Information Warfare
By Larry Johnson on February 20, 2008 at 9:22 PM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs
DCMedia Girl told me the other day that this year the media is doing the worst job ever of providing honest, genuine investigative reporting. Damn is she right. Two examples.
First, tonight’s breaking news about John McCain and his alleged political sexual relationship with lobbyist Vicky Iseman. I learned of this story in December 2007. I know one of the sources for the story. And I know that both the New York Times and USA Today were sitting on the story. Do you think Republicans would have wanted to know this information in December before the primaries started? I think so. But the New York Times decided, hell, let’s wait till McCain has it sewn up.
Second, Obama’s ties to a one time communist (Frank Marshall Davis see also) and self-confessed terrorist (William Ayers) (at least this is how the Republicans will be certain to play this info). This information has started to trickle out, finally, but no thanks to the news media. In fact, I was contacted Monday afternoon by the Washington Post’s Michael Dobbs. He wrote:
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:06:37
To:LCJohnson@BERG-assoc.com
Subject: message from wapo reporterI was interested in your Huffington Post blog item on Obama and Bill Ayers. The fact that Ayers gave a $200 donation to Obama plus fact that they were both members of the Woods Fund Board are matters of public record. But I have not seen any source for your statements that Ayers organized private fundraiser for Obama and that they arranged for donation to company with PLO ties. Could you provide sources for those statements, or give me a call?
Many thanks
Michael Dobbs
I returned the call and gave him the names and phone numbers of five people who could confirm the story. People with firsthand knowledge. Well, guess what? The lazy bastard declined to call any of the sources and wrote the following pablum:
But the Obama-Ayers link is a tenuous one. As Newsday pointed out Clinton has her own, also tenuous, Weatherman connection. Her husband commuted the sentences of a couple of convicted Weathermen Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Sue Evans, shortly before leaving office in January 2001. Which is worse: pardoning a convicted terrorist or accepting a campaign contribution from a former Weatherman who was never convicted?
Whatever his past, Ayers is now a respected member of the Chicago intelligentsia, and still a member of the Woods Fund Board. The president of the Woods Fund, Deborah Harrington said he had been selected for the board because of his solid academic credentials and “passion for social justice.”
Completely misleading bullshit. Obama was sitting on the board with Ayers just six years ago. Dobbs equates that with a contact Hillary never had (she gets blamed for something her husband did). Same thing, right? Obama and Ayers give money to the Arab American Action Network and Hillary does what? Dobbs is a hack. A lazy hack at that. I guarantee I will never return the bastard’s phone call again.
Let’s have the same standard for everyone–for McCain, Obama, and Clinton. Let’s get the truth out on the table now, while voters can still have a say in who their respective candidates will be. For the Democrats, it appears too late. They are drunk with the Obama cotton candy and do not realize that the sugar high will pass. We are close to the Obama zenith. The nadir to follow.
Larry, I always enjoy your articles, but it’s not too late for Hillary!!!! There’s a lot that can still happen between now and March 4th!!!
The only way for Hillary to win would be an Obama implosion. That’s possible before the convention, but not likely before March 4. She should just hit cruise control and enjoy herself for the rest of the campaign, so she can provide herself as the safe alternative, should anything happen.
Well, we’ll see what my state does March 4th. I’m voting for HRC.
Larry,
Jump into the foxhole with me while there is still time.
I don’t care if McCain had an affair. He never claimed to be a saint.
Also, Obama isn’t a communist because he knew Ayers.
Check the link. It has nothing to do with ayers. I’ll clarify.
Larry,
You got me to read an entire AIM article. Congrats.
What I said still stands only now it applies to Davis rather than Ayers.
Lastly, I’m far more worried about the old Troskyites who are attaching themselves to all of the politicans like leaches.
But you do understand my point that this is the kind of stuff that, if left untouched until august, will be used with enthusiastic viciousness against Obama and the Democrats?
Did Davis still consider himself a communist in the sixties? I don’t know. Be sure the 527 that makes the ad won’t worry about the answer to that question.
