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Who Will They Choose?

So what if Obama is the Democratic nominee? For the first time in my memory, we’ll have a fascinating dynamic at play: Two Washington media darlings facing off against each other. Political journalism, like scriptwriting, relies on a compelling story with an arc and denouement (which journalists in some cases like to hasten). In order for a compelling narrative to unfold there has to be a winner and a loser, a hero and a villain. Consider recent election history narratives as presented by our fourth estate:

  • Carter v. Reagan: Carter = big loser in a sweater. Reagan = shiny happy winner
  • Reagan v. Mondale: Reagan = winner. Mondale = sleepy demeanored loser
  • Bush I v. Dukakis: No further elaboration needed
  • Bush I v. Clinton and Perot: Bush I = the guy who tanked the economy and lied about taxes. Clinton = slippery dissembling hounddog. Perot = populist lunatic. No candidate gets the majority.
  • Clinton v. Dole: Clinton: “Slick Willy” is a “scandal” plagued loser. Dole = experienced insider with a great sense of humor, even though he’s a cranky old bastard who sobbed at Nixon’s funeral.
  • Bush II v. Gore: Bush: down to earth winner you’d love to hoist a beer with. Gore = stiff, nerdy, earthtone wearing loser.
  • Bush II v. Kerry: Bush: a winner who can protect us from the terrists. Kerry: a Frenchified loser who lied about Vietnam.

Notice the pattern. Political journalism is by definition a zero sum game.

So since Obama (the Son) and McCain (Mr. Straight Talk) are both beloved by the press corps and have managed to make it this far with negligible vetting, what will happen now? I can imagine reporters getting whiplash as they try to decide which side they’re on. But make no mistake: One will be chosen as the Annointed One while the other will be punished and humiliated. Who will they choose?

Your thoughts welcome.

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Comment by CK | 2008-02-20 09:46:07

Third possibility, the deadtree media and the public airwaves media are less and less relevant. Fewer people every year get their information from newspapers, Time/Newsweek/NatRev and the TV talking heads.
The media script is becoming more and more akin to bad off-broadway plays. Open and close in a week and shrinking audiences.
Every Viagra ad is another nail in McCain’s coffin, especially if that ad runs immediately after a talking head does a love McCain talking point. Every bladder control ad, every Restless finger on the nuke button syndrome ad.
Wresting the script from the BosWash klan of useful idiots is one of the good things about this election year. It is already evident in the economic news, which news you cannot get from the usual suspects.
It has been evident in the treatment of Sibel Edmonds, all the information about that set of treasons is only available on the web.
The deadtree folks will fight for their relevance of course. Fight harder and harder as less and less of the citizenry gives them any serious attention.

Comment by AF | 2008-02-20 16:01:28

McCain could pick Christine Todd Whitman - that’s what they say over at the McCain blog. OK, that’s what the commenters are saying.

McCain-Whitman could be a competitive ticket. If Whitman were a person of color it could be even more competitive.

Comment by CK | 2008-02-20 17:22:07

There’s always Dr. C. Rice
or maybe that senator from Texas, K. B. Hutchinson?

 
 
 

Comment by Mr.Murder | 2008-02-20 10:02:53

Bush’s Africa appearances pattern future plans. Centralized command structure at state is a signal shot that we’re about to exert some presence on items there.

Hard containment policy.

Generals are pushing back. We can’t continue at this pace.

Bush said we’d have no permanent bases there. Believe the opposite of what he says, or take it at face value with the understanding that we are building ‘temporary bases’ there.

Comment by Fred C. Dobbs | 2008-02-20 11:21:42

>>> “…or take it at face value with the understanding that we are building ‘temporary bases’ there.”

Can you say, “Djibouti,” Sports Fans?

 
 

Comment by Sally | 2008-02-20 10:06:39

Who will they choose? They’ve already chosen Gramps McCain.

BO was only the favorite until they thought they’d brought that vile Senator Clinton down by building BO up nonstop. Now they’ll go after BO with vigor as we’re seeing Prissy Matthews did by asking about BO’s nonexistent legislative record in the Senate.

