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The racists are coming. The racists are coming.

From Fact Check: 3AM Ad Included African-American Child, 3/11/2008 1:35:20 PM — In an op-ed in the New York Times, Orlando Patterson says the following about the campaign’s recent ad:

The ad could easily have removed its racist sub-message by including images of a black child, mother or father.

The ad did include a photo of an African American child. Here’s the image in the ad:

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Today’s op-ed piece in the New York Times by Orlando Patterson is a perfect example of the hysteria plaguing our country. According to Mr. Patterson in his opinion piece The Red Phone in Black and White (NY Times) there is a subtle message hidden within Hillary’s 3 a.m. ad. On the surface of it I find Mr. Patterson’s claims absurd. It is as if he is looking for racism in everything he sees. And in this case that is blatantly obvious. But what is even more odious is that Patterson has decided to condemn an ad that apparently worked in Texas by claiming it has racist overtones.

Let’s examine the facts shall we?

ON first watching Hillary Clinton’s recent “It’s 3 a.m.” advertisement, I was left with an uneasy feeling that something was not quite right — something that went beyond my disappointment that she had decided to go negative. Repeated watching of the ad on YouTube increased my unease. I realized that I had only too often in my study of America’s racial history seen images much like these, and the sentiments to which they allude.

You notice that he watched it over and over again. But then suddenly the clouds lifted and a light from on high beamed down to enlighten him and behold, he knew with certainty that Hillary was a racist and this ad proves it. Yes, a fully clothed white woman looking at her white children asleep in bed is a sure sign of racism. It comes from the Jim Crow play book I suppose.

But it isn’t just the imagery that bothers Mr. Patterson. He is concerned that the ad states that a woman with more foreign policy experience would be better equipped to handle an emergency call at 3 a.m. Imagine the audacity of the Clinton campaign daring to state that the hands on wife of a former President might know a thing or two about responding to emergencies; that a highly respected Senator from New York might know a little more about dealing with emergencies than someone that didn’t stand on the rubble of 9/11 attempting to help any and all she could. No, it is some nefarious plot to suggest that Hillary Clinton is more qualified than Barack Obama. In fact it is a nefarious racist plot.

Not so this Clinton ad. To be sure, it states that something is “happening in the world” — although it never says what this is — and that Mrs. Clinton is better able to handle such danger because of her experience with foreign leaders. But every ad-maker, like every social linguist, knows that words are often the least important aspect of a message and are easily muted by powerful images.

Powerful images. Like sleeping children, an onlooking mother and a hard working woman answering the phone to deal with a national emergency.  Scary. Hell, I just grabbed my blankie. Oh…. but they are all white. I’m freakin man!

Remember when the Obama campaign went after Edwards with the claims that he was racist for stating that he was the most electable Democrat? We should have paid more attention to them way back then. Because they succeeded in getting John out of the race. And that despite the vast majority of the polls that backed up Edwards’ claims. But apparently facts don’t matter because John is white and well, you know, those whites are out to bamboozle us again.

Those white devils, they are all racists.

I have spent my life studying the pictures and symbols of racism and slavery, and when I saw the Clinton ad’s central image — innocent sleeping children and a mother in the middle of the night at risk of mortal danger — it brought to my mind scenes from the past. I couldn’t help but think of D. W. Griffith’s “Birth of a Nation,” the racist movie epic that helped revive the Ku Klux Klan, with its portrayal of black men lurking in the bushes around white society. The danger implicit in the phone ad — as I see it — is that the person answering the phone might be a black man, someone who could not be trusted to protect us from this threat.

This is where this gets very interesting. You see, Mr. Patterson has somehow juxtaposed “innocent sleeping children and a mother in the middle of the night at risk of mortal danger” with a racist movie that sought to revive the KKK.

Heard enough. Are you as outraged as I am? Stay tuned because this so-called “expert” has a lot more expertin to do.

Let’s go over that last line one more time.

The danger implicit in the phone ad — as I see it — is that the person answering the phone might be a black man, someone who could not be trusted to protect us from this threat.

As he sees it, the danger implied in this ad is that a black man might answer the phone and that would be a threat to our security. Oh, I see now. This is clearly an attempt to point out that Barack Obama is a black man. That is what this whole ad is about. That’s why the children and the mother are white in the ad. And so is that evil racist engendering woman at the end. Yep, it was secretly produced by David Duke, that bud of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Obama is so keen on sitting down and chatting with. Oops!

And then he lays it all out for us:

The ad could easily have removed its racist sub-message by including images of a black child, mother or father — or by stating that the danger was external terrorism. Instead, the child on whom the camera first focuses is blond. Two other sleeping children, presumably in another bed, are not blond, but they are dimly lighted, leaving them ambiguous. Still it is obvious that they are not black — both, in fact, seem vaguely Latino.

