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Pulpit Fiction: Why Wright is Wrong for Obama and Us

Humor and Harm: It is easy (and appropriate) to laugh at the absurd words of Jeremiah Wright, but it is frightening to consider the harm that those words do. It is especially depressing to know that Barack and Michelle Obama, and their two young daughters, listened to this man’s hate-filled, negative, divisive rantings for years and years.

Today, I spoke with a local citizen, I’ll call him Jim, who lost his 25-year job at a local mill and now must drive a cab to feed his family. All he could talk about was his disbelief that Barack Obama could sit in those pews for 20 years and listen to Wright’s ravings. (As Christopher Hitchens asks in his new Slate article, “What can it be that has kept Obama in Wright’s pews, and at Wright’s mercy, for so long and at such a heavy cost to his aspirations?”)

Jim and a female co-worker said they’re truly afraid to have Barack Obama in the White House, given his poor judgment. They also expressed great distrust of Michelle Obama, who they’ve seen in interviews and disliked immediately. It is therefore interesting that Hitchens suggests that it was Michelle’s influence that kept Barack in those pews for so long. The subtitle of Hitchens’ article is “IS MICHELLE OBAMA RESPONSIBLE FOR THE JEREMIAH WRIGHT FIASCO?”

So: If Jim, a near-destitute cab driver in the Pacific Northwest, and Christopher Hitchens, an East Coast-based affluent and classically educated writer of note, can come to the same conclusion about Obama’s poor judgment as well as his wife’s negative influence, it’s a sure bet that millions of other Americans are also thinking the same thing. It’s also near certain that NOTHING Obama says from now on will affect their apprehensions about the man or his wife.

It seems that everyone gets the problem that makes Obama unelectable

Well except those insulated pundits who cling to their fantasy of an Obama presidency, or those too young to know better. As Charles Krauthammer said today on Brit Hume’s panel, anyone who’s been around the block — i.e., anyone but the very young — knows enough not to buy Obama’s weak and self-serving excuses.

Then, there’s another important topic that has not received sufficient attention, and that is the devastatingly negative effect that Wright’s rantings have had on his parishioners. Laugh at the poster on the left, then consider the harm that Jeremiah Wright has wrought on the psyches of those who’ve heard his divisive rants for years:

Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.usFrom “Jeremiah Wright’s Wider Toll” in the Washington Post by Gary MacDougal, chairman of the Illinois governor’s Task Force on Human Services Reform and is the author of “Make a Difference: A Spectacular Breakthrough in the Fight Against Poverty”:

“It is easy to be outraged by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s abhorrent remarks, whether accusing our country of willfully spreading AIDS or being deserving of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. And, yes, Sen. Barack Obama should have spoken out forcefully much sooner … But Wright has done more, and worse, than tarnish Obama’s presidential campaign.

“Consider the corrosive effect Wright and others like him have on their communities as they rob thousands of listeners of the American dream: hope that through their hard work they can have better lives.

Imagine getting up each morning to go to work in a society that doesn’t want you, doesn’t respect you and seeks to hold you back. Your spiritual leader has told you this, after all.

Mr. MacDougal continues:

With powerful rhetoric, Wright has asserted, for instance, that white America sees black women as useful only for their bodies. If this is the message you got from your mentor, would you expect that you could succeed? Would you try very hard, if at all?

Through my work with the Illinois governor’s task force on human services reform and its efforts to reduce welfare dependency, I have encountered misguided community “leaders” like Wright who tell their followers, for example, that the job market is stacked against them and that the jobs that are available aren’t good enough — that they are entitled to more. The underlying message: You can’t win because of who you are, regardless of what you do.

I have attended positively focused black church services, and I know that the Rev. Wright does not speak for a monolithic black church.

This is worth reading in full: “Jeremiah Wright’s Wider Toll.”

It is the most poignant repudiation of Jeremiah Wright that I have read — and I’ve read a few.

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Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-05 22:38:46

I think Queen Hillyzabeth is wrong for us.