Rest assured McCain is now The One for the corporate media. It will be fun to watch BO being skewered with his own tactics. And don’t remind me of the Supreme Court. Any BO appointment to that august body will be in keeping with what the repugs want, as will everything else he proposes. Complete unity with the repugs will be his M.O.

Comment by kenoshaMarge | 2008-02-20 10:49:53

And they will be able to turn 180 degrees and begin to hammer Obama as they’ve done to Clinton 24/7 by introducing new information and things that have, surprise, surprise, just come to light. Totally ignoring, of course, that they were the ones that didn’t vet the candidate and didn’t find out the relevant information and that by this time there really shouldn’t be a whole lot of new information on a candidate they’ve been opining about nonstop for a year. If new information comes to light, it’s only because A. They didn’t bother to report on information others were reporting or B. They were too incompetent to find out that relevant information. Either way, and my vote is for A & B, Obama will be their new target and Heroic, Maverick, Straight-talking McCain their new and once again darling.

 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-02-20 10:25:15

Is this a trick question?

McCain, of course! The corporate media’s mission is almost accomplished. Stop Hillary! Stop the Clintons!
Then they’ll play the part of the conflicted press corp who is tearing their toupes out as they are FORCED to report the news on Obama. And what a tragic end to what would have been the story of the 21st century. The lines write themselves. There will be tears and bullshit rhetoric worthy of any Oprah show or Barbara Walters special

UGH!!!!

I’m going to get a LOT OF OF EXERCISE AND READING done between now and Nov.

 

Comment by Paul | 2008-02-20 10:36:24

I think they will choose Senator Obama.

I am a student from China. Several of my friends are watching the election with amazement. It’s our conclusion that Chinese people are lucky because we don’t have to go through this every 4 years. What we miss out in presidential election, we have other reality shows like Super Girl…and people are just as enthusiastic.

With the participation of media, internet, it’s more and more like the best reality show ever. People are not selecting a leader, they are selecting the best personality. McCain is cranky, Clinton is cold and calculating. Hence Mr. Obama - he is new, he is fresh, and he is the one.

Comment by grannyhelen | 2008-02-20 11:31:29

Ah, but if they turn it around so McCain is the clear-eyed realist and Obama is the starry-eyed, naive idealist then we can talk about “who’s best to lead our nation in these troubled times”.

They’re already fixing this narrative. The formerly-friendly right-leaning pundits who LOVED Obama are now talking about talking about “kool-aid drinkers” and voicing “maybe he should have some more scrutiny”.

It’s pretty obvious how they’ll try to play this one out.

Comment by Salo | 2008-02-20 13:10:10

idealistic neophyte v maverick war hero.

 
 
 

Comment by barbh | 2008-02-20 11:08:05

McCain of course will be the annointed one. They were pumping up Obama because they know what a field day they are going to have with the Rezko trial cranking up. Fresh red meat and it’s going to be shredded quickly once he has it in the bag. The FBI mole will be testifying about how many times Obama and Rezko, met ad nauseum. Michelle Obama can be depended on to insert her foot in her mouth and chew hardily at least once a week. Obama copying everyone’s speeches, including GWBs. (Do some googling and come up with the hit parade of hopeful, uniting words straight from the elephants mouth.) Obama going back on the campaign finance pledge, etc.

I have no doubt that an election that I thought would be an easy, no brainer win for the dems is going to be anything but. I now have serious doubts that the dems will win the GE.

I had dinner with a friend who is pro Hillary, her husband for the first time ever was going to vote for a democrat for President, Hillary. She said if Obama won they probably wouldn’t vote at all. I understand her feelings all too well, but pointed out the supreme court and will have to point out to her the other smaller fish races that are also important, but it’s going to be a hard sell for her and probably impossible to convince him.

