Lanny Davis and Evan Bayh Throw Down the Gauntlet
By SusanUnPC on April 23, 2008 at 6:38 PM in ABC News, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Indiana, North Carolina
Barack Obama and Howard Dean, “You are served.” (Do you think that Howard Dean should resign his DNC chairmanship if he indeed had a role, behind the scenes, in getting Barack Obama out of the debate in North Carolina on April 27?)
Barack Obama: You can try to run from another debate, but you can’t hide. And today, Lanny Davis challenged you to debate in North Carolina (which you’re running from) and Evan Bayh challenged you to debate in Indiana. The people of both states deserve to hear the candidates debate.
Howard Dean: You can’t aid and abet Barack Obama’s all-consuming fear of looking like a fool and a liar in another debate, as he did in last Wednesday’s ABC debate. Lanny Davis went so far as to say you should resign if — in fact — you did abet Obama’s run from the next scheduled debate on April 27th.
Lannie Davis today, on Fox News, lowered the boom on Obama and Dean:
Barack, are you really that afraid of Katie Couric? (We know you’re scared s–tless of Hillary, but surely Katie will be easier than the ABC News team, right?) Are you that much of a wuss, Barack? If you are, let us know now. We can’t afford a president presidential nominee (because that’s as far as he’d get) who’s a wuss.
On today’s Clinton conference call with the media, Sen. Evan Bayh challenged Barack Obama to a debate in the state of Indiana. Bayh told the press that the people of Indiana deserve a chance to hear the two candidates debate in their state, about their issues.
We agree.
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Special thanks to C.S. for the video and to Campskunk for the image.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Why, yes, the gangsta is THAT much of a wuss…
Flip that finger, bama…
I edited that. He won’t be president, but since it is somewhat possible he will be a presidential nominee, I substituted that.
FINALLY…..Someone on national TV is saying RECALL that incompetent DEAN THE PUTZ…..This really cheered me up this morning….As Iv’e said before…refusing to debate after Philly is a big mistake…methinks.
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This is a phrase is going to be a classic. I think that characterization fits him perfectly — I’m passing it along…
The gansta is a wuss… flip that finger, bama!
FUCK YOU
Awwwwwwwww. You mad???
Must be real hard for Obama to being handling Uppity if the Muslim influence on his thinking ever kicks in..some of those arrogant posaes of his, loking Down on Hillary, especially the one behind her back..makes me think so..
I meant to be in a contest where a White woman like hillary is going toe to toe with obama, and even appears to have more stanima, so much so that even the MSM STARS are Impressed with hillary today and being more concilatory and respectful towards her..
Uppirty..I have no doubt Senator obama would fine you EQUALLY Challenging..Hillary is not alone among GREAT WOMEN..she is justt he One OUT FRONT…
Thank you Patrick, that was really nice of you.
When hillary opens a door for herself, she opens MANY doors for others. The more women who realize that, the better for them.
Uppity, I like what you wrote, and I am in full agreement!
That is a great comment, Uppity
Guess we’re going to have to get the snake pit ready for these sick puppies.
I can’t stop laughing. These are the same asswipes who have insulted Hillary supporters left and left and they can’t take it, just like their scared shitless lider. They’re even too stupid to stay on their own blogs where they can massage each other’s egos and drink kool-aid.
Can you imagine a Hillary supporter showing up on one of their blogs and flipping everyone off like that? Of course not. We try to debate the issues. But they always go back to their primal screams and temper tantrums.
And still they can’t figure out
WHY NONE OF US WILL SUPPORT YOUR CANDIDATE should he be the nominee.
Mimi, didn’t you hear?
Evidently we’re all ignorant, fat old ladies and we should never have been enfranchised in the first place!
It’s been so decreed (and probably seconded).
Such is the state of feminism in the 21st century…makes ya proud don’t it??????
Obama clan are having a bad day. they can’t rack their brains for a more sophisticate word to express their opinion.
Little baby is like his candidate, a whiner, a bully and a scaredy cat. Wah, wah, wah - I am not going to debate because you guys are so mean and I can’t answer the questions.
Couldn’t Obama just flick off a little Hillary dust off his shoulder. Wow that is so kewl –NOT.
