Economics: Who’s the Real Democrat?
By SusanUnPC on March 31, 2008 at 2:12 AM in Barack Obama, Democrats, Donna Brazile, Economy, Health Care, Hillary Clinton, Housing Crisis, Real Estate, Workers
I think my favorite part of this video of ABC’s This Week, aired Sunday, is when Paul Krugman throws his face in his hands as George Will is delivering one of his stern school-of-hard-knocks lessons.
Barack! You’ve gotta stop copying Hillary’s homework:
Last Thursday, Senator Clinton called for a “second stimulus package” with $30 billion to help states and localities fight foreclosures. One week later, Senator Obama announced a “second $30 billion stimulus package”. … (Press release, March 27, 2008)
Next, Krugman’s NY Times column on “Loans and Leadership“:
On Friday, March 28, the campaign issued this press release, devoted entirely to Paul Krugman’s column:
***MUST READ***
NYT’s Krugman: Loans and Leadership
Excerpts follow below:
When George W. Bush first ran for the White House, political reporters assured us that he came across as a reasonable, moderate guy.
Yet those of us who looked at his policy proposals — big tax cuts for the rich and Social Security privatization — had a very different impression. And we were right.
The moral is that it’s important to take a hard look at what candidates say about policy. It’s true that past promises are no guarantee of future performance. But policy proposals offer a window into candidates’ political souls — a much better window, if you ask me, than a bunch of supposedly revealing anecdotes and out-of-context quotes.
Which brings me to the latest big debate: how should we respond to the mortgage crisis? In the last few days John McCain, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have all weighed in. And their proposals arguably say a lot about the kind of president each would be.
Mr. McCain is often referred to as a “maverick” and a “moderate,” assessments based mainly on his engaging manner. But his speech on the economy was that of an orthodox, hard-line right-winger.
It’s true that the speech was more about what Mr. McCain wouldn’t do than about what he would. His main action proposal, as far as I can tell, was a call for a national summit of accountants. The whole tone of the speech, however, indicated that Mr. McCain has purged himself of any maverick tendencies he may once have had.
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But I was even more struck by Mr. McCain’s declaration that “our financial market approach should include encouraging increased capital in financial institutions by removing regulatory, accounting and tax impediments to raising capital.”
These days, even free-market enthusiasts are talking about increased regulation of securities firms now that the Fed has shown that it will rush to their rescue if they get into trouble. But Mr. McCain is selling the same old snake oil, claiming that deregulation and tax cuts cure all ills.
Hillary Clinton’s speech could not have been more different. [NO QUARTER READERS: I’ve excerpted part of her speech below. — Susan]
True, Mrs. Clinton’s suggestion that she might convene a high-level commission, including Alan Greenspan — who bears a lot of responsibility for this crisis — had echoes of the excessively comfortable relationship her husband’s administration developed with the investment industry. But the substance of her policy proposals on mortgages, like that of her health care plan, suggests a strong progressive sensibility.
Maybe the most notable contrast between Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton involves the problem of restructuring mortgages. Mr. McCain called for voluntary action on the part of lenders — that is, he proposed doing nothing. Mrs. Clinton wants a modern version of the Home Owners’ Loan Corporation, the New Deal institution that acquired the mortgages of people whose homes were worth less than their debts, then reduced payments to a level the homeowners could afford.
Finally, Barack Obama’s speech on the economy on Thursday followed the cautious pattern of his earlier statements on economic issues.
I was pleased that Mr. Obama came out strongly for broader financial regulation, which might help avert future crises. But his proposals for aid to the victims of the current crisis, though significant, are less sweeping than Mrs. Clinton’s: he wants to nudge private lenders into restructuring mortgages rather than having the government simply step in and get the job done.
Mr. Obama also continues to make permanent tax cuts — middle-class tax cuts, to be sure — a centerpiece of his economic plan. It’s not clear how he would pay both for these tax cuts and for initiatives like health care reform, so his tax-cut promises raise questions about how determined he really is to pursue a strongly progressive agenda.
All in all, the candidates’ positions on the mortgage crisis tell the same tale as their positions on health care: a tale that is seriously at odds with the way they’re often portrayed.
Mr. McCain, we’re told, is a straight-talking maverick. But on domestic policy, he offers neither straight talk nor originality; instead, he panders shamelessly to right-wing ideologues.
Mrs. Clinton, we’re assured by sources right and left, tortures puppies and eats babies. But her policy proposals continue to be surprisingly bold and progressive.
Finally, Mr. Obama is widely portrayed, not least by himself, as a transformational figure who will usher in a new era. But his actual policy proposals, though liberal, tend to be cautious and relatively orthodox.
Do these policy comparisons really tell us what each candidate would be like as president? Not necessarily — but they’re the best guide we have.
