Senator Obama, Debate This
By Anna Shane on April 20, 2008 at 1:35 PM in 9/11, Afghanistan, Barack Obama, Blackwater, Bush/Cheney, Commander in Chief, GI Bill of Rights, Halliburton, Hillary Clinton, Iraq, John Murtha, Soldiers/Veterans, Veterans Administration
I’ve been blogging for months, asking Barack Obama to be clear about how he differs from Hillary Clinton in their Iraq exit plans. Now he claims he’ll be too busy campaigning to make time for another critical debate. So, I’ll tell you where he stands, and he can correct me, if he’s changed his `plan’ but hasn’t yet mentioned it.
It seems to me that Barack isn’t sure how to get out of Iraq. His statement “we’ll get out as carefully as we went in carelessly” isn’t substantive. Additionally he has taken a position that leads me to think he can’t get us out. Barack plans to leave in place those contracts that went to Bush’s cronies without the need to bid. (Bush made a big deal out of prohibiting international interests from gaining any financial stake in Iraq’s possible success and instead “rewarded” his friends with those no-bid contracts that have cost taxpayers, or China, whichever you prefer, so much of our wealth.)
Barack also intends to keep private armies protecting those contractors. It will be impossible for any real diplomacy to take place while we occupy Iraq, either with troops or with contractors.
No nation wants to risk the lives of their own citizens for a war that enriches Bush’s friends. Hillary’s plan is substantive and she’ll do it, whether or not she’s called a loser, whether or not the violence goes up while we’re leaving, and she won’t reoccupy the country under any circumstance. She understands that this war is a disaster and she’d not willing to risk one more American or Iraqi life to `give’ Iraq’s so-called freely elected government any more chances. It’s over, when she’s elected we’ll get out of there.
She has been clear and consistent on the question of exiting Iraq. Today she released an even clearer statement on her exit plans and her plans to repair our military and help our veterans of war. (below)
So, Senator Obama, are you too busy campaigning to explain why you want Bush’s contracts enforced, why you plan to protect them with private armies, how you expect diplomacy to work if we’re occupying with contractors, and why you think the Iraqi government would compromise if you’re elected president?
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Hillary Clinton: Ready to End the War in Iraq - April 18, 2008 press release
Today, in Radnor, Pennsylvania , Hillary Clinton was joined by Congressman and retired vice admiral Joe Sestak as she outlined her plan to end the war responsibly. Five years after the start of the war, we have come to a crossroads.
The war has sapped our military and economic strength, damaged U.S. national security, taken the lives of almost 4,000 brave young men and women in uniform, and placed a lasting toll on the tens of thousands of wounded, many with invisible injuries like Traumatic Brain Injury and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. The Bush-Cheney-McCain strategy is to continue this failed policy.
We need to end this war and bring our troops home swiftly, responsibly, and safely. We need to press the Iraqis to take responsibility for their own country. We need to rebuild our alliances and enlist the international community in securing stability in Iraq and the region.
We need a Commander-in-Chief who is both committed to ending this war and who has the strength, experience, and leadership to do it the right way. Hillary Clinton is that candidate. As President, she will: I. Start Bringing Our Troops Home Bring Our Troops Home. As President, one of Hillary’s first official actions will be to convene the Joint Chiefs of Staff, her Secretary of Defense, and her National Security Council and direct them to draw up a a clear, comprehensive plan to bring home our troops, swiftly and responsibly, beginning within 60 days.
Under Hillary’s plan the United States will retain counterterrorism forces in Iraq and the region to fight al Qaeda and will not permit terrorists to have a safe haven in Iraq from which to attack the United States , its allies, or its interests. Reduce Strains on Our Troops.
The war is placing tremendous strain on our armed forces, courting strategic risks posed by a force that is stretched to the breaking point.
As President, Hillary will also adopt the proposals of Rep. John Murtha that, for every month they spend in the field, soldiers will be guaranteed one month here at home. Our Marines will have a similar standard appropriate for their service. The Army’s policy goals and practice until the Iraq war were to have at least twice as much time at home for active duty soldiers as in the field and at least four times as much time at home as in the field for National Guard and Reserve.