Well, it’s true that you are a shouter. But a shouter of truth? I. DON’T. THINK. SO.
I bet you write that with your dirty fingers. Ha ha. Obamabots are such…
Truth Pouter
Go sit in the corner! Stop that right now or you’ll go to bed without any dinner!
i guess you think that gansta is cool also, huh! well i have to tell you that you don’t yell any truth!
You are representing the candidate whom you support; your behavior is just one of the reasons why those of us supporting Hillary are doing so…Senator Obama behaves in similar ways - like a child. He wants to be left alone to eat his WAFFLE. Take a good hard look in the mirror and then ask yourself why is it so many millions of people are backing Senator Clinton, and believe that she would be the best candidate to be POTUS.
There is no need to respond to any one’s comments on this blog with such rudeness and immaturity. If you back Senator Obama fine, that is a good thing. Some of us don’t, so let us have our say. If you can’t take the heat, don’t let the kitchen door hit ya on the way out. A little kindness from all of us goes a long long way, so let us practice it a little more, huh?
Just in case it is not evident, my comments were directed towards TRUTHSHOUTER…
I think truthshouter needs his mouth washed out with soap, don’t you?
Truthshouter….sounds like a PETULANT PILLOW BITER….methinks…..
OOOh you shouldn’t say that to Obama!
Barack doesn’t talk to women. He hangs out with Pakistanis who set uppity women on fire over there. A woman just handed him his butt on a plate last night. He needs to go do his primal screams before he melts, Katie makes him twitch. He’s afraid to talk to anyone now, and just arrogant enough to think he doesn’t have to.
Time. It just isn’t Barry’s friend, is it?
Not when You use a “Cockoo Clock’ like He has..
uppity well said. Obama really has a problem with women. Now he won’t speak to anyone. Just let him eat his waffles, so that he can waffle on endlessly about how great he is.
Even CNN can’t cover for this wimp any longer.
Did you hear John King calling him the dreaded D-word? That’s Dukakis for the young ‘uns. I guess I have to start using words with apostrophes since the Obama campaign has called us “white trash”. Grrr.
Who is going to “rescue” him from unpleasant situations when he’s president? Michelle?
That’s an easy question.
Conference call with himself, Bill Ayers, Rashid Khalidi and Reverend Wright.
He says in debates she’s in her element. Was anyone else surprised he admitted that? He’s an okay guy, he’s just not the best candidate of the two. howard doesn’t want Hillary for his own reasons, and it’s no surprise he has his thumb on debates. Barack however took a long time to agree to the last three, well four, but he backed out of the last one. The timing could not be worse, they’re talking issues now, and he can explain why his foreign policy diplomacy will work, he thinks, better than hers, why his exit iraq plan that keeps those private armies guarding American contractors is better than her get everyone out, that’s the only way to real diplomacy, plan. And the more they debate these issues, the more free publicity the dem’s get and the more we’re the news, and McCain/George aren’t. One would think, all things being equal, that that would suit howard’s 50-state strategy, but then you’d also think seating Florida and allowing Michigan a revote would equally suit him. I think when she wins Howard knows he’ll be looking for a new job. Hillary gets rid of hacks. It’s her thang, you know, competent, professional government? That works?
He’s not in his element anywhere except in a chanting rally. Impromptu he is downright embarrassing.
Can you imagine if he were POTUS and he had a tough press conference to attend? Someone on CNN today said that speaking off the top of his head isn’t one of his strong points. You think?? Tantrums don’t hold water in the White House press room.
I find it interesting as in law school I believe most students study debate and rhetoric…don’t they….Even if they choose not to be trial lawyers, they still have to write arguments in briefs…..Baby-O just didn’t study hard enough….he has been so protected by his faction and a colluding msm that he performed poorly….Who does this guy think he’s kidding…How will baby-O react to hard questions from world leaders….JEEEEEZUS….He’s makin GWB look like he’s got a spine in comparison…..
