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Florida Caller to C-Span Nails the Crux of Obama’s Offensive Remarks about Small-Town Pennsylvanians

This is a must-watch video clip from C-Span’s Washington Journal, this morning — via Truthtelling007’s YouTube page:

Truer words. This articulate caller gets the media’s mis-focus on his remarks. She gets what Obama was saying: that small-minded small-town Pennsylvanians are bigots. She also gets that his comments will do longterm damage to his candidacy (particularly if he’s the nominee in the general election).

For more on the longterm damage, see the comments of Mayor Steve Reed of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania yesterday on a conference call … and don’t miss the new “Photoshopped” poster of Barack Obama that is cropping up on all the conservative and rightwing blogs:

Image Hosted by ImageShack.usMayor Steve Reed, Harrisburg, PA, on yesterday’s conference call — and you can listen to the audio of the call that included a number of Pennsylvania mayors and National Campaign Co-chair and Fmr. Gov. Tom Vilsack):

Thanks very much, Mayor. Just for way of background, I’ve been the Mayor of Harrisburg now - I’m in my 27th year. Born and raised here in Pennsylvania. Born and raised in a small town as a matter of fact. The irony about Pennsylvania is that we really only have two large towns. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. Just about every other place could be classified as a small town or a borough, or a township, or whatever.

We happen to like our small town values. We think they’re the bedrock of the American values that have built this nation and the people of our towns embrace their religions out of faith, not out of bitterness or frustration.

I have found our small town citizens to be decent. They are hardworking. They are friendly. They are giving. They are caring. They are patriotic.

Frankly, they don’t deserve to be categorized as they were in the remarks made out in California. It’s a very unfortunate stereotype of the citizens of our towns in this state, and in every state across the nation, to have them unfairly categorized as they were.

Frankly, the remarks of Senator Obama lacked judgment. They lack understanding. Frankly the remarks are condescending, they are negative, they are hurtful. I found it to be most revealing of what the candidate really thinks of us.

And it’s telling to me that these remarks were made several thousand miles away from us at a very expensive fundraising campaign event in a very upscale location when he did not think that any of us were ever going to hear what he had to say.

All of this in my mind invites the question of what else does this candidate think about all of the different people who make up our rather diverse nation.

[Susan’s Note: Below, I have italicized the portions of Mayor Reed’s comments that were aired and discussed yesterday on Fox News’s election coverage.]

His remarks – I was listening to CNN last night with different commentators – Ed Rollins for example, and others and so forth – they are licking their chops.

This is perfect ammunition for them [the Republicans] to use in the fall campaign. They will eviscerate Senator Obama if he became the nominee with comments like this.

It will play all across America. Midwest, West, East, South. Frankly, I think they were ill advised remarks. They lacked judgment. And they’re condescending. And most of all, they are very divisive, which is in complete contrast to the rhetoric we hear from him at the public events when he knows the cameras are running.

I’m supporting Hillary Clinton. I do so without hesitation. Her roots are in Pennsylvania. She understands the people of this state. She understands small town values. She’d make a terrific president. She’ll bring us together.

Listen to the audio, and read the full transcript.

ALSO: Check out the responses by elected officials in West Virginia, Kentucky, Indiana, and Oregon, as well as the remarks of Hillary Clinton and her campaign.

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Comment by Patrick Henry | 2008-04-13 11:52:47

“SNOB”..Perfect..Another Interesting Relevant Article Susan…

“S.N.O.B.”=

Comment by Mary Jo Kopechne | 2008-04-13 13:18:09

Have you all seen these photos from the SF fund raiser? Puts the question “how wealthy were these people?” to rest. And the comments are pretty good.

Now THESE are the people to whom Obama can make fun of other people behind their backs!

http://tinyurl.com/5wnc3l

 

Comment by Nellie | 2008-04-13 14:09:35

S.N.O.B. = Snotty Nosed Obama Brat

 
 

Comment by beachnan | 2008-04-13 11:53:43

Barack Obama does not have a clue about middle America and the working class. I was born in a small town, and proud of it. This small town girl backs Hillary Clinton because she “gets it”.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-13 13:03:19

Hmmmmm……..Common Sense from an average voter….What a concept. This is indicative of why 2/3 of the traditional democratic base will not support OBAMESSIAH…Will not support a DNC Putzian leadership who is trying to rig this primary and is hell bent on POLITICAL SUICIDE….Common Sense, something that aint neccessarily given along with fancy diploma’s.

 

Comment by The Gringo's Wife | 2008-04-13 16:13:02

Barak Obama has spent the last twenty years of his life being indoctrinated by Reverend White about who and what “White America” is really all about. And this is who he is talking about here correct? After all, I suppose that his statement doesn’t apply to African Americans?

