Hillary Demonstrates How Mature Candidates Handle Pressure + Clearer Video of Obama Giving Her the Finger [Update]
By SusanUnPC on April 18, 2008 at 10:20 AM in ABC News, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Hoodwinking, Pennsylvania
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Clinton: “When the Going Gets Tough You Can’t Run Away”
(Time magazine’s blog top headline)
“We need a president who is going to be up there fighting every day for the American people and not complain about how much pressure there is, and how hard the questions are.”
| THIS is how a mature, seasoned, ready-from-day-one candidate speaks about the difficulties of campaigning.
Via Time magazine’s The Page blog. From Hillary’s interview today on the Fox 29 morning show in Philadelphia. Read more, including the quotes below: |
HRC: We were both asked some pretty tough questions and that’s part of what happens in a debate and in a campaign. And I know he spent all day yesterday complaining about the hard questions he was asked. Being asked tough questions in a debate is nothing like the pressures you face inside the White House.
In fact, when the going gets tough, you just can’t walk away because we’re going to have some very tough decisions that we have to make. I think we need a president who can take whatever comes your way. You have to stand strong; you have to fight for the American people – because it will not be easy to stand up against the special interests.
Q: So you were fine with the debate, did you see any problem with it?
HRC: Well, can I say that I’ve been through, what 23 of these debates? And as I recall, I was asked some pretty tough questions in nearly every one of them.
That goes with the territory, having been inside the White House, I know the pressures inside the White House, I know how hard it is every single day. When the going gets tough you can’t run away. And it’s going to be tough going to deal with these hard problems; getting out of Iraq in the right way, turning the economy around, getting universal health care, ending our dependence on foreign oil.
The special interests are going to be a lot tougher than 90 minutes of questions from two journalists and we need a president who is going to be up there fighting everyday for the American people and not complain about how much pressure there is, and how hard the questions are.
We are digging up more on Barack Obama’s contrasting immaturity and shocking behavior. Stay tuned. Below is a better video than the original YouTube we put up last night. The point is that it is clearer — and an UPDATE from the Chicago Tribune:
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UPDATE: From the Chicago Tribune’s blog, The Swamp:
Clinton: Obama’s ‘walk away” mentality
PHILADELPHIA –The fallout over Wednesday’s debate in Philadelphia continued this morning as Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton suggested to a local TV newscast that Sen. Barack Obama’s complaints about his questioning at the event displayed a “walk away” mentality “when the going gets tough.” …
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Read our first report last night about the shocking behavior of Sen. Obama — not only towards Hillary Clinton but, quite honestly, towards all of us who support her.
This is not the first time Barack Obama has used “street” gestures and language to send a message to his followers.
“The one thing his voters can count on is that they will ultimately be disappointed.”
Der Spiegel had it exactly right.


Holy $%^&.
You people are serious about this B.S.
And I had thought RED STATE trolls had taken over the comment secion on yesterday’s post.
Whoa.
Hey Guy, remember the video where Bush flipped off the camera before he became president? If that video would have made the rounds on You Tube like this one, we probably wouldn’t be in Iraq today. Get it? We don’t need another vain, egotistical, spoiled child in the White House.
Bit of a difference between this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpL6EIMShO4
And this:
http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/4/18/102120/357/8#8
Anyhow, believe what you want.
Sorry J, I took speech 101, and at this level of debate, you should know by now, not to make ANY GESTURE that might be mistaken for something rude. Add in the odd pauses and how he waits for the audience to react and it’s pretty damning. He’s a rude, petulant child and middle America will not be fooled or chided by the likes of a bunch of arrogant, rude Obama supporters. You’re proving our point about how rude you are just by being here. Just imagine how it looks to independants reading your comments. You’re in someone else’s home, kicking up your muddy feet on Larry’s coffee table. We’re not over at KOS raiding his fridge.
You’re right. The “finger” could be a scratch but when you view it in total…the pause, the smirk, the exact point in his words where he flashes it (related specifically to Hillary), it was, indeed, flipping her off.
You can’t spin away the total communication.
It’s symptomatic of how little knowledge we have to go on with Obama.
Obama’s actually very ascerbic and mean. We know he only functions with a formal televised speech with a riled up audience roaring approval–and that can’t handle a tough debate where he’s seriously challeneged or the oppoent is willing to embarrass him.
McCain is actually much wittier than Obama in the debate format–but he’s average with a prapared script.
