Comments on: Obama Invokes Jay-Z: “Stab the Ladies…Middle Finga To The Law” http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/ Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:10:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: bullshitdetector http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-240722 bullshitdetector Mon, 12 May 2008 17:17:14 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-240722 "brushing off his shoulders emulation of a misogynist gangster rap song".. Has anyone taken the time to consider what the song means in CONTEXT? Probably not, because then you'd all know that you are stupid for coming to the conclusions that I see here. The song's intent is to push the notion that a person should ignore detractors, especially those that have frivilous intentions, or meaningless issues to take up with you. Brush them away, don't address them. It has nothing to do for Obama about being a pimp, or stabbing women (also out of context, even for Jay-Z's intent). Now maybe Obama is using this to duck questions, or to passively sling mud back by saying "Look, I'm taking the 'high road' by brusing this off. But only the the stupid people or those intending to misrepresent this could come to the conclusion that Obama seeks to align himself with gangster rap, or wants Hillary to get stabbed. “brushing off his shoulders emulation of a misogynist gangster rap song”..

Has anyone taken the time to consider what the song means in CONTEXT?

Probably not, because then you’d all know that you are stupid for coming to the conclusions that I see here.

The song’s intent is to push the notion that a person should ignore detractors, especially those that have frivilous intentions, or meaningless issues to take up with you.

Brush them away, don’t address them. It has nothing to do for Obama about being a pimp, or stabbing women (also out of context, even for Jay-Z’s intent).

Now maybe Obama is using this to duck questions, or to passively sling mud back by saying “Look, I’m taking the ‘high road’ by brusing this off.

But only the the stupid people or those intending to misrepresent this could come to the conclusion that Obama seeks to align himself with gangster rap, or wants Hillary to get stabbed.

]]> By: Kourian http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-199559 Kourian Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:09:53 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-199559 <i>enjoying the refreshing change from the usual “Obama-love” in other sites</i> Fresh air is intoxicating, innit? ;) <i>says a lot about the people he attracts</i> Reams. ;) <i>a lightweight, thin-skinned, not-ready-for-prime-time candidate</i> Not ever ready for any time. ;) enjoying the refreshing change from the usual “Obama-love” in other sites

Fresh air is intoxicating, innit? ;)

says a lot about the people he attracts

Reams. ;)

a lightweight, thin-skinned, not-ready-for-prime-time candidate

Not ever ready for any time. ;)

]]> By: horsemeat http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-199362 horsemeat Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:02:13 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-199362 This is definitely the same event on the two videos. Of course you see different audience members because the cameras are looking from two different angles, across the room from each other. I have a hard time believing every "uhm" and pause, and all audience reactions could be "scripted" for two different events. Open the videos in different tabs on your browser, pause them at the same place, and then play both... Same speech, folks. This is definitely the same event on the two videos. Of course you see different audience members because the cameras are looking from two different angles, across the room from each other.

I have a hard time believing every “uhm” and pause, and all audience reactions could be “scripted” for two different events. Open the videos in different tabs on your browser, pause them at the same place, and then play both… Same speech, folks.

]]> By: Ky4Hillary http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-199106 Ky4Hillary Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:07:47 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-199106 I'll engage with you over the issues. What did you think of Mr. Obama's answer about giving white's preference in getting into college over blacks. He is against affirmative action. Personally, I find that funny, since both Clinton's fought hard for equal rights for blacks, but, I guess the color of one's skin does make a wise and experienced candidate. Was that just a teaser? And I guess the muslims gonna be happy cause he's calling for them to have seperate lunchrooms at work, wear their burkas and morning prayer call. Equal opportunity, except I really don't hear him calling for anything to benefit the black people. I guess the same old shit just under a different color. I’ll engage with you over the issues. What did you think of Mr. Obama’s answer about giving white’s preference in getting into college over blacks. He is against affirmative action. Personally, I find that funny, since both Clinton’s fought hard for equal rights for blacks, but, I guess the color of one’s skin does make a wise and experienced candidate. Was that just a teaser? And I guess the muslims gonna be happy cause he’s calling for them to have seperate lunchrooms at work, wear their burkas and morning prayer call. Equal opportunity, except I really don’t hear him calling for anything to benefit the black people. I guess the same old shit just under a different color.

