Unemployment Rising
By Alegre on April 6, 2008 at 11:44 PM in Economy, Hillary Clinton, Unemployment, Workers
SusanUnPC’s Foreword to Alegre’s Story: I’m inserting a two-part interview by CNBC’s Jim Cramer with Hillary Clinton last week, captured by our expert C.S. Part One is here, and Part Two is just below the “Read More” tag.
I’ve said it before and I’ll keep on saying — it’s still the economy stupid. So the big-shots are actually starting to use the R word — it’s not news to a lot of folks back home in Michigan. They’ve been neck-deep in the R word for the last year or more. Homes in foreclosure where even the banks can’t sell them. Folks out of work. We thought of moving home a couple years ago so our kids would be closer to my folks and the rest of the family, but we knew there was no way my husband could find work. No one’s fixing up homes when they can barely make the mortgage payment. It’s not a pretty picture and it’s only going to get worse.
Sad thing is, everyone’s saying there’s no way they could have forecasted this messed up economy. Take a look at what they had to say in the New York Times…
Part Two of Jim Cramer’s interview of Hillary Clinton:
Friday’s awful news of 80,000 lost jobs in March surprised economic forecasters, who had not expected such a severe contraction. But it’s safe to say that it did not surprise most Americans. Just days before the report, a poll taken by this paper and CBS News showed that a stunning 81 percent of Americans believe the nation is on the wrong track. That’s the highest percentage since the poll began asking about the country’s direction in the early 1990s. Two in three respondents said they believed the economy was in a recession.
The March employment report leaves virtually no doubt they are right. The job contraction last month was on top of large losses in January and February. Not since the 1950s has job growth contracted for three months straight without recession. The question is whether lawmakers in Washington will catch up to where the people are in time to help in a meaningful way.
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Even for those who escape layoffs, a deteriorating labor market (unemployment spiked from 4.8 percent in February to 5.1 percent in March) means slower wage growth. When new inflation data is released next week, March is expected to become the sixth month in a row in which wage growth has not outpaced inflation. The likely result is more defaults by people who otherwise would have been able to keep paying their mortgages.
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Rising unemployment will worsen all of the expected problems of a downturn — from waning consumer spending, to foreclosures, to rising demand for government-paid health care, food stamps and unemployment benefits.
They close by calling on Congress to take swift and bold action. Hillary’s been calling for such action for over a year — I can’t imagine her frustration at seeing her collegues do so little too late for millions of American families.
Well here’s what she had to say about the jobs report yesterday…
Hillary Clinton Statement On March Jobs Report
Today’s news that unemployment jumped to 5.1% in March and that our economy lost jobs for the third straight month adds to the mounting evidence that our economy is spiraling downward, and that hardworking families are paying the price.
It’s time the President and John McCain recognize the r-word: reality. Our economy is in serious trouble and unless we act swiftly we could be sliding into a deep and painful recession.
When Wall Street faced crisis, we saw swiftly and creative action and a $30 billion lifeline for Bear Stearns. Today’s jobs report confirms that it’s time to take equally aggressive action to help American families struggling in our bearish economy.
For more than a year I have been like Paulette Revere, calling for action to keep the problems from our housing market from spilling over into our economy. After a year of denial and half-measures it is time for this Administration to put ideology aside and get serious about stemming this crisis. Perhaps this jobs report will also help John McCain recognize that doing nothing is not an economic strategy in times of urgent need.
While I support the legislative approach that Senator Dodd and Congressman Frank are taking to help restructure mortgages and keep millions of families in their homes, today’s news of serious continued weakness in our labor markets reinforces that we need to be ready to go further. I believe we must stand ready for the government to purchase at risk mortgages. We also need a second stimulus of at least $30 billion to help states and localities fight the foreclosure crisis in their communities.
When Hillary talks about feeling like she’s been Paulette Revere she’s not kidding. Here’s a speech she gave on the sub-prime mortgage crisis in mid-March of last year…
As usual, Hillary’s ahead of the pack when it comes to understanding the problems of this nation, and (as usual) she’s got plans to help the people who’re hurting.