What I truly don’t get is that all these people that were such virulent anti-republican are now going for a candidate that wants to hold hands and unite with those that have damaged our country so badly in the last eight years. They want to compromise! Why they even think it’s possible to have a moment in the sun with them, when they have compromised on almost nothing in the last eight years… I suppose it’s the instant gratification of the feel good message of hope and change.

 

Comment by S. Markom | 2008-02-20 11:09:55

This will be like no other election. the closest resemblance would actually be 1968, but there is still too much of a difference.

Obama will need to add significant substance to his empty rhetoric and fast. He will have to play on his relative youth and hope that between now and within election day the economy continues to decline. If he can use a bad economy to support his “chicken in every pot” policies he will be the “savior” and national security will not be as dominant. Obama has already started to show the other side of his family who actually brought him up which will balance anyone who has a concern about race.

McCain will need to expose Obama as an empty suit with no ability to run a country. He will try to take Obama’s policy proposals and show how aggressively everyone’s taxes will go up. He is also showing that he has effectively worked across-the-aisle with Democrats where Obama has voted down the line with his own party. If the economy bottoms out or there is another terror incident then McCain will have Obama for lunch in that area.

Unless the media go out of their way, this will not be an election filled with dirty tricks and swiftboating.

Comment by fribbles | 2008-02-20 12:18:19

I sincerely hope you’re right, S. Markom, but I’ve been voting since 1980 and I’ve yet to see an election that isn’t filled with dirty tricks and swiftboating. In fact, the Internets (with a YouTube kicker) have made doing so much easier.

Comment by S. Markom | 2008-02-20 12:23:59

I also hope I am right:)

I was just referring to the McCain and Obama camps. You and I know that there will be outside groups attacking both candidates on “small” issues in an effort to discredit their character.

I just think this election is a referendum against that kind of campaigning which is why Romney lost and why Hillary is losing.

 
 

Comment by Blue State Girl | 2008-02-20 12:23:08

Unless the media go out of their way, this will not be an election filled with dirty tricks and swiftboating.

Wishful thinking. The GOP is already making plans to take Obama down. Fasten your seatbelt and enjoy the ride.

Comment by S. Markom | 2008-02-20 12:28:15

Don’t be naive. Those attacks will come from both sides, but it will come from outside groups.

I just think that if the election is between Obama and McCain I will not be surprised if both candidates aggressively oppose those kind of stunts.

I just think that this election is in many ways a referendum on the dirty tricks and no-substance campaigns we have had for too many years. (I hope).

 
 

Comment by BernieO | 2008-02-20 14:18:06

Swiftboating and similar tactics are not done by the media, they are done by well funded right wing operatives. The media enables them by talking endlessly about the charges and giving the accusers a platform. I cannot imagine why this would change now. The talking heads are still repeating Drudge garbage, after all.

Comment by S. Markom | 2008-02-20 14:40:16

I partially disagree. There are well funded 527 groups who are free to buy advertising and more importantly use their PR firms to plant stories about the advertising with the media. The PR does have more impact than the actual commercials which rarely run.

 
 
 

Comment by fribbles | 2008-02-20 11:26:29

I said this in another thread. Now that it’s nearly Mission Accomplished on the Clintons, Obama will become a terrorist-loving crook from Chicago (which will scare the beer ‘n nuts white demographic) and a legislative lightweight (which will scare the intelligentsia).

Blowout isn’t even the word for what’s about to happen. Once Obama starts to crash and burn, look for lefty blogs like kos to start abandoning him (get ready for plenty of diaries with the topic “What We Didn’t Know about Obama in the Primaries”).

I’d enjoy the schadenfreude except the country will be irreparably ruined.

 

Comment by rjj | 2008-02-20 11:31:45

Paul nailed it.

It is American Idol.

 

Comment by Ga6thDem | 2008-02-20 11:35:18

They will choose McCain of course. Why wouldn’t they? They’ve loved him before and they’ll love him again. Besides, if you notice, McCain is already winning the media narrative using the Obama’s careless rhetoric against him.

