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	<title>Comments on: TPM&#8217;s Josh Marshall Encourages YouTubes &#8220;to Make Sen. Clinton Look as Foolish as Possible&#8221;</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: American</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/27/tpms-josh-marshall-encourages-youtubes-to-make-sen-clinton-look-as-foolish-as-possible/#comment-175130</link>
		<dc:creator>American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, look at all you silly Hillaroids... can't even refer to Obama without stooping to calling him a pimp and crook. To hell with you fools.

Ask Hillary why she's been getting pimped lately by right wingers like Rupert Murdoch and Scaife? What's THAT all about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, look at all you silly Hillaroids&#8230; can&#8217;t even refer to Obama without stooping to calling him a pimp and crook. To hell with you fools.</p>
<p>Ask Hillary why she&#8217;s been getting pimped lately by right wingers like Rupert Murdoch and Scaife? What&#8217;s THAT all about?</p>
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		<title>By: yttik</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/27/tpms-josh-marshall-encourages-youtubes-to-make-sen-clinton-look-as-foolish-as-possible/#comment-171577</link>
		<dc:creator>yttik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Obama leg humpers"

LOL, that's a keeper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama leg humpers&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL, that&#8217;s a keeper.</p>
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		<title>By: typical white kitty</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/27/tpms-josh-marshall-encourages-youtubes-to-make-sen-clinton-look-as-foolish-as-possible/#comment-171558</link>
		<dc:creator>typical white kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 23:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Baaaab (bob), 

Just because you wish really, really, really hard does not make it so, and your info is not correct.

 "into the Obama camp, including Josh M., Kevin Drum, &lt;strong&gt;Atrios,&lt;/strong&gt; and James Fallows. You might try exploring the why’s of this."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Baaaab (bob), </p>
<p>Just because you wish really, really, really hard does not make it so, and your info is not correct.</p>
<p> &#8220;into the Obama camp, including Josh M., Kevin Drum, <strong>Atrios,</strong> and James Fallows. You might try exploring the why’s of this.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SusanUnPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SusanUnPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG.  That is a huge mistake.  Greg's writings were always worth reading, agree or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG.  That is a huge mistake.  Greg&#8217;s writings were always worth reading, agree or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might interest some of you to know that, until recently, pro-Obama commenters on TPM regularly accused him of excessive pro-Hillary bias.

The fact of the matter is that Hillary's poor performance and divisive campaign style has driven several key bloggers who at one time actually leaned in favor of Hillary, into the Obama camp, including Josh M., Kevin Drum, Atrios, and James Fallows. You might try exploring the why's of this.

