g*d damn, america, obama lied!
By American Girl in Italy on March 17, 2008 at 2:06 PM in Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, MSNBC, Media, NAFTA, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.
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I don’t know if you have seen all the hoopla this weekend regarding Reverend Wright, and Obama rejecting him, since most media outlets ignored it, or provided minimal coverage. But, it was a doozy.
The sermons of Wright, Obama’s spiritual mentor, the man he credits with the Audacity of Hope, the man who married Obama and Michelle, and the man that baptized their daughters, have finally found their way to the media. (if you read my blog, you will know that i blogged about this before, and was worried that something like this was lurking there, waiting to explode until Obama was the nominee. Luckily this happened now. i do not believe he stands a chance to win the election in November.)
I thought I would take a moment and just comment on a few of Wrights outrageous statements.
1. “Jesus was a black man, killed by white Italians.”
First of all, Jesus was Jewish. I do not think that Jews consider themselves black. Now, I believe that you can envision Jesus in whatever image you relate to. If, for example, Rosie O’Donnell wants to envision Jesus as Nathan Lane in drag, who cares (she doesn’t, I am just saying, who cares). If African Americans want to envision Jesus as a black man, go for it. Personally, I would like to envision God being like Audrey Hepburn in the movie Always. If God does exist, I always thought God would be a woman, since God gave birth to our existence, and God gave women the gift of giving life. But, then I think, no, God must be a man, because we also get cramps. But, I digress. What is not ok with me, is calling Jesus black, only so that you can say he was killed by white Italian men, which is what Wright preaches.
Italian Ponzio Pilato, ordered the execution, at the urging of the Jewish high priest Caiaphus and his council, who brought Jesus before Pilato.
2. “Obama is a black man, grown up in a country owned by rich white men. Hillary ain’t never been called a nigger. Hillary ain’t ever had to work twice as hard to get anything done.”
No, she has never been called that, as far as I know. But, she has however, by Obama supporters, been called Billary, Shillary, whore, war monger, baby killer, murderer, fat ass, bitch and c*nt, to name a few. Not sure if Wright knows this, but to women, whore, fat ass and c*nt are right up there with nigger.
And for him to say that women have never had to work harder to achieve anything, it shows he does not live in the real world. I am not even going to get into this issue, because we all know it is true. It is his ignorance.
3. “Now, Hillary’s married to Bill. Bill thinks he’s been good to us, no he ain’t. Bill’s been doing to us like he did to Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty.” (making sexual gyration moves - ok, gross! in church?) “God wants us to god bless America, no, no, no, God damn America!”
Wright talks about the 3 strikes-you’re out law, and the size of prisons and the number of black men in prison. Does he really think that Bill Clinton’s goal was to just throw black men in jail?
I don’t know if you remember, but I remember in the 90’s men and women in poor neighborhoods, and in black neighborhoods, and in inner-cities were pleading with the government to cleanup the crack problems. People were creating their own vigilant groups, to patrol the neighborhoods, and to drive out the crack problems. We had babies being born addicted to crack, and with AIDS. We had meth labs blowing up in neighborhoods. We had traffic from people coming to buy drugs from the dealers. We had dealers selling crack to kids. Decent neighborhoods were being turned upside down because of crack, and the communities were asking for help.
I believe that President Clinton was trying to do something to provide a safer place for kids to grow up, and remove the drug problems from those neighborhoods. Yes, we have learned over the years, that the ratio of crack offenses to cocaine offenses are disproportionate, and crack tends to be a black problem, and cocaine a white problem. But the problem was not white people building cocaine dens in white neighborhoods. I think the government needs to re-evaluate the laws that were established, but I do not agree that President Clinton created those laws to screw over black people. I believe he was taking action to try and help.
4. On Sunday, September 16, 2001, just FIVE days after 9/11, Wright said this: “We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye….We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.”
He said this to a full congregation, standing on their feet, cheering and clapping and yelling. He said this FIVE days after we were attacked on 9/11. Now, we did bomb to end the second world war, which can be argued, saved lives in the long run. We also bombed them because we were attacked at Pearl Harbor, and brought into that war. And I do believe that we *batted an eye*.
But here is my biggest issue with what he said. This was FIVE days after 9/11. This was the first Sunday after we were attacked. We still had HUNDREDS of people missing, unaccounted for, buried in the rubble of those towers. We were a country in SHOCK, in MOURNING, in DISBELIEF, in TEARS. The fires were still burning at ground zero. Firemen were still buried alive five days after 9/11. Most churches around the country were organizing blood drives, clothes drives, and donation drives. Millions of people flocked to their churches that Sunday seeking solace. Seeking support, and guidance, security.