That is my question to Mr. Obama. Do blacks reach for guns, violence and religion out of bitterness?

(Does this does not described Reverend Wright perfectly?)

This is textbook “projection.” Something Mr. Obama has been doing from day one. He attacks Hillary by calling her “Bush-Lite” That is a low handed Bush-ism (You are either with us or you are against us — Clinton is not one of us he tells us, she is an enemy as bad as Bush. He lost me right there on the spot), one of many he has lobbed.

I have no doubt that what Mr. Obama said came straight from his heart. That these are his true feelings. That he is bitter. That his spirituality is really about trying to escape what appears to be (read his book) a lifelong bitterness.

And doesn’t he come across as bitter and most often than not, cynical? His jabs at others are always bordering on contempt but never short on ridicule?

Yes, I say we finally saw the man behind the mask. Even if only a very small glimpse. But the damage is, as always, the accumulation of events. Anyone who remembers Wright’s hatred and that Mr. Obama was a part of the hate for close to twenty years, can “jump the shark” (just for you MSM memes) and put the pieces of this bigger picture together.

Of course, what with all of the rehabilitating Mr. Obama is receiving at the hands of the MSM will soften the blow. My goodness. I heard Wolf once again Mention Mr. Obama’s “humble beginnings” in response to the accusation that perhaps Mr. Obama may in fact be an elitist. As if you have to be born that way! Is Oprah an elitist? What do you think?

I know humble beginnings. Mr. Obama has never known such. It was obvious by his words if not his history.

 
 

Comment by kenoshaMarge | 2008-04-13 11:55:52

That woman caller nails it! She’s taking no shit and taking no prisoners. The flim-flam man and his surrogates in the media ain’t spinning this woman. Damn it’s nice to know that there are people like her out there that aren’t fooled and won’t allow the media or Obama to spin her.

Comment by truthtelling007 | 2008-04-13 12:01:48

I think the sad thing, and it was sad to hear, was the Obama callers that followed her. They called her out of touch with reality. Now, how cult-like can you be when a caller like this woman nails whats wrong with the comment he made (even if you want to forgive him for it) and then have his supporter calls be filled with insults towards her.

Comment by Andy | 2008-04-13 12:07:22

Indeed sad but not unexpected from Obama’s mob/thug-like verbal attitute this whole campaign.

I think that’s why it is important this video clip gets as much exposure on the web as possible.

(This is an ordinary caller. Not a campaign person)

If you or anyone else have an outlet to expose this clip please do so.

Comment by truthtelling007 | 2008-04-13 21:25:32

Already I’m getting comments claiming she’s a Clinton supporter too. This buys into the idea Clinton is the root of all Obama’s problems. But unfortunately, she isn’t a Clinton supporter. I say unfortunate not because she should be, but because it undermines the comments of the projecting folks who are so secure in their omniscience about people’s motives.

This was an ordinary caller.

I watch Washington Journal every morning and have years and years of footage of average callers. But this woman leaped out of the ordinary because the Politico writer and the host were softballing the conversation.

CSPAN hosts are normally extraordinarily neutral (something to not only admire but to model) but this guy wasn’t doing that this morning. He kept the conversation focused on “bitter” instead of the rest of the comments.

 
 

Comment by kenoshaMarge | 2008-04-13 14:19:02

I believe that as more people see how Obama supporters act they will be repulsed by the Bushbotlike behavior.

Remember only a few years ago when Bush was riding high and saying anything against him or against his illegal war could get you attacked viciously, get your job threatened and other instances of bullying that have no place in a Democratic Society? Remember all that? Most of that was done by the cowards that scurried out late at night and scraped Bush/Cheney Bumper Stickers off their cars and now claim that they were always against invading Iraq. Yeah. Right.

Well take a good look at a large number of Obama supporters that behave in exactly the same way and tell me that they’re Democrats or Liberals or Progressives.

As for all the phonies inhabiting most of Left Blogistan go right ahead and shill for Obama. It’s your right. But please don’t call yourselves Progressives. Because you’re not. Fauxgressives, yes. Progressives, absolutely not!

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-13 17:59:21

 
 
 

Comment by s | 2008-04-13 12:10:21

AWESOME!!! This woman caller should get the gold star today! Yah!!!! Take THAT Bamaa-O !!!

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-13 12:24:41

Wait, the guy from CNN tried to tell her she didn’t understand Obama … he READ to her on the air to see if maybe she just didn’t understand that she was WRONG. So at least the callers were admittedly Obama supporters. CNN is supposed to honor the caller’s right to her opinion if nothing else!