]]> By: bertha http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-198951 bertha Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:43:41 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-198951 After lurking here for some time and enjoying the refreshing change from the usual "Obama-love" in other sites, I thought that I'd pitch in. I'm with statbabe on this one. The other angle shows that it wasn't just the middle finger, and besides there was only one speech made. There is no point acting like the deranged Obama cult on Daily Kos or Huffington Post. However, it is also clear that many in the audience did think that he was insulting Hillary with a derogatory gesture, which says a lot about the people he attracts. In addition, and a lot more telling in my opinion, were the rest of the gestures that he made during the speech. The bump and grind a la Reverend Wright and the brushing off his shoulders emulation of a misogynist gangster rap song were despicable and unseemly. It clearly indicated that he is a lightweight, thin-skinned, not-ready-for-prime-time candidate, in the same mold as the current uncouth President who is an embarrassment every time he is abroad with his frat-boy antics. Hillary for President! After lurking here for some time and enjoying the refreshing change from the usual “Obama-love” in other sites, I thought that I’d pitch in. I’m with statbabe on this one. The other angle shows that it wasn’t just the middle finger, and besides there was only one speech made. There is no point acting like the deranged Obama cult on Daily Kos or Huffington Post. However, it is also clear that many in the audience did think that he was insulting Hillary with a derogatory gesture, which says a lot about the people he attracts. In addition, and a lot more telling in my opinion, were the rest of the gestures that he made during the speech. The bump and grind a la Reverend Wright and the brushing off his shoulders emulation of a misogynist gangster rap song were despicable and unseemly. It clearly indicated that he is a lightweight, thin-skinned, not-ready-for-prime-time candidate, in the same mold as the current uncouth President who is an embarrassment every time he is abroad with his frat-boy antics. Hillary for President!

]]> By: Vnd http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-198250 Vnd Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:40:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-198250 Quick update: the video is off the MSNBC front page now but here's the link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24204755#24204755 Quick update: the video is off the MSNBC front page now but here’s the link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24204755#24204755

]]> By: Vnd http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-198224 Vnd Sun, 20 Apr 2008 02:24:45 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-198224 If anyone is interested... MSNBC covered the "finger" controversy today (video clip is on their main page right now)... EXCEPT -- they completely manipulated the video and put it out of order so it makes no sense. It is TOTALLY biased, and leaves you with impression that we who believe he did it are making a big deal over nothing. HOW DARE THEY? If anyone is interested… MSNBC covered the “finger” controversy today (video clip is on their main page right now)… EXCEPT — they completely manipulated the video and put it out of order so it makes no sense. It is TOTALLY biased, and leaves you with impression that we who believe he did it are making a big deal over nothing. HOW DARE THEY?

]]> By: thomas Schaller http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-198024 thomas Schaller Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:47:12 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-198024 to "alibe" it is the same speech - different camera angles. and he had an itch. move on to “alibe”

it is the same speech - different camera angles. and he had an itch. move on

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-198000 TeakWoodKite Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:23:57 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-198000 Disturbing for you no dought, but you correct to rejecting the behavior. It has me pondering the long term implicatations, as you are not alone in this breach and it is crossive. Disturbing for you no dought, but you correct to rejecting the behavior.

It has me pondering the long term implicatations, as you are not alone in this breach and it is crossive.

]]> By: TeakWoodKite http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-197978 TeakWoodKite Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:52:54 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/18/obama-invokes-jay-z-stab-the-ladiesmiddle-finga-to-the-law/#comment-197978 I always took you for a penguin. I always took you for a penguin.

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