Howard Dean Can’t Take the Suspense
By NoQuarter on April 17, 2008 at 7:01 PM in Barack Obama, DNC, Florida, Howard Dean, Michigan, Superdelegates
… and Howard Dean can’t stand democracy. Dr. Dean also apparently doesn’t care what the voters of Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Indiana, West Virginia, Oregon, and Puerto Rico, among others, have to say about the nominee in their upcoming primaries:
(CNN)— An increasingly firm Howard Dean told CNN again Thursday that he needs superdelegates to say who they’re for – and “I need them to say who they’re for starting now.”
“We cannot give up two or three months of active campaigning and healing time,” the Democratic National Committee Chairman told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “We’ve got to know who our nominee is.” …
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If you missed it, read DCMediaGirl’s recent post here, “Howard Dean, Savior.”
just sent him an email and will call
they really keep pushing
Im sending more money to Hill
Ive said it before, but it’s worth saying again:
Every time Dean opens his mouth I hear an Independent get their wings-
Dean is like Raglan ordering the Light Brigade to skirmish with the Russian gunners on the causway Heights.
Kos is like meat headed Captain Nolan:
“there are your Guns sir there is your enemy!”
Lucan is Matthews encouraging Cardigan/Obama to charge the guns…the wrong guns, the ones down the Valley.
Obama heads of into the Valley of Death and destroys his own Brigade.
Cargidan survived unscathed and went back to his Yacht for champaign, but he lost 2 thirds of his men and horses.
One of the surving cavalry tyroopers was heard to say:
“Shall we have another go sir?”
yes!
and who will ride back?
not the six hundred!
who will be left?
Pelosi Dean Kerry Kennedy Dashle Hart Bradley
half of them have already faced GE cannons and LOST
if only they would get their cannon fodder axses out of the way so a Clinton can win this thing
yes you are perfect. I hear an Independent get their wings…that’s me.
Yeah lets just screw everyone not just FL and MI.
Dean can go fuck himself.
Thats how I respond to his emails.
Oh and thanks for the contact email for the DNC. I wrote them a note.
Mr. Dean,
It is bad enough that you don’t care what voters in FL and MI have to say, but to want to blow off the remaining primaries so Sen. Obama can win is very wrong. After you and Sen. Obama made sure that Florida didn’t matter I changed my party affiliation to Independent. I will either vote for Sen. Clinton if she’s the nominee or write in Sen. Clinton if she’s not. YOU ARE DAMAGING THE PARTY NOT THE PROCESS.
i told the good doctor to get out our way.
Obama must have contacted Howard Dean to say he is getting antsy. So the Democratic Party’s worst candidate collars the Democratic Party’s worst party chair to say he wants it over now. Does Howard Dean think these tactics are going to bring us all together? Howard you screwed two major states and now you want to screw 10 million people out of their votes to put Obama in. All you have to do is wait and Obama will not be the nominee. Oh I see, the sole purpose of all this pushing is to make Obama the nominee. I get it — and so do millions of Democrats. I hope and pray that Hillary Clinton runs as an Independent to screw Obama out of the presidency.
Dr. Dean wants to lead the party to crashing defeat. It’s his way.
Dean the UBERPUTZ apparently has no patience for DEMOCRACY…Sent him and Donna an e-mail telling them to butt out.
I think he’s so scared of the BOBO the clown crowd that he has the screaming shits. Who knows what kind of terror the good folks in Denver are starting to feel? Anyone can see what the Bobo brats are doing — rattling their sabres — he’s probably convinced that if he f-cks Hillary out of this, there will be sufficient “healing” — i.e. Hillary’s supporters will forgive and forget. He knows that we are not the “burn baby burn” types. So we aren’t the ones who need to be placated. It also gives him time to recover his bowels.
Yep…I’d say he’s wearing a double diaper.
beebop — well Howard Dean is wrong. We are not as childish and stupid as the Obamabots however, we will never forget what Dean has done to our candidate and our party.
