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		<title>By: No Blood for Hubris</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/11/wide-open-thread/#comment-135603</link>
		<dc:creator>No Blood for Hubris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"What about all the trash talk coming from Tucker Carlson?  How about all the mean questions that Tim Russert throws out?  Get real, and leave David alone now."

You seem to be unaware that all of the above are under fire for their endless sniggering sexism.  They should suspend all of them, and fire Chris Matthews.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What about all the trash talk coming from Tucker Carlson?  How about all the mean questions that Tim Russert throws out?  Get real, and leave David alone now.&#8221;</p>
<p>You seem to be unaware that all of the above are under fire for their endless sniggering sexism.  They should suspend all of them, and fire Chris Matthews.</p>
<p><a href="http://mediamatters.org" rel="nofollow">http://mediamatters.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: kenoshaMarge</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/11/wide-open-thread/#comment-135281</link>
		<dc:creator>kenoshaMarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This "blog" is one of the few, the very damn few that is pro Hillary Clinton. Air America was supposed to be about leveling the playing field. Tell me where to go to find a radio station that's gives me both sides of the story. That's not just fair, that's ethical. When a so-called liberal radio station slants all it's programming to one candidate or another during a primary it is a little more problematic than "fair". It's about giving people both sides of the story and thinking that maybe, just maybe, voters with enough information, and not propaganda, might be able to make up their own minds.

But evidently Air Obama doesn't trust the voters. They were adamantly against the slanted playing field when conservative talk radio did it. Now it's apparent they didn't really want a level playing field, they just wanted one slanted their way.

And in the end, for radio, as for blogs, if we don't like it, we don't go there. For Air America that is a little more of a problem than just touting one candidate over another. They are a commerical enterprise and angering listeners enough that they no longer tune in is a business consideration too. If they annoy enough listeners and enough people that were loyal listeners tune out, then Obama may win, but in the long run, Air America will lose. Personally I won't find that much of a loss. They were supposed to be a radio station for liberals. They ended up being a radio station for Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;blog&#8221; is one of the few, the very damn few that is pro Hillary Clinton. Air America was supposed to be about leveling the playing field. Tell me where to go to find a radio station that&#8217;s gives me both sides of the story. That&#8217;s not just fair, that&#8217;s ethical. When a so-called liberal radio station slants all it&#8217;s programming to one candidate or another during a primary it is a little more problematic than &#8220;fair&#8221;. It&#8217;s about giving people both sides of the story and thinking that maybe, just maybe, voters with enough information, and not propaganda, might be able to make up their own minds.</p>
<p>But evidently Air Obama doesn&#8217;t trust the voters. They were adamantly against the slanted playing field when conservative talk radio did it. Now it&#8217;s apparent they didn&#8217;t really want a level playing field, they just wanted one slanted their way.</p>
<p>And in the end, for radio, as for blogs, if we don&#8217;t like it, we don&#8217;t go there. For Air America that is a little more of a problem than just touting one candidate over another. They are a commerical enterprise and angering listeners enough that they no longer tune in is a business consideration too. If they annoy enough listeners and enough people that were loyal listeners tune out, then Obama may win, but in the long run, Air America will lose. Personally I won&#8217;t find that much of a loss. They were supposed to be a radio station for liberals. They ended up being a radio station for Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Shirin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/11/wide-open-thread/#comment-134556</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are talk hosts on KGO (out of San Francisco, and as far as I know the biggest, baddest news and talk station in the country - certainly the most award-winning) who support, or at least do not dis Hillary. After dark, you should be able to hear KGO on your radio in Seattle as it has a huge range. You can also listen online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are talk hosts on KGO (out of San Francisco, and as far as I know the biggest, baddest news and talk station in the country - certainly the most award-winning) who support, or at least do not dis Hillary. After dark, you should be able to hear KGO on your radio in Seattle as it has a huge range. You can also listen online.</p>
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		<title>By: bama_barrron</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/11/wide-open-thread/#comment-134535</link>
		<dc:creator>bama_barrron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 00:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fred 24 hours ago i would have disagreed with you ... but after today's show ... rhodes lost me as a listener. while pretending to be neutral she went into a screed about the super delegate situation ... she tried to sound like she wasnt anti-clinton but 85% of her remarks were slanted at attacking bill and chelsea. worse yet, when the callers started to disagree with her ... she angrily stated that if the super delegates decided the nomination she would vote for john mccain.

