was an American national identity. Labor is just one dimension of this, when viewed from a kites perspective.
Hope this helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G&#8217;day justsomeone.<br />
<em>Since you appear to have bought into the evils of any nationalist soverignity movements, </em></p>
<p>Actually, I have been keeping some of my personal views offline as they are not, at times, productive to exchanging points of view and ideas.</p>
<p>I have two different views; and as it relates to human rights and labor rights; &#8220;we&#8221;, as human beings, are indeed &#8216;global citizens&#8217;. The recent advent of global communications truly changes the equation and is, in of it self, a force to be reckoned with, from a nationalistic point of view.<br />
I have a <em>very</em> intense sense of nationalism, and choose to, instead, look at the big picture. Which, for me, is the conflict between nationalism and globalism and the corrosive effect globalism it has on a given national identity.<br />
 For example, when it comes to labor, which is currently a national issue (pick a country), it is painfully obvious that corporate structures take advantage of a lack of a global &#8220;labor&#8221; structures which allow &#8220;them&#8221; to undermine union / collective barginning efforts. (ie if you don&#8217;t like my offer I will send the jobs overseas and you won&#8217;t have any;the Jack Walsh model) I am in complete agreement with the views of Senator Dorgan on this point.<br />
You make the very valid point that H1-B visas and other similar programs are another aspect of gaming the US labor market. (insourcing) A very tragic aspect of what laws our federal government will not enforce, when it comes to the citizens and legal immagrants of the US labor market.As a union officer, I was elected by my members to look after their well being and interests, not an easy task these days.</p>
<p> My daughter was interested in entering the nursing profession and quite frankly, I was rudely awakened to the fact that even though the demand for nursing professionals is on the roof, she would have to get on a 2 year waiting list to even get on the carrer path of her choosing. Instead, the market is flooded with people that are escaping &#8220;the law, poverty and the army&#8221; and in doing so suppress many efforts to provide meaningful, well paying jobs to our sons and daughters. The bottomline of this reality is the dumbing down of all that was an American national identity. Labor is just one dimension of this, when viewed from a kites perspective.<br />
Hope this helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Franco Munini.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franco Munini.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama or any other...
What difference does it make? Or if there's another republican president?
I don't see any socialist candidate. I don't see elections from THE PEOPLE. One person, one vote, regardless of gender, religion, legal status or race. Do you have anything like that up there?
It's just corpo-money (which is YOUR money) at work to stage a show. You USAmeicans are trapped in the bipartisan game, the good cop/bad cop trick. ONLY money counts: screw the poor, screw the vets, screw the non-whites. Worst of all: screw the workers, keep 'em enslaved with mortgages and unpayable medical care and social benefits. What a pity!
Time to wake up and ask for a true revolution to use all that USAmerican potential for the benefit of mankind. Stop protecting the privileged, start protecting John Doe, get rid of corporate domination and indoctrination from status media.
Big corporations don't get rich by fighting between themselves: they feed and feast on YOU ordinary citizens.
Start a socialist revolution if you want a government of the people for the people. Take a look at Venezuela: we're fighting the same enemy that has transformed you USAmerican citizens into slaves... or lazy, uncommitting couch potatoes distracted from social reality by sports or gossip.
Think of social security for ALL. Think of a world with no motives to regard you as a threat. WAKE UP!
Franco, from beautiful Venezuela.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama or any other&#8230;<br />
What difference does it make? Or if there&#8217;s another republican president?<br />
I don&#8217;t see any socialist candidate. I don&#8217;t see elections from THE PEOPLE. One person, one vote, regardless of gender, religion, legal status or race. Do you have anything like that up there?<br />
It&#8217;s just corpo-money (which is YOUR money) at work to stage a show. You USAmeicans are trapped in the bipartisan game, the good cop/bad cop trick. ONLY money counts: screw the poor, screw the vets, screw the non-whites. Worst of all: screw the workers, keep &#8216;em enslaved with mortgages and unpayable medical care and social benefits. What a pity!<br />
Time to wake up and ask for a true revolution to use all that USAmerican potential for the benefit of mankind. Stop protecting the privileged, start protecting John Doe, get rid of corporate domination and indoctrination from status media.<br />
Big corporations don&#8217;t get rich by fighting between themselves: they feed and feast on YOU ordinary citizens.<br />
Start a socialist revolution if you want a government of the people for the people. Take a look at Venezuela: we&#8217;re fighting the same enemy that has transformed you USAmerican citizens into slaves&#8230; or lazy, uncommitting couch potatoes distracted from social reality by sports or gossip.<br />
Think of social security for ALL. Think of a world with no motives to regard you as a threat. WAKE UP!<br />
Franco, from beautiful Venezuela.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The borderless world jive usta be the mantra of the far right wingnut brigade of the Libertarian party &#38; now it's the battle cry of the Left. Full circle, Now Everyone change partners &#38; doe-see-doe. Next we'll sing "We R the World, We R the children..." &#38; then wind it all up with a little group step dance to the tune of "Bye Bye Job." Remember keep it tight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The borderless world jive usta be the mantra of the far right wingnut brigade of the Libertarian party &amp; now it&#8217;s the battle cry of the Left. Full circle, Now Everyone change partners &amp; doe-see-doe. Next we&#8217;ll sing &#8220;We R the World, We R the children&#8230;&#8221; &amp; then wind it all up with a little group step dance to the tune of &#8220;Bye Bye Job.&#8221; Remember keep it tight!