Obama Attempts to Deceive the Superdelegates
By Bud White on April 25, 2008 at 8:41 PM in Advertising, Bamboozling, Barack Obama, Clinton, DNC, Electoral College, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Popular Vote, Presidential Candidates, Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., Small town America, Superdelegates
After Obama’s devastating defeat in Pennsylvania, the Obama campaign released a memo addressed to the superdelegates but published in the Wall Street Journal which argues that Obama would be the strongest candidate in the Fall against McCain. The memo is so deeply flawed that Jerome Armstrong ridicules it as “satire,” and “exhibit A” for “intellectual dishonesty”:
I don’t know that I’ve ever seen anything a campaign poll memo that so obviously cherry-picks polls over the last 4 months to make their case. It’s almost satire. Some rookie mailed it in on behalf of the Obama campaign’s “memo to the superdelegates”. I couldn’t imagine a known political blogger creating this list, and not being laughed and mocked out of the blogosphere.
Not only are the polls cited by Obama Inc. stale, but much has transpired since many of these polls were taken. Most importantly, Rev. Wright has entered the nation’s consciousness and Obama–contrary to his claims–failed to repudiate Wright.
Obama was able to blunt criticism in the media by giving his “race” speech, but the public at large has turned off to Obama and the rational for his candidacy has vanished.
A simple overview of the Pennsylvania results demostrates this fact. Hillary won 60 out of 67 counties in Pennsylvania and took every group except African Americans and those earning over $150,000 a year. In the critical state of Pennsylvania, Rasmussen Reports in a poll released today that Hillary leads McCain by 5 points but McCain beats Obama by 1 point. That’s after Obama spent $11.2 million on ads and six weeks in the state. If the Obama campaign wants superdelegates to look at numbers, then these numbers from Pennsylvania must be considered:
According to exit polls, Hillary won voters most concerned about the economy by 16 points (58-42) and union households by 18 points (59-41). She won those with incomes between 100K and 150K by 20 points (60-40); white women by 32 points (66-34) and Catholics by 38 points (69-31). She won those who decided on the last day (59-41), the last three days (58-42) and the last week (54-46).
This mis-leading memo from Obama puts to rest the notion that Obama has the nomination wrapped up. Perhaps the most egregious lie in the memo was the omission of Florida and Ohio. Chris Cillizza writes:
Two states that are not mentioned in the Obama memo are Florida, the key battleground in the 2000 presidential race, and Ohio, the Florida of the 2004 contest.
Do you want to guess why Obama left out the two most critical battle ground states?
the average of all polling in Florida puts McCain at 45 percent and Clinton at 42 percent, while Obama trails McCain, 49 percent to 38 percent. The same is true in Ohio, where Clinton leads McCain, 49.5 percent to 43 percent, while McCain led Obama, 45.5 percent to 43 percent.
By any fair metric, the race for the nomination is a tie. The superdelegates have the fiduciary duty to select the strongest candidate to face McCain. The superdelegates require the best and most accurate information to make their choice. The Obama campaign’s untruthful memo is an insulting piece of propaganda masquerading as a polling memo. They should take Obama’s sophistry into consideration when making their selection.
Paul Krugman best describes Obama’s inability to connect with much of the Democratic base in places the memo omits:
From the beginning, I wondered what Mr. Obama’s soaring rhetoric, his talk of a new politics and declarations that “we are the ones we’ve been waiting for” (waiting for to do what, exactly?) would mean to families troubled by lagging wages, insecure jobs and fear of losing health coverage. The answer, from Ohio and Pennsylvania, seems pretty clear: not much.
bud white
the head of the snake is david axelrod.
that’s where all the rove-like deceit and dishonestly comes from.
check out that snake’s professional history?
the puzzle will be solved.
Does Axlerod have some connection to Rove? I thought I read that some where once, but cannot find it. Maybe it was just that he is ‘Rove like.’ Anyone know for sure?
I’m not sure, but a little due diligence might be in order…the kind that wasn’t practiced over in Obamaland.
Good question….Rove and Axelrod seem to be twin sons of different mothers…
The memo doesn’t have any logic whatsoever. After I saw that memo, it has become clear to me why Obama supporters can’t see the real Obama. If they buy the memo, they don’t have any logic.