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-13 13:06:00

Hard to do that and reconcile it to OBAMcCARTHY tactics that seem to prevail in the current climate.

 
 

Comment by fooj | 2008-04-13 13:21:31

flim-flam man

Perfect description!

 
 

Comment by katmandu | 2008-04-13 11:56:00

thank you for catching that clip

the woman on the phone sounds super smart — she needs to run for office

 

Comment by Uppity | 2008-04-13 11:59:00

“..not being able to unring this bell”. Love it!

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-04-13 12:12:22

aye… wonder if his cell phone is buzzing now!!!

Comment by Uppity | 2008-04-13 12:20:21

Hahahahahaha. Bzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-13 13:08:02

In the spirit of internet confessions…..I am Obama’s cell phone….Feel me….LOL

 
 
 
 

Comment by Andy | 2008-04-13 12:02:32

SusanUnPC: the caller is absolutely correct; the clip you posted yesterday with your sharp comments of what he was saying (that voters have extra layer of skeptisism with him b/c he is black and has a nontraditional name) point exactly to the same point
the caller is making.
And Obama’s pseudo-apology/explannation of what he said proves he didn’t and doesn’t get it.

 

Comment by B-Rob | 2008-04-13 12:07:12

Let me get this straight . . .

Ed Rendell says that some people in middle American won’t vote for a Black man, and you Hill supporters agree that that is a reason not to nominate Obama. Fine.

But this caller says that Obama was basically calling middle America “bigots”, which is, frankly, the same thing that Rendell implied. But since Obama supposedly said the same thing that Rendell implied, that, too, means Obama should not be the nominee? This makes SENSE to you people?

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-04-13 12:15:53

B-rob… I have read some of your other posts… I’m curious if you are “liturally disabled”… You don’t seem to be able to understand the written word… See Spot run. See Dick and Jane climb the hill. …hmmmmm how would you translate that???

Comment by B-Rob | 2008-04-13 13:14:42

You didn’t answer the question, of course. Not that I expected you to. Because I think even you can grasp the lunacy of Obama being disqualified for supposedly saying the same thing that Rendell “truthfully” said a few weeks ago. Hence changing the subject.

Comment by AJM | 2008-04-14 09:18:09

Basically, Obama said he despises a group of people who don’t vote for him. This is not going to help him win them over. So yeah, it’s a another reason he should not be the candidate.

Also, why was Obama equating both religion and racism as things that disturbed — bitter — people cling to?

 
 
 

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-13 12:28:47

B-lob:

Let us explain how voting works. The caller votes (anti caucus) in November. She is not voting for Senator Obama. She’s not the one who needs to do any ’splaining here to you or to Senator Obama. The convincin’ was up to him and he just blew it.

All of the Benneton just ran out of his campaign.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-13 13:10:43

B-Rob has missed his early dose of GOVT. ISSUE CRACK….The pipe is under the couch…..Light it…..Now inhale…..

 

Comment by B-Rob | 2008-04-13 13:16:49

She won’t be voting for Obama and there are probably tens of millions of other people who won’t vote for him, either. The problem for you Hill-backers is that the $109 million Bulletproof Queen of Tuzla has higher negatives than Obama, so even MORE people won’t be voting for her!

Comment by Mel | 2008-04-13 13:21:19

Bet you bought Obama’s book of lies too huh, remember the Kennedy airlift that brought Obama’s dad to America?……Oh wait, Obama’s dad was in America a year before the Kennedy’s got involved! But that wasn’t a lie, it was Hope huh……lol

Want some more kool aide? It is orange flavored to remind you of Florida, or you already forgot them?

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-13 13:37:37

Did you see today’s Rasmussen’s today Obama towel boy? NOT looooooking gooooooood!

 
 
 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-04-13 14:18:24

I believe it is one thing to acknowledge racism exits (Rendell).

It is quite another thing to intentionally exploit racial and cultural divides for political gain and in the same breath turn around and say it was someone else playing the those cards.

The caller was straight up salt of the earth, and was offended, as am I by the shear ignorance of the comment. Obama is NOT fast on his feet and not qualified to be the POTUS. Period.

If Obama wants to raise money from “what’s Rich”, so be it, but don’t play the “game is fixed” card while doing a politically stupid driveby, calling everyone else fustrated, bitter, weak bigots, who would use guns and religion as shelter from your delusionally prescribed “Gansta Paradise” reality.

Face it Barak, you don’t have a clue of “what’s is going on”.

Comment by B-Rob | 2008-04-13 14:53:09

I believe it is one thing to acknowledge racism exits

Did Rendell “acknowledge” racism, or did he give White voters the “OK” by telling them they were not alone in not wanting to vote for a Black man? Depends on where you sit. My Black professional coworkers read it the latter, which is why they will not vote for Hillary, no matter what. And don’t get me started on Gerry Ferraro’s b.s.