Bingo! Which is exactly why all this stuff should have been aired out by now and the truth sifted out. But of course, the real agenda of the MSM is to bury Hillary, let Obama win the dem nomination, then bury him after the convention.
Larry,
I understand that you support Hillary and are helping the GOP at the same time by digging into this old news.
I’ve said that I believe Americans won’t be swayed by these attacks. Nobody wants to live in the past. Not with Obama. Not with McCain either.
Did the neocon stinkers who support him now decide to get the NYT to break that story so that Limbaugh will feel sorry for poor John?
I think so.
Now, back to talking about the next war in KOSOVO!!
No one really knows WHAT Obama is because there’s been absolutely no scrutiny. This blog is the only resource that’s provided ANY in-depth coverage of Obama’s past. Oh, I forgot Oprah. How silly of me. You might expect the MSM to be ashamed of themselves, since the last time they were lax with research we were led into a devastating war. But it’s just a ratings game with them. None of the newscasters or journalists really care about America or have any integrity, because if they did, they’d do their job!! What an ass that Michael Dobbs is. But as of late, I’ve seen so many, they’re all starting to look alike.
Actually, Access Hollywood interviewed Hillary one day before New Hampshire, and many said that helped her win the state.
And two days ago Entertainment Tonight covered the Obama-Patrick plagiarism story. Interesting times.
That would make twice as many as the New York Slime has.
There was actually a time when the New York Times was the standard of great journalism. Now they are no better than the National Enquirer. They have the worst record of journalism of any major daily in the country and their own scandals to back it up.
The timing is interesting because it won’t stop McCain’s nomination now and it will be irrelevant for the general election.
You are right about the timing. Note, they NY Times has at least four sources identified by name in the story.
What also makes no sense is that they had the story, sat on it, and still endorsed him for the New York Primary.
Editorial boards that endorse are not necessarily the same folks who vet this story.
“one of the sources for the story.”
Who’s timing and who’s motive…mmm
At least we know right of the top, who is going to man the front office at 1600.
Actually, the National Enquirer sources their material pretty extensively and before publishing has a team of lawyers scrutinize every word, which is more than you can say about so-called “mainstream” publications that don’t even fact check anymore.
They need to get Tucker Carlson on Tape delay.
Luch was a sandwich and coffee, with BowTie Man saying “I was with McCain back then…I never saw her, unless she was in the back with a g-string”
referring to the other women Lobbiest.
My sane half’s jaw dropped with mine in unison and My sane half’s has a high threshold.
Has anyone else been saying out loud and
somewhat knee jerked “OHHH, no he did not say that”, I can’t recall this level of sexist remarks and for want of paying attention. This crap is getting a pass.
Oh Larry, Larry! ACCURACY IN MEDIA? Redbaiting? Why not go to the John Birch Society while you’re at it? Also, there’s a really great cartoon in the Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv of Obama painting the White House black that you might want to link to, just to make sure that you get the message accross that Obama is bbbbaaaaaaaadddddddddd. That’s the level that you’re sinking to. You keep saying that Obama’s lack of experience is a legitimate concern, which it is, but if that’s true why are you stooping to throwing such GARBAGE at him hoping that some of it will stick? You’re just undercutting your own argument–like the Jewish woman complaining to the Manager of a hotel in the Catskills: “The food here was poison, pure POISON! . . . And such small portions!”
Montag. You once again miss the point. First, it is true that Obama had the relationship with Davis. I won’t be doing the red baiting. The Republicans will be happy to do it and what is Obama going to say?
I didn’t know Davis?
I didn’t know Davis was a communist?
What is a communist?
Second, whether you like it or not, whether it is fair or not, shit like this is going to be piled on Obama until election day if he is the nominee. And it is not easy to run away from.
While AIM is a rightwing site, take their info with a grain of salt, but it is a fact nonetheless.
rightwing sites,left wing sites…all may contain information or facts. It is an eye opener when the facts refuse to fit the “shoe” and the Cinerellas’ sisters are made ill in try to wear it.
On the Marx influence, the Marxist sub-culture at Harvard has been present from at least 1970…
These stories have a lag time and sitting on them warps the “real time” aspect of the “news”. You think the NYT released it because it may have depreciated in value? It’s like a symphony orchestra warming up and soon the baton will be raised.