Howard Dean needs to be fired NOW! He is the most incompetent and inept jerk this party has seen. Get him out. Get Pelosi out too, these folks are a joke. If they nominate Obama without seating Florida and Michigan as the primaries were held, I’m voting straight republican ticket. I’m sure as h-e-double-l not voting for my disgrace of a congresswoman Claire McCaskill of Missouri. She is a hag.
i do like the fact that davis is on faux letting the doctor(dean) know that we are on to him and he had better get his resume updated.
big smile! i wonder if gore ever returned brazile’s call. she was supposed to be calling him to get us on the “right track” as it were.
http://www.cagle.com/news/ObamaBitterWords/images/darcyw.jpg
funniest cartoon of obama
check it out
that cartoon is FUNNY!
If Howard Dean’s finger prints are on this, then he does need to go.
I am with Lanny Davis on this ….
I agree….Dean the Putz must go…..I think his credibility as Nat’l. Party Chair was shot over FL./MI…..But if they can get him on this….FINE…The PUTZ has gotta go…..And when her protecter is gone Donna Brazeal will not be far behind…..I’ve never seen so much corruption in primaries in a long time….Some days I feel like I’m in the WAYBACK MACHINE….it’s gotten so wierd….
http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com/
pls vote on ,,if media has gender bias with hillary
Uppity - you rock. Time is definitly not Barry’s bff - soon the media will no longer be his bff. I said soon. Tonite I did more than cruise through CNN. Crist - governor of Florida, had said on Fox earlier that Hillary is the best candidate for Democrats in Florida. Guess what - Jeff Toobin said ‘of course he would say that - “they”(Repugs) do not want to face big bad BO’………jeesh, if he even gave it a thought he would know the demographics are perfect for Hillary and she already beat him in Florida once. CNN, MSNBC, NBC have zero credibility. Why is the American public saddled with disinformation? For profit for the people who own them.
There are no journalists with objectivity, intelligence or honor - poof! gone. I stopped watching MSM long ago except the “Shock and Awe” Bush war. Thank gawd for blogs, which I may add, the majority are now spewing trash. That is why I come to NoQuarter. That and to get away from the nasty Obamanations
How many of you have been polled about your trust in the two candidates? I haven’t been. I have never had a trust problem with Hillary. The polls are so skewed they are laughable.
I have a question - on MSNBC it was stated that MI/FL would not count in any way. It was stated by someone new = I believe a black female Repug commentator. Anyone know if this is a truth statement or just more hot air?
Well that depends on whether or not the party wants to give up Florida and Michigan in the GE, Boo. You see, they are Swing states and have NO problem voting republican if they are ticked off. Add to that the fact that Barry blocked their revotes and they KNOW it. He did it because he knows his butt would be kicked. RECORD numbers voted in the Florida primary. In Michigan, two Obama thugs and co-chairs on the state senate made sure that the bill for the revote NEVER made it to the senate. Then one of them smirked on video and said, “It’s great to be in the lead”. I have the video. If you saw it you would want to reach thru your screen and smack the arrogant SOB. In other words, Obama got away with blocking two states who don’t want him. So far They WILL be heard. And not AFTER the nomination either.
That is ok, Obama will just win Idaho and Colorada to replace Fla and Mich, he has it all figured out, he wants in the Kerry world, hoping to be given a part of the Heinz forture in Wills!
And don’t forget, he is a Kennedy now as well!
LOL, Mel!
… Remember, Hillary is now ahead in the popular vote. The popular vote in FL and MI are certified. Just because the DNC does not want to count the delegates won in FL and MI because of petty rules and arbitrary rules, does not mean that the election was invalid. The penalty was supposed to penalize the state Democratic party, not to penalize any specific candidate. All the candidates were listed in the FL primary. All the candidates were listed in the MI primary. BUT….Obama, Edwards, Biden and maybe another candidate decided on THEIR OWN to remove their names from the ballot. (because they were all losing big time). They were not required to remove their names. Hillary, Gravel, Dodd and Kucinich left their names on the ballot. The DNC should count the election as is or demand a revote….and if Obama refuses a revote, then the election results stand. Another option is to pick 2 similar type states that Obama won and not count their popular vote or their delegate votes. (if Obama has won 2 big states like she did) I am sure these states won’t mind. and their voters won’t be upset. Just like MI and FL aren’t upset…..(joking). Democracy requires the votes be counted. Howard Dean and his petty rules has no business screwing Hillary Clinton out of a legitimate win or screwing Fl out of their rightful place and votes. The reason Florida has a problem is because the Republican House and Senate in FL would only allow the Democrats to have paper ballots in the fall instead of faulty machines and they tied it to the primary date change. Knowing the Dems could have a problem with the DNC. Although other states violated the rules (like SC, etc) were not punished. Go figure.