It is quite another thing to intentionally exploit racial and cultural divides for political gain and in the same breath turn around and say it was someone else playing the those cards.

I agree! And that is why Hillary lost her 75/25 lead among Black voters. They played the “muslim” card in Iowa, the “drug dealer” card in New Hampshire, and thought no Black people would notice or care about that b.s.? She alienated the most solid part of the base trying to make Obama “just another” Black candidate. After all, why else compare Obama, well funded a US Senator from a major state who had just won the first election of the nominating campaign, — why compare him to Jesse Jackson, a jack legged preacher who has never been elected to anything. Again, did you think Black people wouldn’t notice that?

The caller was straight up salt of the earth

The reality is you have no idea who that caller was. She could be a Florida GOPer consultant for all you know. It’s called “astroturf” — phony “grass roots” consternation bought and paid for by political consultants. Ever heard of it?

Comment by PMS | 2008-04-13 15:07:30

The reality is you have no idea who that caller was. She could be a Florida GOPer consultant for all you know. It’s called “astroturf” — phony “grass roots” consternation bought and paid for by political consultants. Ever heard of it?

B-Rob dost protest too much, methinks.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-13 15:29:29

Nope…..She was a democrat…How do we know this ? because the GOP wants OBAMESSIAH to be the candidate or have’nt you beenpaying attention…

 
 

Comment by JM | 2008-04-13 15:12:35

What difference does it make who the caller was? Her sentiments, as expressed, could be from almost any Democrat, Independent, or Republican from our rural culture. If she was some kind of plant, I don’t care. As a person with small town roots, she spoke to me, and for me.

 

Comment by ChrisXP | 2008-04-13 15:32:47

Did Rendell “acknowledge” racism, or did he give White voters the “OK” by telling them they were not alone in not wanting to vote for a Black man? Depends on where you sit. My Black professional coworkers read it the latter, which is why they will not vote for Hillary, no matter what.

Ever heard of black racists before? They really do exist, as I remember it growing up as an Asian-American in the South during the intergration period. People have to be taught to hate another due to race, and it’s truly pitiful seeing it from kindergardeners, even (as they imitate their parents to a “T”).

I’m over 40 now, and I see nothing much has changed. Blacks will vote on race (as well as Whites), and all I have to say is each makes their own hay out of it. The polarity need not exist, but it does, and it does because folks want to redefine it for what it isn’t — no matter what your background or race, racists exist, and they’ll vote based on their upbringing.

Comment by ca moderate | 2008-04-13 22:37:43

You show your ignorance about both the south and the DNC, maybe you have been in our elitist colony too long. First of all if you are a democrat is the south, you made a conscious decision not to be the a racist, look at the number of democrats that changed to republican in the 1960 after the Voting Right Act was passed. Those that changed parties in reaction to LBJ forcing the VRA through Congress did so because they did not support this legislation those that stayed did so because they believed in equal rights and the right for everyone to vote. As a southern, I am so sick of people assuming all southerners are racists. Get over yourself and find another place to spew your divisive language. You only reinforce Barry’s point.

 
 

Comment by JJ | 2008-04-13 15:36:46

Wow…I cannot believe Obama supporters continue the lies. Calling the Clintons and their supporters racists has turned off as many people as it turned on. Please, just stop.

Comment by chris | 2008-04-13 21:30:45

They can’t quit that, without calling them “racists” what else do they have?

 
 

Comment by bama_barrron | 2008-04-13 17:28:34

rbobberooni …. i may not know who the caller is ….

but i surely know who you are!
i vote to cast you off the island .

 
 
 

Comment by Ga6thDem | 2008-04-13 15:32:36

isn’t Obama himself conceding that he’s unelectable if small towns are full of bigots? Makes a lot of sense doesn’t it?

Comment by ChrisXP | 2008-04-13 15:35:52

isn’t Obama himself conceding that he’s unelectable if small towns are full of bigots? Makes a lot of sense doesn’t it?

And like racism up north, he does the classic: hide it behind closed doors thingee — he forgets bigots are everywhere, even in San Francisco (which residents he was pandering, too).

 
 

Comment by JM | 2008-04-13 16:24:08

How many miscues from Barack Obama followed by his corresponding “I could have said it better”, but the gist of what I said is true” retorts, are Americans going to have give Obama a pass on? Open your eyes and ears and not just your heart! You may want to believe his rhetoric, but Barack obviously doesn’t believe it himself.
You have the right hopes for America, but the wrong messenger.