Requiem of Obama.
NQ
THIS IS CHOICE!
“You keep saying that Obama’s lack of experience is a legitimate concern, which it is”
WHICH IT IS!
You gotta love someone who comes to smear Larry Johnson and yet…completely agrees. Wow, how can we get you to do this more often?
Even better is how you went out and found a smear, then propogated it, encourage Larry J to muddy the waters with something he didn’t do..and then agree with him.
I love NQ. Some of you snits are hillarious.
Larry,
What about this theory regarding the McCain story: It’s being floated now [or pushed] by the Obama side for several reasons. One, to take attention away from Michelle’s stupid remarks and any flubs Barak may make tomorrow in the TX debate.
But second, after reading a story on MyDD about McCain and Hillary and their teams being pretty friendly and that they respect one another, the story goes on to say that McCain could actually help Hillary out in TX by taking a lot of the Independent voters [and probably a lot of moderate Republicans] away from Obama. Thus, the Obama team needs to tarnish him before TX to deter Indies from voting Republican.
The other possibility is that the RW nuts want to get Romney back in the game, but that doesn’t make a lot of sense to me because the NY Times wouldn’t go along with that. I think the timing here is everything.
What about this theory regarding the McCain story: It’s being floated now [or pushed] by the Obama side
Lady,
LOLOLOLOL!
Larry - thanks for the reference article to find a picture of the gal.
I understand McCain was a party guy before Vietnam. Dated Cindy while married to his first wife with kids.
At 60 - when he did it, more power to him to keep two woemne happy. Speaks to his resiliance as a leader
The Daily Howler has a story up today about a hit job Sam Roberts did in the Times going after Bill Clinton for supposedly plagiarizing:
http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh022008.shtml
The (false) story is here:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/20/pastor-gratified-by-bill-clintons-use-of-his-line/
Thanks Larry. You’re doing a bangup job on our behalf.
As to the McCain story, surely you will devote your time and your crack staff to covering this story much like the non-stop coverage to every rumor, bit of innuedo or BS that you discuss about Mr. Obama.
The real reason that I am posting:
I should note that I formerly loved your blog and am pretty damn disappointed that it is non-stop Obama hate. Yes, I am an Obama fan, but the real reason that I am disappointed is, that since last week, I’ve been waiting/hoping that you’d talk about this just a tad more: Imad Mughniyeh.
Just one post about Mugniyeh and dozens about Obama?
But why talk about that when there are Obama ties to terrorists, communists, strange syrians, Rezko, plagirism, rezko blah blah blah?
What happened to you?
Who put a gun to your head and forced you to click on this blog? If you don’t like it don’t read it.
I don’t write to make you happy. I write to vent my spleen. If you like it fine. If you don’t, you’re welcome to post your disagreement. But save your breath bitching about what I write. OK?
Larry — That was just so rightous! I’ve been waiting for you to say that to one of the fly-by detractors and occasional tourists for a while, as I’ve said it to myself everytime I read one of these “I used to like your blog, but now it sucks” type posts. Hey tourista, if you don’t like it, don’t read it. We still have a bit of freedom left in this country, and surely you can fid a blog to your liking. Or if you have the money and the stones, put up your own blog. Those fly-by comentators are like a rude guest in your house who walks in the door, crinkles up their nose and tells you that they don’t like your furniture or dinnerware. That takes some friggin nerve, and your response was fantastic.
Because Obama’s ties hurt our country, damaging our national security?
Because we’re speaking of an individual who wants to be President, and the Washington Post reporter isn’t doing his job?
Who would have thought the Washington Post would become more useless than Chris Matthews, no wonder newspapers have become obsolete.
I can’t automatically call you out for moral equivalency, but would you feel this way, if LJ was doing this only to a Republican? If we see scoops on Repubicans its ok, but scoop on Clinton or Obama, and AUTOMATICALLY its a Republican Talking Point, its a smear campain, etc….