As President, Hillary will reestablish these as long-term goals for our armed forces. Remove Armed Private Military Contractors in Iraq . As U.S. troops begin to withdraw, we should not be leaving unaccountable, often irresponsible private military contractors to carry arms and engage in combat-oriented missions and security functions. Hillary has co-sponsored the Stop Security Outsourcing Act, which seeks to end this practice.
As President, Hillary will work toward a ban on armed private military contractors providing security for diplomatic personnel. Stop Wasting Money on No-Bid Contracts. Spending on federal contracts has been the fastest-growing part of the discretionary budget over the past six years, yet has received little attention.
Under this Administration, the number of no-bid contracts has more than doubled, and between 2000 and 2006, spending on these contracts has increased 121 percent to $103 billion, representing more than half of federal procurement spending. During this time, companies like Halliburton have enjoyed record profits, thanks to a 700 percent increase in taxpayer funds awarded to them.
A recent Congressional report identified a wide range of contracts, running into the hundreds of billions of dollars, where federal auditors found massive overcharges, wasteful spending, and poor oversight. Hillary has proposed a measure that would create a new “point of order” against any spending bill in Fiscal 2009 that does not explicitly require a federal agency’s compliance with competitive contracting rules.
As President, Hillary will work to ensure that this becomes law and that we stop wasting money on no-bid contracts. II. Secure Stability in Iraq As We Bring Our Troops Home Greater political and economic stability means safer conditions for our departing troops and a smoother disengagement from our military’s missions across Iraq .
In order to foster stability as U.S. troops begin to redeploy, Hillary will focus on political reconciliation inside Iraq and holding the Iraqi government accountable for political and economic progress. She will: Call on the United Nations to Play a Greater Role in Addressing Domestic Strife in Iraq . As President, Hillary will press the United Nations to play a greater role in bringing about national accommodation in Iraq , as it did with positive results in Bosnia , East Timor , and elsewhere.
The UN has already provided valuable technical assistance to Iraq , and is far more likely to be viewed as a neutral, honest broker than the United States - especially when it acts on behalf of a broad coalition of concerned states and the international community. The new UN Secretary General, Ban Ki-moon, has indicated he is willing to play a key role in assisting the Iraqis, and Hillary will ensure that the UN envoy in Iraq has the necessary authority by obtaining the Security Council’s explicit endorsement of a strengthened UN mandate to promote reconciliation. Pursue an Integrated Strategy to Bring Stability to Iraq .
The surge has emphasized a bottom-up strategy that has reduced violence in the short term but, in the absence of an effective national strategy, risks deepening sectarian and intrasectarian divisions within Iraq in the long run. For example, the United States has established and armed local security elements - the Awakening in Anbar, for example, and other “Concerned Local Citizens” elsewhere - without getting the Iraqi government to live up to its agreement to integrate significant numbers of these local militias and “volunteers” into provincial police forces or the national Army. As President, Hillary will pursue a strategy that seeks to empower local leaders, but she will prioritize national accommodation, which is essential to stability.
She will do this by using U.S. and international influence and assistance as leverage to press the Iraqis to reach agreement on key issues, including provincial elections, the hydrocarbon law, and on the overall nature of federalism. Appoint a Special Counsel to Make Reconstruction Funds Accountable. As Iraq ’s oil production increases, the potential revenue accumulated from oil production should increasingly fund Iraq ’s reconstruction, instead of U.S. taxpayer money.
Since 2006, Iraq has earned more than $80 billion from oil, and that figure is growing rapidly. Nevertheless, since the beginning of the war, the U.S. has provided roughly the same amount of money as the Iraqi government to rebuild the country (the United States has appropriated roughly $47 billion; the government of Iraq $50 billion).
Even as we send billions to Iraq while they earn billions in oil revenues, there are increasing reports that the Iraqi government is not spending its budget allocated for reconstruction. The Comptroller General of the U.S. testified that the capital expenditure rate for the central ministries in Iraq was only 7% as of November 2007. Hillary is committed to ensuring that Iraqi oil revenue is dedicated to reconstruction funding - and that the money is actually spent, so that Iraqi citizens receive basic services, such as electricity and clean drinking water, which are currently lacking for so many.
