Where Is the Outrage?
By PsychoDrew on March 30, 2008 at 8:17 PM in Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Democrats, Florida, Hillary Clinton, Howard Dean, Media, Michigan
Florida and Michigan are probably not going to have re-votes. I have acknowledged the reality but I refuse to accept it as legitimate. Do you think that automatic delegates and party leaders such as Bill Richardson would be asking the party to unite behind Hillary Clinton if Barack Obama had been denied an opportunity to close the gap by seating delegations from Michigan and Florida or holding new elections?
If the situation were reversed, would people be acting any differently? Would Maureen Dowd and Frank Rich be writing editorials attacking Hillary Clinton for dragging her feet? Would Jesse Jackson, Jr. be on television accusing the Clintons of discriminating against black voters in Michigan? Would Keith Olbermann be giving a “Special Comment” about how Hillary Clinton–no excuse, me, her advisors–are disenfranchising voters to serve her own self-interests?
Let’s be clear. If Barack Obama were in second place, and needed new contests in Michigan and Florida, Howard Dean would be moving heaven and earth to get those new contests. John Kerry and Dick Durbin would not be urging Barack Obama to step aside. Chris Dodd would not be calling on the candidates to split the delegates equally.
Oh no, there would be outrage. There would protests in the street. There would be talk of a third party. There would a movement to finance an independent campaign for Barack Obama.
Where are the angry party leaders? Where are the indignant editorials in the New York Times? Where is the outrage?
For Hillary and her supporters, there is no outrage. Why?
Two words: Clinton Rules.
Because this candidate is a Clinton and Washington liberal elite has never liked the Clintons.
Because this candidate is a woman and the Democratic Party doesn’t care about appearing sexist.
Because the Democratic Party is taking Hillary’s supporters for granted. Clinton’s base includes the Democratic Party’s most loyal and most vulnerable–older voters, women, Hispanics, blue collar workers, and gays and lesbians. Where else are we going in November? Obama’s independents and younger voters might not show up on election day, but Howard Dean and Barack Obama expect us to be good little sheep and follow the leader:
“I am confident I will get her votes if I’m the nominee,” Obama stressed. “It’s not clear she would get the votes I got if she were the nominee.”
What it boils down to is that we don’t matter.
But as much as party leaders want us to just go away, Democratic voters are having none of that. A recent poll by Rasmussen shows that voters aren’t ready for this race to end:
A solid majority of Democrats, 62%, aren’t ready for either candidate to leave the race. Nationally, Clinton and Obama are running essentially even among Likely Democratic Primary Voters in the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll.
Forty-seven percent (47%) of Obama supporters think Clinton should drop out. Thirty-eight percent (38%) of Clinton supporters say Obama should drop out. Those who remain undecided are a bit more likely to suggest that Obama should leave. But, it’s worth noting that less than half of Obama supporters say Clinton should withdraw, less than half of Clinton supporters say Obama should withdraw, and less than half of undecided voters say either should withdraw at this time.
Much to the dismay of the Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd, and the rest of the “Throw Hillary from the Train” crowd, equal numbers of voters want Obama out as want Hillary out:
Twenty-two percent (22%) of Democratic voters nationwide say that Hillary Clinton should drop out of the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination. However, the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that an identical number–22%–say that Barack Obama should drop out.
As much as Nancy Pelosi and Teddy Kennedy may not like it, this isn’t over. We’re not going away. We’re going to stay right here reminding Democrats that there is a double-standard in this party. We’re going to remind Democrats that party leaders are allowing voters to be disenfranchised at the expense of our candidate.
Most importantly, we’re going to remember.
We’re going to remember that when it came time for party elders to show some leadership and stand up for all Democrats, they chose not to.
Oh no. This isn’t over and we won’t forget.
Right on. Like in so many other areas of American life, in politics no one cares about the evenhandedness of the process anymore. All that matters is the outcome. Did my candidate win? Then the process was fair.
Exactly. We are expected to support an unfair outcome because we are loyal progressives. Nobody cares about screwing us over, but we can’t do anything to offend Obama’s college students and Republicans.