This is what has really eliminated Obama as my candidate. He is fluff and stuff, he promises changes he can’t deliver, he regurgitates lines from his buddy as his own, and when called on it, his followers attack the messenger.
Funny how you like it when it aligns with your biases and views, and when it challenges them…rebel, say, “Obama Hating” to diminish your counterviews. This only shows you as an intolerate person of views that don’t lend support to your own.
I was wondering the same thing. Why Obama? You can favor Hillary but don’t tear down Obama to make her look better…stick to the facts.
what if the facts show Obama is a fake? Stick to the subject.
Why Obama?
Because when you run for president on lofty goals and smears…YOU get some fire back for that shit.
I’m gonna change it all.
Washington is corrupt and I’ll change it.
I’m gonna change the country.
I’m gonna change the dynamic.
When you set yourself up with all these promises and ideals….how could you expect anything but criticism?
Wouldn’t you trust a politician more who said:
“Look folks Washington is a cesspool of self interst overall. And its sad because even if you elect me, we’ll only really have marginal improvement because we have so many issues that it isn’t really feasible to change them all. We may have to simply tackle the most pressing ones, and see what we can do. But I’ll at least stand here and tell you the truth. Our political system is in shatters because of so many lies and cons over the centuries that we just really don’t have a grasp on how bad it is. Congress cannot even hold the Executive Branch in check because so many of its members are also genuinely corrupt. So the best we can hope for right now is to start dealing with the corruption, have a calmer more level headed President who will move us through these tough times until we re-establish both world credibility and some semblance of order in our nation. We really need to dig into what has corrupted our system and that will take time.”
Or something to that sobering assessment.
“You can favor Hillary but don’t tear down Obama to make her look better”
This simply projection on your part, or filtered interpretation. I think in some ways she’s got warts on her record and some character flaws in my opinion. I didn’t make her look better, the attacks on her that caused me to actually examine her record made her look better than before this process. THANK YOU.
I sat down and listed her accomplishment, (working on the sources to match), and got 4 page Document file by the end (without the sources added). I did the same thing for Obama…3/4 of 1 page.
I didn’t make Obama look bad at all…I examined his little record and some things look good, but not everything. Only one of his Community Organizer goals really ever happened, which was to get more focus on dropouts, but the rest of the initiatives failed. He’s a dreamer, and he’s not the only one.
How bout give me some FACTS about Obama, outside your characteristic of him being Hopeful, Idealistic, and such, and give me some accomplishments. Give me the Facts you so want us to stick to. I’m waiting.
There is a real break down in the power elite structure. Murdoch vs. GE, Realist/Internationalists vs. NeoCon/Idealists. Two mob families fighting it out. That’s never good for business. This is going to be great.
I will Larry…and please vent away. I’m not asking to refrain from criticizing Mr. Obama. But, considering your background, you were the first website that I went to (well, after Naharnet, Daily Star, Haaretz, YNet, Jpost) and I saw all-Obama all the time.
Forget my earlier criticism. I guess what I want is this:
Any more theories on who did it? What it means? How Hezbollah will respond?
I re-read your post on Mr. Mughniyeh’s demise and you should keep cheering. You’re not a “callous troglodyte or an antiquedated cold warrior.” I’m generally not a fan of targeted assassinations, but every rule needs exceptions.
I am fairly confident that Israel pulled it off. I commend them. I have spoken with folks from units of ours who could have done it. We would not have used a car bomb in an urban area. Too messy and unreliable.
I can’t explain the media. I haven’t been able to explain them for some time now. They’ve become nothing but a propaganda machine.
Last night I saw on my TV a ticker on the bottem of the screen that said “Al Qaeda wins Wisconson”. It was gone in the blink of an eye. Today on the internet I see that someone has posted some close captioning, “accidentally” ran, that says “we’ve just been told that Al Qaeda did indeed call Barack to congratulate him on winning.” A couple of days ago Chris Matthews ran bin Laden’s picture while talking about Obama.
I don’t believe in these kinds of media “accidents”. Is this like some sort of subliminal programming, just not too subliminal? Is it a way of warming us up, so we will accept the smears to come? Are we being primed?