Let me introduce you to her spiritual leader:http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich

Like the saying goes: same shit, different smell.

Comment by Strawberrybitch | 2008-05-05 22:42:50

Your link doesn’t work, Sparky.

Comment by MessyMarcy | 2008-05-05 22:49:56

Once more incompetence works its way down from the top in the Obama camp.

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-05 23:53:19

Who cares about the Obama camp?

 
 

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-05 23:22:55

Well Einstein, if you plug it in Google it will lead you to enlightment

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-06 05:39:19

that’s pretty funny. you come here to sprinkle your nasty dust and it doesn’t work.

pretty much an obamanation trait. but no, his campaign doesn’t go negative, right?

 
 

Comment by Kourian | 2008-05-06 05:47:17

I suspect his brain doesn’t work either.

 
 

Comment by scott | 2008-05-05 22:52:36

And its same shit different flies.

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-05 23:37:59

At least someone agrees with me (That is Obama and Clinton really, REALLY stink)

Several times I said that I would not vote for any of those turds. Let me tell you why: I have always voted Dem. Until now at least. But since the Democratic Party has proven to be a (at least it’s leaders [AKA members of Congress]) party of cowards. I am so disgusted with them for what they did, as well for what they did not do, that I am changing my registration as independent.

I don’t thinmk it is OK to let them get away with it, and they should lose the general election. at least that way they will know that they have been held accountable, and that their leadership is not accepted.

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-06 09:44:07

hey cruz, the school bus is waiting again. i know you are scared of the dog, but make a run for it.

 
 

Comment by Kourian | 2008-05-06 05:49:37

No it is not. You’re exposing yourself as a first time voter. In 2016.

 
 

Comment by requiemforadancer | 2008-05-05 22:55:21

And thank you for the opening, stitch:

The one place the republicans can’t beat Clinton is in a genuine discussion of the issues, they can smoke, and spray and paint and plaster, but they cannot govern.

They have a complete lack of insight into the causes of the problems facing this country, a complete inabilty to acknowledge the truth, or understand the cause and effect, they cannot GOVERN, LEAD or SOLVE. McCain is no more than another PR President, though only marginally better than Bush, Cheney, and Obama.

Again, who is he surrounded by? Small children in suits, the equivalent of the orange, but instead of a latte, we have conservatives driving lexuses.

But the conservative base can only fight with Rove’s AMWAY methods, they cannot solve problems, Clinton can.

 

Comment by pm317 | 2008-05-05 23:11:38

People like you are what is terribly wrong with this country right now.

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-05 23:25:33

Yeah Blame it on the foreigners. Let me know when you return from Lala-Land

Comment by pm317 | 2008-05-05 23:37:13

Great to know you don’t have the privilege of a vote. Thank God.

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-05 23:40:45

Wrong again. Got dual citizenship, and one of the privilges that I have is to when I want to be an American and when a foreign. Pal, not youre lucky day

Comment by pm317 | 2008-05-05 23:50:11

Then I go back to my original comment — you and people like you are what is wrong with this election.

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 00:00:19

You didn’t mean “typical” people like me, Wright?

Well, I might have to console myself in thinking that it is people like you that drove this country down the hill.

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-06 05:41:38

so now you’re intent to push it over the cliff? is that your pathetic point? did you have a point? is there a point?

Comment by Talktruth | 2008-05-06 08:19:22

The point is to keep us occupied so we won’t use our time to GOTV. What these people say is always so pointless and uninformed, it’s definitely not to change our minds to vote for BO.

 
 
 
 

Comment by cruz del sur's Parole Officer | 2008-05-06 05:52:33

Not yours either, Holmes. Posting on this board violates the terms of your parole. You’re busted, dude. It’s back to cleaning shower stalls and picking up slimy soap bars for you. And you still can’t spell.

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-06 05:55:24

hahahahaha

Whew!

Thanks for starting my day with a huge laugh!

 

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 08:43:12

I think you are such a little coward who cant use your own name to say what little petty crap comes out of your mouth.