As President, Hillary will appoint a special counsel to investigate where Iraq ’s oil profits are going and how reconstruction funds are being spent - or not spent. She will ensure that reconstruction funds are spent wisely before providing the Iraqi government with more. Combat the Black Market in Oil to Dry Up Funds for the Insurgency. Corruption and stolen oil sold on the black market constitute a critical funding source for the insurgency.
As President, Hillary will boost joint U.S.-Iraqi efforts to combat corruption and protect the oil supply. She will direct her Secretary of Defense to plan a nationwide U.S.-Iraqi crackdown on oil black marketers, ensuring that U.S. and Iraqi personnel have the resources and manpower necessary.
This effort will be designed to disrupt lines of funding for the insurgency, to increase stability, and to reduce attacks on our troops during the withdrawal. Hillary will direct the U.S. Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction to conduct regular reports on corruption in the oil industry. She will be prepared to withhold portions of aid if the Iraqi government does not show meaningful results in its anti-corruption efforts.
Finally, Hillary will double the funding for oil pipeline exclusion zones, which prevent illegal tapping and attacks on pipelines; and she will also provide resources to stop cross-border smuggling of black market oil. III. A New Regional Diplomatic Initiative Enlist the International Community to Stabilize the Region. Our allies and friends in the region all have a stake in a stable Iraq . Until now, in part because of the way the Bush Administration has behaved, they have gotten a free pass. No longer.
As President, Hillary will have a unique opportunity to reach out to our allies and partners in the region and press them to take greater responsibility for what happens in Iraq . She will hold a major regional stabilization conference early in her Presidency. This group will be composed of key allies, other global powers, and all of the states bordering Iraq , including Iran and Syria . The mission of this group will be to develop and implement a strategy to create a stable Iraq . In advance of that meeting, Hillary will confer with our treaty allies as well as our friends in the region to coordinate policy before gathering with the larger group of nations. One of her first international meetings as President will be with these leaders, including Saudi Arabia , the Gulf States , Jordan , and Egypt , as well as our European allies in order to push for greater responsible action towards Iraq , including more assistance. This will send a strong signal of our country’s determination - as we draw down our forces - to ensure that the rest of the world plays its part in stabilizing Iraq . Hillary will then convene a regional stabilization group composed of key allies, other global powers, and all of the states bordering Iraq .
The mission of this group will be to develop and implement a strategy to create a stable Iraq . Provide for Refugees. As our forces redeploy out of Iraq , Hillary will also organize a major international effort under the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees to address the needs of Iraqi refugees. The UN will also play a role, helping to deal with the resettlement of refugees and others displaced from their homes, a number which now exceeds four million. With the price of oil at record levels, the government of Iraq now has considerable financial resources available.
As President, Hillary will also press the UN to establish a mechanism by which some of those Iraqi funds could be used to feed, clothe, shelter, and otherwise provide for these millions of refugees. Addressing the upheaval caused by this displacement will facilitate a smoother exit and a less risky end to the war. IV. A Champion for Veterans When our troops come home, we must make sure they receive the care and respect that they deserve.
When Hillary is President, she will make sure that every member of our armed forces will receive a fair shot at the American Dream when their service is over. She will ensure that every veteran in America will have health care. She will work so that every veteran receives the benefits they have earned and the assistance they need - right from the start. And she will make sure no soldier ever loses a bonus because he or she has been injured in service.