 

Comment by votermom | 2008-02-20 11:42:38

But at least lip-syncing isn’t allowed on American Idol, and Simon Cowell would be an awesome political talking head. Can’t you just hear him critiquing Obama & Mccain.
“That’s too karaoke for me.”
“That’s so old and tired. Where’s the relevance?”

 

Comment by G Hazeltine | 2008-02-20 12:07:08

From Glenn Greenwald:

A week of petty though typical attacks on Obama produced nothing
The most interesting and potentially most significant aspect of Obama’s convincing win last night is that it came after a week in which — really for the first time — he was targeted from all political and media corners with a relentless stream of the strain of petty though toxic trash which has dominated our political discourse and elections for decades now. And it didn’t really seem to have any impact at all.
Over the last week, we learned that: (a) Obama is a closet socialist as evidenced by the Che Guevara picture a volunteer posted on a campaign office wall; (b) Obama’s wife, Michelle, is both self-absorbed and subversive, as she secretely hates the U.S. and will only believe it’s a good country if her husband becomes President; (c) Obama is a thief and a plagiarist; and,
(d) in one of the most repulsive screeds in memory, courtesy of National Review’s Lisa Schiffren, former Dan Quayle aide, the fact that Obama’s parents are a mixed-race couple strongly suggests they were probably Communists, because who else, besides Communists, would marry outside of their own race? She cited an equally repellent article by AIM’s Cliff Kinkaid, entitled Obama’s Communist Mentor, which “reveals” that “through Frank Marshall Davis, Obama had an admitted relationship with someone who was publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA.”
Most importantly of all, the guardians of our political discourse — the Chris Matthews and Howie Kurtzs and Mark Halperins and The Politicos, all of whom dwell in Matt Drudge’s kingdom — traffic almost exclusively in puerile, vapid fixations with these types of petty conflicts and substance-free controversies. They’re the decadent ringleaders of the freak show which dominates our political discourse and dictates the outcome of our elections.
Just this morning alone, Howie Kurtz’s entire column is filled with quoting the likes of The Weekly Standard, Captain Ed, Kathryn Jean Lopez and David Brooks in order mindlessly to re-circulate every slimy, small-minded attack from this week on Obama. None of them is going to change in the slightest, because slothful, empty, small-minded chatter, driven by their Matt Drudge overlords, is all they are told to do, all they’re capable of doing, and all they want to do. No matter who the nominees are, the behavior of our media stars won’t change, because it can’t.
Nor, contrary to what appears to be the unduly optimistic belief of some Obama supporters, will the sleazy right-wing noise machine change its tactics in the slightest. Immediately before I read Lisa Schrieffen’s “half black/half Jewish, red diaper baby” rant, I watched Mike Gallagher on Fox News explain, to a sympathetic host, that Sharon Stone ought to be “charged with treason” for pointing out that insufficient attention is paid to the death of Iraqi civilians.
It’s vitally important to remember that our political life is suffuse with lowlifes and hatemongers like this. Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter — the heart and soul of the right-wing — aren’t going anywhere, nor are the media-connected, Swiftboat-spewing operatives who function in the shadows and the sewers. As Digby pointed out yesterday, the Right has already created a new, extremely well-funded organization — overseen by the incomparably slimy and truth-free Ari Fleisher — preparing to unleash exactly this sort of bile. As Digby said, the Democratic primary is exceedingly polite when compared to what is coming: “Just wait until you see what Ari Fleischer and his quarter of a billion have in store for us.”
So the question isn’t whether Obama will be relentlessly pelted by the sprawling appendages of the Right-wing edifice and its media allies with the most grotesque, bottom-feeding, substance-free, personality-based attacks. Of course he will be — ones as ugly as, if not uglier than, anything we’ve seen yet.
Up until now, Obama has received relatively sympathetic treatment from the two-headed right-wing/media monster because he’s been the anti-Hillary, and hatred for her resulted in affection (or at least restraint) towards him. Once he’s no longer the anti-Hillary, but instead becomes the only thing standing between John McCain/GOP power and the White House, he’s going to be the target of all of that bile and much, much more. As the Right begins to believe that he very well might be the enemy this Fall, and they thus pressure the media to begin its attacks, this week one got a small glimpse — a tiny fraction — of what is to come. So the question can’t be whether the Right and the media will behave differently. They can’t and won’t.
The real question is whether Obama, as he did this week, will be able to render these attacks impotent, even cause them to backfire, because they and their propagators will appear to be so ugly and small and irrelevant in light of the type of candidate he is, the rhetoric he produces, the vision to which he aspires. I have no idea whether Obama’s transcendent charisma or the historically demonstrated efficacy of low-life right-wing attacks will be more potent — I think it’s a much more difficult challenge than many Obama supporters (by virtue of understandable desire, rather than objective assessment) have convinced themselves it will be — but there probably aren’t very many priorities more important than cleansing our political process of this type of dirt and petty distraction.
What our political establishment relies on more than anything else is keeping Americans distracted away from what they are really doing and focused instead on how Mike Dukakis looks in a helmet and whether he’d want to murder his wife’s rapist; on blue dresses and penile spots; on the inspiration for Love Story and who invented the Internet; on how John Kerry looks in windsurfing tights, on how manly George Bush’s brush-clearing is, and whether Nancy Pelosi’s scarf-wearing means she loves the Terrorists. That’s how our Beltway culture remains indescribably broken and corrupt without much protest or backlash.
Rendering irrelevant these sorts of stupid, malicious, small-minded distractions could produce real substantive value. And that is what Michelle Obama herself meant as the campaign clarified her “proud” comment:
Anyone who heard her remarks. . . would understand that she was commenting on our politics — not on America itself.
Understood that way, who could argue with that? If you look at our national elections over the past three decades — the petty sideshows that dominate them, the ways they are almost entirely bereft of substance, the control which dirt-mongers and vapid media stars exert over them — what is there to be “proud” of?
After all, two of the most establishment journalists, Mark Halperin and John Harris, themselves confessed that our media covers our elections as a “Freak Show” and, worse, a low-life, right-wing dirtmonger like Matt Drudge is the most influential individual in setting their agenda and ruling their world. There are obviously hordes of people, regardless of ideology, yearning for an end to the Limbaugh/Drudge/ Chris-Matthews/Karl-Rove/Time Magazine petty, vapid dirt-mongering that infects and shapes our politics. Whether that can be achieved remains to be seen — there are a lot of extremely formidable obstacles in the way — but it’s hard to argue with those who see that as a critical priority.
– Glenn Greenwald