Interesting coincidence this good post Bud because I was just asking whether people thought Obama’s camp bribes the Super Delegates. I learned about his PAC, called the Hope Fund America which makes hefty donations to politicians that Obama favors.
So I’m not surprised to hear that he’s lying about the number to the SDs. What a fraud! All hope and change from Washington politics and then he’s absolutely corrupt and corrupting.
See Jerome’s latest?
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/25/2085/31235
Mary Jo
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Obama’s humiliating loss in Pennsylvania has made him and his surrogates a little nervous, but does he have to be so transparently desperate?
see the obama camp thinks they can make up for losses in FL, PA and HO by winning Idado, WY, SD and ND, Utah. The math always works.
LOL. I am thinking that Obama has a really excellent chance of carrying Utah. My husband was born and grew up there. He never saw an AA until he and his mother visited Reno when he was around ten years old. He was so thunderstruck that he kept asking his mother what kind of ink the guy fell in. He said it is the strangest feeling to not know. Of course, he and his mother did not have television back then so it was pretty much a different world than now. But it gives me a laugh every time I see the idea that Obamatrons think winning Utah is meaningful.
That is priceless…..I’m Mitt Romney and I approve your comment…LOL
Pathetic.
Thanks for the post Bud!
Interesting reading, and yes, it seems things have changed a wee bit since Rev. Wright entered the lexicon.
Cillizza is correct about the battle for the hearts and minds of the delegates, I’d elaborate, but unfortunately it’s Friday and I’ve had a little too much wine…
The bottom line here is just what you so plainly stated,
Have a good weekend!
P.S.
I forgot to add that the author of this memo must be dreaming if they think Obama will carry Texas (based on their dynamic caucus results no doubt!).
I’ll give them Colorado and Virginia, but they are on crack if they think the Lone Star State is in their column!
Thanks for nice words. There’s a very, very slim chance that Obama could carry CO, no way in TX, IMO.
There’s no logic in the memo because it’s premise is the same as that of the Obama campaign: raw emotion.
Where is their journalistic integrity when they publish this garbage? I’m surprised CBS, MSNBC, or CNN haven’t put this on the air, as if it was the gospel truth. Unfortunately, unless you are a political junkie, and you hear it on the news-you believe it.
But, but… Hillary’s MEAN! And Monica!
If the Obama campaign is going to start using numbers relating to how electable Obama is in the GE that is a great sign for Hillary. That shifts the focus away from number of pledged delegates and popular vote arguments.
I think Hillary has the more compelling argument if people are honest with their numbers and don’t leave out states.
It could be Hillary has begun to shift the debate to where she wants it and where it should be: who is more electable against McCain as opposed to who should get the nomination purely based on delegates and popular vote. Naturally Obama supporters will want to keep the debate away from the electablity question as much as possible.
The only polls that count are those on election day. There will be no caucuses in November for moveon.org to pack. And even more important is the electoral college itself.
If you total all of the electoral votes of the states where Hillary has beaten Obama in the popular vote, you fall just a few votes shy of the number needed to win the presidency. This counts Florida, where both were on the ballot, but not Michigan, where Obama was not (although Hillary would have won anyway). Below is a list and a total.
Note that I include Texas. The Obamatrons will say that Obama won Texas, but that was only in the caucuses which many working people could not attend. Hillary spanked him 51%-47% in the voting in which everyone could participate, as they will on election day.
Arizona 15
Arkansas 6
California 55
Florida 27
Massachusetts 12
New Hampshire 3
New Jersey 15
New Mexico 5
New York 31
Ohio 20
Oklahoma 7
Pennsylvannia 21
Rhode Island 3
Tennessee 11
Texas 34
Total 265
Needed to win: 270
And just think, Hillary lost Missouri by 1 percentage point.
What do we know about this deal?
http://thepage.time.com/obama-dnc-fundraising-deal/
That out of the 2 democratic candidates left, only 1 is a part of that deal.
But you know he is the nominee in the odd world of Oblowmeeland. *(just love the Oblowmee)*
I meant the new word Oblowmee, not the actual person.
THIS is the memo that should be sent to the Super Delegates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent point. The Obamacans start with the premise that they can carry red states. I think that’s a flawed way to view the electoral map. You start with Gore/Kerry states and then add purple states.