Want to say something to me? Use your own screen name.

 
 
 
 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-06 09:45:32

naw, i blame clueless, nonthinking, american idol loving, poorly educated americans like you.

 
 
 

Comment by Sam Copeland | 2008-05-05 23:19:20

1. The story you linked to doesn’t pass the smell test. Its main point is that pro-choice, children-rights advocate, feminist, pro-working women Hillary Rodham Clinton joined a church that opposes all of those things and was not only accepted by that church but reached its highest ranks. More disinformation from the left.

2. Why is it that every time someone raises a question about Obama, his supporters cannot answer the question but must attack Senator Clinton?

In the general election, if Obama gets the nomination, will he still be blaming Hillary when the GOP raise questions about his character?

This should make for a great debate between McCain and Obama. McCain raises the issue of Obama writing letters of support for a slumlord named Rezko and Obama accuses Hillary of being able to write letters.

Comment by CeeHussein | 2008-05-05 23:30:46

This should make for a great debate between McCain and Obama. McCain raises the issue of Obama writing letters of support for a slumlord named Rezko and Obama accuses Hillary of being able to write letters.

No. Obama can talk about McCain and the Keating Five. Everyone remembers how much that cost all of us.

Obama can also bring up all of this

March 29, 2008
McCain’s ‘economic guru’ and the market meltdown
Posted March 29th, 2008 at 12:00 pm

Back in January, John McCain admitted to the Wall Street Journal editorial board he “doesn’t really understand economics.” He told the editors, though, that he was nevertheless reliable because his former Senate colleague, Texas’ Phil Gramm, was his chief economic advisor — McCain had even brought Gramm along for the meeting — and the man he turns to as an economic expert.

It’s tempting to think that who presidential candidate pick as advisors is irrelevant — it’s he or she who’s in power who’ll make the decisions, not his or her top aides. But I think this approach is mistaken, especially when the candidate concedes ignorance in an important policy area. The advisor’s beliefs become the candidate’s beliefs. Confronted with challenges once in office, the advisor’s recommendations are likely to become the president’s official policy.

With that in mind, let’s take a good look at former Sen. Phil Gramm, someone McCain has hinted might be his Treasury Secretary if elected.

Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-06 08:39:48

Well that ought to more than outweigh Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Hamas, Khalidi, Farrakhan, the Black Panthers, Brezinski and Alsammarae. Perhaps they can play it in an endless loop while the swiftboats wrap Barry up for the political graveyard.

 
 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-05-06 00:21:30

This is typical of the obamabots — they can’t think for themselves and the have absolutely no idea what snObama really stands for — and they don’t know who he really is.

ALL they can do is make up lies about Hillary.

However, the nastier these maggots get we know that snObama will lose again. And then he’ll be complaining again — he didn’t get his “due” — the lazy ass brat who has done NOTHING for anybody but himself.

Rev. Wright is harmful. He is a bad influence on his congregation. I’ve seen this same sort of hatred during the Black Panthers era in the S.F. Bay Area. Kids learned to hate and they learned to be disrespectful of MLK’s message — that was a tough and tense time. And then MLK was assassinated — and some of the Blacks didn’t care — in fact they said some pretty rough things — about how MLK was old and out of touch. I don’t know if these remarks were recorded — but I hear Black teenagers repeat what some of the leaders of the Black Panthers were saying. It was a terrible time — too much hate.

We don’t need to go backward — we need to go forwards. Rev. Wright is looking back and he is hateful and harmful to the young people especially who don’t have a memory of what it was like BEFORE.

Thank you Susan for another helpful reminder that people are questioning Rev. Wright’s message. And if we vote our pocket-book we won’t be voting for Obama. Not with his stable of economic advisers.

 

Comment by Kourian | 2008-05-06 05:55:32

Why is it that every time someone raises a question about Obama, his supporters cannot answer the question but must attack Senator Clinton?

Uh - can’t you give us multiple choice instead? LOL

This should make for a great debate between McCain and Obama. McCain raises the issue of Obama writing letters of support for a slumlord named Rezko and Obama accuses Hillary of being able to write letters.