Coward Dean is having a panic attack. He knows that people hear names like Ayers on the air. He knows PA is going to crush Obama. His is scared. What makes you think he isn’t threatened too? I mean let’s face it,these people are vile. Coward Dean is afraid. He wants to annoint Obama so that the remaining voters won’t put him where he belongs instead. There is no way to spin damage control on this, so he wants to put it away for Obama. I am sure they have done some polling already. I think he knows OBama would lose but he wants to be the Pontius Pilate and wash his hands. Fear is a horrible thing. I will tell you this, a riot over Obama today is far better than what we will incur with this man in the white house. You can see the way he is thugging his way into this nomination. Very telling. You saw his face last night, did you not? Is this a man you want angry in the white house????
You are correct and it makes me spittin mad….
A riot over Obama?
Children throwing a tantrum?
How quaint.
Time for some perspective, here.
Don’t get yourself Simon. The Children aren’t the Organizers. They are just the pucks. There are plenty more “adult” people behind all of this.
are you deaf or what? you don’t think there won’te riots in the aa community or in denver if precious doesn’t get the nomination? please! and do you think that joe sixpack will vote for this dude? heck no!
Too Many Gods, creating to many men, in to many of their own image.
Uppity; what I saw was a sad, broken, angry man who was dripping misogynistic contempt, for anything he can not covet.
Why he didn’t have all the states have their primary on the same day? If it’s so f**king important that we need to know the result now.
Did you notice that he crawl out of his bat cave a day to pressure the superD after his golden boy did badly in the debate last night? wtf with that.
They are afraid a flood gate will open with more Obama crap washing ashore.
uhhhhh …. November? They still remember what November is right? I mean, there hasn’t been a Democratic winner since the other Clinton, but that shouldn’t be so far in the past that no one remembers WINNING a presidential election, right?
Let the flood gates open and let the truth come out. No one is fooled by what’s going on. Hillary is very serene — therefore, she knows what she is going to do. GO HILL GIVE EM HELL
I think guys like Kerry know it’s over for Obama, understand he will never, can never win the White House.
Narcissistic men can’t admit mistakes, they would rather see the party lose, than admit they were wrong, I see the same thing in the republicans, and the war, ie, they would rather the US fall, than admit they were wrong, and can’t do the job.
I wouldn’t expect any change from the bots, but it sure is interesting watching them spin round and round, trying to get out of this mess, while salvaging some dignity.
Everyone is laughing at you, Obama, and you know, Obama can’t handle it, a typical narcissistic rage, knowing others see him as an incompetent idiot.
Same with Obama’s general, and support teams.
The sound you hear in the background is a flushing toilet. He does know whether to vomit or sit on the porcelin.
I think we need a new name for the party. Dean needs to look up the definition of “democracy.” My dictionary defines it as “Government exercised either directly by the people or through elected representatives.” His definition is “by the DNC and before some of the votes are counted.”
Jeeeeezus….I wish a grown up would just get him outta there….
Your claim here is very unfair to Dr. Dean, Susan. You deliberately left out this part of the CNN article:
(Emphasis mine.)
I quit reading TPM and Daily Kos because I wanted to get away from this type of misleading stuff, period — I didn’t come to No Quarter to see if my fellow Hillary supporters can do it, too. We’re supposed to be better than that.
I disagree with you on that one. H should not be pressuring the SD’s before the primaries. This is manipulation. His nuetrality as well as Donnas are fictions.
Sorry but Dean is so neutral he didn’t vote in the Vermont primary.
Well it isn’t as if he needed to worry who vermont would pick. They are so left their voting booths are located at the edge of cliffs. I don’t think he needed to worry about his vote hurting anyone.
lololol
Did you make that up or is it for real? If it is real then Dean is an even worse party chair than I already thought. What kind of imbicile doesn’t vote in the primary of the party he is the supposed leader of? All the OTHER races on the ballot are of extreme importance. In many cases the primary is the actual election. He may not have voted but he sure as hell isn’t neutral. Him and his committee rigged this freaking election.
Come on. That’s an afterthought he tosses in to make it SEEM like he’s being fair to both candidates.
But what he REALLY wants and thinks is in the first two paragraphs.
(I greatly appreciate your interest in fair reporting, but if you use the link I provided for his name at the top of the story, you’ll see that he has repeatedly tried to force a fast end to the race for quite some time, despite a huge outpouring from those who want the primaries to continue, and to matter. And you’ll see that we have covered his public remarks extensively here.)
