Welcome to Bittergate!
By Fleaflicker on April 12, 2008 at 2:11 PM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Hillary Clinton, Indiana, Pennsylvania
We all knew it would happen. Finally Obama would say something that would betray his arrogant condescension toward almost all other Americans in a way that was so heinous that even the Obamedia couldn’t cover it up. Yep, it happened. Some people are calling this his Macaca moment. Others, more sensible and tired of all his lying ways, are calling this his CaCa moment. Because he sure let a pant load come out of his mouth this time. And the funniest description of this came from Ace of Spades HQ who pegged it:
Vote For Me, You Corncob-Smokin’, Banjo-Strokin’ Chicken-Chokin’ Cousin-Pokin’ Inbred Hillbilly Racist Morons
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But the absolute best description for what Obama did to himself is Bittergate.
And this one ain’t going away.
Hillary’s campaign jumped on this one immediately. Spokesperson Phil Singer issued the following statement:
Obama Expands on ‘Bitter’ Pennsylvanians Comment
“Instead of apologizing for offending small town America, Senator Obama chose to repeat and embrace the comments he made earlier this week,” said Clinton spokesman Phil Singer. “It’s unfortunate that Senator Obama didn’t say he was sorry for what he said. Americans are tired of a President who looks down on them — they want a President who will stand up for them for a change. The Americans who live in small towns are optimistic, hardworking and resilient. They deserve a president who will respect them.”
People in Indiana are indeed angry now. At Senator Obama.
Clinton to Hit Obama Over ‘Small Town’ Remarks
“I’m very upset about it,” said Bruce Baxter, who has worked as an assembly operator at the plant for more than a decade. “Being a factory worker, a blue-collar worker, it offended me very bad. And it reminded me why I support Hillary.”
Steve Webber, a production inspector, predicted that Indianans would bristle at the remark.
“It didn’t really offend me at all, but I did think it was not a smart comment to make right now,” Mr. Webber said. “It could really change things for her. Here in Indiana, we like our small towns. We think of Indianapolis as a small town. “
Many people see this as an affront to ordinary Americans. Ed Morrissey thinks it demonstrates Obama’s contempt for people he doesn’t associate with or understand.
This is why rookies shouldn’t run for President
Only a rookie would make a colossal blunder like calling Midwestern, small-town voters a bunch of bigoted, overly religious gun nuts:
~snip~
The matter-of-fact style in which he spoke this shows the unthinking contempt he has for people he has never engaged — an acceptance of stereotypes without questioning them that shows his own bigotry, not to mention foolishness and poor judgment.
Other’s have a different interpretation of the bitterness:
Obama’s None-Too-Bright Remarks
The other problem is this: Obama was essentially claiming that the reason people are not voting for him is because they are bitter:
Someone needs to sit Obama down and have a little chat with him. Maybe the conversation would go something like this.
Well, maybe not. But it sure seems like his advisors said that to him. They probably followed Michelle’s lead.
As expected the Republicans have their take on this to. And to them Obama didn’t just misspeak, he got very stupid all of a sudden. And they are LOVING it!
3. “They cling to guns or religion”. This is revealing for two reasons: one, Obama has been trying to finesse his position on guns to appeal precisely to gun owners and thus we start to see that his repositioning is cynical to the core; two, “cling to religion?” No rural Pennsylvanian clings to religion more than Obama himself, who for 20 years sat silent in the pews, while a hate-spewing minister damned his country and most everyone else. The question is not why Pennsylvanians “cling to their religion”, but why do the Obamas still cling to the Trinity Church that seems far more extreme than anything I’ve seen in rural America.
4. “antipathy to people who aren’t like them”—as in the case of Rev. Wright’s views of Jews, whites, Italians, or Americans in general? In short, Obama accuses rural Pennsylvanians of a racism that they haven’t expressed while contextualizing the racism that his own Rev. Wright has.
~snip~
7. Let me get this straight: Obama goes to the Bay Area to an affluent liberal enclave to give a condescending take on the supposed poor fools that he is currently trying to court. This is not just hypocritical, but abjectly stupid. All of Pennsylvania surely is asking today what is so hip and sophisticated about the Trinity Church and Rev. Wright?