McCain has a life long relationship with Russert Matthews Browkaw Rather Jennings Blitzer etc…Obama will definetely not be one of the lads once McCain strikes up a rapport with the moderators.
All we have a are crumbs and snippets to evaluate.
Also Obama has not really had 20 debates.
He’s only been on in a three way or two way debate about 3 times.
The 7 candidate debates were mainly about Biden and Kucinich hamming it up and haircuts.
you people are sad…oh well what ever takes your mind off the trainwreck and eventual fall of The Hills.
This is why I switched from Obama to Clinton. The tone of the emails these people exchange before they invade comments threads convinced me that his campaign is inauthentic and full of thugs.
as he ignores the similar tone of hillbots…right you were a former supporter…
I am a former supporter, and I know you has put you and others up to what you are doing. Pure Astroturf. You are thugs.
That’s what drove me away from Obama, as well. When the primary started, I looked at all the candidates. I remembered Obama from the 2004 speech (I didn’t know that teleprompters and Axelrod’s words were his forte’ back then). So I gave the idea of Obama a whirl, thought it’d be pretty cool, as he was so different. Then I found my way back to John Edwards with Hillary leanings, then to Hillary 100% as John was exiting, and I was learning more about Hillary’s substance and character.
Obamacrats drove me from Democratic Underground, and I’m continually amazed by their venom, and how the MSM seems to be blithely ignorant of it. I think the Obama’s campaign has provided a haven for the thugs. I prefer witty, and occasionally snarky, conversation based on facts.
I love what Riverdaughter put on her site concerning the visiting obamadroids:
Welcome to The Confluence! We are glad you stopped by. You have probably dropped in before but for some reason, today was the day you chose to comment. And, hey, we’re all for free speech and first amendment and all that. We know you have a choice of blogs to register your opinion. We would like to encourage you to exercise that choice and express your opinion somewhere else, especially if you insist on insulting us or our friends.
This is not censorship. Censorship would be a situation where I am deleting your comments and you had nowhere else to post them. This is not the case. I am deleting you because you are rude and obnoxious and you have plenty of other places to go to be rude and obnoxious. You can go to DailyKos, Talkingpointsmemo, HuffingtonPost or any number of other sites where you will feel more at home and we will feel more comfortable. There are places and times to behave badly and The Confluence is not one of those places. Likewise, the campaign trail in North Carolina was probably not the best place for Obama to make rude and obnoxious gestures (note the plural), especially right before a high-stakes primary. If you feel he might have gone too far, you might want to have a talk with HIM, not US.
If you go elsewhere, we will not be offended. Rest assured, we know what your position is (anti-Clinton) and we can predict with relatively good precision what you would like to say. So, there is no reason to belabor your point here. But keep it up everywhere else! The material you are providing is priceless and, indeed, we wouldn’t be here today without all of your efforts.
Oh, by the way, thanks for the confirmation that we have really struck a nerve. Your comments are hillariously funny. I can almost read the flop sweat.
Thanks and have a nice day.
Except for the fact that flashing two fingers is a pretty inept way of flipping her off. Look again at the screen capture.
I believe that if he spread the two fingers, that would be the UK equivalent of flipping the bird. Look into that!
Next!
“pretty inept way of flipping her off”
So who said he was “ept”?
You might want to get your eyes checked. Double vision is often a sign of deep neurological problems.
it’s one finger.
http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/4/18/102120/357/8#8
Oh my, his middle finger has a cleft in it!
But let’s say that he did have an itch on his face that he just had to scratch. Okay. You know, if he’s not going to own the gesture, then he doesn’t need to get the cred for it either.
If you’re on the street and you get busted and have to back down, then, well…let’s just say it says something about you, and it’s not good.
So let’s give him a pass on his itch. But what about the gyration? You know, when he said that Hillary just had to get her digs (low down fist) in? Is that what we want the President of the United States to be doing?
Seems to me that a gifted orator can accomplish what he needs to accomplish with his oratory skills. What does it say to you about Obama, that he has to resort to vulgar gestures to make a point? It says to me that he’s not ready to be President of the United States.
In case you were wondering…yes you do sound silly.
but…Whatever!