</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teakwoodkite, I'm responding to your comment about what's going on with the long waits for U.S. nursing students. I don't have any inside info but have noticed large influxes of Asian nurses at public hospitals, nurses right off the boat, that could barely speak english. Perhaps you should address your question to flat earther Tommy Friedman at the NYT. Mr. portable, mobile workforce. One nurse I know told me the imported nurses earn less. How about a surgery junkett to India for a little hip replacement? Sound like fun? Since you appear to have bought into the evils of any nationalist soverignity movements, recall you saying something global like we're all global citizens awhile back, surely you won't mind having your $30+ benefits an hr gig "regularized" for the good of the globe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teakwoodkite, I&#8217;m responding to your comment about what&#8217;s going on with the long waits for U.S. nursing students. I don&#8217;t have any inside info but have noticed large influxes of Asian nurses at public hospitals, nurses right off the boat, that could barely speak english. Perhaps you should address your question to flat earther Tommy Friedman at the NYT. Mr. portable, mobile workforce. One nurse I know told me the imported nurses earn less. How about a surgery junkett to India for a little hip replacement? Sound like fun? Since you appear to have bought into the evils of any nationalist soverignity movements, recall you saying something global like we&#8217;re all global citizens awhile back, surely you won&#8217;t mind having your $30+ benefits an hr gig &#8220;regularized&#8221; for the good of the globe.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the deal is already done. HRC 4 Prez, Wes Clark  4 VP (to counter McCain's hawkish stance) &#38; Obama gets to be AG. The punch pullin' might just be our clue after that last luv fest disguised as a debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the deal is already done. HRC 4 Prez, Wes Clark  4 VP (to counter McCain&#8217;s hawkish stance) &amp; Obama gets to be AG. The punch pullin&#8217; might just be our clue after that last luv fest disguised as a debate.</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has nuanced about the "mismanagement of the Community Reinvestment Act" however he does it as a  throw away line &#38; never really goes at Hillary in any meaningful way on the topic. I figure his buddies in the Chicago School of Economics are hip to this, so why doesn't he go at her with it??? My hunch tells me someone in Dem Central has taken that option off the table.  However, it is precisly the dove tailing of the mismanagement of the Community Reinvestment Act on the coat tails of NAFTA et al that has us in the fix we're in. A moron could  figure you can't just outsource lots of jobs, while allowing run away illegal immigration &#38; legal immigration at a rate of 2,000,000 a yr + family, run a massive trade deficit &#38; then embark on an endless war without escaping disaster. Obama pulls every punch he throws. Why?? What's going on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has nuanced about the &#8220;mismanagement of the Community Reinvestment Act&#8221; however he does it as a  throw away line &amp; never really goes at Hillary in any meaningful way on the topic. I figure his buddies in the Chicago School of Economics are hip to this, so why doesn&#8217;t he go at her with it??? My hunch tells me someone in Dem Central has taken that option off the table.  However, it is precisly the dove tailing of the mismanagement of the Community Reinvestment Act on the coat tails of NAFTA et al that has us in the fix we&#8217;re in. A moron could  figure you can&#8217;t just outsource lots of jobs, while allowing run away illegal immigration &amp; legal immigration at a rate of 2,000,000 a yr + family, run a massive trade deficit &amp; then embark on an endless war without escaping disaster. Obama pulls every punch he throws. Why?? What&#8217;s going on?</p>
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		<title>By: justsomeone</title>
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		<dc:creator>justsomeone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kim, thanks for the mortgage tips however I own the house I live in &#38; have bought &#38; sold 2 others. If I want to gamble I'll go to Vegas, not some Countrywide knock off. As for Greenspan "selling ARMS",  that's a bit of a stretch. At the risk of really being redundant it was  Pres Billary that pushed THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT!!!! &#38; the banks &#38; their Subs took it from there...with many states usery laws set around 36% &#38; as Mr. Murder was aptly pointed out, bankruptcy laws eviscerated, the rest is history. Some states recognized what was happening at the predatory end of the subprime &#38; PASSED LEGISLATION TO STOP IT, however the "banks turned to the Treasury Dept's Office of the Comptroller of the Currency"...in "2004 the OCC issued regulations nullifying the state laws as they applied to national banks" ( author of quoted text, Nickolas Bagley has clerked for Justice John Paul Stevens.) Kinda sounds like immigration laws, states prohibited from doing s**t about them too. Youall are so fixated on Rezko, maybe you ought to worry a bit more about the fixers sitin faceless in their plush DC offices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kim, thanks for the mortgage tips however I own the house I live in &amp; have bought &amp; sold 2 others. If I want to gamble I&#8217;ll go to Vegas, not some Countrywide knock off. As for Greenspan &#8220;selling ARMS&#8221;,  that&#8217;s a bit of a stretch. At the risk of really being redundant it was  Pres Billary that pushed THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT!!!! &amp; the banks &amp; their Subs took it from there&#8230;with many states usery laws set around 36% &amp; as Mr. Murder was aptly pointed out, bankruptcy laws eviscerated, the rest is history. Some states recognized what was happening at the predatory end of the subprime &amp; PASSED LEGISLATION TO STOP IT, however the &#8220;banks turned to the Treasury Dept&#8217;s Office of the Comptroller of the Currency&#8221;&#8230;in &#8220;2004 the OCC issued regulations nullifying the state laws as they applied to national banks&#8221; ( author of quoted text, Nickolas Bagley has clerked for Justice John Paul Stevens.) Kinda sounds like immigration laws, states prohibited from doing s**t about them too. Youall are so fixated on Rezko, maybe you ought to worry a bit more about the fixers sitin faceless in their plush DC offices.</p>
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		<title>By: TeakWoodKite</title>
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		<dc:creator>TeakWoodKite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think she human. Has anyone spent 60 million dollars looking at Obama's past?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think she human. Has anyone spent 60 million dollars looking at Obama&#8217;s past?</p>
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