Comment by jenn | 2008-02-20 12:31:45

I generally like Glenn Greenwald’s stuff. But that……makes me puke: ” the type of candidate he is, the rhetoric he produces, the vision to which he aspires. I have no idea whether Obama’s transcendent charisma ” Nice that he chooses to take the campaign’s line on Michelle Obama’s gaffe: “Anyone who heard her remarks. . . would understand that she was commenting on our politics — not on America itself.”

Another web site off my favorites. Shame too, because he really has written some good stuff on FISA, etc. But this is just awful.

 
 

Comment by CK | 2008-02-20 12:30:19

According to the latest public opinion polls, Bush who is a republican is at 19%. McCain who is a republican is tied to Bush. Let’s keep McCain/Bush as the operative model. Electing John Keating5 McCain is just another couple of years of George and Dick. A vote for McCain is a vote for four more years of Bush only older and sicker.
Some more McCain singing would be good. A loop of Bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran maybe with a rerun of the old Johnson ad used so well against Barry G. Sweet little diversity proper, girl picking pedals off a daisy, then WHOOMP there it is, the old nuke cloud. In your head you know he’s insane so vote vote vote for McCain.
People get ready
There’s a bomber coming
Don’t need no reason
so just get on board
Elect us a killer
a bully a toad
Vote for McCain
He can’t carry the load.

( someone with a degree in the creative arts can do better lyrics maybe )
19% folks that is the enemy. 19% McCain.