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Read all of Paul Krugman’s New York Times column, “Loans and Leadership.”
Of special note: Here is the speech to which Paul Krugman referred — “Hillary Clinton’s Remarks on Halting the Housing Crisis.” Hillary gave the speech this past week in Pennsylvania. Perhaps Hillary should have read the speech personally to George Will:
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In today’s economy, trouble that starts on Wall Street often ends up on Main Street. Sometimes within minutes, sometimes over the course of months or even years. When there’s a run on mortgage-backed securities and the bottom falls out for investment banks, the bottom falls out for families who see the value of their homes, their greatest source of wealth, decline. When our credit markets freeze up, that doesn’t just cause panic on our trading floors, but in small businesses that can’t get the capital they need to survive. And on college campuses like this one, when the student loan for next semester falls through.
When we continue to persist in brain dead energy policy as confidence in our currency erodes, that means gas prices so high you feel like it costs more to commute to work than you make when you get there. It means rising food prices that strain household budgets. It means having less left over for savings or ever dipping into savings to make ends meet. It means more challenges for the mayor because property tax revenues drop, businesses don’t have the same ability to make that profit that benefits the city. It means more problems for the governor who has to look across a complex state economy trying to figure out how to keep what has been a remarkable string of real budget balances and surpluses. It causes problems for our country.
Ultimately the true currency of today’s American economy is confidence. When people lose confidence in the economy and our president’s ability to manage it, problems become crises and crises lead to more crises. So we need a president who can restore our confidence, a president who is ready to confront complex economic problems with comprehensive solutions, a president who will act at the first signs of trouble, working with experts to identify the problem, with agencies to adapt regulations, with congress to pass necessary legislation, working to prevent crises rather than just reacting too little too late.
We need a president who is ready on day one to be Commander-in-Chief of our economy. If you give me the chance, I will be that president. I will start by facing our economic situation as it is, not as we wish it would be.
That means acknowledging that our economic crisis is, at its core, a housing crisis, a crises caused in part by unscrupulous mortgage lenders and brokers and unregulated transactions in mortgage-backed securities, in part by speculators who were buying multiple houses to sell for a quick buck and other buyers who didn’t act responsibly. And in part by a president and administration who failed to anticipate and continue to downplay the problems we face.
Unlike what happened here in Pennsylvania, when Governor Rendell started seeing problems - and I remember those articles we had in the newspaper, governor, where the housing supply was being, you know, expanded and people were putting zero money down and they were trying to once again get the American dream, they were commuting sometimes two hours to be able to afford that house. Well, those warning signals went unheeded in Washington. But thankfully, not in Harrisburg. And what we have to do now is to look at our housing crisis in greater detail. And I’d like to outline my plans to address it.
2.2 million foreclosure notices went out last year - up 75% from 2006. Communities of color have been especially hard hit. Subprime loans are five times more common in predominantly African American neighborhoods than predominantly white ones. And 41% of loans to Hispanics are subprime compared to only 22% to whites.
But this crisis isn’t just about the more than 2 million households at risk of losing their homes and, of course, 2.2 million foreclosure notices means many more people than that because obviously you have homes where anywhere from two to ten people live. It’s about the tens of millions of families who have lost value in their homes.
When I talk about the home foreclosure crisis, sometimes people, I can tell, look at me a little skeptically because they, I can tell, they’re thinking to themselves, I didn’t buy one of those mortgages, I don’t have an ARM, I’m not at risk. But, in fact, that is just not the case. Home prices dropped almost 9% last quarter. Home prices for everyone.
If you have paid off your home, if you have a fixed rate mortgage with a manageable interest rate, you have suffered the steepest decline on record. That means families have lost at least $1.9 trillion in housing wealth so far, nearly two-thirds of the size of the entire United States government budget. And today, nearly 9 million families are struggling with mortgages that are under water. They actually owe more for their mortgages than their homes are worth. So what was once their biggest financial asset is now a financial liability.
The housing crisis is also a crisis for our cities, our towns and our neighborhoods. …
Read all of Hillary’s speech. It’s quite remarkable. No wonder Paul Krugman is so clearly a fan of her candidacy.
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SPECIAL THANKS to C.S. for the This Week video. You always come through, C.S.











Add Reich to the Kerry (Universal Health Care is a non starter) who are backing the “incremental steps” that Clinton is vilified for on the left blogosphere. Who is the cautious, triangulating politician?
Paul Krugman is right - Hillary is the leader on every issue. I can’t believe Reich could say that with a straight face when he stated the reason he went for Obama was because he was more progressive on these economic issues. Another back stabber who must be vying for a plum appointment.