I wish some influential organization had the clout to organize a march, a visible protest or anything besides venting on the computer. People around the world take to the streets. Here in the USA we sit at the computer! Larry and Sue, help us plan something!
When the power goes out and that computer becomes a better boat anchor, trust me, the streets will be full of very dissapointed “True Believers”
tiffany, lead. what would you do?
We don’t need an organization, do we? I’ve been thinking a lot lately about 1992, the year Bill Clinton was elected. It was the first election in which I was really engaged. That election year was called, “The Year of the Woman.” A number of women began raising money and running for office because they were angry about the Clarence Thomas-Anita Hill Hearings. That year, four Democratic women were elected to the Senate–Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, Carol Moseley Braun, and Patty Murray.
Why can’t we just do that again?
As my husband says in such situations; who benefits? For the life of either of us I cannot figure out who is the real beneficiary of his candidacy and possible presidency, it has to be more than just clinton hatred. I understand that some of the old guard Dems may be jealous of her running, esp after their failed attempts etc. What is in it for the other’s; i.e. the corp media? I have pulled my hair out for too long trying to understand. Maybe someone here could truly investigate who benefits?
I’m reminded of this hypocricy with every new DNC fundraising letter. “Won’t you help us Restore Democracy to Washington, DC?” “Won’t you help us Save Our Country?” “We can’t afford another four years of Republican rule!” “DON’T ALLOW THE REPUBLICANS TO STEAL ANOTHER ELECTION!”…..
No, don’t allow Republicans to take your votes from you. Let US do it. Support US as we force candidates from the race, bully and cheat to favor one candidate over the other, and disenfranchise voters in (at least) two states to do it.
Pass. Democratic Party corruption is Still Corruption. No party has a moral right to my vote. And if Obama is the nominee, the Democrats will NOT GET MINE.
What fine entrepreneur is going to print up those Write In Hillary ‘08 stickers? My five dollars is waiting!
Today I took one of those fund-raising letters and wrote “Shame on the DNC! Shame on Dean and Brazile! No vote for Obama!” and sent it back in the postage-paid envelope.
Count me in.
You got it–there is no outrage about whatever outraged things happen. I have spent a great deal of time in the last several years to trace how the mainstream media handled the troubling “issue” of torturing terrorist and–mostly, alleged terrorists. Neither the revelations about the Justice Department’s Torture Memos, the admission of waterboarding selected terrorists, nor President Bush’s early this month’s vetoing of legislation that would have prohibited torture categorically resulted in elite (media) or public opposition.
Unfortunately, that’s what has happened to post-9/11 America.
What is so funny, is which groups fund the DNC, is it the college students who are flocking to Obama on a rock star status in Rolling Stoned, is it the Democrats for a day, who are abandoning Obama after they voted? Hardly, it is those supporting Hillary who are the majority funders, and Dean and Pesoli are sticking their heads in the sand of reality thinking Obama will bring in the money he is breaking the backs of a lot of his grass root supporters right now, so if he is the nominee, watch the change from bundled lobbyists becomes more open because of the need of money!
You don’t fake out the long distance run winner and champion by putting a 100 yd dasher against them in a 26km marathon!
grtphoto - I think who benefits are the old guard in the Senate who support Obama - I suspect they will run his butt up and down Capitol, getting whatever they want.
Hillary’s got her own ideas about what she wants from her presidency. She, on the other hand, wants the Senate to pass her agenda and that’s just too much to bear if you are an old guy with a giant ego.
I agree, and that is partially what I was alluding to. Do you think their are also corp. interests he is owe ing favors to?
Yeah, starting with Auchi, look at his IL history, who supported him, who the IL “players” are involved with, who is on Fitzgerald’s hit list.
Someone also mentioned oil, connect the dots.
And the best they could find was some legacy half wit out of Harvard?
Doesn’t say much for Obama’s recruiters, now, does it?
Doesn’t mean they were or are the sharpest group, they just were betting that we wouldn’t look too deep. He was “handpicked” by a group of who? Just like W, for 2000. Part of my opinion is that their calculation was his ethnicity, that we would just look and say wow, how progressive and not vett him at all.
Start with rezko, and his connections.
Stuart Levine, who is on trial with Rezko, testified Rezko said to him ” I want to make a President.” His first pick was Governor Blagojevich, apparently didn’t work out.