Love it! And he’d be envious of her for that! He never wrote a single article for the HLR! He coasted through his education easier than W!

Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-06 06:36:42

Barack Obama has no paper trail at all. No paper trail as HLR leader. No publishing or any kind. Even his records as state senator disappeared. None. Zero. Zilch.

Comment by Kourian | 2008-05-06 06:55:53

Yes. And the sexually insecure MSM won’t touch it. His lack of paper trail that is. ;)

Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-06 07:02:16

Hell half of them probably have a relative bundling for him.

 
 
 
 
 

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-05 23:59:51

I forgot to mention that my shit doesn’t stink. But you probably figured that out, didn’t you? I’d like to apologize for being such an A-hole on your site, causing you all to have to scroll through my insane posts.

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 00:02:51

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-05 23:59:51

I forgot to mention that my shit doesn’t stink. But you probably figured that out, didn’t you? I’d like to apologize for being such an A-hole on your site, causing you all to have to scroll through my insane posts.

I DID NOT WRITE THIS

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 00:04:49

I’M OUT OF MY MIND! I DON’T REMEMBER WRITING THIS!

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 00:13:48

I already mailed Larry. And, I also have the screen shots.

 
 

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 00:29:47

Change my diaper please!

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 00:37:31

check out http://WWW.ic3.gov Ypou just committed a federal crime when you impersonated me :0)

Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-06 06:39:51

Register your screen name and get a link.

Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-06 06:45:01

What I mean is, you should register your screen name using blogger or something. So that it glows blue and others know when it’s you and when it’s not! It happened to me several times and now that I am a blue link, it’s easy to recognize that it’s not me when I am impersonated. Go to blogger.com register as a blogger. You do not have to write a blog, but your link will show up when you put the url in the url line of your identification.

Comment by pm317 | 2008-05-06 09:05:10

Oh Uppity, don’t help educate the trolls.

 

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 09:11:26

Thank you for the suggestion, but I already have a blogger id.

Thank you so much!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Comment by OxyCon | 2008-05-06 00:20:22

Another Obama Bozo rears his pointy head.
Hey “cruz del sur”, you Bozo, choke on this:

ABC News: The Blotter
Like Clinton, Obama Attended “Shadowy” Group’s Prayer Meetings
April 04, 2008 11:21 AM

Justin Rood Reports:

Stories on the “stealth” ministry of Douglas Coe have been cropping up recently on blogs and online publications, linking him unfavorably to Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y.

Comparing Coe to Obama’s inflammatory pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Barbara Ehrenreich wrote at HuffingtonPost.com, “When it comes to unsavory religious affiliations, she’s a lot more vulnerable than Obama.”

But the story may not be so simple. Indeed, as Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign confirmed yesterday, he has also attended Coe’s prayer meetings.

Coe’s group, “the Fellowship,” reportedly shuns publicity while focusing on ministering to those in power in the United States and around the world. In Washington, D.C., Coe sponsors a weekly Senate prayer breakfast and an annual National Prayer Breakfast regularly attended by U.S. presidents.

Coe’s group has been called “shadowy,” and Coe has made some unusual comments which have raised more than a few eyebrows. In recorded presentations, he has seemed to praise Hitler and other totalitarian leaders for brutally enforcing their followers’ allegiance to doctrine over allegiance to family, and suggesting that was a model for teaching children about Jesus.

“[T]here is something deeply strange about the group,” wrote the Atlantic magazine’s Joshua Green, who has reported extensively on Coe’s Fellowship and Hillary Clinton.

Ehrenreich and others have noted that Hillary has been a regular attendee at his weekly prayer meetings, and spoke warmly of Coe in her autobiography, “Living History.”

But if Clinton has a Coe problem, then it seems Obama would also: a quick call to the Obama campaign elicited a confirmation that the junior senator from Illinois had also attended “a couple” of Coe’s meetings. And, like Clinton reportedly has, Obama spoke at one of the meetings about his faith, spokesman Bill Burton confirmed.