If you think this is bad, just read the letters these Obama supporters exchange before invading comments threads. This is why I no longer support Obama. These people are thugs.
buzz…?
well hillbots are welcomewherever…last time I check good ole larry said you didn’t own this site either…so as much as you’d like to bubblfy yourself like Bush from inconvienient REALITIES…he’s hoping you find republican voting experience what you want…
No difference between voting for republican and voting for Obama. As I said here yesterday, Bush, Obama and McCain are three of a kind. The only difference is that McCain when a POW had the fortitude to refuse an early release, thus putting the welfare of those who had been there longer ahead of his own needs. Obama and Bush would have been out of there before you could flip anyone the bird.
Yes, and from the number of them that are out trolling today, they must for some reason be really worried. This was just a silly, childish gesture from a silly, childish brat who would, if he had any real concern for the Democratic Party, drop out now and let the qualified, competent Hillary Clinton be our nominee. But I guess Howard Dean will continue to prop him up and try to strongarm (or buy) automatic delegates into supporting his Chosen One in spite of all of Obama’s recent gaffes.
“But what about the gyration? “
Truly, the last gasp of the Clinton campaign.
Gyration? Did someone forward her clips of Elvis on Ed Sullivan instead of Obama?
it did slowpoke
Remember when the Giant Ego named Markos claimed the Clinton team had darkened a picture of Obama?
Did you call him crazy? No, because your brain swims in Kool-Aid.
I thought that second clip was great…Obamapuppet….
No because he had EVIDENCE…remember that word.
debunked
But that Berzerkly elitist was shilling for the messiah and that makes any lies and censorship at his blog ok.
You are the epitome of PROJECTION. The only freeper-like trolls are Obama fanboys.
You do know that you guys are the equivalent of that 28% still up on Bush’s jock right?
This is the reason why I switched from Obama to Clinton. Listen to the tone of this comment. These Obama supporters exchange emails and ask each other to type comments such as these. They enjoy it. They are thugs. They are out of touch.
You got that wrong — 28% is the percentage of voters in Idaho who would support Obama in the GE.
Or maybe it’s the percentage of Howard Dean’s brain that’s still working. Or maybe you just thought of it because Obama has about a 28% chance of ever being elected President after this sorry excuse of a campaign. Maybe you should spend your time more wisely by going and trying to explain to him that insulting people usually doesn’t make them want to vote for you.
Susan please…
let’s try to limit the level of straw grasping as well as embarrassment for yourself. Other sites call you folks bats#%$ crazy over here. The level of projection is insane. He clearly scratched hi face. At what point should we expect you to endorse McCain? Because at the level of haterade being gulped by you larry and Taylor…he could give you an organ to save your life and you’d still vote McCain. And also this is probably more a question for Larry, but that Ad you have for that vanity book that Taylor has out depicting Obama as a facist. How exactly is he a facist? And is McCain a better person that BO?
This guy could drown a bunch of kittens and puppies on prime time TV and you “hussein” cultists would still worship him.
ok right…I guess given her track record this election season I could say the same thing to you. She could lie to you about pretty much anything and you’d find a way to justify it.
In REALITY he’s gaining voters, yours is hemoraging votes. So everyone who hates hillary or is voting for BO are brainwashed…you all are the chosen ones. Right. Get a grip and face the facts.
Get a grip on this.
Obama will never be president. And you helped not make it happen.
Keep in touch with yourself.
So that means Hillary’s chances are worse than NEVER?
You do realize she’s the one losing smartguy/Nostradamus?
If she’s losing, why is Obama so afraid to let the people of FL and MI have their votes counted? Only Obama and Dean (and Rove and Axelrod) would think it acceptable to win by disenfranchising a huge number of voters. And from the desperation in your comments, you must be really worried he won’t be winning anyway. Are the automatic delegates not listening to Dean so much anymore? Have they decided they would like to actually try to win this fall so will be saying “no thanks” to your deity? Where do they get off thinking the party is more important than Obama? If I were you, I’d rush off to tell Oprah on them. Maybe she’ll send someone over to give them the finger.
Right, he’s the reason FL can’t vote.
the willful ignorance…
“the willful ignorance” — Yes, it’s truly amazing he has gotten this far with so little knowledge, experience or talent. Seems like his only trick is that pseudo-Jedi mind trick he uses on all you Obamabots.
Not surprising since most media outlets have decided they’re in love with Obama. With all the negative press Hillary gets, it’s a wonder she hasn’t already lost the lead in PA and that all the remaining SD’s have not pledged their support to Obama. You guys think the questions were tough the other day. Welcome to Hillary’s world. I’d love to see the look on your face when you finally realize that he’s just another politician and not God’s gift to politics. Get prepared for a giant letdown.