I’m a conspiritress, so take this with a grain of salt. It’s simply opinion. But this whole Obama campaign just feels so staged.
Don’t watch it.
If they’re idiots, don’t waste your time.
Larry
It is rather remarkable; not that long ago we had live blogging from a Patrick Fitzgerald trial from the Kossacks, and now a Patrick Fitzgerald trial about to happen in a few weeks which does indeed involve the frontrunning candidate, and it’s a complete media blackout. From reporters chasing Fitzgerald everywhere in the rain, to……nothing. It is bizarre. With that trial coming it’s no wonder they want Hillary to concede. I want to win in November, I can’t think for a minute this isn’t all going to come before then.
GREAT observation. And I’m worried that the MSM that does cover the trial will miss the connections to Obama. We need bloggers in that trial to make sure it’s covered right.
So which is he, a secret muslim terror-mole, or a secret communist?
It’s difficult to keep up with all the spin…..
Why not both? We can keep both balls in the air at the same time. Besides, they’re not necessarily mutually exclusive.
Maybe Obama was a secret member of the PFLP. If he had a son, I’m sure he would have named him George Habash Obama.
Sadly, my jokes are failing. Habash was Greek Orthodx.
A half wit moron too stupid to understand how he’s being manipulated?
Get it?
No?
Not Presidential.
I have to admit, the entire media blackout seems rather eerie—like a bizarre mystery novel. Who is in cahoots with whom?? You would think there would be a lot of young reporters that would love to make a name for themselves, and crack open any dirt they can find about any candidate—including Obama. It feels like we’re in the Twilight Zone. And the timing about McCain’s affair really IS odd. Do the powers that be want him to be nominated just so he can lose?? If I were a powerful entity, and I wanted to control the world, the candidate that looks the easiest to manipulate is Obama.
They’re on the Internet, blogging, now.
Not everyone can see through the fog, who shows the best judgement, whose willing to go along for a dollar, for status, or who is too stupid to get it?
You have to figure it out for yourself.
In this day and age, ultimately, the only way to survive is by doing right, obeying the law, the country can’t survive when everyone feels entitled to what they want, a criminal racket of sorts, esp when it involves our politicans, and our “cultural elite.”
I would love to have a piece of cheesecake everyday, I can’t, or I’d get sick, it’s not healthy.
So I don’t, even though I REALLY want that cheesecake.
Same thing when offered a 10,000 dollar bribe, via a Rezko kickback, ultimately, is it healthy to say yes?
Only if you think no one can ever touch you?
That’s just not true.
If they crack dirt about Obama, it might hurt their career. It’s the same way the press looked the other way through out the Reagan administration, and the way no one ever talks about the record breaking level of corruption of the Reagan administration.
I’ll give you an example - towards the end of Reagan’s FIRST term, Lesley Stahl was invited to interview Reagan in the Oval Office. What she found was a non-lucid, incoherent, demented Reagan. He didn’t recognize her. He didn’t know where he was. he didn’t know what he was doing.
You would think this would be a story, right? Nope, she never mentioned it until she published her book. The second debate with Mondale, Reagan was also genuinely incoherent - to use Tony Coelho’s infamous words, “he did everything but drool.” This is the president of the most powerful country in the world at a pivotal time in history. it became the thing which cannot be talked about. it was barely brought up again. It should have been the number one topic of debate right and left. Nope.
When the news media decided in the late seventies/early eighties that fair coverage meant giving both sides and equal chance and that TRUTH has no intrinsic value - meaning, that a lying motherfucker is treated exactly as is someone who is respected for their genuine authority - journalism went totally to hell. It all became about the game.
Y’know, when Iran/Contra began breaking, Ben Bradlee refused to cover it because he “didn’t want another Watergate” on his hands. That pretty much tells you everything.
But if Clinton gets a blow job from an FBI-vetted intern - watch out! That’s grounds for non-stop coverage and impeachment.
But Walter Pincus from the Washington Post said readers in the 1980s wrote angry letters in droves when the paper would fact-check Reagan statements. So they had to stop the fact-check column, and instead run it as so-and-so said this about Reagan.