Comment by hillarysmygirl | 2008-05-06 00:25:49

LOL, that’s great, OxyCon! Thanks for putting the Obama-bozo in its place.

 

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 00:32:17

I pooped myself.

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 09:49:59

http://www.ic3.gov/faq/ :

Q: Do you have a definition of Internet crime that I can refer to?
Internet crime is defined as any illegal activity involving one or more components of the Internet, such as websites, chat rooms, and/or email. Internet crime involves the use of the Internet to communicate false or fraudulent representations to consumers.

You should thank Larry!!

 
 

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Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-05-06 08:56:48

Does someone require:
1) monitoring or
2) therapy?

GROUP? What say you?

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-06 09:08:08

Susan I suggest the Obamatot get generous dodes of thorazine.

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 10:09:43

And you should know. When did they let you out of the cuckoo’s nest???

 
 

Comment by Melissa | 2008-05-06 09:43:07

Needs the men in the clean white coats!

 

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 10:05:45

I thought that this place liked (and let me quote Larry) people that tought for themselves.

Also very surprissed that you, an Administrator of this place, approves the impersonating that just occured.

Monitoring: could care less.

Group therapy: I would not suggest it. You will only waste your time. But if you all want some group therapy that is up to you.

 
 
 
 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-06 07:37:34

THERE IS NO COMPARISON between Coe and Wright…..
Wright is a Radical Black Separatist who Preaches a FASCIST POLITICAL THEOLOGY…..Obama held Uncle Jerry as a POLITICAL ADVISER FOR 20 YEARS…..THERE IS NO SEPARATION BETWEEN POLITICS AND RELIGION IN BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY…..They are INSEPARABLE…..

 

Comment by DrMK | 2008-05-06 09:34:21

i can’t believe they keep on referring to him as a junior senator, he is a FRESHMAN for crying out loud!

 
 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-05-06 00:37:43

Well we know which candidate has the balls and which one’s wife has them. Obama moans that the media is being unfair to him and along comes daddy Dean to once again rescue him by saying that issues like Obama’s pastor do not belong in the campaign and that he negative attacks must stop.

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-06 05:46:44

poor baby. I hope that those mean, mean republicans were listening. now he can go back to sucking his thumb.

 
 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-06 07:29:11

CRUZ…The Nixon Campaign Dress was appraised on Antique Road Show for $ 600.00 at Net Auction….Hold onto your UNITY BONG and OBAMACULT GEAR…..They might be worth something in 30 years…..
OBAMA IS DESTINED FOR POLITICAL OBSCURITY…..REZKO…AYERS…WRIGHT

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 10:13:05

If you ever learned how to read, you would already know that I will not vote for him (or her for that matter). Then again, you can not expect cocnuts out of a chicken.

 
 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-06 09:18:38

hey cruz, stfu and get your obamanotwanted here arse on over to obama central.

Comment by cruz del sur | 2008-05-06 12:41:18

Yeah. I now take orders from you…

 
 
 

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-05-05 22:45:32

If Obama didn’t hear 20 years worth of sermons, it makes you wonder what else he won’t hear if elected. We’ve already had 7 1/2 years of a President who doesn’r hear Intel briefings and scientific evidence; we don’t need 4 more.

Comment by rwc | 2008-05-05 23:45:39

And don’t forget that this is the same ass-clown who thinks spending 4 years in a grade school in Indonesia from the ages 6-10 makes him a expert in foreign policy.

By that standard most military brats would surpass Yobama in terms of expertise.

Even Bush wasn’t that stupid and make no mistake he’s dumb as a rock, but Obama takes ignorance and arrogance to a whole other level.

As for Michelle, she’s just a socially promoted miserable bigot who can’t hide her hatred of whites and America.

 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-05-06 00:39:41

I can tell you what Obama won’t hear — he won’t hear the the American people as this economy worsens. Obama only cares about Obama and our job as citizens of this country will be to worship this fool.