I wasn’t born in a small town. But I grew up in one. And the people I grew to know were nothing like the people Obama describes. Some of my fondest memories as a child and an adult come from going down to visit my relatives that live in rural Kentucky. None of them have much money. And while a few of my cousins have guns, they use them to hunt. The poor people there aren’t bitter. They have learned to accept their way of life and they all pitch in to help each other in times of need. I can’t begin to tell you how many times some neighbor would drop off food for my ailing grandmother. Not because they really even knew her, only because they knew she was in need. These are what REAL small town people are like. They have more heart, soul and spirit than Senator Obama will ever have or understand.
I leave you with one of my favorite songs written and performed by a man that was born in a small town and still cherishes the values that one can only inherit by living there.
Brilliant! and too funny I raise my banjo in salute to you sir, as soon as I’m done makin righteous love to my pet pig Susie….
Obama was just restating what effete East Coast liberal intellectuals think about rural Americans. I’ve lived in Boston, New York and San Francisco, and the people I’ve encountered there think of the Midwest, the Appalachians and the South as one big cesspool of unenducated, gun-toting, Bible thumping racists.
Well, two out of four ain’t too bad, I reckon.
Obama is a pander bear.
What a great comment! Thanks for your add to my vocab.
You forgot shoeless - we don’t wear shoes in the south or at least that what these elitest think.
It is interesting in that he was giving his take on the peasantry to the upper class donors.
Condesending and stupid on his part
Well - George Bush was elected twice - it might work for him. Not for me
There is a huge disconnect between Obama’s supporters and reality. I made some comments on a few diaries at MyDD last night and was called a racist and a Republican by Obama supporters for my efforts. They just don’t get why anybody would be so upset about his comments. Just like their candidate does not get it.
I live in PA. Obama just keeps showing me my decision to support Hillary is the right one. He just keeps putting his foot in his mouth and then his supporters shove it farther down!
No amount of spin is going to make it right. Obama’s true colors are shining through.
I can’t tell you how many times I was called a racist or a republican at MyDD. The place has gotten very bad. A lot of people are starting to get the message that anything not 100% totally pure pro-Obama is not welcome there.
Yeah…..I quit posting at that OBAMEDIA/OBAMcCARTHY site….This one is alot more fun….I’m not Judgin’…I’m just sayin…..
“There is a huge disconnect between Obama’s supporters and reality.”
And this was written by a Hillary supporter?
Mr. Pot, I would kile to introduce you to Mr. Kettle.
We see Hillary for her strengths and weaknesses, and can cite policy and he documented record to support our choice for president, unlike the Messianic zeal of Obamabots. When asked to name one accomplishment, you get: “umm, umm, hope, change.”
Clinton in her NC campaign ad asks for questions and comments from the viewers. Maybe she is pretending to care. Obama can’t be bothered to even pretend to care (unless you consider insulting rural voters to be ‘caring’.)
Yeah, for every one glassy eyed Obama supporter running around in circles screaming “Obama saves!” and voting on behalf of his 4 year old who can sense Obama’s caring aura, there are an equal number of Clinton supporters doing that in the universe that parallels ours.
Obama’s comments must be a further illumination of his definition of “typical”.
We saw all of the Obamatrons impulsively leap towards Obama. Watch for these same people to jump ship twice as fast each time Obama acquires a new case of insert-foot-in-mouth disease.
We speak the same language, and he still manage to create a lot of “misunderstanding” due to his “misstatement”.
What is he going to do when he deal with people who doesn’t speak the same language with his?
Imagine he’s speaking to the leader of South Korea or Japan. And he cracked his stupid joke or “misstatement”. They are not gonna be interested in him explaining himself using “that is not what I mean” craps.
I live in Boston and my friends don’t look down on small town American. Hell, most of us moved to Boston from a small town.
That said, when I see the Big Giant Obama signs in Cambridge - I do think -
Wow Obama is like an elites wet dream.