After your emminent Hillary letdown you can come back here and explain to us how we’ll be letdown.
Your whole esscence is negative…your girls not gonna win so you wanna break stuff…entitlement is a funny thing. I guess you were never really entitled when you don’t get what you want…but I guess you’re old enough for your wants not to hurt.
Is this the afternoon toting from Axelrod, kind of lame ones actually, but that is ok, you children said Clinton was gone after Texas and Ohio, wrong wrong wrong!
Did your dunce cap fit then, bring it out again, you’ll be needing it!
“your girls not gonna win so you wanna break stuff…”
I really don’t mean it as an insult when I say I doubt you are willing or capable of doing this, but I would like to, instead of just exchanging barbs, discuss your remark cited above. I have never heard or seen a Hillary supporter threatening violence over the outcome of this contest. Unfortunately, I have read many comments from Obama supporters doing just that. Are you one of those who threatens to riot in Denver if your guy doesn’t get the nom? I would guess that from the reported behavior of his followers in caucuses and from his association with Ayres, Obama thinks this is a perfectly acceptable thing to do, and Howard Dean may be spineless enough to be trying to give Obama the nomination to avoid any such violence, but I doubt most Democrats want to have their nomination hijacked by violent means. What’s your opinion on this?
Judging by their reaction to Tavis Smiley, who hasn’t even made an endorsement, I’d say many Obama supporters are quite capable of such a disruption.
Has there been a post on this blog discussing how credible the threats to riot at the convention are? Most of the Obamatrolls sound like cowardly little bullies who are full of bravado only while seated at the keyboard, but there are a few reasons I worry about this. First, Howard Dean and the other party elders other than the Clintons are not known for the sturdiness of their spines, so I worry they might cave to such threats just to avoid any possibility Obama followers might make good on the threats. Second, as I said above, when you consider the behavior of Obama’s followers at caucuses and his association with Ayres, it seems credible he might try something like this (when disenfranchisement doesn’t work, try rioting). And last, a lot of his followers just seem totally nuts.
If there has not been a post on this, could Larry Johnson do one assessing how credible the threats are. It’s a sad day when a faction of the Democratic Party is threatening to emulate those republican goons in Florida.
You totally misunderstood what I meant by letdown. He might in fact win, but the letdown will be when you people realize he’s not Jesus Christ. He’s a politician and a good one at that. But he has still not proven he would be a good governor. When he makes that first big mistake or when his past comes back to bite him, or when he finally breaks one of his promises, it’s going to be like watching junkies come off a high. Just like when many Republicans first realized they made a mistake by voting for Bush.
I’ve gotta suggestion for you. Take your nasty vindictive little remarks that come from your from your tiny Obamabot brain and stick them where the sun doesn’t shine.
yeah Ill do that right away…hope you feel better!
Cheer-up it’s friday and your girl’s still in the race.
When she quits it’ll be a surprise not like the FatBoys breaking up but you’ll get over it…
Here’s an idea…write her in as a candidate, then we can go on McSame sites and pretend that we’re disgruntled McCain fans jumping ship to Hillary…you know, whatever it takes to win…RIGHT?
Obviously you don’t know how to read English. But what else can one expect from a moron? Since you need me to clarify, I will. Stick it up your ass, idiot.
Manlostinthedarkness, Why don’t you go play with your other little friends? All sing Kumbaya my Lord….
oh geez, obama gave hillary the finger. duh! get over yourself. you look really pathetic. that idiotic gesture alone tells me he isn’t fit to be senator much less president. my cat georige would make a better president.
http://www.mydd.com/comments/2008/4/18/102120/357/8#8
Obama was in fact scratching his face with two fingers. I’m sorry to be so one-note about this, but some of you folks just don’t get it. There are legitimate criticisms of each candidate in the race, and some of them even - gasp - make a difference to anybody at all. Tuzla, Ferraro, Wright, Rezko, this - it’s all manufactured controversy. This site has a great deal of complicity in helping the media manufacture it, as does Daily Kos, lord knows.
Go over to Matt Yglesias’ site. What do you think of the wipe the filth off the shoulders trick? How about the wipe the shit off the shoes trick? Both of these gestures are immitating other videos. You disagree with whether or not he flipped her off but I see you conveniently choose to ignore he gestured (called) Clinton filth and shit. That’s some candidate you’ve got yourself.