Does anyone know about Bruno’s lawsuit in Florida…The Court seemed sympathetic ( giving a blueprint to re-file and get the technicalities in oreder )…..Has he re-filed the suit against the DNC….
I’ve never been polled and neither has my husband. Today he said, “I don’t see why people don’t find her appealing, I think she’s great!” I agree. And I trust her completely, she makes me feel safe. She really IS the candidate of Hope! Hahaha! Stick that in your waffle, Obambi.
Here’s an exchange I had with Toobin. He knows he’s a tool:
Me:I am trying to figure out how you could participate in a televised discussion on CNN last evening where Jack Cafferty could draw an analogy between unemployed Americans and al-Qaeda recruits. Most viewers are all too aware that CNN is totally in the bag for Senator Obama, but that statement is beyond disgraceful. We are not that far removed from an attack on 9/11 where Americans died in Pennsylvania. I cannot for the life of me understand how one candidate has done so much to create such disunity in this country.
Toobin:
It wasn’t me who made that analogy. Thanks for writing. Best, Jeff Toobin
ME:I understand. My concern is that you left it unchallenged. You’re a better journalist than that. I am disappointed in YOU. Cafferty has already discredited himself.
Toobin:
You’re right. I should have spoken up.
He’s just one more CNN whore
That is disappointing….I usually like Toobin…
Fianlly someone calls Dean out, even if Dean didn’t intervene, he had to be called out for all his prior rantings!
The race is over when every vote is counted that is Democracy, not when Dean decides it is over and not when 2 pivotal GE states are not included and not a moment before!
Had one of the candidates sewed this up on Super Tuesday, that is one thing, as Fla and Mich wouldn’t of mattered back then just as most states around this time of year feel left out, but they matter now because disenfranchise them now in the process that is ongoing to the final State is a slap in the face to them and retaliation in Nov will be swift and hard!
Susan
As a former Deaniac how hard is it to write this stuff about Dean? I honestly didn’t like him and thought he was a terrible candidate 4 years ago but was willing to support him for DNC chairman. I guess I got all caught up in the blog thing. Nevertheless, he has been a disaster. There’s no reason it should have come to this with FL & MI.
It’s very painful. Well, it was very painful, but it’s getting less and less so.
I have to call ‘em like I see ‘em. And he is making a huge, huge error in judgment on this one.
He is picking the candidate who stands ZERO chance of winning in November. And he is picking the candidate who will drag down the other Democratic candidates.
Look at the ads the GOP is starting to run in North Carolina against Democratic nominees — the GOP will do that across the country. It’ll be the association with people who HATE this country (like Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers) that will get to voters, and will bother them about any other Dem. candidate who supports Obama. He’ll take the other Dems down with him.
Any thought that Dean is dreaming of picking up Obama’s network for Dean’s own run in 2012?
Ehemmmmm………….HOWL ?……..
Last night Larry King had a panel. One woman whose name I can’t remember said Hillary should take this to the convention cause Florida and Michigan need to be counted. I watched Brazile. She suddenly got up from her chair — Nancy would never allow that — No Nancy would never allow that. Paul Bagalla touched her shoulder to sit her back down and calm her. I think we can see who has Howard’s ear, the rabid Ms. Brazile.
Ooooooooohhh………..Juicy…….
Obama didn’t need Dean to tell him he’s a lousy debater.
well said!
Ooohhh…. Lannie is good. I particularly liked the part where he told Cavuto that “he knows it’s not you saying that,” so cleary and sweetly saying that the “newscaster” is reading from script. Nice Lannie. Showed the guy to be the moron he is, and by obvious implication all these clown fake journalists. Though of course in these pathetic times we have to be happy that Fox exists and as
Rendell said, “at least hates both the candidates.”