And what was Wright preaching? That we got what we deserved, and how dare we act indignant? Are you kidding me? Clapping and cheering FIVE days after 9/11, because we got what we deserved?
5. The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment - “They injected black men with syphilis.”
Now, while this was a horrible incident, one that President Clinton did apologize to the 8 remaining survivors, the government did not inject black men with syphilis.
“For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated for “bad blood,”1 their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis at all. The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis—which can include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. “As I see it,” one of the doctors involved explained, “we have no further interest in these patients until they die.”
It was a travesty, but I do not believe that Wright lying to his congregation, and spreading more hate is appropriate for a preacher. I also do not believe that turning your congregation against its country is very unifying.
Other comments by Wright:
“US of KKK A.”
“The government lied about the HIV virus, the government created this, to infect the black man.”
“Black men turning on Black men, that is turning on the wrong enemy.”
Now, there are many more things Wright said that I could discuss, but frankly, I think his words speak for themselves.
But the thing that REALLY gets me, is that Obama sat on every network station Friday night, and LIED to us.
Obama said that he never heard these comments. He said he never heard them sitting in the church, or heard them elsewhere. He said, had he known about these, he would have left the church. He said if he knew about the tenor of those sermons, he would have left. He said this Friday.
Obama then goes on to say that he did know about one statement, and that is why he tried to distance himself when he announced his candidacy. Then on another interview, he said he knew about one or two comments. This is why he un-invited Wright to speak at his announcement of his candidacy. Obama told Wright that he “can be rough sometimes during his sermons, so it is best that he not come”. Wright did, however, meet with Obama privately beforehand, and they prayed together.
Here is an article written last year, by a reporter who was in that church, with Obama, and Obama heard Wright make these types of statements.
And after all that, Obama still appointed Wright to an official post on his campaign!
Obama knew what this man was saying. It is impossible to attend a church for 17 years, and not know what this man was saying. There are numerous articles written about this man over the years. Videos of his sermons have been available online, on his churches web site. Hannity covered this topic a year ago on FOX. Here is an article written in 2004, about Obama and his church, that the theology of Obama’s church is closer to that of Karl Marx, and black nationalism, that to Christianity.
You can watch Obama making statements about his church here, as well as what he knew, and when he knew it. This video is edited for maximum effect, but it does put into perspective the incidents as they occured.
Wright campaigned for Obama in that church. He made these statements about Hillary and Bill during the campaign. And Obama had the gall to act indignant all these months, making charges of racism towards Bill, Hillary and their surrogates and supporters. All the while knowing that Wright was demeaning Hillary and Bill at the pulpit. All the while preaching white hate, separatism, and anti-American sentiment.
All these months, Obama and his supporters were getting their panties in a twist because Bill compared Obama’s victory in SC to Jesse Jackson. They pounced on Hillary for comments made by Ed Rendell. The Obama camp circulated a memo, trying to push the race card on anything they could scrape up, to call the Clintons racist. The Obama camp and the media JUMPED on Clinton for remarks made by Geraldine Ferraro. The Obama camp has attacked her many times.
Keith Olbermann did a *Special Comment* just a day or two before, and ATTACKED Hillary Clinton for the statements made by Geraldine Ferraro. Hillary had already come out a few times and said she did not agree with the comments. What did Olbermann want, a public flogging? Geraldine was not speaking on behalf of the campaign. She was at a paid speaking event of hers. She was answering a question, asked by a reporter from a small newspaper. She was exercising her right to free speech…? She did not say anything that wasn’t truthful. She is a senior member in the democratic party, a DC insider, and I think perhaps she knows better then Keith Olbermann what the heck is going on in DC. And if Olbermann did not have his head so far up Obama’s ass, he would know that also.
The Obama camp did not take Hillary Clinton at her own word, and they punished her and held her accountable for comments made by her surrogates or supporters. They held her ACCOUNTABLE. And the media covered it. The media covered it extensively. Every little race bait that the Obama camp put out, the media covered it.
And ALL this time, Obama was attending the 11am services at his church, listening to this man, Reverend Wright, spew his anti-American, anti-white, separatist, bigoted views. And then, he appeared on TV Friday, and lied, over and over again.
And, please do not comment and say that what Wright said was true. If those comments are ok, with you, whatever. They are not ok with me. And as Obama said Friday, if you believe him, they are not ok with him.
“Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it’s on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.
The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. But because Rev. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church.
