Obama’s Pastor: “God Damn America”
By SusanUnPC on March 13, 2008 at 12:25 PM in Barack Obama, Black Agenda Report, Hillary Clinton, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.
From Good Morning America today on the ABC network:
Obama’s Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11
Obama’s Pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Has a History of What Even Obama’s Campaign Aides Say Is ‘Inflammatory Rhetoric’By BRIAN ROSS and REHAB EL-BURI
March 13, 2008—Sen. Barack Obama’s pastor says blacks should not sing “God Bless America” but “God damn America.”
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago’s south side, has a long history of what even Obama’s campaign aides concede is “inflammatory rhetoric,” including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own “terrorism.”
In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, “I don’t think my church is actually particularly controversial.” He said Rev. Wright “is like an old uncle who says things I don’t always agree with,” telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.
Rev. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, “The Audacity of Hope.”
An ABC News review of dozens of Rev. Wright’s sermons, offered for sale by the church, found repeated denunciations of the U.S. based on what he described as his reading of the Gospels and the treatment of black Americans.
“The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people,” he said in a 2003 sermon. “God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.”
In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda’s attacks because of its own terrorism. [MORE BELOW.]
MORE FROM the ABC News story:
… the United States had brought on al Qaeda’s attacks because of its own terrorism.
“We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye,” Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.
“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost,” he told his congregation.
Sen. Obama told the New York Times he was not at the church on the day of Rev. Wright’s 9/11 sermon. “The violence of 9/11 was inexcusable and without justification,” Obama said in a recent interview. “It sounds like he was trying to be provocative,” Obama told the paper.
[…]
“He has impacted the life of Barack Obama so much so that he wants to portray that feeling he got from Rev. Wright onto the country because we all need something positive,” said another member of the congregation.
Rev. Wright, who declined to be interviewed by ABC News, is considered one of the country’s 10 most influential black pastors, according to members of the Obama campaign.
Obama has praised at least one aspect of Rev. Wright’s approach, referring to his “social gospel” and his focus on Africa, “and I agree with him on that.”
Sen. Obama declined to comment on Rev. Wright’s denunciations of the United States, but a campaign religious adviser, Shaun Casey, appearing on “Good Morning America” Thursday, said Obama “had repudiated” those comments.
In a statement to ABCNews.com, Obama’s press spokesman Bill Burton said, “Sen. Obama has said repeatedly that personal attacks such as this have no place in this campaign or our politics, whether they’re offered from a platform at a rally or the pulpit of a church. Sen. Obama does not think of the pastor of his church in political terms. Like a member of his family, there are things he says with which Sen. Obama deeply disagrees. But now that he is retired, that doesn’t detract from Sen. Obama’s affection for Rev. Wright or his appreciation for the good works he has done.”
This is just one of the many reasons that Obama is the weaker candidate in the GE. It is so easy for the MCM to attack him about stuff like this. They are slowly building the narrative against him. No flag pin. Weird middle name - secret Muslim? Loves Farrakhan and Wright. Deeply connected with Syrian Reszko with ties to the Middle East and terrorism. Yada yada yada blah blah blah.
Personally, I agree that blowback did contribute to 9/11, and that America has not been kind to its AA population. If I were AA, I might say “God Damn America” too.
Unfortunately, the idiots who already think Obama is “unpatriotic” will jump on this as “proof” that he doesn’t “love his country.”
What’s your point?
Your writing is unclear.
heh.
Can you read? What’s unclear about madamab’s post.
I get it. Once McCain and the republican right wing smear machine gets hold of this they will use it to make mincemeat of Obama.
Fair? Right? hell no. But it is also reality.
Yes, he’s being disingenuous.
And so are you.