As President, Hillary will: Enact a GI Bill of Rights for the 21st Century. Hillary will enact a GI Bill of Rights for the 21st Century that will resurrect the spirit of the original 1944 GI Bill and offer service members, veterans and their families with expanded education, housing and entrepreneurial benefits. Her plan will guarantee equal access for all components of the Armed Forces — Active, Guard and Reserve — that have deployed overseas in support of a combat operation since September 11 or served two years of active duty since September 11. She will fund undergraduate education for service members, as well as education for specialized trade or technical training, and certification and licensing programs. She will make GI educational benefits transferable within families. She will expand the VA Home Loan Guaranty program to allow veterans to use low-interest, no-fee loans to purchase, build or improve a home valued up to $625,000. She will establish a Veterans Microloan Program to provide veterans with no-collateral, low-interest microloans of up to $100,000 for entrepreneurial ventures. Provide Affordable and Quality Health Care for All Veterans.
As President, Hillary will ensure that all of the 1.8 million uninsured veterans in this country have access to quality, affordable health care. She will restore the Clinton-era policy that opened the VA’s excellent and cost-effective health care system to all veterans who seek to enroll. She will make a long-term commitment to the VA system to ensure it is adequately funded and has the capacity to avoid backlogs and to handle greater enrollments. And she will provide coverage through the American Health Choices Plan to all veterans who choose not to use the VA system. Ensure All Veterans Receive the Benefits They Have Earned and the Assistance They Need — Right from the Start. As President, Hillary will commit to getting a fair, accurate, and timely decision for every veteran filing a disability claim.
She will increase the number of qualified VA evaluators to reduce the backlog of claims. She will provide fast-track training for new claims specialists and expand the Benefits Delivery at Discharge Program to smooth the transition from service to discharge for all those who serve our country.










That is a very detailed proposal, Hillary. Thanks, Anna.
And here’s a rather critical article from The Nation on Obama and contractors such as Blackwater:
Clinton’s is the way you win, just as we always have, historically.
It’s the kooks like K&&, and Rumsfeld, and Cheney the neocons and their elite democratic counterparts who have screwed things up, this fifty plus one strategy, “astroturf thinking is good enough for me” garbage will not suffice at winning anything, much less maintain US strategic dominance.
Get a clue, get some REAL intellect…
after watching an interview on Democracy Now, makes you wonder why Jeremy Scahill is in the bag for BO.
To me this shows that Obama is just another sellout to the corporations politician. If anyone with any knowledge of Iraq and the military knows the private contractors are a big reason why our soldiers are getting shot at. They go into villages and shoot people then they get into trouble call the military and our brave soldiers and reservists have to go in and save their asses and then get drawn into a fire fight trying to save them.
In blackwater and other contractors efforts to make money they send unarmed or lightly armed convoys up from Kuwait run into trouble call the military and again get involved in a fire fight. There is a great deal of resentment in the military of these people because of the amount of money they are making.
I think it is irresponsible for Obama to take that position. If the contractors are left behind all hell will brake out when the military leaves and the military will have to come back again to save their ass.
Damn it Anne, you are JUST TRYING TO MAKE OBAMA LOOK LIKE AN EMPTY SUIT!
ROFL….How true….Great post and of course OBAMESSIAH will not debate it as he hasn’t copied it yet….He figures he’ll get the notes as part of his DEMOCRACTIC PARTY CANDIDATE ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM…
No, Obama does that himself. Anna is just calling attention to it.
I think he looks worse on this than an empty suit. He’s fully capable of answering her plan with his plan and defending why he wants Bush’s contractors and private armies to stay, and why he thinks we’ll need 60 to 80K of our own soldiers for many years. I know the economy is a big problem, huge, and her economic plans look better than his, but I don’t know why he can’t defend his half-hearted exit plan. Makes me wonder if he has any clue about the Iraqi people, not whether they’re sunni or shia, that’s a grade school question, but about their history of honor and the cultural acceptance of revenge killings and acceptance of violence, which will prohibit many men from giving up until they push out the occupiers. Does he really think we can keep spoils of war? I think in legal terms that’s called fruit of the diseased vine? We need to allow their own citizens to harvest their own fruit in whatever way they like, not just because we have no business messing in their internal affairs, but also because it’ll keep bleeding our military and our treasury. You can’t to a half-way exit, it’s an all exit if we want it to work. Can’t have this one two ways.
Great Post anna shane.
Once again Obama misses out on an opportunity to highlight his understanding of the US Constitution.