You might also ask why it makes sense to bash Josh Marshall for changing his mind about a war you're against, while you defend your candidate for refusing to change her's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might interest some of you to know that, until recently, pro-Obama commenters on TPM regularly accused him of excessive pro-Hillary bias.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that Hillary&#8217;s poor performance and divisive campaign style has driven several key bloggers who at one time actually leaned in favor of Hillary, into the Obama camp, including Josh M., Kevin Drum, Atrios, and James Fallows. You might try exploring the why&#8217;s of this.</p>
<p>You might also ask why it makes sense to bash Josh Marshall for changing his mind about a war you&#8217;re against, while you defend your candidate for refusing to change her&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary&#8217;s Voice &#187; From today&#8217;s Media News mailing 3/28/08</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/27/tpms-josh-marshall-encourages-youtubes-to-make-sen-clinton-look-as-foolish-as-possible/#comment-171207</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary&#8217;s Voice &#187; From today&#8217;s Media News mailing 3/28/08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TPM’s Josh Marshall Encourages YouTubes “to Make Sen. Clinton Look as Foolish as Possible” (by Carlos at No Quarter) “Progressive” blogger Joshua Micah Marshall at Talking Points Memo continues his obsession with the “Hillary Clinton-Bosnia-Sniper” story. On Thursday, as of 21:00 ET, Marshall totally ignores the major foreign policy speech by Sen. Obama for more pressing matters: YouTube mashups! “The Clinton-Bosnia-Sniper story seems to be peaking. And there have been a lot of snippets of video swirling around YouTube with this or that part of the story. But most of them are incomplete or rapid-fire-cut or edited to make Sen. Clinton look as foolish as possible. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, as Jerry Seinfeld used to say. We do those kinds of videos too. But since you’ve probably seen a lot of those, we wanted to go back and put together all the key moments in roughly chronological order — what Sen. Clinton said on different occasions, the key video from the trip, what other eyewitnesses say, what her spokespersons and aides say, etc.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] TPM’s Josh Marshall Encourages YouTubes “to Make Sen. Clinton Look as Foolish as Possible” (by Carlos at No Quarter) “Progressive” blogger Joshua Micah Marshall at Talking Points Memo continues his obsession with the “Hillary Clinton-Bosnia-Sniper” story. On Thursday, as of 21:00 ET, Marshall totally ignores the major foreign policy speech by Sen. Obama for more pressing matters: YouTube mashups! “The Clinton-Bosnia-Sniper story seems to be peaking. And there have been a lot of snippets of video swirling around YouTube with this or that part of the story. But most of them are incomplete or rapid-fire-cut or edited to make Sen. Clinton look as foolish as possible. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, as Jerry Seinfeld used to say. We do those kinds of videos too. But since you’ve probably seen a lot of those, we wanted to go back and put together all the key moments in roughly chronological order — what Sen. Clinton said on different occasions, the key video from the trip, what other eyewitnesses say, what her spokespersons and aides say, etc.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: orionATL</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/27/tpms-josh-marshall-encourages-youtubes-to-make-sen-clinton-look-as-foolish-as-possible/#comment-171176</link>
		<dc:creator>orionATL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sen clinton's many trips abroad are a credit to the kind of person she is and the kind of first lady she was.

can someone tell me,

please,

why the clinton campaign or some of its supporters are not producing youtube videos with footage from some of sen clinton's overseas tours.

youtube is so much faster and more flexible, not to mention cheaper, than advertising.

why isn't the clinton campaign using it,

especially to show her extensive representational  activity abroad from 1992-2000?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sen clinton&#8217;s many trips abroad are a credit to the kind of person she is and the kind of first lady she was.</p>
<p>can someone tell me,</p>
<p>please,</p>
<p>why the clinton campaign or some of its supporters are not producing youtube videos with footage from some of sen clinton&#8217;s overseas tours.</p>
<p>youtube is so much faster and more flexible, not to mention cheaper, than advertising.</p>
<p>why isn&#8217;t the clinton campaign using it,</p>
<p>especially to show her extensive representational  activity abroad from 1992-2000?</p>
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		<title>By: Make Them Accountable / Media</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/03/27/tpms-josh-marshall-encourages-youtubes-to-make-sen-clinton-look-as-foolish-as-possible/#comment-171146</link>
		<dc:creator>Make Them Accountable / Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] TPM’s Josh Marshall Encourages YouTubes “to Make Sen. Clinton Look as Foolish as Possible” (by Carlos at No Quarter) “Progressive” blogger Joshua Micah Marshall at Talking Points Memo continues his obsession with the “Hillary Clinton-Bosnia-Sniper” story. On Thursday, as of 21:00 ET, Marshall totally ignores the major foreign policy speech by Sen. Obama for more pressing matters: YouTube mashups! “The Clinton-Bosnia-Sniper story seems to be peaking. And there have been a lot of snippets of video swirling around YouTube with this or that part of the story. But most of them are incomplete or rapid-fire-cut or edited to make Sen. Clinton look as foolish as possible. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, as Jerry Seinfeld used to say. We do those kinds of videos too. But since you’ve probably seen a lot of those, we wanted to go back and put together all the key moments in roughly chronological order — what Sen. Clinton said on different occasions, the key video from the trip, what other eyewitnesses say, what her spokespersons and aides say, etc.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] TPM’s Josh Marshall Encourages YouTubes “to Make Sen. Clinton Look as Foolish as Possible” (by Carlos at No Quarter) “Progressive” blogger Joshua Micah Marshall at Talking Points Memo continues his obsession with the “Hillary Clinton-Bosnia-Sniper” story. On Thursday, as of 21:00 ET, Marshall totally ignores the major foreign policy speech by Sen. Obama for more pressing matters: YouTube mashups! “The Clinton-Bosnia-Sniper story seems to be peaking. And there have been a lot of snippets of video swirling around YouTube with this or that part of the story. But most of them are incomplete or rapid-fire-cut or edited to make Sen. Clinton look as foolish as possible. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, as Jerry Seinfeld used to say. We do those kinds of videos too. But since you’ve probably seen a lot of those, we wanted to go back and put together all the key moments in roughly chronological order — what Sen. Clinton said on different occasions, the key video from the trip, what other eyewitnesses say, what her spokespersons and aides say, etc.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kourian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kourian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is maybe the first time I've been interested in an election. Probably the last too. Either things will turn out OK or they'll be so ridiculous there's no chance of hope anymore.