Let me repeat what I’ve said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country.
With Rev. Wright’s retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good. And while Rev. Wright’s statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States.”
So, according to Obama, he did hear about these comments at the beginning of his campaign. But he still continued as a member of that church, he still prayed with Wright, and he still placed Wright on his campaign. He did not reject Wrights comments until Friday, when the media got a hold of the tapes. He did not reject Wright’s comments until he had to, politically. He does not reject these comments, or he would have done so years ago. Not just when he was forced to politically. And this is not just some crazy bat shit uncle talk, this is a man he chose, a man that inspired him, and man that he asked to perform his wedding ceremony, and baptise his children. A man that is his spiritual mentor.
And all this time, he condemned the words of Clinton surrogates, and blamed the Clintons, allowing the media to portray the Former First Lady, and NY Senator, the Former President, and the first female Former VP candidate, as racists.
“I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States.”
Why should we Obama? That is a luxury that you did not afford Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton or Former President Bill Clinton.
I see nothing about your judgment that qualifies you to be President of the United States.
I find nothing about your values that qualifies you to be President of the United States.
I see no experience that qualifies you to be President of the United States.
You lied to the American people, Barack Obama. You lied about knowing what this man was preaching. You lied about when and what you knew. And I, like you now claim, vehemently condemn those words. So, I want to know why you sat there for 17 years, and listened to those words?
(You also lied to us about NAFTA/Canada. You lied to us, repeatedly about Rezko, the latest lie you revealed on Friday, about the amount of money Rezko actually raised for you. But that we can save for another day.)
I would like to know, also, Keith Olbermann, where was your outrage towards Wright and Obama last Friday? All I heard in that *interview* was “would you like a pillow, or perhaps a cup of tea?”
You, Sir, are worse then the Falafel that you so despise. You have become that man, even worse. Your bias for Obama has been so apparent these months, that you made a colossal ass of yourself in your special comment to Hillary, and your interview of Obama Friday. Shame on You, Sir, indeed.
I don’t know what kind of Change Obama is promising to bring to the White House. The only thing I see as a change, if he were to be elected to the highest office in America, is that we would have elected a President who seems to not have pride in his country. And that, my fellow Americans, is not who I want sitting in the Oval Office.
I, without hesitation, do not doubt the patriotism or the pride shared by Hillary Clinton, or John McCain, for their country.
And now, to try to deflect the negative attention that Obama is getting surrounding Wright, and Rezko, and his earmarks, and NAFTA, he has promised to launch a full assault on Hllary Clinton. He has even hinted this weekend that the cause of this racial divisiveness is Hillary’s fault.
Sorry, but I think you made your own mess here, Obama.


I hope to get my full dose of SchadenFreude before the convention. I don’t see how Obama can survive to be the nominee now.
By the way, it is his inexperience and his pumped-up resume which are the main reasons I consider him totally unqualified to be President.
>>> If God does exist, I always thought God would be a woman
Anyone with a Y chromosome and forty laps around the Sun suspects this, somewhere in his laizard-brain. I believe this firmly. My basic exclamation at Unexpected Good Fortune (finding a parking space close to the strip club; blowing a .05 on the Breathlayzer; NOT getting audited by the IRS; locating my car keys in the dark) is:
“There IS a God! And She’s not pissed at me today!!”
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/03/obama_wait_until_tuesday_speec.html
Update on the wright issue, today, the 17th of March.
Obama should be enlightening us all, tomorrow, while he gets his story straight, today…
Bravo!
Some call Senator Obama “The One”.
Some call Senator Obama “The Manchurian Candidate”.
Some call Senator Obama “The Anti-Christ”.
Some call Senator Obama “Savior”.
I have no idea what to call him, because I have no idea who he really is.
I guess “Liar” is as good as anything.
Haha! I will just second this comment. It’s a good one.
Ditto - Me also
Bravo!
It’s about time Obama started to confront his own dealings. For the talk of the media getting ‘tougher’ on him, they are still not pressuring for the answers we need if we are going to have a a viable nominee.
Girl in Italy..
That was obviously alot of Work…Nice Job…and thanks for putting it out on the Internet..
Tuskegee was worthy of Mengle, and the doctors should have been executed, IMO.
It was Hitlerian in it’s scope.
Did you miss it?
It was an abomination. a tragedy. repugnant.