How are Obama and Rezko connected?
Where do Rezko’s connections go, other than Auchi? Maybe Exxon, Syrian criminality, Russia?
Who knows, but we’ll find out.
The trial resumes again, tomorrow, they were on spring break, this past week. ( I had no idea courts went on spring break…)
According to Levine, Rezko “controlled the central apparatus,” meaning the governor’s office. A peek into his IL dealings is a peak into the criminal Washington infrastructure, too.
Try the Chicago Tribune, and Rezkowatch, you will learn more about Obama, and understand WHY Chicago and English reporters are HORRIFIED, if not somewhat amused, and disgusted, by his candidacy.
Which governments has Auchi touched the most?
England, actually most of Europe, and IL must have something in common.
And Russia, lately, I’ve been seeing blips here and there about Russia, too, in conjunction with this mess.
I mean, we all know how business goes, it’s the same for criminalities.
I suspect he was handpicked, too. I think Obama is a perfect set up for Democrats. This whole thing just feels so scripted.
Weren’t Obama and Ken Mehlman classmates? Mehlman creeps me out, he’s now working on “political intelligence for corporate clients.”
said to him ” I want to make a President…So did Emil Jones…
Lynn Sweet in the Chicago Sun Times is all over this trial. Sometimes the Tribune is just too polite and they don’t want to go for the jugular, since they have endorsed Obama. Both Chicago papers do a much better job than the national press in covering this trial, and Rezko watch is a great site, as well. From my point of view, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald is just getting warmed up. Star witness Levine was a small fish, used to go after bigger fish like Rezko. If Fitzgerald is successful in nailing Rezko, he will be squeezed to roll over on Obama and Illinois Governor, Rod Blagojevich.
My family lives in WV and my parents are blue collar Hillary supporters. When Teddy endorsed Obama, my mother told me that the consensus among a lot of her friends was that Teddy did it so he could play puppet master. In my hometown, voters like results, not hype. Hillary will delivers results, the Obama’s and the Kennedy’s are all hype.
I’m outraged. I can’t get anymore outraged. I’m not voting Democrat if 2 million people are disenfranchised.
I’ve gone from deciding to support whoever the Dem nominee is, to voting third party, to deciding to sit the election out. I’m now at the point of actively campaigning for McCain if Obama bamboozles his way to the nomination. I’m going to toss away 30 years of Democratic party support, that’s how outraged I am.
The Democratic party has violated my trust. They’ve also condoned a whole lot of misogyny with their silence. They could have spoken up against some of the media’s blatent sexism, like they would have had Obama been subjected to racist attacks.
I’m just as angry as you are, but I’ve decided to vote for the nominee this time, even if the party leaders do tip the scales to Obama.
But isn’t this the very reason of why they take us for granted?
I concede the point. You are completely right. But I am a gay voter and I currently experiencing a great deal of personal turmoil because of the marriage laws in the States. I just can’t bring myself to vote for McCain or sit this one out. It’s a personal issue for me.
I completely respect those who can’t vote for Obama, but if it comes down to it, I’ll hold my nose and vote for him. Of course, I still haven’t given up hope that I will get to vote for Hillary!
Psychodrew,
You should be aware of the abject homophobia coming out of the black community. I know, I’m AA. People like Jesse Jackson,Jr., Roland Martin, Rev Meeks think homosexuality is a sin. Look to be disappointed in what Obama will do for the gay community.
There is a great deal of homophobia in the African-American community, but not nearly as much as in the Republican Party. My fear is that in 50 years, a young homosexual is going to ask me how I voted in this election. “Where were you when the Supreme Court was on the line?”
For me, that’s what it comes down to. It’s hard because I genuinely do respect John McCain, but he scares me more than Obama disgusts me.
Do you know what Obama did to the Mayor of SF ?
He was at a fund-raiser and refused to have his picture taken with him, right?
yes; here is the link
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/05/BAM5US1B5.DTL
PsychoDrew: Do you know what Obama did to the Mayor of SF ?
No, I won’t tolerate sophistry, voting for a man who is corrupt.
What possible justification can you have, really?