 

Comment by CK | 2008-02-20 12:31:41

Oh damn I forgot to mention that McCain and the repubs are 19% even thouh the deadtree media and TheLobby loves them some killer Bush and BomberMcCain. That all powerful deadtree media, wanker Chris and the talking heads. And the best that old load can do is 19%. Sheesh.

 

Comment by vee | 2008-02-20 12:53:49

I have been a Democrat all my life. I will vote for McCain if Obama is the Democratic nominee for president. McCain is flawed, but I will take his character any day over Obama, who is always saying one thing, but doing another. I have no remorse over my decision.

Comment by rjj | 2008-02-20 13:10:08

If Obama is nominated, I will write in HRC, I think.

Comment by rjj | 2008-02-20 13:11:54

assuming that can be done in a general election.

Comment by alexei | 2008-02-20 15:43:47

It can be done. And I will do it as well.

 
 
 

Comment by CK | 2008-02-20 13:34:48

Not that I think it will make a difference, but listen to the McCain tapes here before you get all misty eyed about his heroness.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

or maybe just examine his character here
http://www.groupnewsblog.net/2008/02/what-price-quest.html

And then of course vote your conscience.

Comment by S. Markom | 2008-02-20 14:36:56

The very first person who will come to the defense of John McCain will be 99% of his fellow prisoners minus the one psycho you mentioned.

Second will be John Kerry who saw McCain come to his defense when he was swiftboated.

Finally Barack Obama will also come to his defense and lambast the people making these pathetic remarks.

If you cannot accept an American war hero over your petty little partisan issues then I would definately question your patriotism or your sanity.

You want to go after his issues - fine. But I do not question McCain’s war record.

Outrageous.

Comment by CK | 2008-02-20 16:10:09

The Navy won’t be coming to his defense. They dumped his ass sideways out of any command or flag track immediately after they finished debriefing him on his return from VietNam.
The military doesn’t show a lot of love to collaborators no matter who their esteemed father might have been.
Not many of the ex POW’s will be coming to his aid after the way he slammed them during the POw MIA hearing he chaired.
Kerry might come to McCain’s aid the same way McCain came to his. “Can’t we all just get along?” He will call for politeness in the campaigning. McCain never disavowed the swiftboaters, he just did some feel goody word slinging.
Obama will do as he see fit. If the rethugs keep talking about lynching is wife, he might be in no big hurry to prevent any truths about McCain’s “heroism from surfacing.”
I can accept a war hero, I don’t accept that McCain is one. 5 years in solitary does not make one a hero, it can drive one insane.
You are of course allowed to question anything you want, I am not the one running for president nor am I presenting myself as a hero faux or otherwise.
McCain has a silver star, that is an impressive piece of fruitsalad. To give it, the military requires two independent witnesses to the acts for which the commendation is awarded. There are no witnesses nor any witness testimony in his silver star file. In other words his silver star is an affront to those who earned it. A fraud.
Then there is that Forrestal incident. Some folks have written that it was McCain’s plane that was hit by the errant rocket. Other reports aver that it was from McCain’s plane that the errant rocket was fired. Either way McCain was off the Forrestal within days of the event. His father saw to it that the whole survery and military commission covering the forrestal incident was sealed for years. So was someone shooting at McCain, was McCain shooting at someone, or was it just a mechanical failure. A once in a lifetime failure like so many others in his “illustrious” and “heroic” career?
Remember this is a pilot who lost 5 planes before he ever entered a war zone. Ask your flyer friends how many planes they can lose before they are moved to someplace with soft plastic utensils.

Comment by Fred C. Dobbs | 2008-02-20 21:42:40

>>> Remember this is a pilot who lost 5 planes before he ever entered a war zone.

Called a friend who has an Army DFC circa 1969. He says the proper term is, “Black Ace.”

Your mileage may vary…

 
 
 
 

Comment by BernieO | 2008-02-20 14:22:06

What about the Supreme Court? I think McCain will have to keep his promise to appoint judges like Scalia et al both to the Federal and Supreme Court. That will not be a temporary effect.