 
 

Comment by SN | 2008-04-13 12:07:19

The caller said it best. But it’s important for people and the MSM to realize something that is going on here. Obama is trying to move this narrative to “I said something that is true”, and “if I offended people, I regret and apologize” — and I’m sure that next week, the narrative will move to “let’s move on. He has apologized already”. And by focussing on the first part of the phrase “bitter” — he might well succeed.

But as the caller rightly points out — this is not about the first phrase, (and to me) not even the second, but THE CONNECTION that the candidate is drawing between them which reflects deeply on his thinking about such issues and such voters. And how wrong he is about them.

And if I can say one more thing …

I listened to his entire speech at SFO, but the first two paragraphs that preceded his comments about bitter-people turning to guns, religion and antipathy toward others that are not like them are even more bizarre. He starts by saying that the MSM and others think his lack of success is becaues of race and then in the second paragraph proceeds to (with the audience laughing with him) say just that! Those first three paragraphs just show how cynical this candidate’s view of our system is, and how he’s intent on manipulation (considering the audience before whom he spoke those carefully considered words). I hear him wondering about how he is to appeal to people whom he quite so obviously does not understand — which is admirable perhaps — but quite obviously falling very short of where he needs to be if he needs to win the GE and govern when elected.

People all over the blogosphere and the MSM that are responding to this firestorm w/ comments about the Clinton campaign or her qualitifications are getting it SO wrong. This is about one candidate’s judgement, character and qualifications for the job.

 

Comment by jd | 2008-04-13 12:08:52

I heard that Pelosi and her lieutenant, Rep Miller were at that event.

The arrogant jerk will never apologize and he has not. It makes me sick really that Dems are so acared of AA voters that they have to keep their mouth shut.

He is calling them bigots as the woman said. He is calling them white bigots for not voting from him. His campaign did it several times already. They called Ohians “Archie Bunkers”.

Comment by Uppity | 2008-04-13 12:16:22

It takes a seasoned racist and bigot to project racism and bigotry on simply everyone else.

Just ask
Italians
Jews
Boatloads of offended women
“Typical White People”

and now, you can ask “Small Town America” as well.

Barry Obama is walking, festering hatrid.

Comment by Uppity | 2008-04-13 12:18:37

…make that “hatred”. The smoldering kind.

Comment by Nellie | 2008-04-13 12:45:02

Uppity,

You are soooo very right on! Mr. Unity keeps adding to the list of the divided Americans.

God, I do not reacll such a bitter primary season in 40 years. Does ANYONE HERE recall such a constant stream of vitriol?

Comment by Uppity | 2008-04-13 14:21:09

Actually I don’t think this primary was all that brutal. It’s just that Obama gets all prissy and pulls the race card if he is questioned. It does seem those days days are over for him now. He will be in the fetal position after PA.

 
 
 

Comment by B-Rob | 2008-04-13 12:26:11

Yup . . . which is why he won in Wyoming, Colorado, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Utah . . . those racial appeals to the overwhelming teeming hoards of Black voters.

You know the real problem both Hillary and McCain have with Obama? He, unlike them, is not about “fight fight fight” as a personality trait. He is taking some issue head on that Hillary’s micro-trend managing campaign simply doesn’t want to address.

Mark my words — at some point, Obama is going to give a speech that explains the underlying linkage of the anger in the rural areas with the bitterness and dispair in the inner cities . . . and how BOTH groups then turn around and blame each other (”the White man” and “affirmative action”), Hispanic immigrants, Jews, etc. He is talking issues head on (racism, class divisions, etc.)

Like making sausage, it ain’t pretty and it ain’t without blood. But the end product — moving ahead on seemingly intractable issues — will be worth the effort. Obama may not win the presidency (frankly, McCain, the most liberal GOPer in Washington may have it in the bag), but we will be better off in the long run because he, unlike the micro-trend managing Hillary campaign, spoke up.

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-13 12:37:45

I am fed up with “lessons from Obama.” There is not one aspect of his life or his lessons that apply to me either directly or indirectly.

I have seen enough. He’s never happy. He has had more benefits in life than anyone I know. He finds a way to still bitch and moan. Black daddy? JFK helped him. White mommy? Private Hawaii school. Biggot Granny? “Deluxe apartment in the sky.” Better educated than most Americans will ever see (where are those Harvard grades he doesn’t want anyone to see, by the way? Don’t you think they’re in a vault at the RNC?) “Picked” Chicago organizing over a lucrative private practice. Mansion courtesy of Rezko.

Let me tell you this. People like that woman in Florida are TIRED of hearing what’s wrong with her from a guy who has so many bellyaching stories and has gained so much from a nation and learned so damn little from her people.