Yes, Hillary should have demanded that the children in the ad were black. How dare she show a blond haired girl. And if that isn’t bad enough the other children are “vaguely Latino.” Don’t know about the rest of you but that last sentence seems like a racist message to me. Or is that a racist sub-message? Vaguely Latino! How in the hell can someone be vaguely Latino? But the guy is a Harvard grad so what do any of the rest of us know?

Finally, Hillary Clinton appears, wearing a business suit at 3 a.m., answering the phone. The message: our loved ones are in grave danger and only Mrs. Clinton can save them. An Obama presidency would be dangerous — and not just because of his lack of experience. In my reading, the ad, in the insidious language of symbolism, says that Mr. Obama is himself the danger, the outsider within.

Oh… I see. Hillary wears pantsuits because she is white and to show that Obama would be a danger to our country because he doesn’t wear pantsuits and is black. Funny what you can buy a Harvard degree for on ebay these days.

Now to the meat of all of this. Did the evil plot work? Are the Grand Wizard Zombies rising from their graves?

Did the message get through? Well, consider this: people who voted early went overwhelmingly for Mr. Obama; those who made up their minds during the three days after the ad was broadcast voted heavily for Mrs. Clinton.

Yes, it worked. The secret plan to divide the country by race worked on people that made their minds up 3 days after the ad was aired. White Power is alive and well and living in the campaign of Massa Hillary. What absolute bunk!

Richard Nixon’s Southern strategy was built on this premise, using coded language — “law and order,” “silent majority” — to destroy the alliance between blacks and white labor that had been the foundation of the Democratic Party, and to bring about the Republican ascendancy of the past several decades.

Mr. Patterson isn’t satisfied associating Hillary with the KKK he decides to throw in the Kitchen sink and associate her with Richard Nixon.

It is significant that the Clinton campaign used its telephone ad in Texas, where a Fox poll conducted Feb. 26 to 28 showed that whites favored Mr. Obama over Mrs. Clinton 47 percent to 44 percent, and not in Ohio, where she held a comfortable 16-point lead among whites. Exit polls on March 4 showed the ad’s effect in Texas: a 12-point swing to 56 percent of white votes toward Mrs. Clinton. It is striking, too, that during the same weekend the ad was broadcast, Mrs. Clinton refused to state unambiguously that Mr. Obama is a Christian and has never been a Muslim.

Interesting that he is quoting a Fox poll don’t you think? What this so-called professor neglects to mention is that all of the polls showed a much tighter race in Texas than Ohio. And that is the reason why the “competency” ad was used there. Because Texans were bamboozled once before by a slick talker that looked good in a cowboy hat. They know first hand exactly how incompetent a good image can be. And they won’t be hoodwinked again.

And as to Hillary’s “refusal” to declare that Obama was never a Muslim, how in the hell would she know. His dad was a Muslim. His step dad was a Muslim when they lived in Indonesia, the most populous Muslim nation on earth where Islam is the unofficial state religion. So it might be conceivable that he was raised Muslim by his stepfather. But Hillary can only take Obama’s word for it. How would she know one way or the other? And when Steve Kroft tried to gotcha her she actually came to Obama’s defense. This selective revisionist history goes along well with the racism meme though. Quite fitting in fact.

And finally Mr. Patterson leaves us with an out for his interpretations. It’s as if he is saying: You walk like a racist and talk like a racist and….. but he leaves this part intentionally blank.

It is possible that what I saw in the ad is different from what Mrs. Clinton and her operatives saw and intended. But as I watched it again and again I could not help but think of the sorry pass to which we may have come — that someone could be trading on the darkened memories of a twisted past that Mr. Obama has struggled to transcend.

I wonder if the phrase “darkened memories” has a racial overtone to it?

I have a brother that is a paranoid schizophrenic. He really believes that everyone in our family is out to poison and murder him. Nothing we say or do can change his mind. Believe me we have all tried. It’s always the same. We are out to get him. Perfect strangers are his best friends, unless we may have talked to them once before, or their cars are the same color as ours or… well you get the picture. It is a very difficult thing to live with, knowing that someone you are related to feels strongly that you are out to injure him on a daily basis. Honestly it is heart wrenching at times.

But there is one thing I have learned over the years in dealing with him. And that is that I have no control over the situation and that as much as I know medication will help him I cannot force him to take it. Because even if I could, he wouldn’t understand that I was doing it for his benefit and would hate me all the more for it.

People like Mr. Patterson are similarly obsessed and living in a world of lies. They see racism everywhere. A blackboard is a whitey conspiracy. And so on. There is no hope for people like that. Even all of Obama’s hope won’t help them. They are like lost children that will never know the comfort of a loving family because all they see is hate, deception and distrust.