Comment by S. Markom | 2008-02-20 14:28:58

But will a Scalia type appointment get approved? And won’t McCain have a convenient excuse not to appoint a Scalia type judge.

Comment by CK | 2008-02-20 17:28:05

If the dems win all the republican senate seats up this year, Senator Reid will still find a way to allow another Roberts, Alioto, Scalia, Thomas to be approved. If Reid is replaced as majority leader maybe a thug judge would have a harder time.

 
 
 
 

Comment by rjj | 2008-02-20 12:58:23

Does Greenwald conflate the petty bullshit of CorpsMedia with that coming from blogworld?

Did the media pick up on the Che poster business?

There are obviously hordes of people, regardless of ideology, yearning for an end to the Limbaugh/Drudge/ Chris-Matthews/Karl-Rove/Time Magazine petty, vapid dirt-mongering that infects and shapes our politics. Whether that can be achieved remains to be seen — there are a lot of extremely formidable obstacles in the way — but it’s hard to argue with those who see that as a critical priority.

And these same hordes expect a miracle cure, so they turn to political quacks and snake oil peddlers.

Comment by Salo | 2008-02-20 13:17:30

there yearners are of course the party faithful on either side. the sliver of swing voters however, tend to be swayed BY pettiness.

Comment by rjj | 2008-02-20 13:35:35

I know I am. One of the attractive things about HRC is that she is rabidly opposed by most of the odious [people in US public life].

 
 

Comment by kenoshaMarge | 2008-02-21 10:05:43

And it does not take into consideration that many of the things mentioned are only discussed at great length online. Local news casts seldom mention them and many voters aren’t aware of them. Not everybody is a political junkie the way that we are. In fact most are not!

When I mention some of these things to acquaintances I am met with blank stares. (”What the hell is she talking about now?” seems to be the most prevalent reaction.)

 
 

Comment by John Witherspoon | 2008-02-20 14:21:24

clinton beat dole, stupid! You guys suck so bad at bashing obama, you had to bring in a ringer, eh?

Comment by BernieO | 2008-02-20 14:29:22

Yes, and that is a BIG reason that the media hates Clinton - he is the one guy they were not able to destroy. That is why they attacked him so strongly after he was elected.

I am sick and tired of the media choosing who they think our president should be then selling it to the public. I had hoped that people are beginning to wake up after the last eight years but it sure looks like people are getting taken in once again.

As for whom the media will support in the GE, my money is on McCain since he is the more macho, which they love (given their own wussiness). However, it is possible that these guys will see Obama as hip and cool. If so, he will be their guy. It really is all about them and their insecurities.

 

Comment by dcmediagirl | 2008-02-20 15:47:27

The posting refers to the way the media portrayed these candidates, not who actually won and lost the race.

Comment by John Witherspoon | 2008-02-20 17:11:20

well you are wrong on the first clinton race as well, clinton was the young fresh faced fighter. He didn’t become the hounddog till later.

Comment by dcmediagirl | 2008-02-21 10:18:10

That is absolutely incorrect. Gennifer Flowers held her press conference in January 1992, which was at the very beginning of the primary season. In addition to that, reports had been circulating for years about Clinton’s extracurricular activies, so much so that many political insiders in Washington, including the press, thought Clinton’s campaign would be dead in the water from the moment he announced. So that story line - Clinton is so vulnerable on the women issue he’ll never make it - was the conventional wisdom before a single vote had been cast in a caucus or primary.

Comment by chris | 2008-02-21 10:24:14

dcmediagirl,
your attention to detail will elude those who care less for details than memes and faux memories.
You don’t need me to confirm your account, but yes, thank you for posting the accurate history and time reference.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-02-20 16:13:50

John Kerry looks in windsurfing tights…

Commercial ad:
Two people do a walk thru of a house looking similar to the Obama’s….The announcer says…”Would you vote for a candidate that does “boneheaded” deals with this man?” Rezko’s mugshot…is on the screen…

ReThug 527 / media pukes don’t have to directly assinate Obama just the company he keeps.