He took money, is highly connected to Saddam’s bagman, given the current scenario.
What, for starters, do you think the implications are, for the United States government, worldwide, say, the greater implications, of the candidate taking money from Saddam’s bagman, being closely connected to him, and the war, a stooge, say, much like the most of the British government ?
Auchi is one of the richest men in the world, someone mentioned to me they felt he was responsible for corrupting the British government.
Do you know, drew?
And does that make Obama a part of the problem, in the middle east?
much like most of the British government, sorry, added an extra “the…”
I honestly haven’t read anything on this. Could you post the link?
Thanks!
Psychodrew, my kid is a bright young person and is a “gay voter”. But before any god that will bear witness he is a human being first.
The bottom line is the folks that Obama has spent the last 20 years praying with, have said the same crap that one would expect from the mouths of the Christian right.On the topic of gay rights there is NO difference between them. From what I have been exposed to and read I implore not to take my word for it. there are numerous links and sources for this information including this sites archives of the last 4 months? Take heed.
When folks like Rachel Madow say they are for Obama, for the life of me I don’t know why. The gay community will NOT be represented in any meaningful way, because to do so Obama will have to go against 20 years of indoctrination I suspect quite the opposite.
Psychodrew, I respect your right to vote for Obama if he is the nominee, but I won’t. I will never forget what Dean and his cohorts have done to deny Democrats a full and fair election, and I will not forgive. I worry more about Obama actually becoming President than McCain getting the nod. I just have this bad feeling that there are people and organizations backing Obama that are still hidden from us. I don’t for a minute believe that his campaign money is coming primarily from grassroots individuals. I look on Obama as another GWB with some power broker(s) pulling all the strings while Obama acts the part of king.
I have the same bad feeling. Besides, we HAVE to teach the Party a lesson. That would be some change we could depend on.
I completely agree with both of you.
But right now, I, personally, am experiencing the worst, most devastating emotional turmoil of my life because of these marriage laws. It’s a great part of the reason that I am so passionate about Hillary, because I know that she will be a voice for people like me.
For now, I am staying positive. I have a great deal of faith in Hillary Clinton. I’m not counting her out because she has proven that she is tough and she doesn’t give up. After 16 years of being drug through the mud by the GOP and repeatedly thrown under the bus by the Democrats Hillary has stopped fighting for people like me, so I’m not going to give up on her.
Oops! That should read hasn’t stopped.
Here ye … I am outraged and if somehow Obama is the nominee…. I will vote against him….giving my vote to the candidate most likely to beat him. This has nothing to do with my support for Hillary. Obama and the DNC have lost my trust.
I am so angry I can hardly think straight. Those God damn Democrats that can dismiss me because I support Hillary Clinton as our nominee and think I will just automatically rally to this party that REFUSED to impeach these criminals, and now stands up for Obama and criticizes Hillary because she won’t iron his shirts, and walk ten paces behind. Well I am disgusted with them. I just sent her more money. And I didn’t send her money to drop out and let that crybaby have his lying way. He is about as appealing as Karl Rove, and just as big a liar. I will not be told to vote for Obama or I’m a racist. These Obamaloons are so arrogant. They don’t even have the decency to show Hillary or her supporters any respect at all. Well, lets see how they manage without our votes and money, come the fall.
“think I will just automatically rally to this party that REFUSED to impeach these criminals, and now stands up for Obama and criticizes Hillary because she won’t iron his shirts, and walk ten paces behind. Well I am disgusted with them. I just sent her more money.”
Ditto!
I thought I was the only one who felt this way about the impeachment failure. Actually, the Party lost my loyalty on not moving to impeach Bush/Cheney. So there’s no need for them to blame Hillary.
Look in the mirror, jackasses!
Ditto!
Cui bono?
Those who would continue Bush’s foreign policy via McCain are exploiting a wedge in the Democratic Party. Obama is their only option.
Also, old scores are being settled against the Clintons, with a part of the Obama faction oblivious to it’s prospective doom in the general, and another not really giving a damn, since McCain is who they’re really after.
Someone asked in another thread why are (some of) the same people financing Obama and McCain. The answer is because Obama as the nominee and McCain as president will solve their Bush at 25% problem.