Sara, I suppose you’re aware that the Italian vote in the Democrats Abroad Primary went to Obama. Actually, I was a little surprised to hear it. I live in Italy and at least in my region, the Italian-Americans, as well as the Italians support Hillary.
yes, i heard that. :O(
I do think that Obama lied about not knowing about the pastor’s comments and that is almost as offensive to me as the comments themselves. I would have had much more respect for him if he told the truth, whatever it is. I think he made a huge mistake here.
P.S. You are so right about Keith Olbermann, it was ludicrous that on Monday he was railing about the subject and then on Friday he took it easy on Obama. I heard he was home sick on Friday and came in just for the Obama interview; I wonder if he’ll cover it more tonight (I doubt it).
I can’t bear to watch his show, but I am predicting that tonight he’s going to mock the blogger strike against Daily Kos. It’s sooo his kind of snarky thing to do.
SUSAN..
They just talked about the Blogger strike on MSNBC..they had Lane Hudson from Huffington post on…and They Put up a Quote from ALEGERE about KOS..its getting BIG..
Saw it to.. WORDS MATTER…
ALEGERE Encore please!
“I wonder if he’ll cover it more tonight (I doubt it).”
I won’t be watching KO tonight (ir any night ever again) to find out I am so disgusted at that show. He has stooped so low. But I know I will find out on some blog or other what was said just so I can keep up with the “news.”
That NewsMax story has been debunked. Obama was not there but traveling on the day in question. I’m all for using information to support a position but in this case, it doesn’t hold up.
Bill Kristol, who used this information in his NYTimes editorial, has updated to acknowledge the error:
The reporter STANDS BY HIS WORDS! That has been up dated!
Here is the clarification offered by NewsMax:
Here’s the problem:
Davis doesn’t even say in the clarification which day during the month of July Obama was there. NewsMax is a conservative news outlet with absolutely ZERO credibility (Scaife was an early investor) and it has been caught with bogus stories before.
I think the relevant sentence in this post should be edited to read “Here is an article that alleges…” because the credibility of the story is questionable.
I wouldn’t trust the source. There were rumors yesterday that this would break today. Perhaps they were thinking we would take the bait and go after Obama on it making us look like smear artists.
I firmly believe that Obama attended several sermons where his “uncle” spewed his racist anti-American rants. But until this can be proven it would be unwise to suggest something we cannot demonstrate to be true.
Ragazza americana in Italia,
Thanks for a well written and thoughtful artical. After reading your artical and reading this far my eye caught Fleaflickers’ comment about “trusting the source” and…
s_pew_ed , funny thing, words;
The Reverend;
supported state terrorism;
closer to that of Karl Marx, and black nationalism, than to Christianity
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I am wondering what the military services members of our society think about all this.
Simply put, Michelle Obama, at an audience in Pennsylvania, asked us to “close our eyes and imagine Barrack Obama as president”. So I closed my eyes and what I heard was the Rev. Wright “speaking”. Similar cadence and all.
If Senator Obama is elected to be their commander-in-chief, his “spiritual mentor”, of 20 years, has cast a shadow long on their sacrifice. That, my friends, is NOT a good place to start from, as president.
It recalls what happened to JFK, when after assuming the office on the tail of the planning for the Pay of Pigs. (speaking of lipstick) This effort had been gaining in momentum in the last months of the Eisenhower Administration, and several VIPs in the military brass where none to pleased when JFK vacillated on continuing this effort, in effect going around the president .
Now it is one thing to show stupid bravado, with Obama saying he would continue Bush’s policy of firing missiles in to Pakistan, but it quiet another when your minister of two decades, “s_pew_es in the pews” and Senator Obama thinks one cold shower at our expense, will wash away the kool-aid stain. Many service members, past and present, are being tugged at between one’s oath to a country and ones cultural allegiance. I say ‘past’ because The Reverand Wright was a former Marine, yet I don’t hear speak him words like Semper Fidelis from his lips…And Obama? He lied.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/03/breaking-news-1.html
Bluegirl - The writer of that piece still stands by his story. See his comment at 3:45 am.
Huff Po has a story that Obama was in chicago that morning.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/17/obama-was-in-chicago-the-_n_91876.html
I tend to believe a writer that wrpte that piece a year ago, and not the Obama camp, that now claims Obama was not there. Until they prove otherwise, I am going with the guy who wrote a year ago that Obama was there.
Saw the comment and it’s a weak rebuttal by Davis & NewsMax. Similarly, Sam Stein is not one of HuffPo’s strongest reporters. He was a little too eager to push the story that John Edwards was having an affair.
Look, I’m not an Obama supporter but I’m not about to rely on NewsMax as a source of information.