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Comment by jwrjr | 2008-03-11 22:41:49

It seems to me that the people denouncing others as “racist” are usually more racist than the ones they are denouncing.

Comment by DisenfranchisedVoter | 2008-03-11 23:11:14

I agree. I can’t imagine living in the world Patterson lives in. So everyone who isn’t black is the enemy and anyone who dares to criticize or call out a black person is a racist. Do you know what the Republicans will say? Stop the affirmative action bullsh*t. Right now Obama has not only become the black candidate but his surrogates have turned him into an affirmative action candidate: a candidate not tough enough to answer tough questions, who shouldn’t be criticized on his record, who should sail through the nomination and general election without scrutiny or question because that would be racist. Give me a break. The Republicans are not going to give a sh*t what Patterson or any of Obama’s minions say and Obama will never make inroads with white voters.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-11 23:32:34

I agree that the Republicans are going to have a heyday if they get their chance with Obama.

 
 

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-11 23:26:24

That’s been my experience. But I have also witnessed actual racism where people needed someone to stand up for them. The worst part of what Patterson claims is that because of his racist paranoia he helps people ignore the real racism that does exist.

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-03-11 23:35:51

That is why I didn’t say “always more racist”. There are some legitimate cases. Just not a large percentage of them,

 
 
 

Comment by myiq2xu | 2008-03-11 22:51:48

Fleaflicker:

Can you give me a cite or a quote on that part about Obama accusing Edwards of racism?

Date or location would do. I tried googling it but haven’t found it.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-11 23:30:13

At this very minute I am unable to provide any links. I am nearly falling asleep here. As I remember it, it wasn’t Obama himself that went after Edwards, it was his surrogates. Perhaps after some rest it will come to me. I apologize for not having the information right at hand.

 

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 10:10:36

It took me a little while but here is what you requested. I had to add do the search as: Edwards the most electable racism to find it. But there are several articles. here is one:

http://archives.gophercentral.com/Edwards_Says_He’s_Most_Electable,_but…_progressive_review.html

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 10:14:03

I had to add to the search, not ad do the search. D’oh!

Not sure why the whole link wasn’t clickable. Will try again.

http://archives.gophercentral.com/Edwards_Says_He’s_Most_Electable,_but…_progressive_review.html

 
 
 

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-03-11 22:59:20

Ferraro is standing up for herself:

“Any time anybody does anything that in any way pulls this campaign down and says let’s address reality and the problems we’re facing in this world, you’re accused of being racist, so you have to shut up,” Ferraro said. “Racism works in two different directions. I really think they’re attacking me because I’m white. How’s that?

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-11 23:35:33

I am glad to see her standing up for herself. I think that the gist of what she originally said was accurate though it isn’t playing well in the press. And her reaction isn’t pretty. But I fully understand why she is saying what she is.

Comment by Andy | 2008-03-12 10:40:42

She is frustrated by the viciousness of Axelrod’s attacks and the media reaction/baiting on it.

People are comparing her role in Clinton’s to that of Power, Rice, Goolsbee and using her to
blur the lines of how bad Obama’s own advisors are.

Ferraro is no advisor of Clinton. But the media
ignores this. They are more ineterested in imflaming the issue and playing only by Obama’s rules.

ABC entitled their piece sth. like : Ferraro is venting her frustration over Obama’s winning. What a dirty title…

Aagggggrrrrr !!!!

 
 

Comment by simon | 2008-03-12 10:41:18

I think the republican racists, and some are, and the Obama-Kos racists should duke it out.

Me, I’m only concerned with how this affects the future of the AA community, politically, beacuse I know exactly how this issue will be exploited by the Republicans, home of the Obama fifty plus one strategy.

 
 

Comment by Mary Jo Kopechne | 2008-03-11 23:15:43

Here’s a link for a short essay by Orlando Patterson from 2000 called Race Over. I’ve taught this numerous times to students who wonder why he says race no longer matters. This contradicts his NYT’s op-ed. Can he have it both ways?

http://web.ebscohost.com/ehost/detail?vid=2&hid=116&sid=373fc7fd-46ae-43ed-9ca9-dbace1f5bfa2%40sessionmgr7

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-11 23:43:12

The guy is a hack apparently. I think his writing has improved but not his mind.

I think that he believes he can have it both ways just as Obama believes he can have it both ways. They seem to feel as if they are entitled and not subject to the normal rules of common society.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-12 10:43:15

Is he on someone’s payroll, wasn’t there noise about that, journalists accepting money from the RNC, or Rove, awhile back?

Anybody check Obama’s books?