Man your about a stupid azz. If you listen to that stuff for 20 years then do you really beleive what he saying now. No way Jose, this guy will do and say anything to get to be president. Check out this video for the truth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WxtYDifB_o and I made this video so it is ok to use here
Preaching racial harmony in America publicly while praticing racial hatred against white americans in secret. I’m sorry,not buying into this. It would seem that Obama not only has a problem loving all people of this country, but loving the country itself. How could a man that hates whites be Commander in Chief over the many sons and daughters of white men and women whose lives are on the line right now defending us against radical religious extremists and at the same time, agree with these extremists who are trying to kill them? Ridiculous. Let me tell you something about reverse racism. The first problem for me is the term “African American”. For those that subscribe to this description of themselves are saying that Africa is their origin, and the first country to which they pledge allegiance. And what exactly has Africa done for any of them? How many of them have ever been there? Would they like the way the future has turned out for the African people, starvation, plaque, death and poverty? How many of those “African Americans” what to give up their lives here in America and trade places with them? How their ancestors got here is unimportant, it is! The fact of the matter is that now their families don’t starve and live in deplorable filth and poverty in anyway comparable to that of a large portion of the African people. Many other races of people came to this country under similiar conditions, even poorer conditions, and both now and then were grateful for a chance at a good life for themselves and their children in this great country. They don’t call themselves “Japanese Americans” or “Chinese Americans” or “Irish Americans” they are Americans, and they appreciate her (America) as I do, and so the first problem with this kind of attitude to me, is their ungratefulness and divided loyality which is all fake and pretense anyhow because not one of them would willingly choose the life of a “real” African citizen. Also, I was approached just the other day at work by a black man who wanted to know if I had ever considered dating a “brother”. To which my question would be, “are you my father’s brother? My grandfather? My brother’s brother? Obviously we’re not all of the same family since somewhere along the way, you divided yourself from all the family I know, and attached your own self by your own choice to some other family that is an elite group. No, therefore, since by your own admission your a “brother” to some other type of people and not a “brother” to me and my family, I don’t date you. This keeps the hate alive. It is yourselves that won’t let it go and I don’t want that kind of atitude in charge of me, my family, or my country because it will always be the same as the old racism, unfair and full of hate.
Well that does it. Guess this means Senator Obama is a racist. All white folks better run since Senator Obama’s coming to Pennsylvania via Rev. Jeremiah “BlubberStupid” Wright. Senator Clinton WINS THE NOMINATION! Beers for all!
Oh let me stop. Once again, it’s Attack of the Angry Surrogate. Let the repudiations begin!
Are Obama’s money smurfs as lame as your trolls?
You know, mediocre uncreative thinking, pedantic, predictable structuring around weak attempts to obfuscate??
No one will jump on this, you’re on Pluto.
BUT, you will not be dissuaded, simply because you don’t know what else to do, and you cannot accept you are not competitive, you cannot analyze.
And Obama is in some DEEP DEEP shit.
So your someone else’s bitch, you just don’t get it, or see it.
And you dont understand it, either.
But you lose.
I already know Senator Obama will lose the Dem nomination “simple” simon. I could care less since I’m a member of a third party. Senator Obama can’t win for several reasons:
1. Rezco’s too new.
2. Obama can’t maintain the “Hope” message.
3. Obama’s inexperience is easy to criticize.
So quit all the pig latin. The reason I like this site is because of Larry Johnson’s splendid security analysis. But I can’t stand the Clinton - Obama supporter wars. And I call stuff as I see stuff. Heck, the Kos commenters always give me grief when I call out their nonsense about Senator Clinton.
So there! Don’t let the manhole hit your head on the way down buddy.
Now tighten those butt cheeks, yes sir, and walk off in a flaming huff!
It’s verbal structuring to obfuscate, protect the stash.
And it’s simplistic crap.
Now tighten those butt cheeks, yes sir, and walk off in a flaming huff!
Huh?
It’s verbal structuring to obfuscate, protect the stash.
Your point?
And it’s simplistic crap.
Yes it’s simplistic. And could be crap. But it’s pretty. See your a member of the partisan gang. Gotta win the point no matter what. So if it makes you feel good to talk about my butt cheeks (O…K…) then by all means, talk about ‘em. We need some humor around here.