It’s “brush that dirt off your shoulders,” actually, and the implication is not that he’s brushing Hillary herself off his shoulders (which, if you think about it, doesn’t make sense at all), but rather that when people fling mud at you, you get up and brush your shoulders off.
If you want to be outraged over this, be my guest. I might suggest, though, that you have more productive battles to pick with Obama.
I don’t care if he gave her the bird. I care that he is such an immature (at almost fifty years old!) sorehead that he would resort to such childish behavior just because she bested him in a debate. Thank goodness even if he got the nomination he would be trounced in the GE. And thank goodness he’s doing more and more stuff like this at an ever increasing rate so it’s looking less and less likely he’ll get the nomination, even with all of Uncle Howie’s help.
filth…? Oh you made that up…maybe you should brush your shoulders off…?
If it had just been that one gesture, you MIGHT be able to make the argument that he was just scratching his face.
But to see what he was really up to you have to look at the entire routine. And it WAS a finely tuned well rehearsed and practiced routine. From the little pinkie to the corner of his mouth, to the finger, to the sweeping his shoulders, to the fist, and to his leg and shoes. Add to it the “gotcha’ grin, the exquisitely timed pauses, and the jeering cheers from the audience and you have one gigantic juvenile, immature flipping the bird at a U.S Senator and former First Lady. I guess Obama’s new role model is Dick Cheney.
All this because he was bested by a woman in a debate where he proved he cannot handle the pressures of the job. As some one else here posted, he could not take her on during the debate when he was standing next to her face to face becasue he is a coward. And so he had to mock her and denigrate her from miles away.
It was a shameful display for someone running for POTUS under a banner of CHANGE and HOPE.
I HOPE I never have to deal with his type of CHANGE.
I guess scratching his face with his pinky means he’s secretly Dr. Evil? Or am I misreading your wonderful interpretation of his performance. DO tell.
The gestures were all part of a performance.
Obama is a lecturer. He’s also doing dana=mage control from a rubbish debate performance.
So he’s sticking one to Clinton.
“He’s also doing dana=mage control from a rubbish debate performance.
What on earth is “dana-image”?
ahhh welcome back mr. stick my fingers in my ears and yell Hillary is my copilot.
simply stay on your own blogs is this is so annoying to you. simple. don’t read it.
This is an intervention…typically the afflicted don’t realize how far they’ve fallen. Seriously, this time last year what blog did you frequent..TownHall.com?
Little Green Footballs?
I’ve been here before you buddy, this hasn’t always been a Hillary schlep-site…the nerve and lack of perspective that the world would allow you a bubble of ignorance. You don’t have the Bush kind of cash to allow yourself said bubble…so get over it and go back to you wingnut welfare site yourself.
INTERVENTION!!!
No. This is a moron. As the public face of BHO here he is reminding everybody who sees his posts why electing BHO would be a disaster.
they may need you to explain that one…as no one is really into clear thoughts here.
The only ones who will need for me to explain my comment are the trolls. The regular residents here are smart ehough to figure out exactly what I meant.
Listen up Manamongst Hussein
I could give a damn what the “followers of the Messiah” think…you got that! …Your candidate and his followers frighten the bejesus out of me and if Jesus himself came down, he will never, ever get my vote…He’s a very dangerous man who has no class whatsoever…as a matter of fact, he’s a gutless wonder…I would love to see him do the same thing to Senator McCain (flip the bird)…I guarantee you this spineless wonder would not have the, well…you know what I mean..
It should be fairly obvious at this point we don’t need your vote. Tht could be the problem though you have seriously discounted the 1.3+ million people who…according to many of you are brainwashed into supporting him…I mean seriously…listen to yourself…you don’t believe he is that enchanting do you?
We can’t help you’re scared of change…or even scared of him. That sounds like some personal issue that you need to work through buddy..we don’t have time to hold your hand and bottom line…WE DON’T NEED YOUR VOTE, doesn’t seem like we’ve ever had your democratic vote anyhoo. So take your Glen Beck ass to the McSame camp and make it a not so terrible loss for old robot man.
you’re not that important pal.
sorry to break it to ya…but it had to be said.
HE WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.
LOL. There it’s been said. The don’t “need” our vote. Then fuck ‘em.
Good luck winning in November without Hillary’s supporters asshole.
Have you people ever actually been through an election cycle before? I mean.. you DO know that there is stuff that comes after the nomination. I mean.. you KNOW that, right?