 
 

Comment by annagain | 2008-05-05 22:51:05

There is no earthly reason why Senator Obama would have stayed in this church for this long.

Obviously, he has the right to worship where he wishes, HOWEVER, if one is running for President of the United States — one is running to be everyone’s President — not just his/her select cadre of fans. Since Sen. Obama has a painfully thin resume and nothing to run on but his wonderful “judgment” - what kind of judgment is it that would allow him to stay in, and subject his children to, this kind of divisivenes and hate? If he cannot more decisively walk away — how can we trust he will be correct in his judgment or decisiveness on anything else.

In fact, he has shown repeatedly that he would rather throw whole groups of voters under the bus than walk away from his pastor and spiritual advisor. Now he only walks away out of political necessity — and then has the audacity to pretend Rev. Wright has changed — this gentleman has been preaching the same stuff for 20 years. And then Sen. Obama has the unmitigated gall to disparage Hillary’s character and record?

I have had enough lies, thanks you very much. That’s some audacity, all right.

 

Comment by Patrick Henry | 2008-05-05 23:00:11

Well…With a memory like Obamas…it kind of reminds Me of OZZY…Maybe that should have been “The Audacity of DOPE…”

Uh…Uh…Uh..Uh…

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-06 07:41:50

Ehemmm…..Mendacem Memorem Esse Oportet….
Translation : ( Liars Should Have Good Memories )…..True….No ?

 
 

Comment by MessyMarcy | 2008-05-05 23:07:08

I don’t really care why Obama sat there for 20 years — be it that Michelle made him or that he just did it to get street cred — just the fact that he did it and then tried to deny hearing any of the more intemperate remarks is enough to make me question his suitability to be the Dem nominee.

And Wright’s poisonous rantings did indeed have great potential to cause harm to anyone listening and believing. However (and I know this makes me a bad, bad person), I am truly enjoying watching the Rev. not go quietly under the bus.

 

Comment by pm317 | 2008-05-05 23:08:41

Fantastic piece, Susan. If Obama does not get what is wrong with having Wright in his and his children’s lives, he is not fit to be a senator let alone the president of a country. That MacDougal testimony hits the nail on the head. If Obama cannot even understand the ill effects of Wright on his community, how can he be expected to lead a whole nation’s welfare? Something is terribly wrong with this whole picture.

Comment by AF catfish | 2008-05-06 04:13:53

Wright said black children do not learn the same way as white children do. Imagine his young girls hearing that message every Sunday!?

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-06 07:48:30

Eugenics. n. A (science) concerned with improving the genetic traits of a breed or species. esp. THE HUMAN SPECIES….Random House Dictionary.
The last FASCIST REGIME to incorporate this RACIST PSUEDO SCIENCE were the NAZIS….Obama allowed his children to be racially marginalized by Wright in the church and the sunday school….

 
 
 

Comment by MRW | 2008-05-05 23:16:53

Larry,

Your argument is completely specious.

Catholics have been sitting in church while priests diddle kids for decades. No one walked out. IN fact, the head poobah was lionized three weeks ago.

The priests’ actions were far more devastating than Wright’s words would ever be.

You just dont want to see a black guy as prez.

Comment by Janis | 2008-05-05 23:21:49

They didn’t sit there and listen to the priests glorify kid raping, though. And when they found out about it, they were out for blood. Your analogy is worthless.

And keep the r-bomb mudslinging out of it, dipshit. There’s a dozen reasons to want Obama out of the oval office that have nothing to do with his skin color — and not a single good one to want him in there except for his skin color.

I have NO INTENTION of tolerating a president who I’m not allowed to criticize.

Comment by Garlic-Nosed Guitarist | 2008-05-05 23:27:24

In a GE race of Obama vs. McCain:

The Republicans will just laugh when Obama and his supporters cry (wolf) racism.

Hillary is a scrapper, she’s gonna make it though.

 
 

Comment by JoeySky | 2008-05-05 23:29:45

it has nothing to do with skin, but everything to do with his conscious.