And I’m a very “un-serious” guy by nature. So I like to have fun with my words.
So there squared!
T-Steel,
Has Obama speared his white grandparents yet?
Tomorrow is the spearing and cleaning. Saturday’s the roast. And Sunday is “Church with Rev. Wright-O”. We’ll use the bones from the roast to applaud each and every Wright-O word.
Cee Hussein -
Obama threw his white Granmother under the bus in an attempt to divert attention away from his anti-American relationship with Rev. Wrong.
He even changed the story from what was in his book about her being afraid of an aggressive beggar by a bus stop one time to her being afraid of black men on the street, just to make her sound worse.
The Obamas will use anyone for personal gain. They liked going to the biggest black church in Chicago and didn’t care if it was similar in content to the neighbors he hit Tony “The Fixer” Rezko up for - Louis Farakhan’s Nation of Islam hatefilled crap and William Ayers’ “I should have bombed more U.S. buildings.”
Kenwood, IL - home of the dangerous, land of the anti-American.
What is that word again?
“He who lives in a glass house shouldn’t throw stones”
What about ones with no heat or water?
Of course Obama is not a racist. But he and his groupies sure do know how to play the racism card.
Sean Wilentz, via the Taylor Marsh link, repeated in thread below.
http://tinyurl.com/e8czm
.. .. I described this pattern on February 27, accounting for how the Obama campaign has cleverly played what I called the “race-baiter card”–and yet blamed Hillary Clinton. These efforts, undertaken both by Obama’s own campaign and its boosters in the press, escalated after Clinton’s surprising win in New Hampshire and in the build-up to the South Carolina primary. To recount the ugliness: Obama–through his national co-chair, Representative Jesse Jackson, Jr.–accused Clinton of studied callousness toward the victims of Hurricane Katrina; his press supporters falsely ascribed her victory to racism among New Hampshire’s Democratic voters; the Obama campaign then went on to seize upon non-controversial and historically accurate statements by Bill and Hillary Clinton (as in the notorious Martin Luther King-Lyndon Johnson episode, fully discredited by Bill Moyers and others) and called them inflammatory race-baiting.
And that’s the problem with historic campaigns: everyone is wound tight for their guy and gal so all cards are played.
I cannot stand the charges of racism and/or sexism being thrown about like both candidates have said as much. It just plain sucks (which is why I’m a third party guy).
You are trying to discredit a very real issue.
Even if the candidates were to call a truce, and they can’t, (or Obama would have to drop out, he has no record, and once he stops, the press will go NUTZ on Rezko), the republicans would use the issue surreptitiously as they have in the past, to defeat attempts at addressing racism, and sexism, furthering using divide and conquer, as part of the “southern strategy” against democrats.
And this is where the road stops for republicans, they can’t think beyond this, they’ll keep going, subject to the law of diminishing returns, forever in a circle, getting smaller and smaller.
It’s not going away, we need to address the problems, and castigate those who would prey upon our differences to simply get elected.
You know, and then what?
Look at Bush and Cheney, it’s a mess, they’re simply treading water until they drown.
So, even, why?
It doesn’t work, long term, and even they don’t know what to do.
Now imagine using this SHIT overseas, in the middle east.
See the problem?
YOu simply become a tool.
Do you understand that?
FIRST I don’t discredit racism or sexism. But I just don’t see Senator Obama as this “sexism flinger”. I just don’t see it. And I don’t see Senator Clinton throwing race around. All I see is over-analysis and over-parsing OF EVERY SINGLE WORD from a candidate’s mouth. That’s a danger in itself when you may be reading something that isn’t there. That being said, I agree wholeheartedly in this statement by you:
It’s not going away, we need to address the problems, and castigate those who would prey upon our differences to simply get elected.
Bill Clinton isn’t a racist either but he sure knew how to use his friends Johnson and Jackson.
And Bill didn’t have a problem with Farrakhan either. He though the MMM was a good idea.
Where is the fake outrage and handwringing?