This is all starting to smack of desperation nail Obama. All I’m saying is let’s be a little more discerning in the evidence we choose to use.
personally, i think it is irrelevant. obama knew what this man was preaching, or else, as someone said, he is a giant dullard. haha
i still believe the story. not sure why i would trust the obama camp at this point. but if it is proved that obama were elsewhere, i will edit the post.
It is very possible that the reporter did indeed witness Obama there but got the date wrong. Thus the Obama campaign can deny the claim and “hope” to put this to rest. I think there is probably a lot of validity to the guys story that he saw Obama at church where these statements were made. Just not on the date he recalls.
Not exactly debunked — yet — but it’s not worth quoting, you’re right about that.
It’s interesting, though, that the Wall Street Journal ran it. I don’t know if they have fact checkers but would assume so. Hope so.
HOWEVER: That just has to do with one date. We must keep in mind that Obama has refused to provide his calendar / his schedule that would have the dates he did attend church services. And that he gave that church $22,500 in 2006 and tens of thousands in previous years … and so on.
What would be really useful is the Secret Service records. If the Secret Service were there, it would have been recorded. I would accept that as an independent source to confirm Obama’s whereabouts during that month.
The WSJ has a very conservative editorial page. From the Columbia Journalism Review, July/August 1996:
NewsMax sounds very much like it’s written in the same vein.
The WSJ’s news reporting is top notch but I don’t bother even reading the editorial page, where Kessler’s article ran.
I agree that secret Service records are the soure we need but I don’t know if those are available for public view. Perhaps FOIA would allow them to be viewed but it might take like forever to get the evidence and by then it might be too late.
The more I think about it the more I think
July 22 or any specific date is a distraction, it is playing his game that
“I was not there when the comments displayed in these particluar videos at the center of the story were made “ So what?
That doesn’t mean he didn’t know. This is what he wants: the media and the people not seeing the forest for the trees.
Just another aside. Obama first met and became involved with the Rev Wright in 1985. That is almost 23 years ago. I think Wright may have been instrumental in encouraging Obama to go to law school…hence the mentor thing. Don’t know this for a fact but just deducing this from the years and time frame. Remember, Obama did that organizer thing for three years in Chicago. Did you realize that the organizer job was with the churches? This fact seems to be very much under reported. People assume a community organizer has something to do with labor organizing or political organizing. Not saying these may have been in conjunction with Obama’s organizing…hired by the churches, but the chuch aspect has been pretty well invisible. What church I don’t know. There is just so much about Obama that we don’t know. He wrote his own story so the media would just use his version instead of examining his record and experience. He is just too deceptive for me.
Funny how hard it is to prove this to the MSM. They didn’t cover it like they should have now they are still letting us down by trying to sweep it under the rug. I have had to change to Fox News just to get coverage.
Sad that, I had a high school teacher tell me he wanted to show a youtube clip from foxnoise as an example of propaganda, as it compared Obama’s Oratory skills with Hitlers’.
I think is repugnant, but that said, from an impartial “musical” perspective, the call and response and cadence of speech and audience response, if one closes their eyes and listens, there are similarities.
The content of the speech is not directly material to the audio psychology involved and the effect it has.
I said this to the teacher, not realizing he was an Obama supporter, it dawned me after I proceeded to mention aspects of Obama’s past I disagreed with and his lack of qualifications, his face started to scrunch up and get frowny and he looked uncomfortable. I “hope” my kids passes his class (oops)
Great job Girl in Italy!
Anyone hear the announcement? OBama stated to the people at a rally in PA today: To prove I am who I claim to be, I am going to walk over the water tonight outside 3 Rivers Statium!
Unfortunatley, he forgot to turn his mike off when asking an aide: it is frozen over still isn’t it?
Bet this will all be Hillary’s fault again!
it is frozen over still isn’t it?
So is hell, surely he will be skating on thin ice if he does it!
The thing that I cannot get over is Obama’s claim that he attended that church with that pastor for about twenty years and he did NOT know any of this stuff. That is the most incredibly arrogant thing to say. It is like a five year old who will look you in the eye and say he does not know who spilled his milk. I just don’t think our country can survive another GWB and that is what Obama seems to be.
Linda, it is possible, just like Obama didn’t know about:
His senior advisor talking to Canadian officials about Nafta!
Rezko being in trouble financially!
Rezko under investigation!
Rezko ties to Auchi!
Ayers being a terroist!
His SC people circulating memo’s on racism towards Clinton’s!
His bundler Crown being the major shareholder in Maytag!
His States nuclear power plant having a leak!