Comment by John Witherspoon | 2008-02-20 17:12:49

If the rezko story had any legs, the media would be all over it. You guys need to let it go. Yer sounding a lot like the “vince foster was murdered” people.

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-02-20 19:02:12

I was not taking a position on Rezko / Obama

But dollars to Chicago donuts you will see an ad similar to this.

On Rezko- Obama I will watch the Locusts desend on that.

In Plato’s Phaedrus, Socrates says that locusts were once human

 

Comment by kenoshaMarge | 2008-02-21 10:10:18

The media would be all over this? What alternate universe do you reside in? The media covers stories they deem important. You know like the Clinton marriage and whether or not Britney is wearing underwear.

And judging by the way the NYT sat on a story about McCain getting cozy (no sexual contact implied) until they thought someone was going to beat them to the punch we can all see quite well how interested media is in actually acting like journalists.

 
 

Comment by Mike Howell | 2008-02-21 03:15:11

TWK -

They prefer to be called neighbors. Which makes me think of another possible ad. Have you seen the movie “Neighbors”?

Although you would need two houses for that and Rezko’s wife for some reason only needed and empty lot.

 
 

Comment by myiq2xu | 2008-02-20 18:37:32

Does anyone besides the most deluded Obamaniacs believe that the fawning press coverage of Obama will continue once he has the nomination?

The only real question is how much damage the GOP Slime Machine will inflict on him.

If they can’t defeat him, they want to wound him so that his administration will be ineffective, just like they did to Bill Clinton in his first 4 years.

 

Comment by Joey (bjobotts) | 2008-02-20 20:21:35

I will never have to worry about McBush being president. After the horrors of Bush and with McBush being 4 more years of much more of the same…the voters will see to it that this republican disaster ends now no matter who the dem nominees is. We are not electing Kings and Queens here but reps. FDR didn’t run on the New Deal but got in front of the parade that demanded relief. If Obama is the nominee then set about to change what you don’t like about him or his policies. The important thing is to get a dem majority in House and Senate and start turning the judiciary out of the conservative neocons that the repubs have spent the last 14 yrs putting in place. We have an eleitist class trying to run the entire show with their wealth. This ‘money party’ has two faces and right now we have a chance to dominate one face.
btw…Glenn Greenwald’s article wasn’t to support Obama but to point out that the vapid media stars are being ignored by the people…finally. We are seeing them for what they are because they will not change but we will no longer buy into their collective spin.

Larry Johnson should certainly know about operation “Mockingbird” started by the CIA in the late ’40s early ’50s to control our 4th estate. They have bragged about it’s success recently. The same tactics are being used to control and influence congress. The Iraq fiasco has shown us how well the press can be used to lie and spread propaganda…we are not being affected to that extent now. The same insiders who buy into that shit now always will. That is why there is such a desperate attempt to control the net…too easy to fact check and get info world wide lessening the MSM’s control. Google operation mockingbird if you don’t already know about it. They can try to sell us McCain…but after Bush I doubt anyone is buying.

The only way the republicans can gain the WH this election is if they steal it…and because of the overwhelming number of voters polling for dems right now…we would know if they try to steal it. McCain survived Nam…good on him…we have done everything to honor him…but we sure as hell don’t ‘owe’ anyone the presidency…especially one who is carrying around all that suppressed rage and anger who hasn’t had an original thought in his head since he manipulated his way into politics through his wife’s money.

 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-02-20 20:29:06

control the net…too easy to fact check and get info world wide lessening the MSM’s control.

They are in the listing state in the US. Just wait until Yahoo turns over relevant info to the US..oops
Done already.
This thing about tiered levels of service on the net is to segregate the traffic by class….

 

Comment by SBfarm | 2008-02-21 10:39:55

Great post dcmediagirl! Discovered it through Just Wondering’s blog at http://vimandvinegar.blogspot.com/ which is a great read.

 

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