Uh, the Black leaders that Bill Clinton associated with were not asking us to damn our country. And the MMM itself was OK.
When I moved into a town once, I went to the church taht someone thought was good. During my first visit minister said, “Jews killed Jesus and let’s never forget that.” I walked out when they passed the plate and regret not standing up and walking out then and there.
If this guy isn’t OK with Obama, why has he stayed for 20 years???
I don’t give a damn why he stayed in his church for twenty years and it isn’t your business either!
I didn’t post this to condemn Clinton. I posted it to show how STUPID these religous, nationalistic purity tests are.
You people are starting to remind me of the Taliban!
The Taliban? And what would you know of the Taliban? Have you been in country to fight the Ghazis?
Salo,
It wasn’t long ago that the US and Iranians were on the same side fighting the Talbian.
Care to give us a history lesson?
Yeah, it is my business. He’s a member of Obama’s spiritual team (some quasi-official capacity). Obama makes it my business since he’s been running on kumbayah since the beginning. He’s gonna heal the country’s soul! And this guy’s gonna help! He’s the one who dragged the campaign away from real issues and benefitted by it. So, he made this bed - let him lie in it.
I was taken to a backwoods Tennessee church, once, and the first words out of the preacher’s mouth (who looked like olbermann, come to think about it) were “Hillary Clinton is a lesbain,” said within a greater smear of the Clintons, whom that evangelical crowd just hated, they, the right wing equvalent of Obama’s Jesus crew.
He then asked for donations, as he needed to buy a new suit.
The church of the poisoned mind, indeed…
I was repulsed.
…the right wing equvalent of Obama’s Jesus crew.
Wright’s Jesus crew. Don’t get it twisted.
C’mon simon. Fine, your a Clinton supporter and would rather file down your corneas than see Obama get the nomination. But at least be accurate.
Wright is Obama’s Jesus crew.
Stop playing so simplistically with semantics, it makes you vulnerable.
You don’t understand that, do you?
EXCUSE ME?
Bill Clinton isn’t a racist either but he sure knew how to use his friends Johnson and Jackson.
Do you have an iota of proof that Bill told them what to say? Johnson just runs his mouth off, it is clear.
You’re REALLLLLLLLLLLLLY stretching here, Cee. I realize you are short on facts and counter-arguments, but don’t make stuff up.
Susan,
No dear, I’m not the one short on facts, Admittedly, I use the arguments of the more committed Obama supporters to battle back against was passes for debate here since my choice is no longer in the race.
Have you forgotten that Hillary stood there while Johnson said that nonsense and didn’t utter a peep?
I don’t have proof (like you and this Rezko/Whitewater nonsense) that Clinton told Andrew what to do say, but I wasn’t born yesterday.
Clinton always calls on the brothas when he needs help.
Was it helpful to Hillary and Chelsea when Andrew Young said that Bill slept with more black woman than Hillary?
Remember when Bill called “Hymie Town” Jackson to the White House to pray with him and Hillary when the Lewinsky scandal became public?
I don’t know if Obama is a racist or not. He has been pretty careful to have someone else do most of his race-baiting for him. But, he does have a nasty habit of putting on an act, much like GWB does, where he tries to talk like he supposes his audience does. He demeans his southern audiences with all the “bamboozling” and “okie-dokie” and “hoodwinking” nonsense. Does anyone believe these are words he uses in normal conversation?
When he does that, he is talking down to his audience, just like Bush does when pretends no one West of the Mississippi can speak coherently. He cannot defend his record without resorting to this. Every time he is caught in a lie, he resorts to this crap. He does not trust his audience to listen to his explanation and follow his reasoning, so he starts with the “slang”.
Hillary Clinton never disrespects her audience in this way. No matter where she is, she speaks to people like they are intelligent citizens making an informed choice. She talks about issues that matter and she speaks to everyone the same. She does not ever treat her audience like they are too stupid to understand her reasoning.
Maybe Obama is not a racist, but he is an eiltist.