Again, your mind reading powers are wasted here. This is called “confirmation bias”: a tendency to search for or interpret new information in a way that confirms one’s preconceptions. You have absolutely no way to tell that the statement is an afterthought, but it plugs in perfectly to your He-Man Howard Haters Club meme.
i read that article today, too. obamaites never have an original thought.
I would have to disagree.
Given Dean’s bias, the disenfranchisement of both FL, and MI, his NOT calling Obama on his anti-democratic, reprehensible tactics, and his personal problems with the Clinton camp, it would appear he is very partisan.
Either that, or he’s a total idiot.
Which do you think it is?
A good leader would have resolved FL and MI, as it is , those states are lost to the democrats, without a Clitnon candidacy.
And the 50 state strategy won’t carry the election for Obama, that is wishful thinking.
He has to be about the poorest leader of the DNC I have ever seen, a “heck of a job brownie.”
And maybe, BSG, you should look at your own bias.
A Northerner who screams, “YEEEEEE HAAAAAW!!” in Iowa, thinking it’ll make him fit in with the locals, is NUTS! Forget being a simple village idiot!
Have a pic I did made in 2004 about Dean, maybe it’s time to dig it up again……
Ehemmmm……..HOWL……LOL
heck of a job, barry!
Well that’s double talk! You say you won’t tell them to end their run and at the same time you pressure superdelegates to choose a candidate. Come on! It’s Duckspeak! “Keep running, Hillary but you already lost before anybody votes because we picked the candidate already”.
Orwell anyone ?
yes, he just got the year wrong (i repeat myself, but i’m old, as obamaites keep telling me).
yeah lifelong…I’m old too. and I’m leaving too.
He’s not treating Hillary fairly. He should not pressure Super D to decide now. And Dean doesn’t follow the rules on this one. The rules say Super D decide at the convention. Not now, not at the end of the primary. At the convention.!
I’ll bet Dean the Putz wishes democrats coldn’t get hold of those pesky rules books…
I find nothing misleading.Telling the super delegates what to do is why people are upset. Dean stating the obvious about when candidates should pull out of the race is trivial and obvious. The quotes are not taken out of context at all.
Donald — Howard Dean is talking out of both sides of his mouth. He wants to remain neutral thats why he refuses to count the votes of 2 major states which are needed by the Democratic Party to win in November. He wants the SD’s to declare now so he can declare a winner with 10 million people still waiting to vote.
Donald — wake up and smell the coffee.
I saw a similar and longer version posted at TM. In that version Dean actually seemed to be saying that it was important to finish the primaries and then have SDs come forward. I think it is important to have a correct take. There was also comment that Dean did not look physically well. Does anyone know if union members from FL are still picketing national DNC hq? What happened in MI today? I understand there was to be a march at the capitol. I think Dean has done a terrible job but I don’t want to paint him with damaging words he did not say.
Dean didnt ‘happen’ to come out TODAY with the words
‘I need the SDs to start deciding NOW’
his golden boy got beat last night and they are running scared of PA and beyond…they don’t want it to be quite SO obvious as they hand the nomination over to Barry to keep Clinton out
they know they cant win a GE with Barry, they have to know by now..
I think they are very mistaken in assuming they will get down ticket voters to keep a handle on Congress
they will have really depressed turnout with supporters of the superior candidate, who don’t take kindly to this bullying and disenfranchising behavior
myself, I’ll go to the polls and stick it to the man, I am after all, bitter
and after this primary season I am no longer sure who The Man is, use to be the GOP, now it looks like it’s my own party..
up i’m bitter also, but i am bittr with dean, brazile, kerry, kennedy, pelosi, reid and the dnc. i have no faith in them and understand why they have lower poll numbers than bush.
when you start with that Dr. Dean bullcrap you give your bias away. Nice try.
What a WATB!
Ironically, Superdelegates were put into place to avoid another McGovern travesty. And now they are not doing their job.
Howard Dean is a big fat loser. Who appointed him as head of DNC anyway?
He needs to resign because he is doing a terrible job.
Can Dean be impeached for incompetence ? Just askin..I mean he’s already being sued.
The liberal bloggers who have trashed Hillary and now say she is not a Democrat are responsibile for bringing us Howard Dean.
So true…..
It’s difficult to tell who is being trolled, I wouldn’t bite on anything.