well fuck her ... and the horse she rode in on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fred 24 hours ago i would have disagreed with you &#8230; but after today&#8217;s show &#8230; rhodes lost me as a listener. while pretending to be neutral she went into a screed about the super delegate situation &#8230; she tried to sound like she wasnt anti-clinton but 85% of her remarks were slanted at attacking bill and chelsea. worse yet, when the callers started to disagree with her &#8230; she angrily stated that if the super delegates decided the nomination she would vote for john mccain.</p>
<p>well fuck her &#8230; and the horse she rode in on.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Howell</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/11/wide-open-thread/#comment-134496</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CalGal - 

     I don't care if David Schuster wants to be properly labled as a Barack Hussein Obama fan and Hillary Rodham Clinton hater and appear on Bill Maher or some other idiotic show.  

     But he doesn't belong on a network as a regular journalist reporter.  A rank editorialist perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CalGal - </p>
<p>     I don&#8217;t care if David Schuster wants to be properly labled as a Barack Hussein Obama fan and Hillary Rodham Clinton hater and appear on Bill Maher or some other idiotic show.  </p>
<p>     But he doesn&#8217;t belong on a network as a regular journalist reporter.  A rank editorialist perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: CalGal</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/11/wide-open-thread/#comment-134460</link>
		<dc:creator>CalGal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know this is the first time David Schuster has made a inappropriate verbal slip in all the excellent reporting he has done on MSNBC.  I have written that I'd like MSNBC to replace Chris Matthews with Schuster.  Chris Matthews makes obnoxious sexist remarks almost daily.  So, as far as I'm concerned MSNBC has taken appropriate action to chastise Schuster and people should shut up and get on with it.  In all the talk radio shows I listen to (liberal) it seems the people calling in to complain about anything are the Hillary Clinton people.  I see desperation in the Clinton camp, and people are being taken out in their wake.

What about all the trash talk coming from Tucker Carlson?  How about all the mean questions that Tim Russert throws out?  Get real, and leave David alone now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know this is the first time David Schuster has made a inappropriate verbal slip in all the excellent reporting he has done on MSNBC.  I have written that I&#8217;d like MSNBC to replace Chris Matthews with Schuster.  Chris Matthews makes obnoxious sexist remarks almost daily.  So, as far as I&#8217;m concerned MSNBC has taken appropriate action to chastise Schuster and people should shut up and get on with it.  In all the talk radio shows I listen to (liberal) it seems the people calling in to complain about anything are the Hillary Clinton people.  I see desperation in the Clinton camp, and people are being taken out in their wake.</p>
<p>What about all the trash talk coming from Tucker Carlson?  How about all the mean questions that Tim Russert throws out?  Get real, and leave David alone now.</p>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/11/wide-open-thread/#comment-134397</link>
		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the word "fair" in the dictionary once, it resides about halfway between fail and fart.
I still cannot worry excessively about McCain, either of the two dems will eat his lunch, skin his cat and expose his butt crack without too much problem.  Obama might be a bit more polite in doing it, Clinton a bit less polite.  The dem nominee starts with 60+% of the populace and 70+% of the voting population being against further war in the middle east.  The fundies have discovered just how much the republican party loves them and are restive.  A Huckabee third party run is not beyond the realm of possibility.
It should be noted that McCain fared just as well as Hillary last weekend.  If the Washington state Republican chairman had not stopped the vote count at 89%, McCain would have gone 0 for 3.
He still might because Huck is pissed.  He knows and everyone with more than 0 eyes knows that Huck got jobbed, screwed, blued and tattooed.
Now isn't that some useful ammo. " McCain the maverick who can only win when the votes are not fully counted." "McCain the thieves hero." 
Here is CK's projection should McCain survive to election day, he will do as well as McGovern and Mondale did but not as well as Dukakis or Goldwater did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the word &#8220;fair&#8221; in the dictionary once, it resides about halfway between fail and fart.<br />
I still cannot worry excessively about McCain, either of the two dems will eat his lunch, skin his cat and expose his butt crack without too much problem.  Obama might be a bit more polite in doing it, Clinton a bit less polite.  The dem nominee starts with 60+% of the populace and 70+% of the voting population being against further war in the middle east.  The fundies have discovered just how much the republican party loves them and are restive.  A Huckabee third party run is not beyond the realm of possibility.<br />
It should be noted that McCain fared just as well as Hillary last weekend.  If the Washington state Republican chairman had not stopped the vote count at 89%, McCain would have gone 0 for 3.<br />
He still might because Huck is pissed.  He knows and everyone with more than 0 eyes knows that Huck got jobbed, screwed, blued and tattooed.<br />
Now isn&#8217;t that some useful ammo. &#8221; McCain the maverick who can only win when the votes are not fully counted.&#8221; &#8220;McCain the thieves hero.&#8221;<br />
Here is CK&#8217;s projection should McCain survive to election day, he will do as well as McGovern and Mondale did but not as well as Dukakis or Goldwater did.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Keyes</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/11/wide-open-thread/#comment-134368</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Keyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 20:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Air America is anti Hillary-pro Obama and thats not "fair:?have to be "fair"?  This blog is pro Hillary and anti Obama and I dont think that is "fair". So its "ok" for this blog to unfair or biased towards one candidate or another but it is not ok for Air America to be unfair or biased towards one candidate.