READ more about Hillary’s plans for strengthening the middle class
In the lead-up to Bush’s final State of the Union speech, Hillary spoke about the state of our broken economy, Bush’s neglegence, and what needs to happen NOW to fix what he broke…
After seven years of inattention, neglect and denial, this Monday night, President Bush may well actually discuss the serious economic problems we face. And it’s about time.
You know, we didn’t hear from him when the typical family incomes dropped $1,000 over the past seven years — $2,600 for African American families. As health care premiums nearly doubled, gas prices more than doubled, and college costs here in South Carolina rose 124% since 2000, the fastest increase in America.
We didn’t hear from him as more than two million foreclosure notices went out — 11,000 properties right here in South Carolina are in some stage of foreclosure. That’s 11,000 families that are facing the potential loss of the American dream.
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The presidency matters more now than ever. We need a president who will run the government and manage the economy. American people don’t hire a President to talk about our problems but to solve them, to set a vision for the future, and then to roll up our sleeves and get about fulfilling it.
It’s time for a President who believes that leading an economic comeback is a fulltime, hands-on job. Who renews our commitment to a strong and prosperous middle class and brings business, labor and government together to restore America’s competitiveness in a fast changing world. A president who has a vision for a twenty-first century economy based on shared prosperity. Where we measure our success not by the wealth at the very top but by how broadly wealth is shared.
She goes on to talk about some of the things she’s do immediately…
90-day moratorium on foreclosures.
Freeze variable rates for 5 years.
Green Collar jobs.
Then there are the long-term solutions…
During the 1950s and 60s which many of us look back at with great appreciation because the economy worked so well, for so long, for so many, we had a much higher percentage of our workforce unionized. Now it is much lower. We need to make sure people can organize and bargain for good wages and safe working conditions.
We need to be sure that we restore fairness to the economy by restoring fairness to the tax code. Right now, some of the people I represent in New York City, Wall Street investment managers, making $50 million a year pay just 15% on their earnings — while a teacher making $50,000 pays 25%. I don’t think that’s right and I’ve been calling to raise the taxes on those people at the top.
As corporate profits have skyrocketed, the percentage of taxes paid by corporations has fallen. We have richly rewarded people and I am all in favor of incentivizing people to do well. That is part of what America stands for. But it isn’t right that the wealthy and the well-connected have gotten so many more benefits than the middle class and working people have.
We need to extend middle class tax cuts, including the child tax credit, marriage penalty relief. We need to reform the Alternative Minimum Tax to ensure it doesn’t hit middle class families with higher tax rates. It was never supposed to do that. We need to expand the Earned Income Tax Credit and raise the minimum wage to ensure that work pays for all Americans. No one who works full time should live in poverty. If you’re working full time you shouldn’t be in poverty.
We need to give people the tools and support they need to succeed in today’s complex economy. That starts with recommitting ourselves to making college affordable for our young people. That’s especially important here in South Carolina, the average student debt upon graduation is $20,000. So you start in a big hole before you ever go to work on the first day. And you know what’s happened which is really troubling to me–America’s higher education system which was the envy of the world, we had an open system, the highest percentage of young people who went to get degrees, but now from Japan to South Korea to Canada and Ireland, other countries are educating their young people at a higher rate than here in America. The reason for that is the cost has exploded. It is more expensive today than it was thirty years ago to send a child to college.
That’s why I’ve outlined a comprehensive plan to open the doors of college to young people. It includes a new $3,500 college tax credit that will cover more than 50% of the typical cost of public colleges and universities or the full cost of tuition and fees for community colleges.
I also want to increase the size of Pell Grants, something that former Secretary Riley mentioned. I want to strengthen community colleges, invest $500 million to support innovative, on-the-job training and apprenticeship programs for those who don’t go to college.
We also have to ensure that every American has quality, affordable health care. Here in South Carolina alone, 672,000 people are uninsured. I want to ask you– how many of you know someone here in South Carolina who is uninsured? How many of you know somebody who may have insurance but it just doesn’t pay for what the doctor or the hospital says you need?
Right to organize.
Reforming the tax code.
Tax cuts for working folks.
Making college affordable.
Universal health care.
Preparing for retirement.
Guys it all comes back to strengthening our economy and Hillary gets that like nobody else.













