Comments on: Good Morning, West Virginia! http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/ Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:22:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: rationalpsychic http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-246682 rationalpsychic Thu, 15 May 2008 06:07:07 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-246682 I do understand your point. However, from what I heard Mrs. Clinton saying at: http://bourbonroom.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/01/07/clintons-candid-assessment/ was the opposite of what you are saying when you write: "It doesn’t have to be either/or." Mrs. Clinton's intention, from the rhetoric I hear, is to MAKE an either/or distinction. For Mrs. Clinton, Obama's hope has always been a false hope. For her, Mr. Obama doesn't offer anything real or substantive. She said that it took Johnson to make a dream into a reality. This is the kind of half-truth that pays the bills for lawyers as an occupational class. She is right that Johnson made a major effort and a gamble of political capital to make the legislation move through its final stages. However, her statement doesn't recognize the years of efforts on the part of Martin Luther King, Jr., and thousands more who were motivated by his example of non-violent struggle. In part, this is the nature of our democracy playing itself out. However, how could such beautiful and terrifying events have unfolded without the impetus of MLK, Jr. and others who laid their LIVES on the line--not just their political futures? I admire the stand that LBJ took. I do. However, I think that the common citizens, and those who were without the power of office, were the ones who made the greater sacrifice--in terms of personal cost and in terms of years of difficult struggle. I do understand your point. However, from what I heard Mrs. Clinton saying at: http://bourbonroom.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/01/07/clintons-candid-assessment/ was the opposite of what you are saying when you write: “It doesn’t have to be either/or.” Mrs. Clinton’s intention, from the rhetoric I hear, is to MAKE an either/or distinction.

For Mrs. Clinton, Obama’s hope has always been a false hope. For her, Mr. Obama doesn’t offer anything real or substantive. She said that it took Johnson to make a dream into a reality. This is the kind of half-truth that pays the bills for lawyers as an occupational class.

She is right that Johnson made a major effort and a gamble of political capital to make the legislation move through its final stages. However, her statement doesn’t recognize the years of efforts on the part of Martin Luther King, Jr., and thousands more who were motivated by his example of non-violent struggle. In part, this is the nature of our democracy playing itself out. However, how could such beautiful and terrifying events have unfolded without the impetus of MLK, Jr. and others who laid their LIVES on the line–not just their political futures?

I admire the stand that LBJ took. I do. However, I think that the common citizens, and those who were without the power of office, were the ones who made the greater sacrifice–in terms of personal cost and in terms of years of difficult struggle.

]]> By: jdona http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-246138 jdona Thu, 15 May 2008 02:15:08 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-246138 Oh yes it was. It was an insult to President Johnson, just like your attempt to turn it into a slap in the face of Martin Luther King above. There is no reason to say that saluting President Johnson for all his hard work is somehow a slap in the face to Martin Luther King. It doesn't have to be either/or. But you just did the same thing that Obama did. You turned a compliment to President Johnson into an insult to MLK. The same ploy Obama used to race bait in South Carolina. You are no different than he is. Oh yes it was. It was an insult to President Johnson, just like your attempt to turn it into a slap in the face of Martin Luther King above. There is no reason to say that saluting President Johnson for all his hard work is somehow a slap in the face to Martin Luther King. It doesn’t have to be either/or. But you just did the same thing that Obama did. You turned a compliment to President Johnson into an insult to MLK. The same ploy Obama used to race bait in South Carolina. You are no different than he is.

]]> By: rationalpsychic http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-242574 rationalpsychic Tue, 13 May 2008 17:04:22 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-242574 Will you protect the reputation and historical importance of Martin Luther King, Jr., also? This was the point of Obama's comment. Please don't exaggerate. This single comment was not a slap in the face to anyone. Will you protect the reputation and historical importance of Martin Luther King, Jr., also? This was the point of Obama’s comment.

Please don’t exaggerate. This single comment was not a slap in the face to anyone.

]]> By: jdona http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-242487 jdona Tue, 13 May 2008 15:59:32 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-242487 Right back at you - I for one took extreme offense to being categorized along with Obama's grandmother to being a typical white person. I also found it reprehensible that when Hillary Clinton was commenting on the role of Lyndon Johnson in getting the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed, Obama said her comments were "ill advised". Since when was acknowledging the courage and foresight of one of our Democratic Presidents in the struggle for civil rights "ill advised". and now Obama wants to the President? While at the same time denigrating the Democratic President that brought us the War on Poverty, the Great Society and the Civil Rights Act? Obama isn't fit to call himself President, and it is a slap in the face to all of those who served before him. Right back at you - I for one took extreme offense to being categorized along with Obama’s grandmother to being a typical white person. I also found it reprehensible that when Hillary Clinton was commenting on the role of Lyndon Johnson in getting the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed, Obama said her comments were “ill advised”. Since when was acknowledging the courage and foresight of one of our Democratic Presidents in the struggle for civil rights “ill advised”. and now Obama wants to the President? While at the same time denigrating the Democratic President that brought us the War on Poverty, the Great Society and the Civil Rights Act? Obama isn’t fit to call himself President, and it is a slap in the face to all of those who served before him.