Comment by Garlic-Nosed Guitarist | 2008-05-06 08:37:48

Or lack there of, a conscience.

 
 

Comment by Dan | 2008-05-05 23:37:01

genius.

Attack the catholic church. That’ll get you Pennsylvannia and Ohio and Missouri.

Halfwits.

Comment by pm317 | 2008-05-05 23:40:39

Exactly! They are not very good at political strategy either. How can they win?

 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-05-05 23:58:01

It’s the Catholic analogy that’s specious. So many victims of abuse kept silent for years out of shame, so who knew until the victims themselves spoke up. And then there was absolute outrage. I’m sure some Catholics did leave the Church. But why if your parish priest is innocent of any such criminal behavior, why would you leave?

Again, the hierarcy, the organization failed it’s congregants. But it’s also true that priests weren’t giving sermons glorifying or justifying rape. And I certainly wouldn’t vote for a candidate who stayed and defended a priest who molested a child. Wasn’t Giuliani tight with a priest who had been charged? I seemed to remember some politician was. And I’m not talking about an endorsement. I’m talking about a relationship.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-06 09:01:00

Mimi….I am a Catholic from Dallas….The first of the scandals that became public happened here….The criminal was named Rudy Koss.
The Bishops of Texas worked diligently ( with the exception of the Bishop of Dallas….It took us years to get rid of him…) and instituted a great swath of REFORM that was later adopted by The AMERICAN BISHOPS. In Dallas the Arch Bishop from NJ. ( I think ) actually took over the Dioceses and committed to the exercise of the REFORMS for 10 years.
He is on of my heroes. My daughter went to school in the poorest catholic parish starting in 1995 when this Arch Bishop came to Dallas.
He came back every year to our church to preside over CONFIRMATION of each of th classes. In 2004 when my daughters’ class came of age he came for the last time….The church was packed with the families of every preceding class to welcom this priest….His homily was so moving that there was not a dry eye in the house….He spoke directly of the changes that came in response to the FAILURES OF THE MOTHER CHURCH to PROTECT HER CHILDREN….
The RCC is the Largest Christian denomination in the world and as such we have our own problems. Many Catholics have left the Church and this among other reasons is why….But equally important many have stayed.
We have stayed because our faith is greater than our priests…..
We have Stayed because there are Priests like the one who saved our diocese……We have stayed because we can change for the better….
We have a Pope who is recognizing and supporting these reforms….

 
 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-05-06 00:48:33

The problem with Obama’s pastor is that Obama agrees with his beliefs. So now we know that 2 of Obama’s pals hate this country. Check out Dreams of My Father by the big BO and see what he says about Wright and his various sermons. Obama knows exactly what Wright said and has only now distanced himself because of political expediancy. I have nothing against electing an AA president. I do have a problem electing a guy who hangs with someone who is proud of attacking the Pentagon and a spiritual mentor who says God Damn America. How many more America haters will surface in the next couple of weeks.

Today we find out from the Wall Street Journal that Obama told Teamster’s President that if he endorsed Obama he would stop any investigations of their union. What a guy!!!

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-06 09:50:33

yup, even rev wright said it. and hitchens is right on about michelle. that woman is a hater.

 
 

Comment by Patti | 2008-05-06 06:27:45

Catholics have been sitting in church while priests diddle kids for decades. No one walked out. IN fact, the head poobah was lionized three weeks ago.

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Priest dont ask parishoners to do little kids from the altar. And they certainly dont molest KIDS in front of parishoners.

And many people have left the CATHOLIC church because of it..

GET a BRAIN…

 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-06 07:56:02

MWR…..THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN WRIGHT AND THE PRIEST SCANDALS OF THE RCC……CATHOLICS DID NOT CHEER WHILE APPROVING FASCIST DOCTRINE…..CATHOLICS HAVE WORKED TO CHANGE THE VERY STRUCTURE OF THE RCC…..THE POPE HAS ADMITTED THE RCC ERROR AND REACHED OUT TO THE VICTIMS…..THE RCC IS NOT A POLITICAL RELIGION…
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS BEEN DENOUNCING THE MARXIST HERESY OF LIBERATION THEOLOGY FOR OVER 20 YEARS…YOU ARE A FOOL.