 

Comment by mimi | 2008-04-13 12:47:36

Speeches, speeches and more speeches!!!

I don’t need lectures from Obama.

He’s not teaching school, asshole!

He’s a candidate for office and it’s his job to connect to the voters and he’s not doing that. As time goes on he’s turning off more and more voters and he and his supporters are trying to play it off as if this something that Hillary is doing to him. It’s her fault that he’s under this kind of scrutiny because she won’t get out of the race.

It’s time for the DNC, Obama and his supporters to realize that this stuff was going to crop up eventually. As a Hillary support, better now then later.

Comment by B-Rob | 2008-04-13 15:13:46

You are right about one thing. He is not teaching law school. He is trying to win a political campaign — something you Hill-bots know nothing about.

You know what I find funny? You people may think he is so “angry”, but no one else takes him that way. Could it be that it is YOU that are angry because, like the George H.W. Bush fans in 1992, just don’t understand why your establishment candidate is getting her arse kicked by a relative upstart. THAT is where the anger is, not on his side of the aisle!

it’s his job to connect to the voters and he’s not doing that

Funny . . . the more people hear him, the more they like him. What does that tell you? He was down more than 20 points in Pennsylvania and he will lose by no more than 5 — mark my words. Because even if people as so faux “offended” by his remarks, they ALL know a friend, a cousin or an uncle who fits into the “left behind and bitter” catagory he was talking about.

So the family in her Ohio “didn’t have $100 co-pay” story . . . they are not bitter or angry about what happened to their loved one? Hillary tours Allentown and did not meet ANYONE who was angry? That only means that (a) her audiance was a bunch of disproportionately peppy people, or (b) she did hear the anger and despair, but she is lying now for political reasons (surprise surprise), or (c) she wasn’t f*cking listening. Either way, it shows she is not ready for prime time if she doesn’t know what’s happening out here.

Comment by StatBabe | 2008-04-13 16:23:28

Funny . . . the more people hear him, the more they like him. What does that tell you?

That certainly wasn’t the case in New Hampshire where Obama ended up having his ass handed to him. If you feel so confident that “the more people hear him, the more they like him”, then why did your candidate fight re-votes in Michigan and Florida tooth and nail? The truth of the matter is that Hillary Clinton has performed BETTER among rank-and-file Democrats, particularly in states with primaries where there is MORE voter participation, while Obama has won states where the name of the state and the phrase “Democratic Party” will last be spoken in the same breath during the Democratic primary/caucus–states like Idaho, Wyoming, Utah–not exactly states with a high probability of voting Democrat either up or down the ticket. BTW, this is one voter who actually turned AWAY from Obama the more I saw of the man!

He was down more than 20 points in Pennsylvania and he will lose by no more than 5 — mark my words.

Oh, come off it, man! OF COURSE, Hillary was much further ahead at the outset, based on pure name recognition! Just as polls about the GE have little meaning at this point, so did polls that were taken before any campaigning really ensued in Pennsylvania. As to your “bet”, I would not bet the farm on that if I were you–there are a lot of gun toters and holy rollers in Pennsylvania that just might be offended by Obama’s characterization of their views. Also, if you had bothered to really track the polling, you would have discovered that Obama’s support has not changed much over the past 2 months–his numbers have fluctuated between 38% and 42% (and those fluctuations have actually gone BOTH ways over the past 2 months)–not exactly the massive “shift” that one would expect from the massive advertising blitz that the Obama campaign has launched in the state.

Because even if people as so faux “offended” by his remarks, they ALL know a friend, a cousin or an uncle who fits into the “left behind and bitter” catagory he was talking about.

You just don’t get it, do you? The insult was NOT directed toward those who are bitter and left behind–it was directed toward those whose views on guns, religion, immigration, and racial issues do not comport to the views of Senator “All-Knowing” Obama! That’s what happens when a liberal elitist who lives under the delusion that he KNOWS what is best for the poor, stupid masses tries to explain to his liberal elitist buddies why he cannot seem to convince these poor ignorant fools that he knows what is “best” for them.

Frankly, it was a damn stupid thing to say! As one who really does NOT want McBush to end up in the White House in 2009, I am VERY disturbed by this since it seems increasingly likely that Obama will be the Democratic nominee for president. I just hope that the arrogant fool gets a good dose of a reality check BEFORE he has his ass handed to him in the GE. Hillary has certainly made her share of mistakes (not the least of which is allowing Bill to campaign without total supervision), but I do not recall Hillary insulting entire blocks of voters as Obama has done here.

 
 
 

Comment by Mary Jo Kopechne | 2008-04-13 12:52:38

Obama didn’t win Colorado, or any place where the caucuses occurred when normal people have to work.