Hillary Clinton never disrespects her audience in this way.
Agreed. And Barack Obama doesn’t either. Can you point to where he disrespects his audience? Wow people. Yes Obama has a flimsy record, Rezco tied around him, and the Hopey-Dope but he’s doesn’t DISRESPECT his audience. I’ve been to Clinton and Obama rallies in Texas. They both did great with their audiences. I was impressed.
I felt his telling the audience in TX, “you need to have a book in the house, you cant give your kid cold Popeyes chicken for breakfast” I found that pretty disrespectful.
LOL! It’s the damn truth. You shouldn’t be giving your kids cold Popeye’s chicken for breakfast. That’s bad on the stomach in the morning. All that grease. Nasty.
The point is neither is a racist, and when Barack attacks HIllary by interpreting her as somehow racist (while denying that’s what he means) he opens himself to these comparisons. As a short term tactic it may sway voters to view her unfavorably, but he’s not thinking ahead. He needs to stop it, or these kinds of comparisons will come out and he’ll have little high road left to perch on. He needs to run on his positions and his record, and not on perceptions that he’s being unfairly targeted for something no one in our party cares about, but many in the opposition do or will pretend to do.
He was blasted at being the “Hope” dude. Guess he’s going to try to be the “Attack” dude. Let’s just face it, we are beyond positions now. We are firmly in the Twilight Zone now. And it’s going to get weirder and weirder until the convention (mercifully) puts and end to this Dem nomination process.
This is a lie, it’s quite easy to see what is happening.
For most of us, anyway.
Ah! Since I’m lying with my “Twilight Zone” reference, answer me this:
Why in a campaign season where two “firsts” are running for a nomination, that the supporters of the “firsts” feel the need attack each other over using the beauty of the “firsts” as a weapon?
The reason why I followed this campaign season is that I thought the two “firsts” would conduct an campaign much different than the norm. It was wonderful seeing a white woman and a black man running for a nomination. But I see it has degenerated into standard fare.
Oh well…
What’s ironic is that Obama’s efforts to get AAs riled up against Clinton will hurt him far far more in the long run for entirely non-racial reasons. Namely, the incessant drumbeat of “anti-America” crap (i.e., Michelle Obama’s pride in America) is red meat for the RWNM.
I expect the RWNM will mention this goofy racist pig of a pastor every single day Obama is still a Democratic candidate.
Oh, just another thought: I bet Obama will be so radioactive hereafter that there is no way Clinton could ever afford to have him as a VP candidate now. He held himself to such a high standard knowing all the time this slime was out there for someone to discover. Not only will he be radioactive but just clueless to boot!
some of the material, can be edited together in a devastating way:
Here’s the wife…here’s the preacher etc.
I suppose the same could theoretically be done with Clinton though. There’s plenty of old shit to dig up.
he’s not thinking …mmm there that “Boneheaded” thing again.
I agree.
Why would Obama continue to support this “church”. I’d like to know if he drops any of his taxpayer funded senate salary in the collection plate on Sunday.
I’m also curious about the connection between Obama, and Farrakhan, financially.
Rezko was involved with Elijah Muhammad’s son, and they were prosecuted for one deal, Rezko using Muhammad as a front to obtain minority contracts.
Muhammad also accuses Rezko of stealing property from him, I’ll find the link.
Rezko using Muhammad as a front to obtain minority contracts.
O’Hare International?
From http://www.hanania.com/profiles/Rezko06-08-05.htm:
But controversy soon erupted.
In 1997, Panda Express won the right to open a lucrative concession at O’Hare International Airport under the city’s Minority Set-Aside program which directs large contracts to companies owned by Women, African Americans or Hispanics.
The city awarded a 10-year contract for O’Hare Airport to Crucial Inc. in 1999, which the city believed was owned by an African American, Jabir Herbert Muhammad, the son of the late Elijah Mohammad.
Crucial Inc.’s annual revenues skyrocketed from under $200,000 in each year before opening at O’Hare, to nearly $6 million in 2002, according to recently published reports. Crucial Inc. has earned nearly $16 million in its first four years at the airport.