Obama’s statement offends me because it’s so ignorant. Why say it? Was he pandering to a small group of elites? Does he really think hard working people are ignorant - that they somehow don’t understand world? That religious people who are working hard to make ends meet are only religious because they don’t know better.
Did Obama miss the memo about hunting? Does he think these hard working families would be better off as vegans and PETA members? WTF?
Does he understand that supporting one’s self and family - is about food on the table and hoping to give your children a better life - that most middle class people care about healthcare, gas prices and education.
That the only goal most of us have is providing for yourself and family, staying healthy and educated.
The people Obama’s insulted aren’t dumb - they join churches and hunt as a way to pull together the small communities they live in. Regardless on what you think about religion - churches provide community and outreach.
I’m so pissed off - I don’t even know what my point is.
Maybe “black people will wake up” and figure out that he could give less than a dam about them either. As a Chicago Southsider, I know he could care less about the poor, lower class or middle class. He went down to Galesburg and ask those people who were about to loss there jobs for there votes and sold them out to the owners. But, don’t get happy, he will sprinkle his magic dust and worm his way out this one too. We have to push this issue in PA and Indiana. He’s just another John Kerry who did not marry as well.
>>> He’s just another John Kerry who did not marry as well.
Now THERE’s a mouthfullof Truth! Bravo!
I lived in SF for ten years, and now I live in LA, and never once have I thought the way Obama does about blue collar workers in middle America. I have family in Montana, and I always cherished my visits there. They certainly don’t have much, but I’ll tell you they have an amazing community, and they experience more joy than most liberal elites I know. The one thing I’ve learned from this election about myself is that I’m not a liberal elite. I don’t believe disenfranchising voters is OK. I don’t believe turning a blind eye to sexism is OK. I don’t believe condoning hate speech just because it benefits your candidate is OK. I don’t believe looking down on Americans that are less fortunate than you is OK. I don’t believe that calling Americans racist if they don’t vote for Obama is OK. I don’t believe sitting in a church that preaches hate against many Americans is OK.
The truth is I don’t know what I am anymore. I sure don’t feel like a Democrat, and I sure don’t feel like a liberal.
there is a difference between the Leftish liberals and the progressives (FDR)
perhaps you would feel welcome amongst the New Democrats? Check em out. Gore is one.
This is what has amazed me most about this election. I used to think I was out on the fringe and a liberal. Now as you can see I have found my home as a moderate.
Thanks for the tune, Jeralyn at TalkLeft reminded e yesterday that at the 2004 Democratic National Convention at which Kerry had Obama give his glorious speech
John Cougar Mellencamp played this LIVE
SMALL TOWN
FLAGS WAVING
What was Barack thinking seeing all these Dems cheer and sing for small towns? Was he in the corner snidely looking down his nose, with Michelle and a smirk, Kerry smirking back??
here is the youtube
check out all the Dems at this convention cheering for small town America and waving flags
from cspan coverage:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bnQOY65_SsA
If I went to IRReverend Wright’s church I might assume that all churchgoers were bitter too.
Great post, fleaflicker! Being from a small town, though just South of Chicago, so we visit the city often (yes, we hicks wander into the “Big City” just to see how the other side of the fence lives..;)) and our village is so small we don’t even have a population sign. When I was growing up, my dad and 3 brothers hunted all the time (though I personally hate guns and killing poor innocent animals, I do understand why people do it…for food and family tradition. Been there, done that.). I didn’t realize it was because they were bitter about life though, go figure.
Have you seen Jeralyn’s conference call blog over at TalkLeft? She blogged Hillary’s campaign conference call and MANY PA. Mayors chimed in on “Bittergate.” Let me just say, they are NOT happy campers!
Here’s a link if anyone wishes to read what they had to say about Mr. Hope’s comments:
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/4/12/142054/105
Thank you. That is a great liveblog. The Mayors are very upset and disappointed with Obama. That is for certain.
FleaFlicker
That tune is the first thing I thought of, when hearing of ST. BO making more “yellow snow”.
Cee used this one word for word…without citation.
“anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”
must be something in the koolaid.