He called Hillary Clinton’s call for the repeal of the AUMF “convoluted”.
The fact BO has zero creds on military affiars and combined with the fact that Aiham Alsammarae was “freed” from a green zone jail by Blackwater and flown to the US by Blackwater, after an appeal to Durbin and Obama by his son and daughter, It is no wonder he won’t address the issue.
Blackwater has a facility in Illinois.
Way too much info for the short attention span of Obamabots!
Doesn’t matter, they just keep losing, and they dont know why.
Typical.
Problem is, someone’s paying attention, and taking advantage of their mistakes.
Dumber than Bush’s crew.
Hillary at her wonky best…Women like Hillary used to piss me off in school cause they were just so smart and they get the QB,
of course now I am Relying on her to save my country and I’m so grateful she serves so well…Also that I got over the envy by the time I was in like 10th grade…Sure wish PELOSI and Donnaputz would too…..
It’s almost a relief to have a President that understands, and can enact, policy.
WTH would anyone want to vote for Obama, the idiot, after eight years of Bush, and Cheney?
Wait for a week, Obama will just copy her plan and make few minor changes and release his own plan and the media will give him all the support.
Please contribute to Hillary whatever money you can, Obama is outspending her by 5 times in PA
Yet she’s still winning, despite the “elite think.”
I guess the next step is for Obama to steal the PA election, then.
lol.
would that he would? this information is hardly new, it’s been diaried at kos, and months ago. By me. I can’t understand why this isn’t talked about more, his supporters never comment on his strange exit plan that excludes most of the exiting part. I’ve thought, maybe he has friends among Bush’s contractors? Or he thinks he’ll keep something in reserve to ‘influence’ the Iraqi government to do more? I really wonder if he thinks his great sense of empathy (that I have yet to see) will turn the disaster into a miraculous win, which would border on delusional? Or if he’s like a lot of guys and doesn’t want to have a real loss on his beat and so he would need to find out for himself if it’s well and truly lost? And cost us more lives and treasurer. Her plan isn’t new at all, it’s been there from the first, what is new is that he hasn’t copied her, and one must wonder, why? What does he think he could accomplish that no other occupier of Iraq before him has accomplished? There is something worse than an empty suit.
85% of Blacks are voting for Obama just becoz he is black. Is this not racism? Why is MSM not saying it?
Racism cannot be one sided.
that’s not racism, it’s okay to vote for a favorite son, and it would be great to have someone of color in the white house. It’ll also be great to have a woman in the white house. The point however is which one has the human resources to fix the bush mess as much as humanly possible. The has an exit plan far more direct and bold than anything anyone else has. How’s that not the change we all want? Admit defeat, get out without any more loss? And of course the universal health care and the universal pre-school, and free post high school college or job training? And her very detailed and expertly staffed environmental plans? She has a great foreign policy team of advisors who’ll be her future staff, and he says he knows enough about foreign policy and doesn’t need someone who knows more than he knows? And that’s not his fundamental dishonesty in not telling the voters about his controversial pastor, he told us about his cocaine use, why did he keep his pastor secret? But whoever her oppenent turned out to be, she’s the best candidate I’ve seen in my lifetime (I was born in 1946).
It’s a deep thirst, and it’s entirely reasonable. It’s a goddamned tragedy that Obama isn’t capable of measuring up to the hopes he’s prompted in the people around him.
When the head of the NAACP in Philadelphia says that OBAMESSIAH is not a real heir to MLK’s I have a dream speech…..Well you got a problem.
I think she’s goin to surprise the lil’ prince in Philly. I know she’ll win in PA.
No one in the current field will get the US out of Iraq. Getting us out of Iraq is really up to the Iraqis anyway.
All the left can do is wring it’s collective hand.
We simply are not in a position to call this, now.
But to naysay it out of the box, without understanding ALL the parameters is assumptive.
I would say as messed up as things are, right now, with the astroturf boys, and such, don’t forget how brilliant Bill Clinton’s administration could be, at times.