Last March, Chicago officials charged that Jabir Herbert Muhammad had acted as a front for the real owner, Rezko, who is of Syrian Arab heritage and does not qualify for minority set-asides.
According to Mayor Daley, Jabir Muhammad founded Crucial Inc. in 1976. It was certified as a minority business in 1989. Rezko had been involved with the company since 1983, serving as a vice president and general manager. In July 1997, the company’s minority status lapsed but the forms were not renewed.
Although Muhammad said he ran Crucial Inc., city officials said the company was run by Abdelhamid “Al” Chaib, and longtime friend and Rezko business associate.
Rezko later told the Chicago Tribune that he did not do anything wrong and is surprised by all the attention. Daley said the city’s investigation showed that Crucial Inc. should never have received the contract and should be stripped off its minority business certification.
Rezko’s clout grows
Crucial Inc. was also hired as a subcontractor to telephone giant SBC Communications, which received an exclusive deal to provide 1,000 pay phones for Cook County Government.
A spokesman for Stroger said County officials are investigating to determine whether or not Crucial Inc. still meets the county’s minority business criteria. Six of Rezko’s relatives have been placed on the Cook County payroll, according to published reports.
In state government, Rezko’s ties resulted in a prize greater that lucrative financial contracts. At least three of his associates were appointed to influential positions overseeing hiring, contracts and policy.
They include:
Former business partner Jack Lavin, named to Gov. Blagojevich’s cabinet as Director of the Illinois Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity. He served as Rezko’s former CFO. Lavin is an officer of Crucial Inc.
Winnetka Podiatrist Fortunee Massuda appointed by Blagojevich in 2003 to sit on the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board. He is a partner in a real estate venture with Rezko.
Kelly King Dibble, a Rezko business associate, was named by Gov. Blagojevich as executive director of the Illinois Housing Development Authority.
Abdelhamid “Al” Chaib, vice president of Crucial Inc., is the sole owner of the Subway sandwich shops that have secured the rights to operate at seven of the State’s Tollway oases. Chaib also is a director of Rezko Concessions Inc., which is Rezko’s portion of the joint venture with Panda Express, state records show.
Already Rezko has become a target in the upcoming election campaign, Illinois State Treasurer Judy Baar Topinka has alleged that Rezko is a part of a “shadow government” pulling the strings in the Blagojevich administration.
Rezko has a long history of supporting Arab American causes. He made a significant donation to help establish the Ibn Rushd Lectureship in Arabic in 2002 at the University of Chicago. Rezko served as a former Executive Director to the Muhammad Ali Foundation. And, he was named “Entrepreneur of the Decade” by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association. The president and founder of ABPA is a generous and successful Chicago Arab American businessman and political adviser, Talat Othman.
Thanks for the link…Minority contract abuse it a common theme ..And how the “wild guess” it was at the airport before you returned with this link…
According to Mayor Daley, Jabir Muhammad founded Crucial Inc. in 1976.
I had only gone back to when BO graduated from “my school is better than your school” Harvard. What a ferris wheel…
Wilentz again on the fine art of victimology. Birkenstock liberals, pay attention. This is how its done.
http://tinyurl.com/2nrrjl
Reading Orlando Patterson’s op-ed in the New York Times, “The Red Phone in Black and White,” is a depressing experience. Not only does the piece scurrilously accuse Hillary Clinton’s campaign of cutting an ad that borrows from the filmmaker D.W. Griffith’s glorification of the Ku Klux Klan. Not only is this attack based on a Clinton advertisement about national security, not domestic policy (let alone race), that required a singularly tortured and biased “close reading” by Patterson to reach its conclusions. What is truly depressing is that the essay fits what has become a troubling and familiar pattern by the Obama campaign and its fervent supporters to inject racial politics on the eve of yet another Democratic primary in a Southern state, in this case Mississippi, where African-American voters are expected to vote in large numbers.