It was the readers that demanded the softer Reagan coverage. It sucks the paper caved to the demands of those letter-writers, but that side is usually louder than the side that wants facts.
We can at least rest assured that no readers will complain about fact-checking Obama (yeah, right.)
There was a documentary about Reagan on PBS a few years ago. There were interviews with many who were involved with his administration and several of them admitted that he had gotten so bad after the Iran-Contra mess that they actually considered having him removed from office. When Howard Baker was brought in as chief of staff, he supposedly snapped out of it, at least for a time.
The public has a right and a need to know these things. Too often the media picks and chooses what to tell us based on their personal preferences. Or fears. The part about the WP getting so many complaints about their coverage of Reagan speaks volumes. The right wing has been waging coordinated attacks like that for years and the media is really intimidated by them.
We should all email the NY Times ombudsman to complain about their waiting until McCain is the nominee to inform people about questionable things in his past. They will do the same with Obama. So much for the media’s role in ensuring that people are informed BEFORE they vote.
So much for the media’s role in ensuring that people are informed BEFORE they vote.
And how many stories has the media sat on for GW? PRIOIR TO AN ELECTION? Wiretapping? and that one for a year.
Some of which would have made an impact in 00 and 04.
You read it here first. The Republican Attack Machine is eating its own.
Now, I gather this will not appear on No Quarter again, because there has to be more to say about Obama.
And, by the time that you all are down with Senator Obama, Senator McCain will have absolutely nothing to worry about.
The Republican Attack Machine is eating its own.
OK, I’ll bite, it’s an RNC inside job?
Ever see those stackable Santas, one bigger than the next?
Maybe it’s like that…
I could care less who McCain slept with a long time ago. McCain and the woman are denying an affair. I doubt this will really hurt him. I have a feeling Obama has much bigger problems and scandals in store for him. His fall will be much greater. From messiah to slimy Chicago politician in less than a year. Wanna bet?
I don’t think sex is the issue. In fact, if McCain is banging a 40 year old it helps the 72 year old dude appear to be more studly. The issue is one of granting earmarks to special friends.
He puts a new spin on the term STAGflation.
Bet the talking heads on MSNBC spend so much time with the “sex” part of the story that they don’t worry much about the part that’s important i.e. the damning lobbyists buying another Senator part.
McCain may however have locked up the old goat with young woman fantasy vote. And lost the old bat who hates the old goat with young woman fantasy vote.
Read the NYTimes article, not the meme of sex.
Note the corporate flights with Paxson, 4 of them, while they have business before the Senate. He is being accused of not changing a bit since the Keeting 5 days.
If he is a walking fucking hypocrite by spending time sucking up to Corporate Interests.
Nobody will begrudge McCain his nasties. He is no longer young and sexy enough to arouse jollytime envy or push anybody’s homoerotic buttons.
Where are all of the No Quarter posters/commenters? Might you be busy trying to link Mr. Obama to Ms.Iseman?
I mean, surely there are some fifth-hand connections worthy of BREAKING!!!!!! post.
Wrong blog, you want orange.
And yes, this is how it’s played now, the bribe passes as a winning poker hand, or a “finder’s fee,”
channeled through a spider’s web,or a labyrinth of a money trail, in the hope the feds won’t be able to trace it. Patrick Fitzerald even acknowledges this new reality, and prosecutes his cases accordingly.
Remember Conrad Black?
Holinger?
Chicago?
Maybe someone should check Obama’s connections, there.
Funny, you never thought it odd Fitzgerald was investigating Obama, Rezko, Conrad Black and Scooter Libby, too?
Pretty stupid men, thinking laundered money can’t be traced.
I think the Obama campaign just high fived each other for a hit on McCain by the NYT.
Vee,
Please tell me you are being sarcastic. This story has been circulating since early December. The Times started reporting on the story in the weeks leading up to December. Surely Sen. Obama and his minions had nothing better to do than circulate rumors about McCain three months all the while knowing that they would beat Sen. Clinton and every other Republican would collpase.
What next?
OBAMA IS CAUSING GLOBAL WARMING!