Cheap shot, really.

Totally undemocratic.

Not representational.

As to Wyoming, only the cattle, coyotes and bison got to the caucuses. Everyone else had to work.

Comment by B-Rob | 2008-04-13 15:29:48

More “non-working” people in Colorado voted for Obama than Hillary, which is why he won that state. More cattle and sheep voted for Obama in Wyoming than for Hillary. Which is why he won that state, too. You can make all the excuses you want, but she lost those “fly over” states because SHE THOUGHT THEY DIDN’T MATTER. Well guess what? That poor planning and miscalculation is why she will not be the nominee. If she can’t run a competent 50 state campaign in the primaries, why in the HELL would anyone think she could do that in the general?

But all this is beside the point. My real point is simple: in these states, which have practically no Black population, Obama waxed Hillary. He made it part of his strategy to get out and pursue the very White rural voters (people like his grandparents, as he often says) — the very people you Hill-bots are now claiming he so hates. Well if he supposedly “hates” them and thinks they are bigots and pursues them, what does that say about how Hillary feels about them? Did she think she had them in her pocket? Did she think they would, as Rendell said, “never vote for a Black man”? Obama proved them wrong, didn’t he?

His 4 to 1 delegate margins in those White rural congressional districts is why he is in the lead and why he has won 14 of the last 16 elections. Superior strategy, superior tactics, superior work ethic and superior message.

Lastly, the dismissive attitude toward the states you lost is VERY telling, characterwise. When Obama loses, he does not use the “sour grapes” excuse making. The other candidate, of course, does.

Comment by JM | 2008-04-13 15:41:44

You know what, in the scheme of presidential politics, they really DON”T matter. That is unfortunate, but true. The local Democrats in the solidly Republican western states should blame themselves for this since they obviously have not been able to convince their Republican and Independent neighbors to embrace the Democratic philosophy. What is the reason for this? Obviously, the Independents and Republicans don’t like what they see. The lesson here is for the Democrats to nudge a little closer to the belief’s of their neighbors, but the Democrat’s progressive orthodoxy prevents them from doing so.

The one thing the leftie Democrats have been able to accomplish though, is to take control of the Democratic caucuses which ultimately will lead to the Democratic defeat in the fall due to their inability to case orthodoxy aside and swallow a more moderate version of the Democratic creed. Holding the Democratic party hostage to the radical left is a very selfish, and self-serving thing to do.

 
 
 

Comment by Catriley | 2008-04-13 13:20:22

Obama doesn’t know jack shit about how I live, or about my family in the Midwest. How the hell did that guy become some sort of expert on how Americans think and feel?

I’m sorry but it’s just ludicrous for anyone to believe that he possesses any kind of understanding of others, when he doesn’t know who they hell HE is? Sorry Obama.. we DO “get you”, you’re a snob. When are you and Kerry going windsurfing?

Comment by JM | 2008-04-13 15:43:41

Or taking a trip to the next piano bar?

 
 

Comment by fooj | 2008-04-13 13:38:04

Obama is a coward. He has his minions do his fighting for him. If he was TRULY a man of integrity and honor, he would call off his pack of wolves and denounce their divisive and destructive behavior. He refuses to do that. Have you ever asked yourself why that is?

Sounds like Obama is the one who is bitter. Hard to understand why that would be…he hasn’t been “suppressed” by the “typical white person”, has he?

Here’s an excerpt from a Washington Post article…

Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race.

If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?

There you have it. BTW- you might want to read his book. Don’t miss the nifty little section which discusses the benefits of race-baiting.

He can’t have it both ways.

Comment by Uppity | 2008-04-13 14:05:20

There you have it. BTW- you might want to read his book. Don’t miss the nifty little section which discusses the benefits of race-baiting.

You can hear him read that segment aloud on youtube…along with some other interesting things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs

Comment by fooj | 2008-04-13 14:15:43

Thanks Uppity. You rock!

I listened to that yesterday and it made me want to hurl. Who the hell does this ratbastard think he is kidding?

 

Comment by waldenpond | 2008-04-13 19:15:57

That video is unfortunate. I was waiting for video of Obama in church to pop up while sitting through statements that would be controversial…. but I forgot about his book. The most interesting part to me was where he read his book and was talking about Sharpville and Hiroshima and then it switches to Wright going on about Sharpsville and Hiroshima. Ouch… this is going to be painful if the 527s can ever get organized.

 
 
 

Comment by Betty | 2008-04-13 14:02:27

Take Minnesota and Wisconsin off your list - I think there is a lot of buyers remorse going on up here.