WRIGHT IS OBAMA’S AYATOLLAH…..HE IS A DEMOGOGUE AND LIKE HITLER A STUPID ONE AT THAT……ANYONE THAT SUBSCRIBES TO BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY IS A CHRISTIAN HERETIC AND A FASCIST…..

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-06 08:15:27

LIBERATION THEOLOGY is a CHRISTIAN HERESY…..
It changes the Identity and Earthly Role of JESUS. It reduces Jesus to a POLITICAL MILITANT….Liberation Theology Recognizes NO DENOMINATIONAL OR DOCTRINAL AUTHORITY allowing Each Individual Congregation to interpret Doctrine to reflect the politics of the location.
CONTRA ANYONE ?…..It promotes a MARXIST SOCIO-ECONOMIC SOLUTION and REDEFINED THE ROLE OF THE CHRISTIAN TO A MILITANT SOLDIER….Like All MARXIST PHILOSOPHY it PROMOTES CLASS WARFARE.
BLACK LIBERATION THEOLOGY adds the POLITICS of RACIAL SUPREMACY.
This is why in the Values System of Wrights Church there is the denegration of the MIDDLE CLASS and Why WRIGHT CONDEMNS AMERIKKKA…..This is why there is an ALLIANCE between WRIGHT and FARRAKHAN…..This is why WRIGHT ATTACKS WHITE AMERICA…..This is why WRIGHT IS ANTI-SEMETIC…..
JEREMIAH WRIGHT IS OBAMA’S AYATOLLAH…..
LIKE THE SHIA FORM OF ISLAM THERE IS NO SEPARATION BETWEEN POLITICS AND RELIGION…..RELIGION DICTATES MARXIST POLITICS…..
THE TWO ARE INSEPARABLE…..AND WRIGHTS DOCTRINE IS RACIST….

 
 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-06 09:21:08

i notice the obama trolls are out in full force today. hey mrw, the racists are in wright’s church and obama’s campaign. posters like you did more harm to obama’s campaign that wright.

 
 

Comment by blobert | 2008-05-05 23:24:48

It’s interesting how people really do feel protective of the actual white house, and similar icons.
Back in ‘04, I was working the phones for the Kerry campaign, and an elderly woman in Ohio said she would never vote for Kerry because Elizabeth Edwards was too fat to be a potential first lady.
That floored me. It was pretty Xtreme. But I could see the same woman looking at strong, almost threatening Michelle Obama worried whether she would be able to effectively hold an easter egg hunt on the whitehouse lawn.

Comment by Dan | 2008-05-05 23:38:19

LIz, totally harmless. That voter must have been looking for an excuse.

 

Comment by mimi | 2008-05-06 00:01:07

There are a lot of fools loose on this land. A lot of women voted for JFK because he was ‘handsome.’ But I think it’s safe to say these people make up the minority.

OTH, how does that explain Bush?

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-05-06 00:27:11

It doesn’t. Election fraud explains bush.

 
 
 

Comment by mimi | 2008-05-05 23:40:38

Susan,

You are absolutely right about the article link you posted. This is no way to help people lift themselves up. You can’t transform your life for the better if you focus on what’s wrong.

Organized religion is a business. That’s why I gave up on it. After the Black Nationalism of the 60s swept through the AA community, a lot of churches lost their memberships. then during the Reagan Years and also the whole ‘born again’ movement and the emergence of high profile white Christian ministers espousing political points of view from the pulpit with regard to abortion and ‘family values,’ younger black ministers started following suit, preaching black nationalist theology. They are doing what’s necessary to fill the pews, thereby filling their coffers and retire to mansions behind a gated white community. They are nothing but a bunch of self-righteous hypocrites exploiting the spiritually needy.

And it’s true, that the abandonment of poor urban areas by upwardly mobile blacks to the suburbs depriv