But nice throw-down about the debate Lannie. Obama is such a milquetoast. This is the guy who was going to go talk to the heads of state of Iran?
Obama makes Shrub looks like he has common sense.
Where the fuck did that come from? Based on what Lanny Davis?
In 2006, Lanny Davis wrote a letter to the Wall Street Journal accusing liberals and other bloggers of anti-Semitism. In fact, Al Franken debated him about it. That alone should tell you how screwy Lanny Davis is.
Just how politically retarded is Lanny Davis?
Barack Obama didn’t need help to back out of the NC debate. He turned tail and ran like the coward he is after the beating he got in the PA debate. Hillary drove Obama from the debate. But because you hear Lanny Davis accuse Howard Dean on Fox News, suddenly it’s a reading from the Gospel.
ok, then let dean come out and show that he is neutral. let him take care of michigan and florida giving them their rightful place. let him shut up about the process. he is there to support it and not end it. let him do that showing he is doing his job, otherwise i have very serious doubts about him.
BSG and I seldom agree on much about Dean (I can’t stand him), but I guess I missed something while I was at work. How did Dean get pulled into this? What am I missing?
I think the whole PARTY UNITY bit is a clue……No ?…..
Howard Dean has done everything he could to make sure Obama becomes the nominee. He allowed Obama to run ads declaring BE A DEMOCRAT FOR A DAY in a myriad of caucuses. I can tell you that our caucuses in Nevada were run by amateurs because Howard was proud that Caucuses would not cost the states anything. He has decided to apportion delegates rather than winner take all. So in PA because Obama won 7 districts in Philly and Hillary won 60 in the rest of the state — Obama got the most delegates. 5 other states ran their primaries and caucuses earlier than they were supposed to — but only Florida and Michigan paid the price. Now Obama gets out of a debate because he doesn’t want to look bad and you can’t believe that it had anything to do with Dean?
So the blind man who smells the smoke is not entitled to speak?
Sean calling it a “humiliating defeat.”
One thing that is really funny is the statements of many Obamabots and the scripted News media!
Everyone knows Clinton has strong sound grassroot support many who will likely not participate if empty suit wins the nod thanks to media bias, DNP leader bias and the dirty tactics of Obama and his campaign with injecting the race card, baiting and his continual lies!
Obama support on the other hand has some strong graassroot support, but also has rent a Democrat for a day and revelations coming out of even more dirty Camp Obama games, but even so, the rent a Democrat for a day group will return to their party, those in places like Idaho, Colorado, and the wave of other strong Republican States won’t complain that much, and Obama himself has underpinned every attack the Republicans will use against him by his own actions and not those of anyone else!
Add to the mix the letter on McCain’s website to Obama, sets the tone of McCain in his wisdom of attacks, he knows visa vie that letter Obama is a two faced liar and McCain will call him out continually riling up even more GOP support, whereas if Hillary does, she is totaed as being negative!
This is a race for the POTUS, it isn’t a grade 8 class President race. The Race ends in Denver when everyone together is counted and not before, that is what the rulse state, unfortunately Obama doesn’t make the rules, he does break and twist them but he doesn’t set them!
I think it is a stroke of campaign genius to paint Baby-O as the establishment candidate….Particularly when you look at who that esablishment is……Those people have numbered days in office either way this thing goes…..Maybe congress won’t smell 1/2 as bad ?……
I’m from Colorado. In order to vote in the Democratic Caucus you have to have been registered as a Democrat at least 60 days prior to the caucus date. My daughter who just turned 18 was not allowed to vote in the caucus because she did not get registered until early January. So, we are not part of the Democrat for a day crowd.
It really pisses me off that other states allow open primaries and allow primary day registration. I think all states should have the same 60 day policy as Colorado. Independents and Republicans have no business having any voice in the Democratic candidate selection.
I did hate the caucus format. It snowed 15″ on caucus day (so no one got out) so 13 people chose 11 delegates in my precinct.
Later, they’re going to play two anti-Obama videos, probably one we’ve already seen, and a new one (at least to me). Sean is going to be a big help, theoretically, going into NC & IN.
Videos coming up after the commercial.