Too cospiratorial? The proof will be when the media turns against Obama, big time, should he be handed the nomination by Dean and Company. Watch.
Those who would continue Bush’s foreign policy are not realistic, it seems as if they have very limited scope in understanding the realistic outcome of their plans. In their case, it’s wishful thinking, as opposed to hardcore bulletproof strategy. They simply cannot calculate how they are being gamed.
It’s one thing to THINK you can win in this manner, but when your planner is unable to understand the greater dynamics at play, it loses.
Period.
Obama is not a talent, Obama is not even what they really want. But they don’t see it, because those corporate interests are not themselves that smart.
Not when it comes to money.
People will do anything for money.
But like love, money can’t buy you brians, either.
I guess the trick is to use their mode of attack against them.
or brains, either.
I guess I think of Obama, and Jesus, I think of “the Life of Brian,” because well, Obama isn’t Jesus, Obama is really Brian.
If Clinton gets railroaded, and two states of voters ignored, not only will I not vote for Obama, I will ignore Democrats all the way down the ticket.
My 22 years of voting Dem will go out the window and an Independent I will become.
The outage so many of us feel will not go away after a few months and some pretty speeches. We will not “calm down” with a little time.
The Democratic party is assuming women will get in line - and they are dead wrong. It’s time to send a message loud and clear.
NObama ‘08
Love NObama ‘08 you should make some bumper stickers.
I haven’t quite reached the same decision but I am getting close to it. We are watching the Democratic party betray itself. And I will not be a part of it in November should these cultists win out.
I agree totally. The Dem party is taking us for granted. If we vote against them, we may suffer a few years(maybe not) but they will never treat us like crap again. I will take four years’ sacrifice for infinite years of respect.
WELL SAID TIFFANY!!
well said Tiffany but
they will never treat us like crap again
Yes the Democratic power stucture will and in the same fashion that it is occuring now.
Political expediency wins out over principles in these “days of Morder” and will for sometime to come.
Things have come to that!
I just can’t get over the way the Party has basically said kiss their butt. And the way the media has insulted my intelligence with their biased war against Hillary.
No mas! I really don’t care what anyone else is doing and if I’m a lone wolf. NObama 08!
“If Clinton gets railroaded, and two states of voters ignored, not only will I not vote for Obama, I will ignore Democrats all the way down the ticket.”
This is my plan too.
As far as speeches are concerned, I’m already in a 90% media blackout for over a month. I WILL NOT WATCH the convention and this will be the first one I’ve missed. So I won’t hear their stupid speeches.
It’s time to deprive the biased networks of their advertising revenue.
you have a very good point about down the ticket. i have also decided to do this. i usually vote a straight dem ticket, and have voted for the dem presidential nominee since 1972. this year, if obama is nominated, no matter what kissing up they try to do later or what phony consideration they give to fl and mi, i will vote a straight repub ticket. i’m a texan and the dems know obama won’t carry texas, so they don’t care about people like me. but if we vote a straight repub ticket, they’ll get the message that backing him is hurting the down ballot dems - and that’s a message i want them to get.
i will never again vote a straight dem ticket. after this year’s repub vote, i’ll consider all options with an open mind. this year, however, i no longer have an open mind. they MUST learn to not shit on us!
and the dnc will never again get a dime from me.
I totally agree with all of you, I don’t know what to do with my disgust and serious sadness as to what is happening. I can only debate with my husband so much, (were on the same side) before going crazy. I’m not sure they will miss our votes. I’m definitely changing my regis. back to Independent. I feel naive to have trusted that all we needed was the Dems to get into Congress to get the “right” things done.
DNC 202-863-8000. Call them and tell them how you feel as one last courtesy. They have the power to stop this train wreck and I have a feeling they’ll
recognize sincerity in our voices. If they continue to ignore us, we can find comfort in having done all we could to get their attention.
Lehey’s office: 202-224-4242. Thank him for his condescending suggestion that Hillary step aside for an underprepared half-term, half-assed male Senator.
The outrage is here they just are not listening to us. We are outraged so much so we will not vote for Obama. He could never win in the GE. If the democratic party wants to loose let them put him out there with his Reverend Wright. With the 2 disenfranchised states. With his lack of experience. What a joke he is. We are going to be saying President McCain in 2009.