 
 
 

Comment by SueB. | 2008-03-11 23:29:13

Orlando Patterson…is he black? Harvard Grad, and spewing this crap? There’s your unintended negative consequence of affirmative action. Yep.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-12 10:50:25

Orlando Patterson…is he black? Harvard Grad, and spewing this crap? There’s your unintended negative consequence of affirmative action. Yep

Yes, thank you for your comment.

And George Bush is the unintended consequence of affirmative action for the wealthy, a legacy admit.

When Patterson comes back to cite the racism of No Quarter, your quote is the type he will use, covert racism.

Some think this is also deliberate, setting Larry up as racist, just another dirty trick from the old guys, unable to think of new ideas, to discredit NQ, a moldy old clumsy troll attempt.

Affirmative action has nothing to do with Patterson’s opinions.

Much more likely, he may have taken money.

lol.

 
 

Comment by chris | 2008-03-11 23:35:02

This is so going to backfire on Obama.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-11 23:43:47

I really “hope” you are right.

 

Comment by mostest | 2008-03-12 09:21:57

I agree. He is crying “wolf” too much. I think reasonable thinking people (all races) will take a step back and say “wait a minute” is Obama justing his race as a shield to wart off valid campaign issues?

OH yeah, How about that “Uniter” thing he was soooo gifted at?

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 10:15:33

Yeah, the unite meme has been replaced by divide and conquer.

 
 

Comment by Gregoryp | 2008-03-12 13:44:00

I think you are absolutely correct. His surrogates have successfully painted a life-long civil rights advocate as a despicable, evil racist through crying wolf. The unfortunate part is that when real racist attacks are levied against him in the general he’ll wind up looking like the foolish boy who cried wolf. Nobody is going to believe him or his surrogates and nobody is going to care and the GOP will get a free pass once again. I’ve said it over and over again that Obama has run one of the worst campaigns ever. He might get the nomination but I think his antics in the nomination process will prevent him from having any shot at the general unless something strange happens. It appears to be a case of committing political suicide for no apparent reason. He was going to get those black votes regardless of what he did or said. Making Hillary out to be an evil racist was unnecessary and counterproductive. Of course, being a serial liar is gonna hurt him tremendously.

 
 

Comment by lemonv | 2008-03-11 23:43:50

As written before by me, the Obama team or his surrogates will racebait again and look what happened.

Be prepared for this racebait to go into overdrive before the Penn. primary. The only thing I could not understand is why the majority of Americans fall for it over and over again. Could somebody pls.enlighten me about this?

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-11 23:48:38

I fear that you are absolutely right that this will only increase as the stakes become higher. And as to your question about why people aren’t seeing this for what it is I think they have been hypnotized or something. I honestly have no other explanation for it. Unless maybe 7+ years of Bush has dumbed down the electorate enough to buy this pantload of crap he keeps dishing out.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-12 10:59:47

And as to your question about why people aren’t seeing this for what it is I think they have been hypnotized or something. I

Well, it also points to leadership and truth, adn again, a compliant press.

Where are the Edwards Murrows, intelligently analyzing this issue for the public?

Even Jesse Jackson, Sr, stepping back and calling it would help tremendously.

But it would appear, and I might be wrong, some subtle race baiting is now taking place, here, at NQ, and this is being used to discredit the site.

Don’t take the bait, racism in all it’s form is reprehensible shit.

Reverse racism?

If we’re light skinned, it’s not racism, don’t insult my intelligence, we have no concept of what it is to be black in America, none.

Obama, or Kos, or Karl Rove, or the idiot who is in his own amateur fat fisted way tyring to troll this site, right now, with race, are obtuse individuals, thick, trying to create fires to draw awat from the real issues.

No thanks.

 
 
 

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-03-11 23:44:44

Here’s another great piece on the brouhaha:

Hold On–’3 A.M.’ Wasn’t Racist

Obama supporters cry wolf on race again.

Sean Wilentz, The New Republic Published: Tuesday, March 11, 2008

(Ferraro is correct.)

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-11 23:51:36

You are killing me by offering even more wonder stuff to read. Just kidding. I will look into this in the morning.

 

Comment by Blue State Girl | 2008-03-12 08:50:06

I also recommend James Wolcott’s 3 O’Clock Rock.

Now that everybody’s a media expert, savvy to the gleaming fingertips of perception, pundits and professors alike have become deep-sea subtextualists when it comes to decoding political spots. Give them a few frames of Fassbinder to study and they’ll come up dry, but stick a YouTube parody or Web ad in front of them and suddenly they can peel through ten layers of emulsion thick with socio-cultural-ethnic-semiotic significance. On today’s op-ed page of the Times, Orlando Patterson hit the high-dive board over Hillary Clinton’s “3 AM phone call” ad* and met the ghost of D. W. Griffith on the way down…

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 10:25:53

Seems that asswipe Andrew Sullivan has chimed in as well:

It’s 3 am

Orlando Patterson believes there is a racial sub-text to the Clintons’ red phone ad. The more I think about it the more I can see his point. It strikes me that the ad was primarily aimed at white and Latina women. It makes no sense as a national security experience ad; it is all about very powerful memes of mothers and children, danger and security. And yes, plenty of Latina and white women may harbor inchoate fears about black men at large in the middle of the night.