Besides the fact that Hillary and Cramer are always FABULOUS together,
The unemployment figures that governments produce are always deflated. Here is why: When a person receives his last unemployment check, he falls off the statistical rolls and is no longer counted, even if he STILL doesn’t have a job. The real figure is MUCH worse.
The “employment” statistics on the other hand, are always INFLATED. Here’s why: When a person loses a job and finds he has to take TWO lousy jobs to try to recoup what he USED to make before he got layed off, those two jobs are counted as two cases of employment, even though only one person holds both jobs.
Our governments at all levels have been screwing us with these stats for decades.
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After everything that’s come crashing down she’s still touting the damn Community Reinvestment Act. That Act was on the books from 1977 (Jimmy Carter) but in the early 90’s when she & Pres Clinton tweeked it & all hell broke loose. Jim Cramer/”Mad Money” is on CNBC, so is Larry Kudlow & lately Larry has been raising hell about the Community ReInvestment Act. There’s worse things in the world than renting. The NAACP has some lawsuits pending against alot of major lenders. I say fast track those lawsuits & let’s get to the bottom of it. If minorities were really qualified for 30yr fixed rates but were bamboozled into ARMs, that’s criminal. So prosecute. But don’t socialize all the debt or noones property is going to be worth jack.
The neocon economic policies failed miserably, all the neocon selfishness, and libertarian rage culminating in the brittle, fatuous economic policies of the republicans. No money for anybody, but the connected, right?
Just ask Obama.
In fact, I’d say it’s your weakest point, and you’re scared, here.
I hope they poke you, real hard.
I luv it when she uses the Warren Buffett line of reasoning on Cap Gains. Sure, when you compare a damn hedge fund manager paying 15% on Cap Gains & making millions to some school teacher paying 25-30% on regular income it seems very unfair, but like I’ve harped on before: the schoolteacher has a contract & gets paid no matter what. Alot of 1099 investment income is risky. She obviously won’t indemnify losses so why can’t she see the difference. Maybe she needs a Ron Paul lecture on how her policy will really hurt retirees who need every nickle & dime from their C.D.’s. Hillary & Obama need to get real. Leave the first 25K at the current 15% rate & go up from there, elsewise it’s really regressive & will hurt alot of the same people she & Obama claim they want to help. Now Congress wants to bail out the builders. I can’t wait to pay more taxes to help Donald Trump & AIG Developments.
It is about distrubution of “wealth”. Bailing out Bears & Sterns was the biggest 30 billion dollar theft ever committed. Who pays for that “distribution”?
Justsomeone = Troll
Thanks. He and his comment are gone. Finito.
So everyone has to pay for hedge funders/risk takers for going to the ‘casino’, trying to cheat and losing? Bullshit. I don’t expect my neighbor to pay for my trip to the craps table, why should these people?
Simon, what’s my weakest point? Point & poke, huh? I left you a message about 30 posts back, you must of missed it.
I think you’re a troll.
I also think it’s a waste of time to speak to you, you aren’t open to real discussion or exploration of real policy, (if you even understand the complexity of the issues) you unknowingly argue your fears. You strike me as genuinely being scared shitless.
Nothing sadder than a troll who can’t understand the issues he’s trying to control and misdirect.
I never spoke to my mother about Imagist poetry say, she wouldn’t get it, I wouldn’t expect her to, we were fine.
Likewise, I wouldn’t speak to you about economic policy, you don’t get it, you expose yourself within the context of your troll attempts, I don’t expect you to get it, it’s hard stuff.
But you are willing to hurt genuine victims, accuse them of ripping off the system, the very thing you do, and you’re ashamed, all this rationalization about “they all do it” well, you’re looking for absolution, you’re scared, got yourself into something you can’t handle.
Your “type,” anyway.
Thanks, Simon. The offending comment was removed. It was spam.
Do you have any idea how many retirees bring in less than a grand a month in S.S? Do they really need to have their savings obliterated at a higher tax rate along with 7& inflation?
How’d you like to be a retiree living in Europe, where $1,000 is only worth 600 Euros? Don’t be fooled into thinking the Euro economy is doing so great. It’s the Bush Adm. policy of devaluing the dollar that is causing the problems for Americans in Europe.