How pathetic that McCain asked that they not be played but Hillary won’t speak up because she needs to appeal to the racists in this country to try to win.
Btw, she still won’t win.
( SIGH )….CeeHushit….You sound like a PETULANT PILLOW BITER….
You’re right. I was so impressed with Obama’s strong condemnation of Randi Rhodes’ rant at an event that was promoted on his website. His eloquence and reaching out to the women who support Hillary Clinton in her efforts to break the glass ceiling was so awe inspiring that I missed it.
ROFL…..Bee I think you should get a cabinet position in Hillary’s new administration…..I’m just sayin…..
darlin’
Just tryin’ to be as insightful as you and Uppity!
How much pull do you think Hillary has with the Republican Party? Do you really think they give a shit if she objects to nasty ads?
Sean calling it a “humiliating defeat.”
On Hannity now: they’re going to play two anti-Obama videos, probably one we’ve already seen, and a new one (at least to me). Sean is going to be a big help, theoretically, going into NC & IN.
So McCranky said that he repudiated Hagee’s endorsement (or something to that effect), then said he was grateful for it in the same conversation? He’s going to be easy for Hillary to beat in the fall, what with his seriously failing memory. I mean, we all forget things, but that’s over the top.
Terry McAullife (sp.) on now.
I’ve been wondering what the Repub media is up to.
They trash Obama, but then they trash Hillary. It’s obvious that Obama is going to be toast, but I don’t think the Repub media is going about this the best way. I think they should take Obama out entirely right now. They certainly could do it. They certainly will do it if he is able to criminally
manipulate the primary season his way. But I still think the Repubs should take him out now. He’s such an easy target. Get him out of the way and then they can concentrate on one candidate. But I am guessing that they want a war of attrition to go on in our party. Probably to keep fundraising tied up between two Dem candidates. But if I were them I wouldn’t mess with things that way. I would clear the field of Obama just to have everything a little more tidy. But if they want to keep draggin this thing out, so be it. However, they should know that by draggin it out they are making Hillary that much stronger and her base that much more committed. We train for McCain. And when we get him, we will make toast out of him. Just like his Repub co-hort Obama.
I love the scripted media. They are so laughable. If you watch them for a day- just for the hell of it, you can see as they shift and sort their story line. And each consecutive news show repeats the same “agreed upon” line– and the “newscasters” always act like they just came up with the idea, right there on the spot from their incredible font of spontenaity. The minute they get caught out, they are just totally perplexed. “Hey, you’re not supposed to have that response, you’re supposed to say this.” I wish the tabloid media would stop surpressing stories though. You would think Fox would be flipping cartwheels at the Larry Sinclair business. When we get to Puerto Rico, I don’t think they will be able to sit on the story anymore. Then there should be magnificent fireworks, as Obama– if there’s anything left of Obama–goes down in flames.
Sorry, I don’t know how that double-post happened. Thought the first two were on the last thread.
Off topic, but just wondering… Is there anyway we could get Larry or Susan or somebody to moderate this site so that we wouldn’t have to have Obamabrats sniveling on here?
Sandy,
China or Saudi Arabia sound like perfect places for you to reside.
You seem to be out of your jurisdiction here Ms. Hussein so calling others out is not really your best argument. We only see you when things look really bad for Obama and then you are throwing the kitchen sink around here with the best of them. Sandy is here on a regular basis. Most of us are here because the places you frequent — Huffpo and DailyKos won’t even put up any pro-Hillary comments … much less question Obama. After months of being called despicable names, people find their way here. If you are looking to “convert” people, you might want to go to places where there isn’t a prominent picture of Senator Clinton in the uppper right hand corner. If you are just here to piss on people and claim that it is raining, it is going to be a bumpty ride for you so just get used to it. Someone who supports Senator Obama better toughen up. Just one woman’s opinion.
What do you mean Obama got more delegates out of PA than Hillary. Please explain yourself, and if it is true, something is very, very wrong with our system. Hillary won by 10%. Why didn’t she get the most delegates?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=sN1qZMBE9Gc
Didn’t Barrack from from divorced parent’s? Um, sorry Michelle, open mouth, insert Obama
this woman is a so arrogant ,,,makes me puke