I cannot know the motives of those who made the ad. I do know the Clintons are perfectly capable of subliminal or subtextual use of bigotry and racial fear. More significant, it’s a purely emotional appeal. The idea that the Clintons are the rational ones in this campaign, that they are the mature adults capable of managing the country soberly and reasonably, has been detonated by this campaign and by the emotional roller-coaster the Clintons always force us to ride with them.

What an incoherent jerk. This from the same gasbag that claimed Obama is the liberal Reagan that will untie the country. The country sure doesn’t seem to be uniting to me.

 
 
 

Comment by ruhla | 2008-03-11 23:46:31

Race was injected into Obama’s campaign when Oprah endorsed and stood with him, and they talked “in dialect”. Since then he has used race both as a shield and as a tool for devision. This man is not a uniter, but an opportunist.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-11 23:53:29

I didn’t watch the Oprah thing. Really couldn’t stomach it. So I have no idea what you are talking about. but I agree, he is an opportunist.

Comment by Gloria | 2008-03-12 19:43:56

He did the same thingin MS as he did in SC…stalks the stage, laughing, pitting blacks against the “bamboozlers.” Meanwhile, he’s the biggest bamboozler of all. Mr. Community Organizer taking money from a guy who doesn’t provide heat to his mostly black tenants during the winter. Nice work, Obama…

 
 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-03-12 00:11:19

I can explain Orlando Patterson. He’s part of the black intelligentsia, the black celebrity elite, all of whom have lost their collective minds over Obama’s candidacy. As an AA, I have to say I’m shocked. I thought these people had more self-esteem than this. Certainly I thought they had more intelligence. And now they’re even contradicting themselves and their previous history because of this desperation to have this bi-racial candidate installed as POTUS. It’s like some kind of mass hysteria has consumed them over this candidacy. Frankly, they’re irrational.

If you were to show them the footage of that was posted on this site of Rezko’s slum dwellings where low income blacks were living in such vile conditions, in Obama’s own district no less, they wouldn’t even care. Like I said, they’ve lost their collective minds over Obama and boy are they going to be shocked to discover that he is a liar and a fake.

Personally, I ignore them. I was at a social function over the weekend and I shut a whole group of them up. How did I do this? With information… facts… details. None of these people, black or white, have a clue what this man stands for because he stands for NOTHING.

This pretty much sums Obama supporters up: It’s etiher ethnic pride or Clinton hatred.

Meanwhile, the country is going to seed and all they care about is guilting America. I wish they’d expend that same energy on the more relevant social issues concerning black America instead of this ego trip. And even more important, I wish Obama would too.

Comment by Marjorie | 2008-03-12 00:58:21

Nicely and concisely put.

 

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 08:46:08

First of all I am totally blown away by your comments. You say this with such persuasive certainty. I would love to read more of your opinions in diaries. And if you are already doing this please point me in the right direction to find you.

I agree. Obama stands for nothing. Or rather, he stands for whatever will make him popular. It’s all about him.

 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-03-12 09:34:45

 

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-03-12 11:05:53

That is powerful writing, Mimi. I feel like posting that, with that video, as a stand-alone post.

 

Comment by Gloria | 2008-03-12 20:12:06

Insightful and well-said, Mimi.

 
 

Comment by bayathena | 2008-03-12 00:19:33

Washington Post has an interesting stat: 90% of AAs in Miss. voted for Obama. 70% of whites for Clinton. Does not bode well for November election if Obama is the nominee.

Governor Rendell was right: the country may not be ready for a black nominee.

As for Ferraro, she has a lot of guts to say what others are thinking knowing that she will be attacked for it.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/livecoverage/2008/03/obama_strongly_favored_in_miss.html

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 08:49:35

I don’t care for the demographics either. We are splitting apart as a country. And I fear that many blacks now see whites as the enemy. And just as unfortunately vice versa. This isn’t good and the fact that it is happening WITHIN the Democratic party is much worse.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-12 09:33:16

OK, so the greater goal is to support delegates like Lewis, who are coerced, essentially, into changing their support.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 10:27:27

It sure isn’t my goal. But it does seem to be a definite game plan of team Obama.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-12 11:39:01

No, I was thinking the democratic community should offer more support to delegates like Lewis, who seem to have been pushed into changing candidates, against their will.

I don’t know that, he just appeared very very unhappy.