BO;
What like the folks in the 313? They know it’s fixed and they also know who fixed it (or not)…in more ways than one. What “audacity” snow flakes have I been blessed with now?
So BO placed an add and it said “don’t have a lobbyist?…We can fix that…
That Obama thinks “the game is fixed”…then the “unity pony” has left the barn.
You know the one! That barn over yonder, with the doors BO left wide open. The one on the farm where grampa and grandma spent their entire lives providing the best they could. The barn that has seen generations, the salt of the earth Americans,scratching out a living from nothing but the dirt beneath them and the seeds of creativity?
Obama has the brains and sensitivity of a brass door knocker, that makes the sound of a Wood Pecker.
I agree with Hillary Clinton.
The Americans who live in small towns are optimistic, hardworking and resilient. They deserve a president who will respect them.”
talk to people,??? Talk WITH people. igit
“With” people? What a concept …. but he’d have to come down off that pedastel he’s put himself up on…
Hey, Larry, why not show his offensive follow up?
Oh, that’s right! All those rural white people in Indiana nodding their heads to his comments might make Hill-bot heads explode! Not to mention raising, again, Hill’s support for the bankruptcy bill!
Here is my prediction: next week, he will do a speech linking the inner-city dwellers with bars on their windows to rural gun owners and suburbanites upset about their mortgages!
Let’s face facts, Hillary fans! This is over, because she is playing checkers (badly) and he is playing chess!
So now let see what we have here.
We have a very polarizing woman who confabulates events and has her husband who defends her memory when he could not remember anything with Monica of even the definition of sex. They both are liars, simply put and are a political partnership. They also need some economic education.
We have a old man who gets confused sometimes who is a war hero.
But lastly we have a black elitist and likely racist himself who uses the excuse he did not know what was happening in his church and now makes remarks about working class people in PA. I dont want a president that ignorant of what is going on about him. He talks about Hope when it suits him and when the group suits him he tells what he really feels. Although certainly elegant at times, I think he and his wife are better suited for another country as he is a socialist with the idea of a living wage and she seems rather bitter herself. Maybe he preaches that Hope at home.
American deserves better than the above. It seems Obama so far has done more dividing of races than uniting as now I am beginning to see what many black people must feel and I am tired of trying to be understanding anymore. We have been taken for fools and it is time to wake up. Please black Americans stand up and protest this Churchthink Hiv paranoia but so far I cannot find any black that condemns everything that Wright said in the clips. Shame Shame.All I can get them to say is Blacks hate themselves and whites just dont get it. Well, I think it might be too stupid to get.
We need an education of history and social history and try to act on each others best interests but it seems many want to rule or destroy and blame others for their own problems. Get over it and I hope we get a better choice of presidents next go round.
Checkers? Chess? Is that what you clueless Obamabrats think this is all about?
Senator “I voted NO on the 30% cap for credit card interest” Obama is a fraud. He is a fake. A phony.
You want to talk about mortgages? Ask Little Lord Obama who HE chose as his Campaign Finance Chair. BWAHAHAHAHA! Go ahead. See for yourself. I’m not doing the work for you. It’s all there…just a “click” away. While you’re at it, why don’t you look up the TRUTH about the Maytag factory workers whose jobs were OUTSOURCED AFTER they placed their trust in Obama.
Educate yourself.
Fooj,
I’m certain you don’t know about Maggie. Educate yourself.
You know I read somewhere that people who use too many exclamation points all the time have temper control issues.
Funny . . . Taylor Marsh ALSO did not link to his follow up. Neither did Hugh Hewitt, or Instapundit or powerlineblog. So Larry is in good company in not showing the Obama response!
Dang, people! Even Michelle Malkin’s HotAir had the clip. What are you so afraid of?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc9PepjyDow
I know what you are afraid of. It is the man in the red “USMC” (that’s Marine Corps for you non-military types)shirt. Just watch his face as Obama talks.
It isn’t a matter of being afraid of anything. We just have a low bullshit tolerance and with Obama even reading a word or two from him fulfills my Maximum Daily Allowance. I ain’t into ODing on bullshit. I see what it does to you Cultists. Worse than Koolaid if you ask me.