His not knowing the Red button is Nay, the Yellow Button is Present and the Green button is Yay!
His funder Rezko not providing heat to tenants in Chicago in the winter of ‘98!
His funder Rezko defaulting on $10’s of millions of government loans!
His letters to Government officials would be to the benefit of his friends Rezko and Davis!
His friend Rezko controlling State appointments wouldn’t give Obama’s wife a nice new high paying job at the U of Chicago hospital!
His wife as a director of a major Walmart supplier was closing down factories in Colorado and putting hundreds of Hispanics out of work!
His voting to give Davis $1 million while sitting on the Woods Fund committee was inappropriate!
and plenty more of the not knowing’s that I am sure are out there that just don’t come to mind right now!
Well done Mel.
I wonder if “not knowing” is the same as “I don’t recall” or “Tony told me.”
Woo Hoo, you go (American) Girl (in Italy)! I’m with you! I laughed out loud when you listed the names that Hillary’s been called!
I just read on the Hillarysvoice Yahoo group that Oprah might have (or does) attend the Trinity Church as well? Does anyone know anything else about it?
She did, but distanced herself years ago, due to his controversial nature.
What bothers me is that some are saying this is a non-issue. It is an issue. It goes right to the heart of thing. Obamanon say s he is for hope and unity….when you spend 20 years listening to the crap that minister spins….there is no way you are for unity.
Wright claims that 26 years ago, grassroots people made up and wrote the Black Value System. Maybe they did but I rather enjoyed what Bill Cosby said in 1984 when he was villified for airing black people’s dirty laundry in public. He said stop blaming them blame yourselves for not parenting. Now that man was on the money. Look up Bill Cosby and speech. Great speech!
Actually Oprah did attend that church but distanced herself from it quite some time ago. She was insulted by the church for not sticking to something or other!
I hope the MSM doesn’t let BO get away with accusing some people of “racially divisive tactics” and then refusing to point fingers. Sooo magnanamous and above the fray. But who else would he be accusing of any kind of “tactics” at all other than his opponent. They should make him say exactly who he’s accusing of racism and what he’s basing that on.
I hope the MSM doesn’t let BO get away with accusing some people of “racially divisive tactics” and then refusing to point fingers.
Hard to do when you are complicit in the act.
The Obamazoids always quibble and try to change the subject. “Obama was not there in church on that particular day to hear that particular sermon. So that makes everything ok.” But the fact is, Obama attended the church for 20 years, and he is not aware of Rev. Wright’s beliefs?
Thanks to Girl in Italy for bringing up Rev. Wright’s contention that because Hillary has never been called a nigger Obama is the superior candidate for president. Hillary has been called many other demeaning names. This I believe has enraged not only me but many other women.
Hillary was not called these names by some abstract person at some unknown time in the past. Obamazoids are posting hateful comments on Obamington Post right at this very moment, calling Hillary a bitch, cunt, whore, etc. This has been going on there for weeks. Also they are saying what a great guy Rev. Wright is.
Okay, I’m not going to Huffingtonpost ever again…I just went over there to check out the comments you were talking about and Arianna might as well rename her site IHateHillary.com. It’s so vile, I feel nauseous. They seem to be making light of Rev. Wright’s importance, in one blog, inferring that it’s reverse racism (”When my White Republican father said the same things, he was invited to the White House”) and attacking Hillary with a viciousness I’ve never seen. They must be feeling desperate and afraid, or else why would you attack your opponent so violently when YOU ARE IN THE LEAD?
i know how you feel. i get so angry and ill sometimes there. i tough it out, just to make sure there are some of us over there, fighting for Hillary! It is so bias it is disgusting!
today i can’t find the wright story on msnbc.com at all. and it is hard to find now on huffpo.
Please read this as a response to what Wright said about Hillary:
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/17/103354/189
Whether he likes it or not, Obama is now defined as the anti-American god-candidate, and what Hillary does or does not do in response is irrelevant — the repubs will burn these images into the brain of every American for the next seven months, like it or not.
I heard Mike Huckabee preach in Texarkana, Arkansas once in the 1980s. I walked out the minute he started spouting RNC talking points from the pulpit. Obama couldn’t have done the same?
Oh shit, Donna Brazile is defending Wright’s comments on CNN, I’ve never seen her so uptight. Wow. This is crazy. The repug, Terry Jeffrey, sounds more reasonable. Thanks Obama, you’re sure the uniter. Well at least they’re arguing now and not November.