After a certain point, the game becomes a little more complex than your nearest sports metaphor, but don’t tell Obama, or Bush’s people, they get confused, so easliy.
I missed that part. When questioned by Wolf whether they should vote based on number of states won, delegates, etc. he responded that they should vote their conscience, that is what they are called upon to do. I thought for once he hadn’t stuck his foot in his mouth.
He’s referring to the 2-3 months between Puerto Rico and the convention, not to forgo the remaining contests. Otherwise his comment makes no sense — there are only about 6 weeks left until the last primary.
He has talked about this before. Everyone should get their vote, but after PR let’s wrap it up ASAP.
That would be nice but not what he said.
“I need them to say who they’re for starting now.”
Deany Baby
Starting now. Not ending now. Starting.
Again, what 2-3 months is he referring to if not the ones between June and August? That comment makes absolutely no sense if you interpret it the way you want to.
Yeah…He’s trying to scew the primaries….Mind fuck the Sd’s…Dean is a putz.
You know, I see these moose try to project power, but they are the STUPIDEST men I have ever seen, unable to back it up with anything but narcissism.
They keep losing, but they simply cannot figure it out.
Dr. Dean should be sued for malpractice
I don’t think you are being fair to Susan, Donald. It is impossible to interpret Dean’s comments any other way than as an attempt to close the primary before the states have voted. Saying: “I need them to say who they are for NOW” –undermines anything else he may have said, however reasonable. The superdelegates have the right to wait it out. Nowhere in the rules does it say they have to say at any time before the convention. It is just another disingenuous attempt to try to close the nomination early – this from the guy who punished FL and MI from stepping ahead in line.
If the “line” doesn’t count, why are they being punished for stepping out of line? And if the “line” does count, why is Dean trying to cut it short? If there is damage to the Dem Party if the primary runs this long, then why are these primaries scheduled this late? The question is, is the DNC going to follow its rules or not? Seems they follow the ones they want and ignore the rest and we all know why.
And of all times to make this statement – the day after the first real GE test of a BO candidacy, and BO fails?
Stupid is as stupid does.
Well said, suskin.
I really think he’s on crack. He throws out any chance of winning FL and MI while giving IA, NH, and SC a pass for moving up their primaries in violation of party rules. And now he’s like “we don’t need to know what the rest of the people want, we just need Barry.”
Not surprised. Dean and crew would disenfranchise millions of voters. What other crooked Tammany Hall trick he could push is just icing on the cake.
The Democrat party doesn’t even have to worry about the GOP, the DNC leadership just hands the keys to the bloody shirts, with a smile.
And we wonder about corrupt elections in other countries? Heck, we don’t have to go outside our borders to see the most corrupt political leadership since the 19th century.
Are Dems going to simply take it because the party said so? Or are you going to bang the DNC door down and demand your leadership plays by the rules??!!
Dean looked exhausted, didn’t he?
I wish I had the real inside scoop of the dnc problems.
I would like to think stuff happened that was out of his control
and he’s trying to resolve things ethically.
It just seems like everything is being done to make
Obama the candidate.
Here’s the DNC problem
NO ONE IS GIVING THEM MONEY!
Supporters are contributing to the candidates directly instead of to the party. Get one of the candidates to drop out and their supporters will contribute to the party not the other candidate.
There is a big flaw in that logic.
If he pushed Hillary to drop, her supporters will not donate money to the party. He will just simply close those taps permanently.
not a chance. if they pull this crap, they will get nothing from half the democrats in the country.
i’ve repeatedly told them, every time i get a money solicitation, that they will get zero from me. they’ve gone far enough that it doesn’t matter to me any more what they do - they will never get a dime. my money goes to good candidates only.
the dnc can fuck itself.
Unfortunately, I think they may be pissing just the people that donate money to the party. I know my whole family usually does and we have shut that tap off.
Everytime I get a fund raising email from the DNC, I tell them,” not until FL and MI are counted”. If they short circuit the process, I will leave the party. One of the core Democratic principles is voter rights. If Dean insists on disenfranchising millions of voters and nominating an illegitimate candidate, leaving will be easy. I don’t think they could call themselves Democrats anymore.
Howie wants superdelegates to decide because the longer the primary season goes on, the more likely superdelegates will find a reason to choose Hillary instead of his Chosen One, like Precious’ abysmal performance at last night’s debate.