Delegates should not be intimidated.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 17:33:03

I’m sorry, I misunderstood. I agree that they should not be intimidated and that we should support them.

 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by rwc | 2008-03-12 00:41:00

Progressive whites have been some of the biggest proponents of injecting race into this campaign IMO. They’ve been insinuating for some time that whites are not supporting Obama in sufficient numbers because they are racist, especially older ones.

Hell even the MSM has been penning articles to that affect as well.

And of course Obama himself exploits the race aspect himself with his code words.

It will also cause some ugly blowback should Obama win the nomination. A lot of people will not like the racist label being thrown at them for not supporting the miracle from Chicago.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 08:52:32

I agree with you but I have a hard time calling those folks “progressive”. This ain’t progress.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-12 09:13:19

I agree with you but I have a hard time calling those folks “progressive”. This ain’t progress.

Grassroots pretend, astroturf.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 09:19:47

Love the astroturf comment. Hillaryous!

 
 
 
 

Comment by Smilin' Jim | 2008-03-12 00:50:38

Criticize the Israelis for shooting Palestinian preteens to doll rags or bulldozing Yank college kids and you are an antisemite. Show up this yuppie for what he is and you’re a racist.

The symmetry,oh the symmetry.

Has Patterson volunteered to the the black Dershowitz?

 

Comment by mimi | 2008-03-12 01:05:39

All I can say is: STAND YOUR GROUND! That’s what I’m doing. This is a democracy, a principle feature of which is choice. And I’ve chosen Hillary because I know she is the more qualified, more prepared candidate and because I’m not blinded by this irrational Clinton hatred.

Also, Obama has yet to show me he has a fluid command of all the issues. When he has to speak extemporaneously, he flounders, stammers and says ‘uh’ a lot. I noticed today he was working without a script. And frankly, he was really dull. He also got himself into a bit of trouble with Lou Dobbs over misquoting Dobbs’ position on immigration while he was pandering to latinos. Dobbs called him on it and put him on notice.

Obama also doesn’t look as at-ease now that he’s had to change his format and the press is questioning him instead of swallowing everything he says like gold. He clearly doesn’t like to be in this situation and I say, we already have a president like this. We don’t need another one who can’t hold a decent press conference and resents being challenged and is just to dependent on advisers and can’t think on his feet.

This is NOT about color, race or gender. It’s about preparedness, readiness… toughness and fight.

But the real problem at this point is that the Democratic Party is going to LOSE substantial support in Nov. I believe that they’ll lose more with Obama, which is why they’re trying to guilt as many white folks into voting for him. They’re even doing that with black people saying things like, “you don’t want to miss out on being part of an historic opportunity by not voting for a black man.” To that I say hooey. If he’s not the right black man, I could care less.

IMO, the Democratic Party failed its members BIG TIME! This is LARGER than Obama or Hillary. It’s about standing my ground against idiots like Dean, Ted and Kerry. For God’s sake, didn’t the party learn its lesson with Ted in 1980? A vote for Obama is a vote for these petty, egotistical, know-nothings. Sorry, but… you know that line? Well, they crossed it.

Comment by Blue State Girl | 2008-03-12 08:53:31

This is LARGER than Obama or Hillary. It’s about standing my ground against idiots like Dean, Ted and Kerry.

I think this requires further explanation….

 

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 09:04:36

Such wonderful insight.

The thing that hits me the most is what you just stated. The Obama campaign is actively pressuring people to support Obama BECAUSE of his race. This “historic opportunity” crap may not be race baiting but it sure is race pandering. And I agree that the white “intelligencia” is pushing the meme as well. It has become a race about race rather than a race about substance.

When people try to convince you to vote for someone because of his or her race they are hoodwinking you. Because only a blind person would vote for someone merely because of their race.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-12 09:11:04

When people try to convince you to vote for someone because of his or her race they are hoodwinking you

I mentioned in another thread this tactic of Obama will spur a backlash against the greater AA community.

I also think, given Bill and Hillary’s past history, this issue can be mitigated.

The last thing anyone wants is to see the AA political movement set back by Obama’s morons, and his moronic tactics, it’s pretty easy to see where this is headed.

IMO.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 09:18:26

I fear it is already spurring a backlash.

Comment by simon | 2008-03-12 09:28:11

I fear it is already spurring a backlash.

It’s infuriating to see Obama set the cause of civil rights back, with this cynical, and deliberate use of racism.

I keep seeing Rep Lewis’s face as he defended Clinton, and then switching to Obama, he appeared so sad, I thought it was tragic.

And wrong.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 10:33:35

I agree. Watching Lewis switching allegiance was heart breaking.

 

Comment by Andy | 2008-03-12 12:49:28

You should watch closely the Obama-Clinton exchange at the SC debate when Clinton mentioned Rezko.
Lewis is literally applauding her for that
comment. (while on the background others boo).