Haven’t you found this to be the case for about 6 to 8 weeks? That is, the Republicans make more sense and sound saner and more concerned about our country. I watched McCain on Fox yesterday and he was very impressive. He made some very compelling arguments about bi-partisanship, global warming, the war, etc. I would never have guessed that in this election the Republicans would be acting like adults while democrats sound like spoiled, petulent, vindictive children. The only person in the whole damned party who sounds like an adult is Hillary. Obama and his minions appear to have lost all rational standing. Right now, I am leaning towards voting for McCain regardless of who the dem nominee is and I’ve been a diehard Clinton fan for many months.
I just don’t think Hillary is a)going to get the nomination, b) will get ANY support from fellow dems if she gets the nomination, and c) if she wins the general her own party is going to try to torpedo her because d) the democratic party sucks smelly, green, nasty _________. You get the point. I’ve been thinking for quite sometime that the republican party absolutely had to go, but now with the Obama fiasco I am quite sure that the democratic party has to go as well. Both parties are corrupt to the bone. I don’t even think Dean, Brazille and the other idiots are trying to hide it. They truely don’t care about their stated agenda or the people of this country.
A shame I missed her. Likely this will be coming to a youtube near you very soon.
Wow, this is an impressive post! Incredible work. Thank you `American Girl in Italy’ !!
thank you! :O)
Yes! Thanks for posting this. Sounds like you and I are on the same page…especially regarding KO. I sent him this letter in January. Guess I hit a nerve because I received a hand-written envelope from 30 Rockefeller Plaza with a response in it by yours truly.
Here’s what I said in the letter:
Dear Mr. Olbermann,
I write this letter with a heavy heart. For years I have turned to you for fair and unbiased reporting. In a perilous time, you have given many of us the strength and the will to stand up and fight for what we hold dear: our democracy. I never thought for a moment that I could be so disappointed in a man that I believed to be authentic in both character and leadership. What has changed since your eloquent delivery of your most recent Special Comment, Mr. Olbermann? How have you become what you so passionately warn against? Truth. Honor. Integrity. That’s your mantra chant, isn’t it?
I watched on the evening of the Iowa caucus and felt as though I was living an episode of the Twilight Zone. Propaganda at its finest. Viewers were told that Clinton and Obama were in a tight race for first place over and over again…ad nauseum. Then, as though these words were never reported you, yourself informed YOUR viewers that NBC had received the first “HARD NUMBERS” in Iowa which showed Edwards as the clear leader. Moments later, you “reported” that Clinton and Obama were in a tight race for first place. Forgive my confusion, Mr. Olbermann. Did I miss something or has it been in front of me in plain sight for years?
Surely, I must have been mistaken. Not Keith. No way. Sadly, my deepest fears were realized this evening. You see, Mr. Olbermann, somewhere between your last Special Comment and the Iowa Caucus you decided to become an unprincipled, bloviating, theater of PROJECTION. See for yourself. Watch the tapes if you dare. Perhaps you might even surprise yourself. Or, maybe not.
You have an obligation, sir. You are obligated as a member of the fourth estate to REPORT, not PROJECT, the news. Under any circumstances. Period. Surely, you are aware of this awesome responsibility. I don’t expect anything more than honesty. I don’t expect you to report a story that isn’t there. What I DO EXPECT from you is journalistic integrity. In this respect, your recent reporting is sadly lacking.
This is NOT a two candidate race in respect to the Democratic Primaries. How dare you? Two states have spoken. No more. No less. Open primary states. And the other 98% of America? Where do we fit into that glorious, big GE pie in the sky? What about the rest of us “inconsequential” Americans? Don’t we get a vote or is that the really big joke of the century? Please. Clue us in, Mr. Olbermann. Since when did it become YOUR JOB to project how and when this country will elect its next President? Since when did you and GE sock puppet Chris Matthews become judge and jury of our electoral process? Ouch. My head hurts from all of the hypocrisy. What gives or should I even bother asking?
BTW- what makes John Edwards so distasteful? Is it his principled convictions? Is it his strong and passionate belief that we can take our government back one state at a time? Is it his courage? Is it that Edwards is actually a man of his word? What makes the media marginalize him so? It’s not right and you know it. Mock Edwards supporters (Mr. Denton) with every ounce of your being, Mr. Olbermann. Ultimately, it will not matter. Quietly, with little fanfare, authentic Americans are building an army of patriots who will not rest until this country is returned to its rightful owners…the American people. Sound familiar? It should. You’ve been preaching much of the same for years now. Practice it.
Sincerely,
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Seriously, I want to thank you again for this wonderful post. I’ll be clicking on the links that you have provided to us. Hope to read more from you soon!
wow, great letter! what did keith say, in his reply?