Also interesting is that General Motors, Ford and Chrysler are being sued by Canada. It seems that while the US dollar and Canadian dollar are now at parity, the US manufacturers are offering automobiles in Canada at higher sticker prices and have warned sellers in the lower 48 that if they sell to Canadian customers, they will lose their dealerships. I hope this Bernanke crook is going to lose his job in November along with the rest of the incompetents.
7% infation
infLation, damn
Hillary & Obama think if an individual makes more than $32,500 annually or a couple more than 44K, they’re “middle class”. It’s pathetic how out of touch they are.
>>> Sad thing is, everyone’s saying there’s no way they could have forecasted this messed up economy.
Anyone who can claim, with a straight face, that this little debacle was unexpected needs to be checked to make certain that he/she is not actually a f*****g TURNIP!
So Condi of ‘em eh? What they won’t tell you is how bad it is going to get.
3 trillion dollars of private home equity just vaporized in 60 days and the corporations that caused this get immunized and the home owner gets the jackboot and senator Dodd gets a campaign contribution from the people he has at the witness table. What a racket.
And don’t forget that Obama himself is up to his neck in subprime lender $$$. Small wonder HE’s all for bailing these crimnals out!
Fred, I agree, there was no way disaster could be avoided, you saw it comin & so did alot of folks. I hate to get into conspiracy theories, but man, what other explanations are there? We’re like 9.3 trillion in the hole & these wise guys remove the wall between commercial & investment banking, run the borders wide open. Tell me how this scene can have a happy ending, do you have any ideas?
Well. I WOULDN’T start with opening the discount window to the investment banks - it’s like a gambling addict winning the lottey, and anyone who thinks Bear-Stearns is just one-time thing isn’t paying attention.
Teakwoodkite, if Jamie Dimon hadn’t agreed to buy Bear Sterns within a week there’d of been a run on every bank & credit union in the country.
justsomeone…this is borrowed time. The holes in the dyke are to many.
I for one think the taxpayers got robbed. Jamie Dimon, if not for the 30 billion in lard (our money)
berns and Stern was just one Enron. They should have let it fail.
The good news is that markets rebound after setbacks!
Four of the last five major market declines since Jan 1926, four of them happened close to an economic recession, and in all five instances, the market was better within 12 months!
Of course the late 20’s crash is not included for some reason, only crashes after that. No need to let facts get in the way of an effort to keep 3 million plus of local pension funds in their trust. It does no good trying to warn people a year in advance…
Every crash occurred on the end of a republican administration, outside of the 1978 OPEC hijacking of our economy.
Well, there was the ‘39 effort that was a result of WW2 changing market distribution, but that was an external factor driving it, not policy.
1960(coming off a decade of the GOP and Ike warning us about the MIC).
1970(Nixon’s high water mark).
1990(A decade of Ronnie “Facts are stupid things” Reagan GOP policies).
Keep in mind for 1978 we addressed the record deficit that Gerald Ford’s Chief of Staff Dick Cheney(Mr. Deficits don’t matter) left in America’s lap and had it nearly balanced. It was the only time such was done, the lack of expediency burned Carter. Every other market spike saw the deficit in worse shape than it was at its outset, then again that is a GOP trademark.
The GOP is RICO material.
It’s my impression those rebounds are engineered, they manipulate the markets the same way Cheney and Bush try to manipulate the news, managing the economy psychologically, because “it’s all psychological, anyway.” That’s not true. And first, you have to understand psychology before you can manipulate it. (Those idiots with a need to create their own reality, whether Wall Street, or Washington.)
Which means you have a bunch of money morons in the process of being trolled, fucking up, daily.
IMO.
Saeed, and google, really interesting.
A lot of stuff starting to make more sense, now, I remember when Google went public, and the lead up to it.
Bill Press is at this moment playing a clip of Hillary Clinton saying “I have nothing against rich people…much to my surprise, we’ve made a lot of money since we left the White House…”
She’s snarking on herself, but of course, Press acts as if she’s being serious and criticizes her for her “cluelessness.”
Press is, as usual, almost impossible to listen to- “we have some of the earliest evidence…..of umm, human civilization…they’ve found, in a cave….and they know it’s human civilization….because….they’ve found…fossilized human feces (giggle, snort)….that’s what they are going to know about us…after all we’ve accomplished (snork)…after all we’ve done, all that’s going to be left of us is….fossilized human feces (giggle)….so there’s crap you didn’t hear about anywhere else (giggle chuckle snort)….”
