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		<title>By: Kazelffb</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-274053</link>
		<dc:creator>Kazelffb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kazelwhl</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kazelrjs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kazelrjs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-210474</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberman:  it is you who is are clearly unfamiliar with the history of the State of Israel. 

When that even took place in 1946 Israel didn't existed as a state yet. That came in 1948. The bombing of the British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem by the Irgun (which indeed killed British, Arabs and Jewish) under Begin's leadership was atrocious. It was also the reason for the debacle between the Irgun and the Haganah and then the dismantling of the Jewish resistance movement at the request of Weizmann. 

The history of the creation of the State of Israel is very complex and long. And your cheap shot clearly reflects your ignorance and your hate for Israel.

To compare the struggle of the Jewish people many (like Begin) coming directly from the Holocaust to Palestine to fight the english with the 60's and the weather undergound a group of mostly spoiled brats 
living in the United States of America is absurd.
Moreover, Ayres is, to this date, unrepentant. 
Begin recieved the Peace Nobel Prize for Israel and Egipt peace treaty.

And all of this is besides the point for it is not anyone associated to Begin;  but Obama who is intimately associated to Ayres the one who is runing for President of the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberman:  it is you who is are clearly unfamiliar with the history of the State of Israel. </p>
<p>When that even took place in 1946 Israel didn&#8217;t existed as a state yet. That came in 1948. The bombing of the British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem by the Irgun (which indeed killed British, Arabs and Jewish) under Begin&#8217;s leadership was atrocious. It was also the reason for the debacle between the Irgun and the Haganah and then the dismantling of the Jewish resistance movement at the request of Weizmann. </p>
<p>The history of the creation of the State of Israel is very complex and long. And your cheap shot clearly reflects your ignorance and your hate for Israel.</p>
<p>To compare the struggle of the Jewish people many (like Begin) coming directly from the Holocaust to Palestine to fight the english with the 60&#8217;s and the weather undergound a group of mostly spoiled brats<br />
living in the United States of America is absurd.<br />
Moreover, Ayres is, to this date, unrepentant.<br />
Begin recieved the Peace Nobel Prize for Israel and Egipt peace treaty.</p>
<p>And all of this is besides the point for it is not anyone associated to Begin;  but Obama who is intimately associated to Ayres the one who is runing for President of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: Smilin' Jim</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-210142</link>
		<dc:creator>Smilin' Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-210142</guid>
		<description>Wiesenthal does have something to bitch about.

Ayers walked because the DOJ screwed the pooch: He's the Weather Underground's OJ.  

However, I think that the way you slant your tactic in pillorying Obama for Ayers's past will turn on you since most of the stuff currently written about it is bullshit.

In the first instance Ayers completely repudiated the NYT whack job that is furnishing all the  &lt;em&gt;"Ayers does not feel one shred of remorse"&lt;/em&gt; statements.  Ayers own words on this are:

&lt;a href="http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/clarifying-the-facts-a-letter-to-the-new-york-times-9-15-2001/" rel="nofollow"&gt;"My memoir is from start to finish a condemnation of terrorism, of the indiscriminate murder of human beings, whether driven by fanaticism or official policy."&lt;/a&gt;

That's repudiation enough for anyone.  He guilty as hell but unless you push aside the Fifth Amendment you're still up the creek.

Sooner or later, an opponent with a few wits to rub together will gut you with your argument.  Rather, I would approach the whole Ayers thing this way.

Obama is a construct, a Ken doll put together over the years that looks like this:

He went by Barry until it was time to be black.  He then went by Barack, started attending the church run by that batshit crazy Rev and additionally started channeling Malcolm X.  &lt;em&gt;Hoodwinked&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;bamboozled&lt;/em&gt; went right to the cortex of anyone who was black and completely over the heads of anyone who was white and not eligible for Social Security.

He uses one or two speeches over and over.  His latest bittergate problem is illustrious of that.  Post bittergate, Charlie Rose ran a puff piece on Obama where he gave the Pennsylvania Senator that supports Obama a half hour of very cloying air time.  This was followed by a 2004 interview in which Obama repeated, almost word-for-word the same speech minus the snake handler Jesus freak and survivalist gun nut spin.  The difference was the audience.  The 2004 Rose interview went out over PBS to a diverse audience but the 2008 bittergate speech was before a group of San Francisco liberals who think that everything east of I-880, south of Palo Alto and north of Marin is overrun by a cabal of The American Nazi Party, the John Birch Society and the NRA.

The Ayers connection is just another part of the construct.  Ayers and Dohrrn have cachet with those who are growing misty-eyed over the old days of the 60's (even though there wasn't even a Weatherman faction until the SDS meltdown in '69)

Thus the Ayers connection builds a bridge to the aging New Left and their kids, the well-off, educated yuppies that are the core of this support amongst whites.

The kid is a phoney, not a terrorist:  He makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X. 