“Where is the outrage?”
Let that either be an ironic or a rhetorical question.
I would have picked something other than Bob Dole’s tag line. It didn’t work for him either.
The visible bunch following Obama are the True Believers. Leaving the quest for self and Eric Hoffer aside for the moment, this maps into viciousness the greater the degree of ardency. (The whiny component follows proportionately and is the very reason they are so much fun to pick on.)
It has always been thus. And it will get worse.
So suck it up, it’s going to be a long slog.
There will come a reckoning.
I’m not sure if that will happen, believe me I am a skeptic and take very few of these individuals telling me how to feel and think seriously at all. I’m not confident in the power structure ever changing until they feel the pain they have caused. It is already a loaded game, how is that going to change short of a pitch fork revolt?
You know this is the first time I have seen the wording ‘pitch fork’ mentioned. I don’t advocate violence, because that never gets anybody anywhere. I have been very angry about people, including myself, just sitting at computers and spewing things. When are we going to start acting like the CITIZENS, that we are, instead of the R, and D, that they tell us we are.
It’s a reference to how serious I believe this to be, I do not adovocate violence, I’m merely speaking to the sense of outrage people are feeling. Not everything is literal.
“how is that going to change short of a pitch fork revolt?”
Carter was right. Americans define themselves in terms of their possessions.
He paid the price for being right.
We were deluded in the 60’s and 70’s that revolution could ever occur in the United States. It led to very bizarre behavior, Black Power, the Panthers, the Weather Underground, the SLA and the Manson family, maybe worse.
There will still be a reckoning. But beware gods with a sense of humor, Patty Hearst is making John Waters films.
I did not come up with the NObama slogan - although I wish I had.
People already are selling the bumper stickers at
http://www.nobama.org/.
I have a few already.
Thank you, I will check it out.
I’ll get some and put Hopeless on it as well (my husband idea).
One more thing, I can’t scream any louder….if the shoe were on the other foot the party leaders would break their backs to get the re-votes done! The democratic party is going to loose a lot of us, but they don’t seem to care.
Oh baby, I’m outraged. Read this if you dare, but be warned, it’s R-rated.
http://thehorizontalworld.blogspot.com/
LOL, good rant. Yep, I’d say you’re outraged.
The outrage is here. We, Clinton supporters (or at least substantial part of her supporters) are outraged. We don’t mind the competition; but we mind the cheap tactics, we mind the charade:
the clowns in the media selling to public a nominee and the DNC tactics of disenfranchising millions voters and crass bullying of Clinton. We mind they insulting our intelligence every day.
The media doesn’t care, the DNC doesn’t care, Kennedy, Kerry, Dodd, Richardson don’t care: precesily because of what you PsychoDrew point out. They take us for granted. And many Clinton supporters will find a way of convincing themselves to vote for Obama if he is the nominee in the GE. But many of us won’t. Because he is not qualified to be
the US President first and because of Wright, Meeks, Ayres and Rezko.
I will not forget; and I will not forget either about one of my two senators who is coming up for reelection.
This thread is really hitting home with me and your choice of “charade” is exactly a point I have made in the past; I resent the cheating, and lying and dirty tricks, I don’t for one second believe the media favors him over her, I think it purely by default; clinton hatred. Basically I resent being B.S.’d! They will not get my vote, I cannot cheat myself by voting for him at the last minute, too bad Dem. party.
I already did that with Deval Patrick… what’s that saying “fool me once…”
And the SCOTUS threat doesn’t work with me either. I thought about that really carefully. Will vote Dems straight down the list for Congress; and they are more likely to get a majority than Obama be elected if he is the nominee so Congress better get their act together and do their jobs putting the breaks with the confirmation of unacceptable SC nominees.
How would the party and the media be reacting if Hillary’s surrogates were threatening Obama’s supporters with primary challenges as Jesse Jackson, Jr. has done to Reps. Lewis, Rangel, Jackson-Lee, and others?
It would be quite different, I believe.
Absolutely, I have no doubt about that.