Jesus, almost makes me wish for the return of the Smarmy Sexist Young Jerks….
Bill Press was also pursuing the Hillary Lied Again bullcrap regarding the hospital story. He stated that her staff should have investigated the story. I think HE also needed to investigate what Hillary actually said before spewing the Hillary is a liar crap.
I no longer listen to ANY so called progressive radio. What a shame . . . .
I guess that Press’s “technique” is to drag a story out for so long, you’ve passed out with boredom by the time he gets to the punchline.
Glenn Beck’s is to insert very long pauses in between sentences, so listeners think their radios have gone dead and move on to something entertaining.
Rachel Maddow’s is to repeat points over and over as if to convince us that what she’s saying is VERY VERY IMPORTANT so we PAY CLOSE ATTENTION to the punchline (”and the most Astonishing thing is, the most astonishing thing in all this, the most amazing, colossal, unbelievable thing about All This Is….”)
Randi Rhodes’s is to meander off into some bizarre rant which has nothing to do with what she’s talking about, but which she and only she thinks is funny, and to end with “but, ya know, I mean, whatever, ya know?”
Lionel’s is to use a fifteen-letter word where a five-letter word fits just fine, because it’s all about distracting the listener with his Amazing Vocabulary, and to use a cymbal crash to let you know he said something amusing (because you aren’t likely to get it on your own.)
John, you’re very funny. I especially liked your description of the various callers into C-SPAN a while back.
Air America is a right wing front owned by Clear Channel. Once that is known, it all makes sense. And it’s a rest to no longer have to ask what happened?? or try to read the tea leaves as to WHY they are 24/7 obama shills.Follow the money.
Not long ago, I would have called you a conspiracy theorist nut for thinking that. Now it sounds completely plausible.
I remember being upset the first time I heard that Air America was bankrupt. Now I wish it hadn’t been “rescued.” What a waste.
Mr M, thanks for tryin’ to cheer me up. Wish I could feel optimistic that we’ll pull out of this before we crash. You may want to consider the national debt is not the same as the deficit. The deficit is the difference between what we brought in & what we spent. The debt is actual debt & it is compounding rapidly. Yeah, I think it’ll all work out in about 20 or 30 yrs but that’s not going to help people loosing their jobs now etc.
[...] Unemployment Rising (by Alegre at No quarter) I’ve said it before and I’ll keep on saying — it’s still the economy stupid. So the big-shots are actually starting to use the R word — it’s not news to a lot of folks back home in Michigan. They’ve been neck-deep in the R word for the last year or more. Homes in foreclosure where even the banks can’t sell them. Folks out of work. We thought of moving home a couple years ago so our kids would be closer to my folks and the rest of the family, but we knew there was no way my husband could find work. No one’s fixing up homes when they can barely make the mortgage payment. It’s not a pretty picture and it’s only going to get worse… Guys it all comes back to strengthening our economy and Hillary gets that like nobody else. Click through for more information and to watch Jim Cramer’s interviews of Hillary Clinton on what needs to be done about the economy. Cramer appears to be a Hillary fan. [...]
I love Jim!
When Hillary got his endorsement a while back I remember thinking, “what a GREAT thing!”
I’d much rather have his endorsement than a dozen other political ones I could name (cough from Mass or VT or MO) but won’t cuz I’m no name dropper!
lmao.
[...] Unemployment Rising (by Alegre at No quarter) I’ve said it before and I’ll keep on saying — it’s still the economy stupid. So the big-shots are actually starting to use the R word — it’s not news to a lot of folks back home in Michigan. They’ve been neck-deep in the R word for the last year or more. Homes in foreclosure where even the banks can’t sell them. Folks out of work. We thought of moving home a couple years ago so our kids would be closer to my folks and the rest of the family, but we knew there was no way my husband could find work. No one’s fixing up homes when they can barely make the mortgage payment. It’s not a pretty picture and it’s only going to get worse… Guys it all comes back to strengthening our economy and Hillary gets that like nobody else. Click through for more information and to watch Jim Cramer’s interviews of Hillary Clinton on what needs to be done about the economy. Cramer appears to be a Hillary fan. [...]
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