B-Rob, you don’t just kiss Obama’s ass, you you go all out and French Kiss it don’t you!
And I don’t speak lightly of it either, this guy has continually spoken the truth when he is unscripted and when he does speak the truth when unscripted, the real light shines about him and his true beliefs!
He lied how many times over Rev Wright, NAFTA, Injecting the Race card, and yet you still believe in him!
Obama is a bitter weak man who can’t even figure out who he is and yet he claims to be able to being a country together, you are simply a person who proves that people cannot think rationally and subject themselves to a belief in false messiah’s for direction and life!
Boy, there must be more concern about the slur on the Pennsylvanians than we thought … when B-lob and the kiddies are out, there is usually trouble in Barackville. The interesting thing is that there is never a defense for insulting your voters, just trying to drag everyone else down with you.
Beebop,
Not at all. Your girl has taken some bait.
I’m rolling my eyes here.
It over it doesn’t matter anymore CNN says its no big deal and its Hillarys fault. And that she is a bitter bitch for going after him on it, and she’s trying to destory the party again.
Our media does not report the news the feel they have to create it.
They created Obama and there is nothing we can do about it. As Uppity said he could kill puppies and kittens on prime time TV and they would make excuses for him then blame Hillary for it.
Whew! Saved by the bell!
Or the tongue…
I predicted, on this blog, after the Iowa caucuses, that Senator Hope-A-Dope would shoot himself in the foot with his mouth by 15 April.
Was starting to fear I MIGHT have to pay off on that bet.
“Senator Hope-a-Dope”…OMG!
BWAHAHAHA!
Thanks, Fred. I needed that.
“Vote For Me, You Corncob-Smokin’, Banjo-Strokin’ Chicken-Chokin’ Cousin-Pokin’ Inbred Hillbilly Racist Morons”
That is the funniest thing (in a cringe-worthy and sad way) I’ve read in the entire primary season. Forget all the hours of MSM dissecting his inane comments — one need only read that sentence to get to the heart of the problem. Obama’s been caught, once again, tailoring his comments to his audience (that time was a uber-tony Marin County fundraiser), and no one has called him on it (well, we’ve all called him on it but the media ignored it.) He has made a habit of trashing one group, while pandering to another. He’s like that friend from high school that is always talking smack about your other friends when they leave the table, until you wonder what he says about you when you get up to get another milk. Yeah, like that.
Wow.. the wee ones must be a tad worried today, cuz they seem to be popping up everywhere, like mushrooms, today.
I’m thrilled that the opportunistic little prick is finally being shown for the lying, fraudulent imposter that he is.
He disgusts me.
Comments like this from Obama are the reason he will lose in states like NY. Hillary won upstate NY which is strongly Republican territory because she went to their diners, their union halls, their churches and schools. She met one on one with the voters and listened. She didn’t just give grandiose, vacuous speeches, she LISTENED and UNDERSTOOD. Obama will lose states like NY and PA because he has never UNDERSTOOD their needs and concerns, because he doesn’t LISTEN. The Goddess help this country if McCain is the next President because the DNC didn’t listen and cut this fiasco of an Obama nomination off st its knees.
Themom,
After she won, she screwed them over with her support for offshoring. They haven’t forgotten. Now they also know that she lied about NAFTA, and that Bill has taken 800 grand from the Colombians in the hope that he can push a new trade deal with them.
Hillary is not to be trusted.
I am FROM Upstate NY, where the politicians are so into each other’s pants, NOTHING can get done. They are all too busy taking care of each other, their friends and their relatives. Hillary Clinton is not the failure in Upstate NY. Upstate NY and Joe Bruno are the failures. Any senator in his or her right mind would find it impossible to deal with these thieves. And frankly, if it weren’t for the Native American concerns in Upstate, NY, the place would be an even bigger mess.
And I will tell you one more thing. Hillary would win Upstate NY and OBama would still be waiting for a vote.
So, it was in San Francisco. Just out of curiosity, has anyone determined whether the “neutral” Nancy Pelosi was at that meeting?