 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-04-13 14:49:19

Mark my words — at some point, Obama is going …going.. gone…HOME

 

Comment by JJ | 2008-04-13 15:45:49

Well I live in CO and the reason Senator Obama won is because most of the caucus goers were rich, well heeled, elitists. Many elderly women were intimidated and many unable to attend on a cold, icy night. Many poor working Moms were unable to attend also. My caucus was in an upscale neighborhood, 80% of the homes in the half million category, and the rest, like mine, working class.

Funny thing though. In our small minority neighborhoods, Hillary won. Those neighborhoods are mostly African American and Latino. The leaders of our Hillary support group were African American. Pigeonholing people is a mistake and Senator Obama made that mistake. Senator Clinton jumped on it. That’s the way it works.

 
 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-13 14:00:33

“Queers” will be up next….Oh wait!…..Meeks….Right.

Comment by B-Rob | 2008-04-13 15:34:26

Yeah. Right. Sure.

http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_id53285.asp

Do you Hill-bots ever get tired of being so wrong?

 
 
 

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-04-13 12:24:15

It’d be great if we could prove that.

 

Comment by sjc-tx | 2008-04-13 12:25:17

What about the AA voters who DO NOT want him???

 

Comment by JoeySky | 2008-04-13 12:26:01

Pelosi was at the event? do you have a link to that?

Comment by jd | 2008-04-13 12:32:59

there was a video shot of Miller but I did not see Pelosi altho my friend in SF said she was there. Gordon Getty is a repub but he bank-rolled Dems alot including Pelosi, Newsome etc…I am trying to find the video or camera shots.

Pelosi helped organize that event for sure.

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-13 12:41:29

The Newsome Obama will not be photographed with?

Comment by jd | 2008-04-13 12:57:11

Yes, Gavin Newsome the mayor. Getty helped Newsome start new biz, 11 of them and counting. Newsome don’t like Bambi tho.

 
 
 
 

Comment by B-Rob | 2008-04-13 12:39:28

“It makes me sick really that Dems are so acared of AA voters that they have to keep their mouth shut.”

Hillary has worked very hard to make sure that the Black voters understand that, as far as she, Ed Rendell, and Gerry Ferraro are concerned, Black people need to shut up, eat their chicken dinners and vote for her like they “should” given “everything” she has done for them. Good to see your post, since it reinforces that same message: the Dems should not be “scared” of pissing off their base because Black people will ALWAYS vote Dem. Nice to see you be so open about taking Black voters for granted.

As an Obama Republican who registered R. in 2000 because I like John McCain, I am happy to see that Hillary, if nominated, may undo 40 years of Blacks voting a nonsensical straight “D” ticket, even if a racist like Tom Metzger is running as a Dem. (Look it up if you don’t know what I am talking about.) She and her campaign have made their lack of respect for Black voters VERY CLEAR. And if only I can convince my Black professional friends to vote McCain if Hill is the nominee and send a REAL MESSAGE to the Dems, as opposed to the less clear message if they just don’t vote.

You Hillbackers simply do not understand the growing hatred there is for HC in the Black community. (Ask Stephanie Tubbs Jones about it!) Mark my words — if Hillary is the nominee and McCain choses Colin Powell as his VP, the most inportant question in November will be whether it is appropriate to make the entire White House into a Budweiser distributorship.

Comment by beebop | 2008-04-13 12:43:59

Oh. So racism is just a dish from “typical white people” served cold, is that it?

You make me ill. You are the reason that the woman in Florida won’t vote for your guy. She is tired of spin and being told that deep in that heart of hers she is a racist.

Maybe he (and you) can get a job at Trinity.

Comment by ritamary | 2008-04-13 15:36:04

beebop, I get the impression that B-Rob is white, so I doubt if Trinity would hire him. And he admits he was at one time a registered Republican! Not a good recommendation for anyone who wants any kind of political job in Chicago.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-04-13 19:23:13

I think GOP cult deprograming might be in order…. and then follow with lessons in diversity….World religions….Women’s studies…FDR and the progressive movement…..Etc…we can bring you up to speed…But B-rob you’ll have to put down that pipe.

 
 
 

Comment by Janis | 2008-04-13 12:49:47

Hillary has worked very hard to make sure that the Black voters understand that … Black people need to shut up, eat their chicken dinners and vote for her like they “should” given “everything” she has done for them.

And why the hell shouldn’t she? What has Obama EVER done for the black community other than sit in a church he plainly feels no emotional connection to for two decades and cozy up to a slumlord?! What has that man EVER done for his community? What the hell has the black community to thank him for anyway?

It’s not a matter of gratitude and ass-kissing some white woman, damn it. It’s matter of recognizing who’s there for you when the chips are down and who isn̵