One thing I think I've come upon researching all this Hillary vitriol: it's about 'socialism'. People have been programmed to think this is vile. Literally programmed like some are programmed to be racist. They can pick up a clue really cheap if they want: almost all other countries in the western world today are 'socialist'. But the US: people continue to live in the dark ages. The only country this way without a comprehensive health care system for everyone with no up front cost either. When you look further - when you look at all the other ways people are getting screwed left and right ONLY in the US - you have to wonder.

But there are people out there who are so rabid about this. I don't know where they're coming from. But it seems all the 'anti' Hill stuff no matter what it looks like superficially is actually using other things to attack her because she's perceived as 'socialist'. Which again almost everybody in the west with half a brain already is. Except people in the US.

And that's my theory about what fuels their vitriol. Whatever. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is maybe the first time I&#8217;ve been interested in an election. Probably the last too. Either things will turn out OK or they&#8217;ll be so ridiculous there&#8217;s no chance of hope anymore.</p>
<p>One thing I think I&#8217;ve come upon researching all this Hillary vitriol: it&#8217;s about &#8217;socialism&#8217;. People have been programmed to think this is vile. Literally programmed like some are programmed to be racist. They can pick up a clue really cheap if they want: almost all other countries in the western world today are &#8217;socialist&#8217;. But the US: people continue to live in the dark ages. The only country this way without a comprehensive health care system for everyone with no up front cost either. When you look further - when you look at all the other ways people are getting screwed left and right ONLY in the US - you have to wonder.</p>
<p>But there are people out there who are so rabid about this. I don&#8217;t know where they&#8217;re coming from. But it seems all the &#8216;anti&#8217; Hill stuff no matter what it looks like superficially is actually using other things to attack her because she&#8217;s perceived as &#8217;socialist&#8217;. Which again almost everybody in the west with half a brain already is. Except people in the US.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s my theory about what fuels their vitriol. Whatever. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto. When I suggested it was fair to question his integrity regarding coverage of women's issues based on his actual history of covering women's issues, he got pissy. He wasn't even willing to consider the POV of a daily reader who'd been around for over 5 years. He's just right, because he's Josh. Reminds of someone else...two peas, I think they call it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto. When I suggested it was fair to question his integrity regarding coverage of women&#8217;s issues based on his actual history of covering women&#8217;s issues, he got pissy. He wasn&#8217;t even willing to consider the POV of a daily reader who&#8217;d been around for over 5 years. He&#8217;s just right, because he&#8217;s Josh. Reminds of someone else&#8230;two peas, I think they call it.</p>
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