“obama! woooooo”
hehe But, really, what did he say?
Oh do tell…what had he to say for himself?
“I don’t know” is a good excuse to avoid being accountable for your action.
It’s a lame excuse that children between 7-10 years old use when got caught doing something inappropriate. Even teenagers know that they can’t get away with that excuse.
Obama need to grow up and take responsibility for his actions. Until then he’s not fit to run for any office. I’ll fire him if he worked for me and keep using this excuse. I’m curious what Donald Trump would think of Obama.
Wright has done it already for Obama…the fact that Wright suggested he distance HIMSELF pretty much proves that Wright knew his talk could be a problem for Obama. Obama, apparently, didn’t have the judgment to know himself…
Obama is also reported to have said that he listend to TAPES of Wright’s sermons when he wasn’t able to attend in person.
All in all, Obama is not off the hook on this, at least for me. The Democratic poobahs must have a death wish to stick with this inexperienced, divisive opportunitst.
Inexperienced, divisive OPPORTUNIST! Spot on!
When this election is behind us the good people of Illinois should try to figure out a way to get this nitwit recalled or impeached. He certainly hasn’t done much of anything in regards to representing the people of his state. Obama is for Obama and that just doesn’t work if you are a US Senator and are expected to, at the very least, show up and vote. This cracker doesn’t even do the basics. Yet, he wants to be President. How ridiculous is that?
I want to add this tidbit. Back when Phil Graham was still a democrat I actually voted for him. I don’t remember what happened when he switched parties but we had a special election and I voted against him in that one. The point is that Phil Graham was a very, very good congressman for the state of Texas. He was influential, powerful and got things done. He was also very knowledgeable. Now, I didn’t agree with his point of view very oftent but I’d much rather have someone like Phil Graham who is willing to fight for his constituents, bring jobs to the state, etc. than having a dipstick like Obama. Obama has to be one of the worst Senators of all time.
His constituents in Illinois are very unlikely to get rid of him, although I have read that Obama isn’t pleased with being a Senator and has considered running for Illinois governor if he doesn’t win the White House…
I just came over from Taylor Marsh’s, where I read that Larry was perhaps being censored? Wrong. So, I happened upon this and I do want to make a comment about the contemporary war on world religions.
I personally prefer Vedanta, which embraces all world religions as teachings. Now though, religions seem to be filled with hate, increasingly. All over the world. Why?
I posit this theory. At no time in the history of mankind have we been so closely connected via the internet. Can you imagine what it is to a poor nation where people are starving and dying, to see the real estate ads for houses others live in? For the first time in their lives? Imagine the imbalance the whole world feels. Could that be a cause of this escalating hate?
People may see “greed” and their religion may focus on what looks like the non-charitable aspects of a different religion. Has something been afoot all over the world where churches no longer respect each other at all?
There are so many different religions all over the world what would happen if people could learn by dialoguing with each other instead of constantly trying to stamp each other out.
I feel that what we need are religious summits, kind of like the United Nations, to dialogue this out among the scholars, reverends, pastors, monks and so on. Possibly then there would be less anger.
Given what is happening in Tibet at present we can see just how far this has gone. It’s like an era of the Crusades, only all over the world, at once.
I think that if there wasn’t so much poverty, the world would be in a lot better shape. Yesterday there was an article in the press about the world’s largest megayacht ever currently being constructed. Is it fair that one has such a yacht while others starve?
I think that you would find that at the base of all religions the answer is a resounding NO!
Censorship will do nothing but get us into trouble all over the world. Wouldn’t it be something if the whole world shared its art and culture with itself?
Just my thoughts on Saint Paddy’s. He, Saint Francis and Buddha are a few of my faves.
All cultures in the world have the most beautiful art in terms of their religious icons.
Ah well…I guess I was brought up during the save the world era.
All a 527 needs to do is show footage of the Sunday after 9/11 with the searching for bodies, the smoldering rubble, the people looking for their lost family members, then Reverend Wright making his statements on 9/11 and “God Damn America” then a shot of Obama in that church.
This will be fatal in the GE. I hope he doesn’t make it.
Actually, Obama’s Wright faux pax got a lot of attention on Sunday’s “This Week”.
I love the website in general.
However, the last one by American Girl in Italy smacked of both racism and anti-semitism. The problem is when you respond to a bigot you often sound like a bigot.
In the first entry, American in Italy responds to Wright’s saying Jesus was Black.. She then says in an ironic way that the killing of Jesus was black-on-bl