(sorry Chappelle)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wiesenthal does have something to bitch about.</p>
<p>Ayers walked because the DOJ screwed the pooch: He&#8217;s the Weather Underground&#8217;s OJ.  </p>
<p>However, I think that the way you slant your tactic in pillorying Obama for Ayers&#8217;s past will turn on you since most of the stuff currently written about it is bullshit.</p>
<p>In the first instance Ayers completely repudiated the NYT whack job that is furnishing all the  <em>&#8220;Ayers does not feel one shred of remorse&#8221;</em> statements.  Ayers own words on this are:</p>
<p><a href="http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/clarifying-the-facts-a-letter-to-the-new-york-times-9-15-2001/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;My memoir is from start to finish a condemnation of terrorism, of the indiscriminate murder of human beings, whether driven by fanaticism or official policy.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s repudiation enough for anyone.  He guilty as hell but unless you push aside the Fifth Amendment you&#8217;re still up the creek.</p>
<p>Sooner or later, an opponent with a few wits to rub together will gut you with your argument.  Rather, I would approach the whole Ayers thing this way.</p>
<p>Obama is a construct, a Ken doll put together over the years that looks like this:</p>
<p>He went by Barry until it was time to be black.  He then went by Barack, started attending the church run by that batshit crazy Rev and additionally started channeling Malcolm X.  <em>Hoodwinked</em> and <em>bamboozled</em> went right to the cortex of anyone who was black and completely over the heads of anyone who was white and not eligible for Social Security.</p>
<p>He uses one or two speeches over and over.  His latest bittergate problem is illustrious of that.  Post bittergate, Charlie Rose ran a puff piece on Obama where he gave the Pennsylvania Senator that supports Obama a half hour of very cloying air time.  This was followed by a 2004 interview in which Obama repeated, almost word-for-word the same speech minus the snake handler Jesus freak and survivalist gun nut spin.  The difference was the audience.  The 2004 Rose interview went out over PBS to a diverse audience but the 2008 bittergate speech was before a group of San Francisco liberals who think that everything east of I-880, south of Palo Alto and north of Marin is overrun by a cabal of The American Nazi Party, the John Birch Society and the NRA.</p>
<p>The Ayers connection is just another part of the construct.  Ayers and Dohrrn have cachet with those who are growing misty-eyed over the old days of the 60&#8217;s (even though there wasn&#8217;t even a Weatherman faction until the SDS meltdown in &#8216;69)</p>
<p>Thus the Ayers connection builds a bridge to the aging New Left and their kids, the well-off, educated yuppies that are the core of this support amongst whites.</p>
<p>The kid is a phoney, not a terrorist:  He makes Bryant Gumbel look like Malcolm X. </p>
<p>(sorry Chappelle)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Delyon</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-209574</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Delyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 08:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven't you figured out that LJ and his Clintonista insurgents have no &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;shame&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;?... 

I know they like to sling the poop at everything Obama and anything anti Billary, but they seriously have &lt;strong&gt;no shame&lt;/strong&gt; these days. 

And I used to think LJ was credible and intelligent......

Egads...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t you figured out that LJ and his Clintonista insurgents have no <strong><em>shame</em></strong>?&#8230; </p>
<p>I know they like to sling the poop at everything Obama and anything anti Billary, but they seriously have <strong>no shame</strong> these days. </p>
<p>And I used to think LJ was credible and intelligent&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Egads&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve J.</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-209372</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-209372</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;As he [Ayers] stated in a different interview, he regrets he did not do more. &lt;/em&gt;

"We of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations who participated in the decisions on Vietnam acted according to what we thought were the principles and traditions of this nation. We made our decisions in light of those values. &lt;strong&gt;Yet we were wrong, terribly wrong. We owe it to future generations to explain why.&lt;/strong&gt;"

&lt;strong&gt;Robert S.McNamara,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;IN RETROSPECT:THE TRAGEDY AND LESSONS OF VIETNAM&lt;/em&gt;by ROBERT S. MCNAMARA WITH BRIAN VANDEMARK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>As he [Ayers] stated in a different interview, he regrets he did not do more. </em></p>
<p>&#8220;We of the Kennedy and Johnson administrations who participated in the decisions on Vietnam acted according to what we thought were the principles and traditions of this nation. We made our decisions in light of those values. <strong>Yet we were wrong, terribly wrong. We owe it to future generations to explain why.</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Robert S.McNamara,</strong><em>IN RETROSPECT:THE TRAGEDY AND LESSONS OF VIETNAM</em>by ROBERT S. MCNAMARA WITH BRIAN VANDEMARK</p>
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		<title>By: Steve J.</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-209359</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;But he [Ayers] did monstrous things&lt;/em&gt;

Like what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>But he [Ayers] did monstrous things</em></p>
<p>Like what?</p>
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		<title>By: Reverend Wrong</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-209309</link>
		<dc:creator>Reverend Wrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-209309</guid>
		<description>Sorry I misunderstood you. I thought you meant Ayers was "the bomber."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I misunderstood you. I thought you meant Ayers was &#8220;the bomber.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Lieberman</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-209302</link>
		<dc:creator>Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/04/25/what-would-simon-wiensenthal-say/#comment-209302</guid>
		<description>Sorry I wasn't clear, or you didn't get my point:

The "bomber" I referred to was Menachim Begin, i.e. a former bomber became Prime Minister of Israel.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
You are clearly unfamiliar with the history of the State of Israel, where the largest terrorist act took place when Shin Bet’s Zionist Menachem Begin bombed the King David Hotel filled with women and children, an act planned and executed in agreement with the highest Jewish political authorities in Palestine, the Jewish Agency, and its head, David-Ben-Gurion.
In case you think Obama shouldn’t have served on the same community board with the bomber, you should also know that Menachem Begin became Israel’s sixth Prime Minister.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I wasn&#8217;t clear, or you didn&#8217;t get my point:</p>
<p>The &#8220;bomber&#8221; I referred to was Menachim Begin, i.e. a former bomber became Prime Minister of Israel.</p>
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You are clearly unfamiliar with the history of the State of Israel, where the largest terrorist act took place when Shin Bet’s Zionist Menachem Begin bombed the King David Hotel filled with women and children, an act planned and executed in agreement with the highest Jewish political authorities in Palestine, the Jewish Agency, and its head, David-Ben-Gurion.<br />
In case you think Obama shouldn’t have served on the same community board with the bomber, you should also know that Menachem Begin became Israel’s sixth Prime Minister.</p></blockquote>
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