You sound like the republican version of Farrakhan.
Liberals arent the problem, stop laying blame, please, in a sideways attempt to bolster the old guy republican game.
But thanks for the insight.
This group is the same as kos, just as frightened, but a little slower.
Sorry, but you’re just as bad, every post I’ve read from you has blamed liberals, and that simply isn’t the case, you might as well be Iran blaming the great Satan, or white devils, or butt sucking demons with buns of steel who can’t write…
Thras,
Do you expect any of us to believe you aren’t a GOP flamethrower?
You know if Hillary or any other white Democrat belonged to a church like that, their career would be dead.
Hell even most GOPers couldn’t survive politically if they had associations that Obama has.
But Obama’s white upper class supporters ignore the blatant racism that the good reverend Wright promotes not to mention his friendship with the uber bigot and anti-semite Farrahkhan.
There is something really wrong with the activist class of the Democratic party when they throw their support behind a crass opportunist and race baiter like Obama despite baggage that would destroy any other politician.
Funny, you’re accusing Obama, and the radical black church, of being Cheney republicans, yet here we are, as Americans, making excuses for Cheney, while someone else excoriates liberals, and AA’s.
No thanks.
Do you understand what you’re doing?
Problem comprehending Simon?
Well I said nothing about Cheney nor made excuses for him and his ilk nor compared this loathsome bunch to the fools backing Obama.
Thats your doing.
Like I said Obama is getting a free pass because of political correctness and a Democratic activist class is composed of well-heeled ideologically driven bozos who hate Hillary so much, they decided to back someone who is unpalatable to much of the electorate in a bid destroy her presidential run.
The sad thing is, it will probably work and we’ll be stuck with McCain.
Right.
You dont understand what I said.
But you wanted to play.
simon, I think your head is overheated. take a break and have a cool one.
No thanks.
I’m having a good day, actually.
Nice try, though, ad hominem attack when IQ fails.
Old trick, and god, you’re boring.
Again, though, thanks for the insight.
And I don’t drink.
Hell even most GOPers couldn’t survive politically if they had associations that Obama has.
Well, except McCaca. He’s got TWO batshit crazy religious associates! First Hagee, and now this:
http://www.motherjones.com/washington_dispatch/2008/03/john-mccain-rod-parsley-spiritual-guide.html
The wingnuts will actually like McCaca better for this, unfortunately.
So Michelle O’s comment that for the first time in her adult life she’s proud of her country, wasn’t a misunderstood gaffe. It’s a message she’s been hearing every Sunday.
Makes more sense now.
It occurs to me that the projection of “guilty of being white” (or any color) by Obama is a manisfestation of the guilt peached at his “chruch”.
To paraphrase the Late great Govenor Anne Richardson..
“Poor Obama and Michelle, they can’t help it…they were raised with a silver spoon…( of religious animosity) in their mouths.”
It’s time to stick a fork in Barack. He’s cooked….
Did I miss the discussion on this blog of the views of Pastor Hagee?
No discussion. They are saving Hagee for the GE. Can’t throw all your eggs in one basket!
Hey, if you going to take someone’s name, please spell it right; Hussein not Hussien. Or, perhaps you were trying for Hessian?
Your right! Always had problems with my “i” before “e” except after “c”.
Can everyone forgive me?
Sen. McCain is the presumptive GOP nominee. We have an active Democratic party race, and it is critical to vet Obama. You can’t tell me that Obama doesn’t agree with his pastor’s views of America…. especially since he is a long-time congregant who was married by Wright and had both his daughters baptized by Wright.
Such anti-American views will be used by the GOP constantly should Obama be the nominee. Those anti-American views could, all on their own, be the reason John McCain becomes president. (There’s also Obama’s light record, his flip-flops on Iraq, his lack of experience with CofC and military issues, and much more. Then there’s his cruel disregard for the thousands in his own state senate district who suffered as a direct result of Obama’s political fixer Tony Rezko — about which Taters wrote here last night, poignantly, in “The Deal Breaker” article (listed in the right margin).