I don’t know if anyone’s pointed this out yet. We’re all just busy being rightfully offended on the one hand and happy that the idiot is his own worst enemy on the other. However, there’s a very important thing here: he just trashed his carefully cultivated anti-trade agreement position! He’s been so grovellingly trying to prove he’s against NAFTA and the proposed Columbia Free Trade agreement. Anybody notice? I mean once
the Obama-media shuffle off all of our concerns over what an ass this guy is, there will still remain the fact that he just showed he is in opposition (by implication) of his own position. Anyone feel like jumping on Obama today? The water’s fine…
I did notice that but felt that it deserved a diary unto itself. Not sure if I am the one going to write it though.
You’re best blog ever (and that’s saying some)
This Saturday was actually fun. Thanks Barry. CNN turned over their afternoon coverage to speeches by Hillary (in IND) and Bill (in NC) - while they waited to see what she’s say about Mr. Big City’s foot in small town mouth. … N.C. former Dem Com Chairmen got on air saying Super Del’s should think twice before they vote for a candidate whose just killed the vote in small town and rural states. . . . Hillary’s speech was perfectly located in Valparaiso, a town which lost its big factory to overseas 5 yrs ago . . the audience was full of men and one stood up and shouted ‘REAL MEN ARE FOR HILLARY”
Finally: as we know, barry-o has not apologized for WHAT he said, only ‘regrets’ how he said it. Daily Kos, very pro Obama website (check out site for details) is demanding that their candidate apologize or Daily Kos forescasts this outcome: all remaining states go for Hillary AND SuperDelegates are scared away from zerO, too.
God couldn’t have planned all this better (don’t mean Wright’s god.)
Just a repost of my take on Obama’s latest faux pas and my doubts about a Unity Ticket….
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/
Obama: Big Ego, Big Mouth, Big Troube = Unity Ticket??
Exerpt:
…Nothing like showing off your arrogance, superiority, and effete-ism to the well-heeled in San Francisco! (Is Nancy Pelosi cringing yet?) You also have to wonder how Obama squares his mention of religion with his own “clinging” to Rev. Wright for about 20 years.
John Edwards must be glad he has kept his powder dry over issuing an endorsement. Wife Elizabeth, of course, has come out with favorable comments about Clinton’s healthcare plans versus Obama’s which gives some insight into how the wheels might be turning in the Edwards camp.
But I do disagree with Elizabeth in her idea about a “Unity Ticket” even if it hints that Clinton should be at the top of it.
My thoughts are that Obama would drag such a ticket DOWN, because his weaknesses would continue to be prime fodder for the GOP and their 527’s, even surpassing Clinton’s. Sure, black voters may stay home, but not all of them. Some voters in largely black small towns and rural areas who have strong church ties might be insulted or, at the very least, confused by Obama’s statements. Or is he only talking about “white towns” in PA?
Of course, Obama’s comments add fuel to the Democratic Party’s problems with already shedding voters from the process in FL and MI, which Obama is helping perpetuate. The great “uniter” isn’t doing much uniting lately….
MORE on Condi Rice and Obama….
I grew up in a small town in WV. My father was a steel worker and I am old enough to remember the good years before Reagan began his war against organized labor. We went to church three times a week even during those good years. My neighbors always hunted and brought us deer meat.
What a jerk!
Ya got nothing. Keep grasping at straws.
Clinging to Guns
Top ten states the country, by percentage of gun ownership.
1. Wyoming 59.7%2.
Alaska 57.8%3.
Montana 57.7%4.
South Dakota 56.6%5.
West Virginia 55.4%6.
Mississippi 55.3%7.
Arkansas 55.3%8.
Idaho 55.3%9.
Alabama 51.7%10.
North Dakota 50.7%
Among the seven states on this list that have held primaries or caucuses so far, Obama has won 6; Clinton has won only her home state of Arkansas.
Here’s what preceded the passage jumped on by Clinton, McCain et al:
Here’s how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn’t buy it. And when it’s delivered by — it’s true that when it’s delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism.
Yeah, blame Obama for the climate change, and the insane terrorist connection story planted by Larry Johnson.