I think there’s lots of outrage, especially from “typical white women” like me! I’ve expressed that outrage to, among others, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, and the DNC. But who’s listening? Where’s the media to capture all this outrage? No one cares about me at the moment, but I guarantee that if Obama is the nominee they’ll care a great deal about me. And if/when that time comes, I’ll take great enjoyment in telling them all exactly what I think of them.
And I won’t be voting for Obama. I’ll vote for everything else on the ballot, but for the first time in 40 years of voting, I won’t be placing a vote for president.
I’m outraged, and the only way I have to express that is in the voting booth in November.
Susan,
thank goodness hillary has made it clear, absolutely clear over the past 48 hrs that she has NO INTENTION OF DROPPING OUT of the race. thankfully hillary is ignoring the lamebrain dnc chair dean, errant sen. dodd, and leahy, speaker pelosi, and the media attack dogs who have all put out the lying claim that she can’t win and therefore she should drop out .
hillary’s resolve to carry her campaign all the way to the convention has finally registered with some of the dimwits in our msm. mar 30 wapo published a lead editorial - don’t stop campaigning’ which urges hillary to stay in the race and lambasts obama backers wh are trying to get her to quit.
the intimidation tactics employed up to this point to sink hillary have failed, and hopefully may backfire on the dimwits like dean. it appears that hillary’s enemies are going to have to play it some other way.
when hillary uses common sense approaches like what fdr employed (for the good of the people, and the ‘common good’ clause of our constitution), it causes fear and dread through out the brit crown.
NObama is good. I also love a new one that is out there: It is Obama’s log of HOPE with the “O” changed to a “Y” so that it reads: HYPE…
We are getting very creative in taking our country back, yes we are…
meant “logo” not log.
You bet we’ll remember…at least I will! I’m one of those under-valued, older women voters! This is what I wrote:
“I’m Gonna Harden My Heart”
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/
I’m gonna harden my heart
I’m gonna swallow my tears
I’m gonna harden my heart
I’m gonna swallow my tears
Harden my heart…harden my heart…
swallow my tears
I’m gonna harden my heart….
–Quarterflash
This oldie but goodie has been playing in my mind over the last few days. I think I knew I had to go find the lyrics last night, though, as I composed a response to a post I read on another blog.
I can’t vote for Obama if he is the nominee. At this point, it’s become visceral. I won’t go into a detailed explanation right now, because my views have been expressed by many others on many of the blogs on my Blogroll.
Please note, there ARE people I will be voting for in November, so I won’t be a “stay-at-home voter.” I’ll vote for our Senate nominee, Udall, with great enthusiasm. And I will NEVER, NEVER vote McCain!!
But the reality is that my feelings go WAY BEYOND Obama! It’s what the party has been doing over the years…
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Let’s all plan to hold a rump convention somewhere in Denver at the same time as the DNC/Obama convention. Let’s make sure we have people from Michigan and Florida there.
Then, after the sham convention across town nominates The Chosen One, let’s nominate Hillary for President with Wes Clark as her running mate, and dedicate ourselves to getting her name on the ballot in all fifty states.
It’s been done before. Are we less Progressive now than we were in 1912? Is it easier to swallow a stolen nomination now than it was then? Not for me.
I’m sure we can find a High School Gym, a public park, somewhere, ANYWHERE, to hold our Progressive Democratic Convention.
I LOVE IT!
haven’t carried a picket sign since the 60s, early 70s, so my better public demonstration of protest days are behind me, but i’d find a way to get my creaky self out there!!!
Obama’s surrogates are real close to losing their cool.
Once a few of the Obama team are heard using anatomical terms for Hillary, we’ll be back in business.
What did they say?
No no,.. i’m just imagining what will happen in the next few days.
A lot of the good ole’ boys (and girls) in the Democratic Party must think that the Republicans will not be able to pin “Rev.” Wright on them come their next election. They might want to talk to former Senator Max Cleland about that. If Obama becomes the nominee the Democratic Party will be toxic for years to come in many parts of the country. Howard, Donna, Ted and Teresa and their buddies need to be told that my becoming an independent rather than a Democrat will apply to down ballot races as well as the Presidency. (I’m convinced they generally don’t much care about the top of the ticket as long as they get reelected themselves.)