It’s very interesting. Susan put that video up
(was a CNN replay I think) not too long ago.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by Andy | 2008-03-12 12:46:18

There have been some interesting polls recently hat show that about 70% of Clinton voters would in principle not be satisfied if Obama were the nominee while only about 50% of Obama’s say that about Clinton.

I am not sure what this means …

Comment by Gregoryp | 2008-03-12 13:45:26

I think it means you’ll have to call him President John McCain.

 
 
 

Comment by Dora Ratquila | 2008-03-12 02:59:43

The tenor of Team Hillary’s response to Team Obama’s asininely revolting comments on any subject (including race) should be maintainted: factual and to the point. Kudos to Maggie Williams! In the meantime and with an eye on the November elections, the advertising should focus on the achievements of the candidate on a variety of subject that matter to Americans - their jobs, healthcare, national security, etc - to provide the best contrast to the non-existing record of accomplishments of the other primary candidate. Pretty soon, he will be exposed as nothing more than a sweet-talking, favor-taking DEMAGOGUE who is unfit to become this nation’s CIC! HRC, 44th POTUS!

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 09:07:20

Good advice. If the pro Hillary 527s were to start running ads comparing the achievements of Obama to Hillary it might open up some folks eyes.

Comment by Andy | 2008-03-12 12:50:43

I haven’t noticed or seen any 527’s yet for Clinton;
are there any ? Can you point to sth. they have done already to help?

Thanks!

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 17:34:29

I have no idea who they are but I head they were formed and attempting to help.

 
 
 
 

Comment by ned bulous | 2008-03-12 07:19:09

Although it is absurd for anyone to read racism into the 3am ad, the MOST offensive statements are clearly coming from the Clinton camp!

Farraro’s remarks were ridiculous and unacceptable!! Does she REALLY think that black males are in such an enviable position that there is NO OTHER WAY to explain Obama’s success?!?!?!? How did that work out for Presidents Sharpton, Keyes, and Jackson?

You may have also noticed that she thinks that SHE only got the VP slot because she’s female! And I always assumed she got the position because of her accomplishments (which are nowhere as extensive as Sen. Obama)!

The only way “Affirmative Action” would play a role in the nomination is if the person who won fewer delegates, fewer states, and less of the popular vote got the nomination! This is why Hillary cannot win- she cannot mathematically overtake Obama in ANY of these legitimate measures, so she is counting on the SuperDelegates to OVERTURN the will of the people for intangible reasons (like her political connections or her gender, or the fact that she went to Bosnia with Sheryl Crow and Sinbad on an entertainment tour!) Overturning the votes of the people in this manner WOULD constitute Affirmative Action!

Comment by Rob Gard | 2008-03-12 08:35:00

Ned. in the Democratic Party, it is the votes of Democrats that count (or that is the way it should be, in a world seen through the eyes of someone other than Screaming Dean). Obama won lots of states, just not many states that even have a snowball’s chance in hell of going Democratic in November. He also wins the states with more critters than people; and more of the states that hold less than democratic caucuses. Other than his “home state” of Illinois, what big wins does he have ? If it weren’t for Republican cross-over “Democrats for a Day”, Obama wouldn’t even be in the hunt, and those Republicans will return to their party and won’t be there for him in November. And there has been no question that all of the “race baiting” in this campaign has come from the Obama camp. The speaking in different dialects and cadences in the South, the use of “dog whistle” code words (bamboozled), are a few instances of race baiting. The Superdelegate concept was promulgated to provide for a body of wise and ultimately independent party “elders” to save the party from making terrible candidate choices, with the goal of making sure the most electible candidate secures the nomination, regardless of popular vote or pledged delegates, or any other factor. I’m not so sure that I support the concept of Superdelegates at all, but we are constrained to deal with them for at least this election cycle. If the entire concept is wrong, then let’s do away with Superdelegates altogether, but until that occurs, we can try to sway them one way or another, but must ultimately respect their authority to vote as they see fit.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 09:12:38

Good points. I also am not so sure I agree with the concept of superdelegates but I do understand why they were given the power they have.

Neither candidate has the capacity to gain the nomination without the superdelegates. And the rules state that superdelegates are not bound to support any candidate for any other reason than they support that candidate.

 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-03-12 09:41:53

He also wins the states with more critters than people; “Bambi’ votes for Hillary?” asked the wolverine?
:)

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 10:34:34

 
 
 

Comment by bama_barrron | 2008-03-12 09:03:19

ned i love your obama math … lets not forget obama cant win the nomination by the numbers either … oh my … did your forget the other side of the equation?

far as i’m concerned all bets are off if neither can win … open up the convention and let the politics begin. democracy is a messy proposition at best.