In the meantime, what about this story ON THIS LUCRATIVE INFLUENCE PEDDLING?
The Clinton-Colombia Connection: It Goes Back a Long WayPosted April 9, 2008 | 07:07 PM (EST)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/the-clinton-colombia-conn_b_95929.html
I live in rural central NY, Located between the Canandian border and Syracuse. I am a hick, but not a bitter hick.
The local General Electric plant closed in the 80’s. I know my husband lost his job in 1986. GM left, NVG is on the way out.. Former President Clinton and Senator Clinton are NOT the cause of all the job losses of this state or country. And I get damn tired of hearing it. Does anyone remember President Reagan. He fired air traffic controllers, he signed bills so companys could just close up overnight. Employers didnt have to pay into pensions anymore.
The Clintons didnt start the mess, but damn sure get a lot of blame for it.
Angca - Why do the wealthiest people on earth have to hunt poor defenceless animals ‘to feed their family’?
Hunting sucks.
Why do the wealthiest people on this earth have to have ALL the jobs? THe FTAs that are around give much more to USA than taking away bottom level manufacturing jobs. They open up the poorer countries financial & patent systems to USA firms.
My country has a FTA with USA. We had to fight to keep some very basic rights just so we coudl send agricultural products to USA.
Ps .I have found American products much crappier than the advertised quality.
Hunting sucks.
That is what the Plains Tribes said when the Buffalo disappeared.
The next time you need to eat to survive and the stores are all closed and gone; when the Grapes of Wrath has descended upon this land, you will need two things. A decent crossbow for procuring food with giving your position away, and a rifle for the same, when it doesn’t matter if someone within 3 miles hears you.
Humans = poor defenseless animals.
The “global corporate economy” is not about human rights. We are just “units” of measure.
American products much crappier than the advertised quality
Tell it to the Chinese buggers on the assembly line 20 hours a day.
ehemmmmm……..Soylent Green…….
Here’s what Obama really meant:
“I go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, no matter how much I spend or puff or lie, or how sexy I look, I can’t get those damn rubes and rednecks who are ruining the democratic party to vote for me. So it’s not surprising then that I get bitter, and I cling to my affluent Harvard-educated elitist condescending views of these voters as gun-toting boors or religious fanatics or racist bigots as a way to explain my frustrations about not getting those votes away from that lying bitch.”
My pet pig susie agees an she ain’t votin for that nogood libarill neither…
Obama fails to fathom the reason WHY his words were offensive. That part seems to have went totally over his head. Obama doesn’t seem to recognize that he said, essentially, that voters can not use their intellect, logic, or reasoning if they are unemployed or in other such straits, and that they turn to religion and guns because of their bitterness.
He seems to think that because a person could be out of work due to a factory closing, or the like, that such a person would not intelligently vote for a candidate but would rather vote for a candidate on a vague issue such as gay rights or gun rights, because Obama implied that the voter has become disenfranchised by the candidates and the process, or the voter had no belief that any of the candidates could bring change, so what the heck
well vote on gun rights, immigration, and so on.
Geesh oh pete I guess we people can not think straight, compartmentalize, or organize our thinking.
Recall that Eisenhower campaigned on change, most politicans do. It’s moot point, the change issue.
LBJ campaigned on peace in Vietnam and bringing the soldiers home.
Some politicians…One thing out of their mouths but with actions that show their words were but lies.
If obama stated he would do public financing and now he says errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr not so quick, that would make him a liar and a fraud, since this is economics.
Example, If a doctor told me, verbal committment, his fee was twenty dollars and then he went errrrrrrr its forty dollars, well that, too is a lie and fraud.
let’s see voters show their bitterness towards obama by voting hilary!
The events that have come to light over the latest BHO remarks sound again to me, very familiar of the same tactics used in Germany during Hitler’s rise to power and infamy. While in public, Hitler took great pains to present himself as the “every man,” who understood the struggles of the working class. He raged against the elite and promised “CHANGE” and a return to the good life for German workers. The massive rallies, with women “swooning” and men who were pulled to the “charismatic” Fuhrer because he spoke “as if I were the only one in the crowd,” sound eerily similar to reports coming out of the mouths of BHO supporters. However, what was NEVER reported to the German citizenry was, in private, Hitler met with the German aristocracy and heads of industry at Krupp Works and IG Farben, assuring them he would soon have the rabble proletariat under control. At these private meetings, he would collect money to assure his ascent to power, which he promised would be back in their pockets as soon as he was leader of Germany. Of all the promises made by Hitler, this promise was kept.