Yes, we elected a Democratic Congress to get us out of Iraq and be bold on issues that are important to the middle class. What have we gotten, a bunch of weak, Bush enablers.
I am disgusted with this Party and I will leave it if this election is shut down before Michigan and Florida and all of the remaining contests count. This is also my litmus test: I will actively work against any Democrat that is part of this disenfranchisement.
Will you start with Harold Ickes? He’s Hillary Clinton’s chief strategist who voted to strip Michigan and Florida of their delegates.
Source that please. thanks.
OT, as an aside, there is a website, referenced from rezkowatch, called stopobama.org.
It examines Obama’s claims, and then the truth, acting as a sort of portal.
http://www.stop-obama.org/
Very interesting, particularly as it relates to Michelle.
Immaterial at this point, the person who has the power to make this happen is Dean; I thought he had a backbone; make this happen, Dean. God, I was a huge supporter of Dean for his Presidential run and DNC chairmanship. Show you have the leadership to fix this mess, Dean.
As far as the rest of the Democratic Party elected officials, get on board and stop the politics. If Michigan and Florida aren’t counted, or the process is made void by the Super Delegates prematurely going in one direction, then I say fie on the Democrats. This is not the Party of my parents nor my Party. As I said, this is the litmus test - the voters must have their say or it is all illegitimate.
Reich, his Obama Kissing blog aside: Reich was a joke in Corporate America for so many years. He was a big suckup to W. Edwards Deming like a stary-eyed little kid who didn’t quite grasp the Man He Loved’s concepts but sure acted like he did. I remember a series of videos where Deming is practically laughing at him. In the series, there is this cartoon Parrot with a kind of british accent that Reich talks to. What a troll this guy is. Never spent five minutes in corporate America and knew it all. Typical academic with his head up his butt. Obama attracts them because everything he says is abstract and for effect only. I spent a number of years in academia before I moved into the real world. This is an environment where everybody blows Theory out of every major orifice, but they have no sense of Practice whatsoever. Obama attracts them like flies. No surprise there. Look at his “experience” in the Real World. Nill. A “community organizer”. Dime a dozen. All that tells me is what I already know about him. He can run rallies and get people screaming. But he can’t actually DO anything.
I’ve already written to Dean and told him I am leaving his party. They don’t represent me any longer. The anger afoot is huge. I bet they can’t keep up with their email. I am sure Dean will be doing something next year, but I will bet it won’t be “leading” the Democratic Party. The free pass he continues to Give Obama is unconscienable and reminds me of when all the sick crap about Bush was ignored. But I think the last straw is allowing Obama to block a Florida and Michigan revote. These folks will NEVER forgive Obama and neither will I. Neither will most women who watched his sexist surrogates. Neither will Italian “Garlic Noses” This fraud will take his place next to George McGovern in the end.
not the first time Lee has been booed.
http://polipundit.com/wp-comments-popup.php?p=14568&c=1
well, that link is to a conservative website related to military folks booing her, not her own constituents. Sheila Jackson-Lee has served her consitituents very well for years. She is also one of the consistent voices for federal accountability related to Katrina. She is tireless about the issue. She is one of the view voices for our treatment of Haiti. This attack on her yesterday was basic evidence that Obama’s dream is bullshit. He should speak up right now to Sheila’s defense after years of her service, but will he? Nope, because it doesn’t serve him.
And she wasn’t the only black woman treated like shit at TSU yesterday. There were many black women who were standing up for Hillary at this caucus site. And it was their right to be there to support Hillary, but they were treated disrespectfully to the benefit of Obama’s New Hope.
And his camp has the fucking audacity to say Clinton is divisive? Bullshit!
Sheila is one of the strongest women you’ll ever meet. She is criticized for having a sizable ego, and that may be a fair criticism, but she comes through. Watch her in congress for a minute and pay attention to her voting record and you’ll know where she is. She is one of the very few congressional members that I’ve never had to lecture. I have known her for almost 7 years and she has been consistent against the Iraq war, against Wiretapping, for Katrina Relief, for fair treatment of immigrants, for the rights of disenfranchised voters, for poor people, and most of all she has never turned her back on the black community for a moment.
Fuck this shitty treatment of Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee. I’d fight every last one of them for her if I had to. I’ve worked with her and she’s a champ.
I gave $50 to her re-election campaign and thanked her for her courage in staying with Hillary.
Additionally, I know that Sheila got protested, mildly, but some peace and justice folks for her supportive comments about an Israeli wall…though I don’t know where she concluded her final position.
Will’s Law: that’s a good one. And it’s a good proposal. And I seriously don’t think anybody would be talking about it today if Hill hadn’t brought it to everyone’s attention.
How does John McCain measure up on the economic front?