Comment by ned bulous | 2008-03-12 09:42:56

Are you suggesting that Hillary CAN overtake Obama’s pledged delegate lead (about 162), his number of states won (30 compared to 14), or his popular vote (900,000 more than Hillary)???

I said that she has no chance mathematically of overtaking these and is relying on the ‘Affirmative Action’ of Superdelegates to overturn the will of the people. Apparently you think it IS possible for Hillary to overtake Obama in these areas and, therefore, win legitimately?

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-03-12 09:49:53

win legitimately?

Rethugs for a day, race baiting, Lying, strong arming caucus people Vote for me because I have no experience where it matters and if you don’t you are a racist?

You really are a figment Nie. And yes all things considered…yes We will.

Comment by Fleaflicker | 2008-03-12 10:36:43

Funny how the Obama followers maintain that they are running a clean campaign and that Hillary is the monster.

 
 

Comment by PMS | 2008-03-12 11:25:17

Ned,

What you call “Affirmative Action” by the Superdelegates perhaps supporting HRC might better be defined as “Suicide Intervention” for the Democratic Party.

Obama 08: Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

Comment by It'sNotMe | 2008-03-12 16:49:06

After the Michigan and FL delegates are seated, Hillary will have a lead in the popular vote. When they do have their revote, Hillary will win BIG, again, because Mr. Hope didn’t want those states seated. I’m sure he ticked off more than a few MI and FL voters by fighting the seating of their delegates.

Hillary has the popular vote and Mr. Hope has the most pledged delegates going into the convention…then what? MORE people will have voted for HILLARY, not Mr. Hope. Hillary won the states DEMOCRATS MUST WIN IN NOVEMBER to win the election. If the Super Delegates have any brains at all, they will choose the candidate THE PEOPLE voted for and the one that CAN WIN. That would be Hillary.

 
 
 

Comment by Eddie | 2008-03-12 21:04:04

At The Common Ills, C.I. steered everyone to Peter Hart’s article from March 2007 (FAIR) about “Obamamania.”
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3094

I guess Peter Hart will be fired next because he’s documenting how race did delight the press.

 
 

Comment by yttik | 2008-03-12 07:53:39

Most of the race baiting and accusations of racism are coming from white Obama supporters. They’re using it like a weapon to silence dissent. It gets kind of ironic because racism isn’t about words or photos, it’s about power. So in the end the 72 yr old black woman on my street is the one being accused of racism by white people. I don’t why that astounds me, it just seems all bass ackwards.

Comment by ned bulous | 2008-03-12 09:26:02

Care to give an example? It seems that the Clinton supporters (including Rendel, Ferraro, and Pres. Clinton himself) are race-baiting. I would not call them ‘racist’, but they are DEFINITELY playing to racist sentiments in the populace.

Where are the ‘race-baiting’ white Obama supporters you reference? Please cite an example.

BTW, if Ferraro’s assertion that sexism is a bigger problem than racism is true, why is Obama the ONLY African-American in the Senate? I think both racism and sexism are a problem, but I know that there are far more than ONE woman in the US Senate!

Comment by Kat | 2008-03-12 09:39:26

Just to give you a few:

That race memo floating around to the press by Obama aids before SC primary. They even listed Bill’s fairy tale comment. Give me a break, that was for Obama’s aiti-war stance.

And how about Jesse Jackson Jr’s O.J. comparison?
“The natural reminder here is O.J. Simpson, how does an African-American candidate attack a white woman.”

And how about Obama himself? He have been using words like ‘bamboolze’, ‘hoodwink’ in his speech a lot when he talks mostly to African American audience.

You really shouldn’t bring up the US senate, this will only weaken you argument. Of course there should be far more than ONE women in US Senate. For crying out loud, women accounts for more than 50% of the population. Now only 16 women senators in a 100-person body, that’s 16%.

Comment by ned bulous | 2008-03-12 09:50:56

And African Americans are about 10% of the population, but comprise 1% of the Senate. . . So aren’t BOTH a problem?

To put it in perspective, women comprise 32% what they SHOULD have in the Senate (16/50=.32). While African Americans have 10% of what they SHOULD in the Senate (1/10= 10%).

I know Bill Clinton would NEVER lie or mislead! OF COURSE he NEVER meant to denigrate Obama with that “fairy tale” comment or calling Obama a ‘child’!

Is Jesse Jackson a member of the Obama staff like Clinton and Ferraro?

BTW:

bamboozle |bamˈboōzəl|
verb [ trans. ] informal
fool or cheat (someone) : Tom Sawyer bamboozled the neighborhood boys into doing it for him.
• (often be bamboozled) confound or perplex : bamboozled by the number of savings plans being offered.
ORIGIN early 18th cent.: of unknown origi