What promises are being made today at Billionaire’s Row? How are we being sold down the river? And, how can we make sure that the American people start to put all these pieces of the BHO puzzle together and realize what this man really is about? Let’s spread the word, stay strong in our convictions, and assure that we aren’t the ones who are “bamboozled.”
I too have thought similar things, as stated by Monica, in regards to Obama along the lines of how Hitler manipulated the masses, and of course Jim Jones…….
Ugh, the Krupps, what a several hundred history there. More than likely Without the Krupps there would not have been two world wars.
Quotations of Adolf Hitler
Adolf Hitler’s Third Reich 1933-1945 and World War II in the News
http://hitlernews.cloudworth.com/quotations-of-adolf-hitler.php
excerpts of Hitlers quotes
“The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force.”
“The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies, but would be ashamed to tell big lies. “.
““The great masses of people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. Especially if it is repeated over and over.”
“The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life.” - From Proclamation to the German Nation in Berlin, February 1, 1933 “…
And Obamas arrogance is easily seen in Obama’s own words
Campaign ‘08: The Radical Roots of Barack Obama
Destiny’s Child; Rolling Stone
Feb 22, 2007
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13390609/campaign_08_the_radical_roo%20ts_of_barack_obama/print
…”This kind of thing has its own effect, a ratcheting-up of the natural tendency of politicians to love themselves as much as the crowds do. In every politician, himself included, Obama says, there is “that ego-driven ambition that I want to be somebody. I want to be in front of the microphone, I want to be in front of the TV, I want to be the most important guy on the committee, I want it to be my bill.” You can see this cockiness seeping through. Asked at fund-raisers whether the new role he’s assumed is taking a toll on him, Obama waves it off: “Nah, I’m a thoroughbred.”"…
I was born in a small town. I still live in a small town, and I like it. But I saw this quote and all I could think was “Oh my God! I am a hillbilly!”
I can still remember my Gramma grabbing a chicken by the neck at twisting it’s neck. Then she wuld hand it on the clothes lie till it quit flapping. That was Sunday dinner. Gramma was a tough old hide.
Subject: Obama’s double standard on working class comments!
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TalkLeft reports:
Clinton now leads Obama statewide in delegates to the Nevada state convention!
More than 6,300 delegates participated Saturday, according to the Nevada Democratic Party. Clinton won 1,330 delegates from Clark County while Obama won 1,133 delegates.
Heading into Saturday, Obama had won the majority of the delegates in the state’s other 15 county conventions, 512 of 900. But Clinton’s win in Clark County, by far the state’s most populous county, gave her the lead statewide 1,718 to 1,645, for delegates to the May 17 state convention in Reno, where Nevada Democrats will select delegates to the national convention in Denver this August.
And, oh by the way, Obama not as innocent as he proclaims! It seems he’s used this rhetoric before…like 4 years ago on Charlie Rose Show!
In a 2004 appearance by Barack Obama on the Charlie Rose show in which he talks about the same issue of rural and working class Americans and the Democratic party. It’s from November 23rd, 2004, so just after Obama was first elected to the senate but a couple months before he was sworn in.
First, the politicians threw the poor to the wolves. The middle class noticed but did not care. Then, the politicians threw the blue collar workers to the wolves. The middle class noticed but did not care. Now, the middle class realizes that it is their jobs, homes, finances, etc. that are on the line, and they expect the politicians to care. If it weren’t so disgusting and sad ….
Obama’s class elitism has been evident for months. Whenever he talks about “ordinary people” he sure is not talking about himself. It’s very clear. He has not earned his way to the top - and working class folks know this. An adoring media has made him into a Hollywood candidate with no record and no ideas. Just s