Meaning there is most likely a way, but the right President has to see it.
this is her plan. If the Iraqis get their act together, we’re leaving, if Iraq gets more violent, it’s her plan. this is exactly what she’ll do and all the diplomacy is dependent on us not keeping spoils of war or non-military American personnel, and leaving regardless of what happens inside Iraq after we leave. She’s willing to lose the war although of course she says it’s lost already and she’s merely recognizing the reality. That’s way new in an American president and makes her the change candidate, the no-ego candidate, the one who is prepared to be hated by those who think we should stay a hundred years, if that’s what it takes. If you don’t believe it, it’s because you don’t want to think she’s that ethical, that straight with us, and that bold, when no one else is. What a shame.
I dont see it as lost, there are many other avenues by which one can maintain a presence, a strong presence, remember it’s economic, and political, too, not just military.
Again, one of the best suggestions I have read involved allowing Richard Holbrooke to set up a shuttle like diplomacy between Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iraq, for starters.
But we’ve had so many GOOFS in Washington as of late, Bush, Cheney and now Obama, the ultimate goof.
McCain will try to leverage the image of power, but he may be seen as an empty suit, simply because the rhetoric doesn’t match the available power, or the actions. Republicans, after the neocon fest, are seen as morons, the dumbest things going, internationally. US military power, the way it has been gamed, by Cheney, singularly, can be drained, and beat. Iraq has shown that. The nature of warfare changed about 60 years ago, but someone forgot to tell the neocons. If McCain can’t rebuild the US economically, militarily, and politically, the US loses, and I doubt his abilities, simply from what I have seen of his campaign.
And I’m very concerned about his temper.
OTOH, I feel Clinton can grasp the enormity of what needs to be done, the complexity, and will be able to rebuild.
She will be tested tremendously, but she has strength of will, and intellect, to prevail.
And as far as I know, she hasn’t made any true powerful enemies, unlike Obama.
check this out my friends……jeffhead.com i sent it to foxnews and sean hannity. i tried to send it to abc but they spammed it. i will try to send it the stupid dnc, but they probably wont accept it either….the truth marches on !
well, that would be truly amazing, if this were covered in the media and our talking heads talked about their Iraq exit differences, instead of parroting the Obama point that they’re ‘virtually’ the same. The devil is in the details, but this hardly seems like a cosmetic difference, it’s more than half of who needs exiting.
i think it should also be noted that hillary’s foreign service and military advisors are much more experienced and credible then the team obama has gathered. hillary can reach out and immediately task people like general wesley clark … obama, on the other hand, doesnt have the respect of the good general.
And Clark was successful in Bosnia, really, the first American commander to stabilize terrorist induced chaos, not easy, given what we’re seeing now.
Obama’s military support seems to be made up of morons, the guys we’re glad are out of the Pentagon, those who LOSE wars.
Obama’s posers are those stupid generals who think the army is the same as IBM middle management, no more required than showing up, no proof of competency needed but respect MUST be accorded, because, well, they’re flag officers, soldiers, even if they’re supporting a man with terrorist ties. What’s the military term for that? Traitor? Senile? Kook? Drunk?
Did his guys ever see serious, sustained battle, like the soldiers in Iraq? What about Farrakhan, Qaddafi, and Lockerbie?
Look at McPeak.
A lot of resources are going into sustaining Obama’s campaign, he’s draining everyone, and he’s supposed to be the leader, here.
Usually that’s a clue you’re losing, whether it’s Iraq, or Obama.
Not every flag officer is admirable, or even capable.
Clinton is creating energy, you know?
mcpeak is a neighbor of mine … his wife does a so-so job on the city council but the less said about him … is much better.
most of the retired military that i know think mcpeak was and is a joke.
we’ll get out as carefully as we went in carelessly
Haha. Axelrøve’s entire strategy is to not let the candidate get bogged down by details or any sort of policy promises. Axelrøve says himself campaigns are not about policies anymore. They’re personality cults and the candidates must try to appeal to as wide a demographic as possible. Mostly by saying different things to different groups.
It’s Mussolini au gratin.
ROFL.