OBAMA RESPONSIBLE FOR TSUNAMI!
Seriously….get a grip.
Edith,
Getting dumber and dumber…
Here is a legitimate question:
Regardless of tonight’s silly story, will the Obama haters of the crowd vote for Mr. Obama if he is the eventual nominee?
I will go first. If Hillary wins, I will vote for her.
Much like Larry, I am a convert from the Republican party. Unlike Larry, and others here, I came over from the dark side much earlier (in 1991), precisely because of Bill, causing me to not have made the completely ridiculous assumption that W. would have made a good President….ahem.
Anyway, I owe my democratic party ties to the clintons. I am by no means a Hillary hater. I will vote of her if she is the nominee, even though I favor Obama.
Can the other Democrats and independents here say that?
No, he’ll be more criminal, and more of a disaster, than Bush.
If he’s criminal now, will he be a Cheney in the White House, doing Daley Rezko Chicago corruption with federal monies, this time?
I vote for the best person running for the job. If the Democratic nominee is Barack Obama, odds of that person being the Democratic nominee are much lower.
Republican Attack Machine -
Yes - I will gladly vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton and I am delighted to hear that you will too.
No endorsement for Obama from me unless he earns my vote. He doesn’t get it by default..thats bullshit. If he hasn’t shown himself as substantive by November I’ll vote for a whole other party besides Dems and Repugs. This is what is flawed with the Obama supporters who think legitimate criticism and not being swayed by sweet words = Obama Hater.
When you mock like that…do you really think you are going to convert anyone? This technique is remarkably off-putting. Shame on you for smearing Obama every time you call people who have legitimate concerns as “Obama Haters”. I’m sure in his infinate loving light, he’s above your crap. But you are representing his flock so well.
Oh noes . . . . Obama knew someone who used to be a Communist. Call the John Birch Society. They’ll know what to do.
Uh oh . . . I just remembered. I still listen to them there Woody Guthrie albums and he was Communist, too. I better go investigate myself.
I’ll get back to you when I get it all figured out. Damn. I thought we’d grown up a little bit. Guess I wuz wrong.
wuz?
How 1969 of you, how cute !!!!!!!
See, you are creative!!!!!!
Why would HuffPo delete (within minutes) a post containing this info:
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/politics/view.bg?articleid=1072778
Is this not legit?
The question should be why was it deleted? Seems ligit, there are several diffeent references from different sites.
My guess is that they don’t want it out there that Deval - Obama’s buddy - has a gay aide.
Not very liberal of them is it?
I doubt it’s the gay part….
I don’t know anything about Deval Patrick except that he is Obama’s buddy and sounds gay, which I couldn’t care less about, but I wonder about Obama. Maybe his people don’t want it out.
What’s the story on Obama’s pal Deval Patrick and his recently charged aide?
I looked him up when the copycatting “scandal” arose. That led me to the story of his aide (see links). Seems like Mr. Patrick is not exactly a “new kind of politician”, like his good friend O is purporting to be.
Frostback -
But they share the same speeches - how can that be?! Don’t they mean what they say?!
I guess nobody would vote for “Pay to Play” and “Bribes Taken Here”.
Patrick and Obama…2 peas in a pod it seems.
And, I don’t normally subscribe to “guilty by association”, but O’s relationship with Rezko is no 6 degrees of separation.
And, that house deal?…I’d lay money that if the name Obama was substituted with Clinton, McCain or any other pol of the day, the cries of foul would be deafening.
Guilt by Association is simply a logical fallacy. But, tying significance between people isn’t automatically a “gba” flaw. You can demonstrate the judgement of people by who they associate with on a more regular or professional basis.
I don’t know what company you keep, but if I know someone in my group of friends, acquaintences, or clients, who is screwing someone over, or committing fraud, I make it very clear that they are to stay away from me, or I make it my business to avoid them.
McGee is married to John Finley IV.
I wonder what that the arrest will cost him.
(half way down the page)
http://www.bostoncriminallawyerblog.com/
oops
I thought that was the question I asked.
I’ve been a poster “in good standing” there since its inc