He’s also trying to manipulate the voters in the upcoming primaries.
The second Dean gives Obama the nomination, I re-register as an Independent and wash my hands of the Democrat party.
I’m not some far leftist loser who agrees with “God Damn America”, that whites are the root of all evil and that Americans are bitter, xenophobic gun nuts who believe in fairy tales.
I’m not bitter.
I’m pissed off!
I’m pissed off at the way Obama and his DailyKos bastards are tearing America down!
OxyCon — If Howard Dean hands Obama the nomination I am done with the Democratic Party too. Seems that Dean and his 50 state strategy has bankrupted the party. But I have to wonder who is behind Obama that had Dean intimidated. This is all so sick.
Hey Howard,
I thought you and Donna were saying that rules were rules, that Michigan and Florida voters should just stuff it, and take it on the chin.
Didn’t your rules also set the primaries till June 10th and the CONVENTION for August?
What happened to those roolz??
You want a speedy determination?? Count Michigan and Florida in. That would work out lots of wrinkles in the process.
Howard makes up rules that suit him and the script he wrote.
What a pathetic jerk ! They are scared Bambi will be exposed as a fraud. Lies after lies after lies.
I’m wondering what the definition of a “deanocracy” is. Is it a political system based on total inefficiency and puffing of the cheeks and blowing hot air? Can such a government survive? Surely it must crumble. That said, I can’t believe the superdelegates would bother listening to him. Isn’t Dean, of all people in this matter, truly a moot issue? I can hardly seem him as the poster child for moral suasion. Nor his sidekick the homophobe Brazile.
Brazile is not a homophobe. I believe I recall hearing her state on one of the Sunday talking head shows (Stephanapolous, I think) that she is in fact a lesbian.
That being said, Dean is indeed a total buffoon and the “neutral” Brazile is obviously a card carrying disciple of The Messiah.
LOL….Fed up do you think she has her special OBAMESSIAH patch sewed to her bra ? She’ll switch to the Brown shirt at the convention.
As a lesbian, does she not consider that she is voting not in her own best interests? I do not know one single gay person who is supporting Obama. They feel that he has not even so much as mentioned any support for them, and that his odd religious background suggests homophobia. Obama has certainly done nothing to dispel those thoughts either.
My kid and I live in an old predominatly “Gay” neighborhood in our city….Hillary signs were everywhere. Overwhelming support for her.
I am of the mindset that people’s sexual orientation is their own business and Donna has never stated publicly that she is a lesbian.
Having said that, she is on record as opposing the comparison of LGBT rights with AA and civil rights. I found several interesting references to email — the woman should drop her Blackberry subscription since it is NOT her friend — that she has sent that makes that abundantly clear. Odonna will probably grow uncharacteristially civil for the balance of the “campaign.” She should. But. As I have pointed out here time and time again, having Odonna on your side is not an endorsement most winners want. Don’t ask her to pick your ponies for ya!
I agree with you….It shouldn’t matter unless you are a FOLEY and a complete HYPOCRITE….I’m not judgin’…I’m just sayin’
I think she did. On CNN.
Of COURSE it doesn’t matter what your sexual orientation is, and of course it is personal. However, in selecting who you vote for as President, it does matter a lot. This is a position that is keey to the unlocking (or locking) of rights. This is a position where opinion rolls downhill, as do votes sometimes. So in that context, it does matter.
Donna Brazile said that including equating the gay movement to the black movement is “an affront to the civil rights movement”. I don’t know what her sexuality is, but she is definitely not a supporter of euqal rights.
Food for thought:
Democratic Convention: August 25-28
GOP Convention: September 1-4
OK, I am going to mark this really simple. Don’t you think GOP is going to have two huge rows of Michigan and Florida delegates complete with balloons and fanfare? They may even take the stage with McCain.
Good luck working against that image, Howard!!
ghost2, i love it!!! i think they should give them a special section, stage presence, a featured speaker, sing them a special song (something dedicated to dean).
maybe they will call out for the disillusioned Dems to join them
-shudder-
sadly, that fool obama and his puppy dean (or is the other way around?) are deluding themselves with the idiotic idea that they can win michigan and florida…maybe they had just a little bit too much cocaine?