You are correct….When I saw the Pa. county map it was almost a copy of the Tex. county map….Given that Clinton won all but 3-4 counties in a giant state ( I coulda sworn she was a republican ) she was that dominant…I think that even in this heavily republican state she could be competetive….The 90’s were some good economic years …BABY-O the caucuses were a sham….
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/7362037.stm
BBC America had a profile on Obama tonight….focusing on his Chicago links…check it out..
When do we see American media do a story like this…
Focusing on Rezko,etc.
We don’t need the bloody American media when we have you finding this and posting it on this blog. Thank you!
That’s a good sign….BBC is often ahead of the curve when compared to our msm.
You know once I did my own critical analysis during the drumbeat to war, and there was an ave. lag time of weeks before a story would show up in the american msm after it had been covered by the BBC. It’s the largest News organization in the world…It has it’s problems but on the whole the depth and analysis is far superior….Every year they cover the AIDS epidemic globally for 30 days leading up to the world conference..
Well done Bud.
Going to the links, Gloria,thanks.
Comment by jd | 2008-04-25 21:09:19
see the obama camp thinks they can make up for losses in FL, PA and HO by winning Idado, WY, SD and ND, Utah. The math always works.
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jd –
My sentiments exactly. Let’s see now, this is Sen. Obama and David Axelrod’s answer to anyone that does not vote for them — throw ‘em under the bus. He has now announced we don’t need:
oh yeah, and typical white people.
1)working class dems to win in November (cause they vote Repub anyway) — really? Those are the votes that put Bill Clinton over the top and won the election for him.
2) us pesky white women (gosh, we’re annoying they way we love us our Hillary — just cause she’s ten times more qualified than Barack. Hmmm, how silly of us)
3) bitter gun toting bible thumpers (Obama also said today that working class voters in WI voted for him where PA did not because they are practical and have more common sense. So, now PA voters are not only bitter, they are stupid — great — and he thinks he’s going to get these votes how??)
4) pro-choice democrats (said we don’t get how abortion is a “wrenching moral issue” — sensitive as usual, Senator)
5) “garlic-nosed” Italians (courtesy Rev. Wright)
6) catholics
7) anyone in the AA community not voting for him is a race-traitor (way to go, Mr. Unity Hopey Changey)
Let’s see — who else doesn’t he need?
Oh, yeah, right, cause he’s going to make it up in those red states that Dems always carry like Wyoming — Surely Republicans and Independents don’t care that he is in bed with Rezko or sat at the foot of this racist and divisive Rev. Wright who says God D*amn America.” Yeah, they will RUSH out to vote for him.
His campaign crew really have not yet graduated high school, have they?
Ehemmm…..Annagain…..I personally prefer the term typical cracker…. …Thanks…I’m just sayin’,,,chuckle
“Obama was able to blunt criticism in the media by giving his “race” speech, but the public at large has turned off to Obama and the rational for his candidacy has vanished.”
The only question I have is: WHO is still voting for this guy? I agree that he has been damaged, but to say that “the public at large has turned off to Obama” doesn’t explain why he is in a dead heat in Indiana. I don’t get it–I thought people would be running away in droves. Any thoughts?
i think that some of us are very aware of what’s going on. a lot of people, however, aren’t paying tons of attention and aren’t reading all the blogs and articles, etc. so the obamaites put out repetitive, but misleading, stories basically spouting his propaganda. and the msm repeat it and bless it. and people who work 2 jobs and raise kids and do volunteer work, etc., don’t have time or energy to double-check. they believe their local news people and paper and the anchors on tv wouldn’t lie to them. sadly, they’re wrong.
jmho.
I was REALLY disappointed in Moyers tonight. Complete softball interview. He practically held his hand. He accepted all of Wright’s rationalizations and explanations and did not confront him with most of the crude and inflammatory language from his publicized sermons (infecting AA’s with AIDS, Bill’s ‘riding dirty,’ etc.), or confront him regarding his new $10 million home. It was all very civil and framed Wright as a “victim.”
Moyers: “What blues are you singing?”
Wright: “Why you treat me so bad?”
Because you asked for it, that’s why.
“The only question I have is: WHO is still voting for this guy? I agree that he has been damaged, but to say that “the public at large has turned off to Obama” doesn’t explain why he is in a dead heat in Indiana. I don’t get it–I thought people would be running away in droves. Any thoughts?”