I believe he’s been getting low marks for his views on the economy, but then again…what has he had to say about the economy at all? he’s too busy trying to have the next Hundred Years War
oh boy-Obama found in video at Wright’s church, signing books with Wright’s praise, praying with his kids in the pews and more. see below. no wonder Obama is hustling those SDs and telling Hillary to leave the race so much. Tip of the iceberg?
idontthinkso
http://www.newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/religion_theseeker/2007/03/hallelujah_bara.html
watch video of Obama and HIS CHILDREN AT SERVICES AT WRIGHTS CHURCH…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7DGI_IqX24
CHICAGO MEDIA COVERING UP OBAMA WRIGHT FOOTAGE
During the recent media super storm: Obama’s Pastor Disaster, CBS 2 Chicago has strangely not released video they have of Obama at Trinity United Church of Christ for a Book Signing / Church Service with Pastor Wright. According to a Chicago Tribune article, at the Service Obama spoke to the cheering congregation and the choir sang, “Hallelujah Barack”. After the service Wright and Obama sat together, laughing , talking and signing books. Leaving one to wonder, if a republican candidate had this sort of controversy swirling around would the footage have found it’s way to the national and cable news networks by now?
Your Chicago Trib link doesn’t work.
Too bad the snapperheads on my teevee don’t understand a nickel’s worth of economic policy — or any policy, for that matter. But maybe we can spend another week talking about Hillary’s trip to Bosnia while kneeling to L. Ron Obama.
I don’t believe most folks know anything about the economy frankly…they know their pocketbooks are dry.
Loved this:
You’d think that with her being “surprisingly bold and progressive” instead of blathering on with the usual drivel that the left would be cheering her on. Not so in this upside-downside Lefty world. She’s evil, she’s lying or whatever the insult flavor of the day is. While the ordinary, politics as usual, candidate is touted as transformational.
To think it was just a short time ago that Left Blogostan was chastising “Conservative Republicans” for their blind worship of a mediocrity like George Bush. What irony that so many now have a mediocrity of their own to worship right here on the left named Barack Obama.
AA want a candidate that shows that America can and will elect a AA to the highest office in the land. Just as women want their rightful place in this society. That’s nothing to make lightly of. But for God’s sake, make the content of the candidate more than rhetoric and race. AA’s have some wonderful people to represent them. Mayor Nutter is a man of integrity and substance. Ditto Cory Booker. And for Sheila Jackson Lee to be booed is reprehensible. She does more than talk, she does. Which of course is why she doesn’t support Obama.
I think this clip is a good example of why Republicans run circles around Democrats. Will proposes a simple idea that appeals to a lot of people - individual responsibility. Not one of the liberals on the panel made the point that Hillary makes in the highlighted portion at the end of her speech (above). They answer to Wills’ assertion that people who have been responsible are not going to be pleased that others are getting bailed out it to say that they will be even less happy to find their own home price plummeting or their neighborhood going to ruin because of neighbors’ foreclosures.
Democrats do a TERRIBLE job of making these issues clear and puncturing the seemingly logical but ridiculous arguments of free market fundamentalists like George Will. (Krugman does a good job in his columns, but did not make the point on ABC.) You can be as responsible as is humanly possible but you cannot protect yourself from these kinds of meltdowns unless you are very wealthy. A bailout at this point helps all of us, not just those who were irresponsible.
Reasonable regulation is the ONLY way to stop this kind of gambling on the part of fat cats which drags the entire economy down. So if we want to stop bailing out the wealthy everytime they get reckless, we need to go back to regulation. IT PROTECTS ALL OF US!!!!
Will just handed McCain a talking point on the economy from a Republican stand point. Too bad McCain isn’t going to take it–he should, because it will work for some voters in the GE.
P.S. I apologize for just slapping the video and her speech as well as her press release up … it was really late, but I hoped you’d all be interested in that discussion. Sure enough. I love your comments. Yes, Reich was terribly disappointing. Could say more — but just wanted to thank you all for your sharp comments.
Earlier on that show, John Kerry said that Hillary’s health plan would be D.O.A. in Congress. Can you believe it? I think we’re getting that clip too.
And the Obama people complain about OUR tactics?
Susan, I heartily agree - when Krugman threw his hands up, I could feel his pain. What a moment! LOL. and Reich really WAS pathetic. What a tool.
look at that round table. Except for Paul Krugman and G. Will, those f–ers owe thier whole careers to the Clintons! Who have ever heard of these people but for the Clintons?…I think that plays a part in all the back stabbing. The folks they help know this and can’t bare it…so they strike back to prove they would have become prominent anyway. Well you are WRONG assholes. The Clintons give you a leg up and you sell out to thier enemies who would not spit on you otherwise. End of story