This kind of illogical emotionally based rhetoric is going to do wonders for dividing the party all the way to the convention and further guaranteeing a McCain Presidency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Air America is anti Hillary-pro Obama and thats not &#8220;fair:?have to be &#8220;fair&#8221;?  This blog is pro Hillary and anti Obama and I dont think that is &#8220;fair&#8221;. So its &#8220;ok&#8221; for this blog to unfair or biased towards one candidate or another but it is not ok for Air America to be unfair or biased towards one candidate.</p>
<p>This kind of illogical emotionally based rhetoric is going to do wonders for dividing the party all the way to the convention and further guaranteeing a McCain Presidency.</p>
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		<title>By: lemonv</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/11/wide-open-thread/#comment-134260</link>
		<dc:creator>lemonv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not know that Hillary is such a powerful person that had she voted no on the Iraqi resolution, then everybody ( or at least 2/3) who voted yes on the same resolution would now vote no with her. And add to the fact that it was still a Repub dominated Congress. 

To me, even if she had voted no, that Iraqi resolution would have still passed.

I love this when Hillary said this during the last debate in LA: "It took a Clinton to clean up after the 1st Bush mess and it will take up another Clinton to clean up after the 2nd Bush mess."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not know that Hillary is such a powerful person that had she voted no on the Iraqi resolution, then everybody ( or at least 2/3) who voted yes on the same resolution would now vote no with her. And add to the fact that it was still a Repub dominated Congress. </p>
<p>To me, even if she had voted no, that Iraqi resolution would have still passed.</p>
<p>I love this when Hillary said this during the last debate in LA: &#8220;It took a Clinton to clean up after the 1st Bush mess and it will take up another Clinton to clean up after the 2nd Bush mess.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BluestBlue</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/11/wide-open-thread/#comment-134199</link>
		<dc:creator>BluestBlue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, not true about Thom Hartman. 

I listened for a short time in the car this weekend and he promoted the meme that Hillary did something wrong in FL and Michigan. It may have been a repeat since it was on the weekend, but you can go back and listen if you don't believe it.

Despite the fact that it was Obama that ran ads in FL and also did a news conference in FL, both against the rules.

Hillary's name was on the ballot in MI because the pledge didn't require her to request its removal. Edwards and Obama asked for theirs to be removed (dumb move). All their names were on the Ballot in FL.

Hillary didn't campaign in FL. She spoke AFTER the polls closed, as Obama could have. Obama  knew he wasn't going to win so he is playing the game this way.

Obama at his FL news conference suggested the delegates should count way back in September... he is just flip flopping now because he lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, not true about Thom Hartman. </p>
<p>I listened for a short time in the car this weekend and he promoted the meme that Hillary did something wrong in FL and Michigan. It may have been a repeat since it was on the weekend, but you can go back and listen if you don&#8217;t believe it.</p>
<p>Despite the fact that it was Obama that ran ads in FL and also did a news conference in FL, both against the rules.</p>
<p>Hillary&#8217;s name was on the ballot in MI because the pledge didn&#8217;t require her to request its removal. Edwards and Obama asked for theirs to be removed (dumb move). All their names were on the Ballot in FL.</p>
<p>Hillary didn&#8217;t campaign in FL. She spoke AFTER the polls closed, as Obama could have. Obama  knew he wasn&#8217;t going to win so he is playing the game this way.</p>
<p>Obama at his FL news conference suggested the delegates should count way back in September&#8230; he is just flip flopping now because he lost.</p>
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