Someone on CNN or MSNBC made the point that northwestern Indiana is more or less a suburb of Chicago and gets Chicago TV. So he is the hometown candidate there.
But does that compensate enough for the rest of the state?
BABY-O’s Chicago links won’t play well in IN….It is a pretty conservative state…I don’t see him doing well outside Gary….
Bill Maher said Hill should stay in the Race!! Ha Ha.
Humiliating loss in Penn?? Devestating defeat?
What a bunch of crap! He was 20 down 6 weeks ago and lost by 9.
You all need to stop drinking that Clinton Kool-aid. She uses Republican talking points against a fellow democrat! Pathetic.
Ehemmmm…Robert C….Fetue te ipsum!….and bite your pillow. Your candidate is on a downward slide and it will get messy….
The first thing I noticed in the Memo were these survery dates, Please tell me the SD aren;t THAT dumb to fall for this? I mean, I’ve lost alot of respect for them this season but truely hope they are that stupid.
California: Obama beats McCain by 27, Clinton beats him by 23. (SurveyUSA, 2/23)
• New York: A February poll of Clinton’s home state shows her beating McCain by 11, while Obama beats McCain by 10. (Quinnipiac, 3/18)
• New Jersey: Obama and Clinton both beat McCain by 5. (Farleigh Dickinson, 3/30)
• Illinois: Obama beats McCain by 29 in his home state, while Clinton wins by 9. (SurveyUSA, 2/28)
Yep, are they really that stupid? Shouldn’t they be offended that Obama’s campaign maybe thinks they are?
Mimi,
About Missouri what happened was at quitting time all the “gun toting, bible clinging, bitter rural folk” couldn’t get to polls because there was an awful storm.
My husband’s people live in southern MO. so I know. It depressed the turnout because ice, etc. gets very treacherous down in the Ozarks. As proof of this(that Hillary would have won MO) Hillary took 111-115 ,I think ,counties in the state. The reason Survey USA had her winning is because she would have were it not for the weather. Kansas City was close but St. Louis sealed it for BO . We were crushed that Jean Carnahan went with BO because Bill Clinton idolized her husband Mel, one of our most popular governors (They are from the disloyal wing of the democratic party ).He was tragically killed in a plane crash while running for the Senate. As for MCCaskill she’s the biggest opportunist the state has ever seen. She challenged Bob Holden in the primary and he lost To Blunt in the general.She runs for offices to move up the ladder and cares only about herself. Who does that remind you of???
i do hope your family and all the other good missourians can make sure mccaskill loses her job. she does remind me of bo.
i remember her disgusting lying face back when the snub incident happened - anyone not blinded by koolaid could tell she was lying, even without seeing the video of the actual snub. i despise women who are willing to betray other women who have blazed the trail that enabled them to get where they are. i think i despise them even more than the men who take advantage of their stupidity.
A line got cut off MCCaskill and the Carnahans are from the disloyal wing of the democratic party.
I have been going around talking to different people in Indiana and so far they are not planning on voting for Obama. They feel they deserve a debate and Obama wont debate. Also they know the crime rate in Chicago is so bad along with the economy and Obama did not do anything about it or any other issues from that state.
[…] Obama Attempts to Deceive the Superdelegates (by Bud White at No Quarter) After Obama’s devastating defeat in Pennsylvania, the Obama campaign released a memo addressed to the superdelegates but published in the Wall Street Journal which argues that Obama would be the strongest candidate in the Fall against McCain. The memo is so deeply flawed that Jerome Armstrong ridicules it as “satire,” and “exhibit A” for “intellectual dishonesty”…Not only are the polls cited by Obama Inc. stale, but much has transpired since many of these polls were taken…. Hillary won 60 out of 67 counties in Pennsylvania and took every group except African Americans and those earning over $150,000 a year. […]
I think that we all need to be honest and acknowledge that Obama, a U.S. Senator who is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law, indeed offers the American people a very different choice than either McCain or Hillary. In the crucial “What to do with one’s hands while facing the flag during the National Anthem” poll, the following results were recorded:
McCain: Right hand over heart
Hillary: Right hand over heart
Obama: Both hands holding crotch
Opposition organizations are already putting together the ads, and the image is so powerful that there is no voice over. None is needed.