]]> By: rationalpsychic http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-241918 rationalpsychic Tue, 13 May 2008 04:21:40 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-241918 If the Republicans had run the race-baiting campaign which Mrs. Clinton has run, we'd all pull together and give them a verbal what-for. However, one of our own (Democrat) has said that she is popular with "hard-working" "white" Americans. Yet, people continue to give her a pass on this kind of rhetoric. I believe we can't go forward unless we can go forward honestly. Mrs. Clinton has rung up some political debts she will find difficult to pay off. If the Republicans had run the race-baiting campaign which Mrs. Clinton has run, we’d all pull together and give them a verbal what-for.

However, one of our own (Democrat) has said that she is popular with “hard-working” “white” Americans. Yet, people continue to give her a pass on this kind of rhetoric.

I believe we can’t go forward unless we can go forward honestly. Mrs. Clinton has rung up some political debts she will find difficult to pay off.

]]> By: Jimmy Karrveil http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-234758 Jimmy Karrveil Fri, 09 May 2008 19:53:50 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-234758 I am pleased to see you signed your name to your post. I am pleased to see you signed your name to your post.

]]> By: SD http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-234674 SD Fri, 09 May 2008 19:26:15 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-234674 Hey there "Guy". I am going to enjoy watching John Mccain set up the draft and make you people "earn" the right to open your yaps. You need some Marine Corps boot camp to teach you some manners. Good luck with getting OB elected, alone. Hey there “Guy”. I am going to enjoy watching John Mccain set up the draft and make you people “earn” the right to open your yaps. You need some Marine Corps boot camp to teach you some manners. Good luck with getting OB elected, alone.

]]> By: Desperate to Win « TexasDarlin Blog http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-233980 Desperate to Win « TexasDarlin Blog Fri, 09 May 2008 14:09:59 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-233980 [...] Obama’s pledged delegate lead will have shrunk by May 20th.  I just saw that Clinton has a 40 point lead in West Virginia just 5 days out to that election! Despite the mad cries this week to end things, [...] […] Obama’s pledged delegate lead will have shrunk by May 20th.  I just saw that Clinton has a 40 point lead in West Virginia just 5 days out to that election! Despite the mad cries this week to end things, […]

]]> By: IdiotPatrol http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-233699 IdiotPatrol Fri, 09 May 2008 10:13:32 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-233699 I'd rather be a Hillary supporter than someone who supports a candidate with terrorist ties. Obama + Presidency = Hamas's happiest day Intelligence test, Obama= I can't disown UNCLE Wright + 6 weeks latter/I disown him Do the math. IdiotPatrol I’d rather be a Hillary supporter than someone who supports a candidate with terrorist ties. Obama + Presidency = Hamas’s happiest day

Intelligence test, Obama= I can’t disown UNCLE Wright + 6 weeks latter/I disown him

Do the math.

IdiotPatrol

]]> By: ChrisXP http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-233676 ChrisXP Fri, 09 May 2008 09:57:56 +0000 http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/08/good-morning-west-virginia/#comment-233676 <blockquote>And the “Blue Dog” House democrats who vote with republicans, are fighting to remove benefits for veterans that are in the Iraq funding bill “because there hasn’t been a reduction in spending to cover the cost”!</blockquote> How do you think light bills are paid? The government doesn't make it's own money, it taxes to get it. It's also not the responsibility of taxpayers to give the government a blank check. You, I or anyone else tried writing blank checks that wasn't secured with cash in the bank, we'll be in jail for check fraud. The government doesn't operate any differently -- and we're not going to be taxed like Europe to compensate.

And the “Blue Dog” House democrats who vote with republicans, are fighting to remove benefits for veterans that are in the Iraq funding bill “because there hasn’t been a reduction in spending to cover the cost”!

How do you think light bills are paid?

The government doesn’t make it’s own money, it taxes to get it.

It’s also not the responsibility of taxpayers to give the government a blank check.

You, I or anyone else tried writing blank checks that wasn’t secured with cash in the bank, we’ll be in jail for check fraud.

The government doesn’t operate any differently — and we’re not going to be taxed like Europe to compensate.

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