Susan,
He said he didn’t agree. Hasn’t your minster ever said things that you don’t agree with?
I’ve said from the beginning (three months ago?)that the Clinton tactics will be the reason McCain will be the president.
I’ve seen nothing to change my mind.
He said he didn’t agree. Hasn’t your minster ever said things that you don’t agree with?
Obama has said that he tried many churches before he found a home at Trinity United. And once he found his home he sat and listened to Wright’s vile hatred for 20 years. Twenty years of that constitutes a bit more than a pastor saying a few things with which Obama might not have agreed. Twenty years without walking out on that sort of hatred might just be viewed by some objective persons as evidence of support for the Reverends blatantly racist commentary, don’t ya think, Cee?
Notice CEE did not answer one of Susan’s concerns, turning the issue to a positive for Obama, ie, ” he denounced.”
Flat out, it’s a technique to deflect the truth of the charges, and obfuscate Susan’s points.
Kinda feels like you’re speaking with your senile old Dad, doesn’t it?
Thank you. There’s nothing about Obama that our dear Cee won’t rationalize.
Fed up,
I didn’t even bother to watch the video because I give elderly people a pass.
I also give prisoners of war a pass so remember that in the GE.
Remember Marge Schott? Rev. Billy Grahm?
Both said very offensive things.
They all were shaped by THE PAST!
I haven’t seen any hate from Obama so don’t even try to say that his minister influenced him in that way.
And don’t say that Obama is a racist. That is the dumbest thing I’ve heard this year.
Have you forgotten that his mother is white and he was raised by his white grandparents?
Whew!
Just as Cee here Obama supporters continue to believe and vote for him with their eyes wide shut …
Cee, it is very troubling that you see nothing wrong with Jeremiah Wright’s comments for the last 20 years. That alone says speaks volumes.
You write :
What is this supposed to mean? This is either disingenuous at best… :
(1) Jeremiah Wright wasn’t born elderly and 20 years ago he was 40ish?
(2) With your argument you would give Pol Plot a pass as well…. Jeez….
What a lame excuse to justify Obama ’s tolerance of hate speech. You have to be one to stomach that….
Maybe the tea and apple pie were better at Trinity. I know that would sway me.
You heard it here first; if Sen. Obama is the nominee and loses to Sen. McCain it will be all Hillary’s fault. And Dean’s. And old people’s. And the MSM’s. And The Establishment’s. And racists’. And ours for not being the change we seek. And theirs for fearing change. And the sloths. And the fruitbats.
And every living thing under the sun but Sen. Obama and those connected to him.
He won’t have failed. We’ll all have failed him. Just like those folks in Chicago failed the goverment subsidized housing they were offered.
That was priceless! What a perfect summation of the Obama-osophy!
Oh my gosh! That WAS priceless. Especially this part:
You heard it here first; if Sen. Clinton is the nominee and loses to Sen. McCain it will be all Barack’s fault. And Dean’s. And old people’s. And the MSM’s. And The Establishment’s. And sexists’. And ours for not being the REAL change we seek. And theirs for fearing REAL change. And the sloths. And the fruitbats.
And every living thing under the sun but Sen. Clinton and those connected to him.
PRICELESS!!!
I’ve seen nothing to change my mind
One can not “change” something that is closed
Indy,
On this, and at this point, yeah.
Closed like a safe.
Hillary is going down and taking the democratic party down with her.
When I was married, my ex-husband wanted to try a different church. During the sermon, the preacher started in going on about how the Jews deserved the Holocaust. I took my three children and walked out halfway through the sermon. I made my husband walk home. My husband complained that I embarassed him, and I told my husband that I would not listen to that crap, and my children were not going to be associated with people like that. We never set foot in that church again.
I am not some kind of heroine. This is how you are supposed to react to hate. My Mom taught me that.
Obama did not walk out on his preachers sermon. He kept going back and listening to this preacher for 20 years and still would be if th