My, my, things must be getting pretty desperate for Obama if his flying monkeys seem to be populating our water cooler. Whenever he screws up, and that’s often, the flying monkeys come knocking.
flying monkey’s….love it…and….and….how about this….doesn’t the “evil one” remind you of…..”Curious George”….something about the ears!
That’s deep, what are you 10?
Nah buddy we’re just here to help those who wanna be helped. You’re more than welcome to do your republican tango this fall…but do remember just because you voted for Kerry doesn’t mean WE NEED YOU BUDDY, there 2 republicans seeing the light for every one of you and there ARE 6 new people of new voting age for every pathetic one of you…this is life matters and nothing personal…if worse came to worse I’d hold my nose and vote for hillary. That’s party discipline, not that crybaby life of priviledge antics that you all seem so determined to employ. I can see you lying about your vote four years from now as well.
You’d think hillary was the best candidate in the world!!!
Not so much…
You are the one who is deluded if you think that he doesn’t need our votes to win the presidency.
What is his base? Let’s see, MI and FL are off the table because he diesenfranchised their vote. Odds are they’ll go Repug. Blacks are only 10% of the population. Even assuming that 100% of them vote, he can’t win.
What’s left? The wine track and Republicans? Well, the wine track, many of whom live in red states that will go Republican, can’t pull it off. I wouldn’t count on the Repugs. They could go for McCain, and many of them live in red states, too.
Obama can’t win the Dem blue states that are Hillary territory. And, he’s insulted the base by by calling them bigots.
I’d say that if he wins the nomination he’s up the creek without a paddle.
Maybe he can use his middle finger instead? All the rest of us can stand on the side-lines and laugh at the spectacle.
You think you’ll get Jewish votes…lol
you think Jewish people are idiots or what? That they’d employ your foolish logic in voting…they don’t have your fatalist love of murder suicides. The most you’d ever get was the Jackie Mason crowd. Jews want change he and in Israel…Clinton is obviously more of the same on the conflict…
Every single one of your plans is contingent on constituent stupidity!
MI and FL are rightfully blaming their state Dems for this stupidity…apparently you’ve swallowed a gang of Taylor Marsh’s anecdotal stories. Of voter anger at Obama…anyone with a clear mind knows where blame should be placed.
Oh, are you Jewish? Couldn’t tell by your name.
And where are you going with this weird murder/sucide thing? And Jackie Mason? What does any of this have to do with my comments?
You know, the problem with you Obamabots is that you can’t win a logical argument so you say ridiculous things in return that are totally illogical.
And if you are so delusional that you think Obama will win MI & FL, after refusing to allow the DNC to count their votes, then go for it.
My bad…you were the one that speaks for all Judaism.
He does not *need* our vote? Get real buddy because he does need Florida’s vote and he will never get it. This man has no chance whatsoever.
Scream foul all you like. Thugs love to try intimidation. But when the GE comes, BO will be slam dunked back to the streets of Chicago. You OB folk really don’t see the damage you are causing to your own candidate.
Mccain will be the next president, and you OB thugs need only look in a mirror to see why.
sure have fun with that…
“It should be fairly obvious at this point we don’t need your vote.”
This is the part that is SO laughable. The are so bumped up on ego and kool-aid they have forgotten simple basic math!
The nice part about math is that it’s not subject to opinion. 1+1=2 cannot be altered.
WIN WITHOUT ME!
well you have fun subtracting Supers Friedman!
do that math!
Your concern is so misplaced. Kind of like “Hillary should just quit now”.
It won’t work for her. It won’t work for those of us here at No Quarter.
She can stay as long as she likes…
it’ll only make her look bad. And you thought Huckabee was a hump…he’s got 10x the honor than her. And that’s hard for me to say. regardless I’ll never tell her dumbass to quit…McSame is easy work…but you guys here wouldn’t know that because you have very little grasp of the issue that AMERICANS care about.
how about that bump for Hillary in PA…not!
Of course, it is notable that you are unable to address the CONTENT of the story above:
That Obama whined and complained yesterday — trying to blame EVERYBODY but himself for his poor performance Tuesday night and for his inability to truthfully answer questions, instead dodging and weaving.
Hillary is pointing out that she’s been the subject of constant, bruising attacks not just from people of your ilk but also the MSM.
But, let’s not go there, of course. Instead, let’s attack the messenger. MORE immature behavior from the Obamabots that we are accustomed to. It is sad. But there it is.
Susan no one is denying he complained,we’re