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Obama’s Subversion of the Democratic Party

It is all laid out here, at Digby’s blog, in “The Obama Party.” This is not written by Digby who, I sense, would have a different take on this, but by a contributor named dday.

Qualifier: I could give a rat’s ass about the Democratic party per se, but I am horrified that this party could allow itself to be taken over by what is essentially a CULT of “The One.” And to the exclusion of the MILLIONS of us who have no desire to be part of a cult. Especially having witnessed and been subjected to the brute force of his followers — who represent the coarsening of American society — I want no part of it.

Please read through the entire article … try to ignore dday’s obvious excitement about this, and look at the complete restructuring involved, which includes the banishment of people like Lanny Davis (who has become my hero for his passionate, brainy support for Hillary) and everyone who has anything to do with the Clintons — including you and me.

… He’s building a new Democratic infrastructure, regimenting it under his brand, and enlisting new technologies and more sophisticated voter contacting techniques to turn it from a normal GOTV effort into a lasting movement. The short-term goal is to increase voter turnout by such a degree that Republicans will wither in November, not just from a swamp of cash but a flood of numbers. The long-term goal is to subvert the traditional structures of the Democratic Party since the early 1990s, subvert the nascent structures that the progressive movement has been building since the late 1990s, and build a parallel structure, under his brand, that will become the new power center in American politics. This is tremendous news. [ARE YOU F–KING NUTS?!?]

However, despite his calls that change always occurs from the bottom up, these structures are very much being created and controlled from the top down. …

Here is what some longtime Dems have to say about this:

Mr. O wants to do away with ALL independent progressive groups that can not march in lockstep with his “movement”. This means that groups ranging from Media Matters to Women’s Voices Women’s Votes to EMILY’s List to the Sierra Club to Democratic Party orgs themselves are threatened by Mr. O telling his donors NOT to donate to anything other than “official Barack Obama” outfits.

Mr. O is setting up parallel party infrastructure to not only compete with the current Democratic Party, but ultimately OVERTAKE IT. He’s not just looking for control, but he wants to weed out EVERYONE who still has ties to Bill & Hillary Clinton. So say bye-bye to everyone
currently working in some capacity on Hillary’s campaign… We’re not welcome any more! …

I can’t believe this comes to mind, but this is what this takeover reminds me of: In 1969, the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) had a big convention in Chicago (ahem) in which those who advocated the violent overthrow of the U.S. government took over — and threw out — those who persisted in believing in the Martin Luther King legacy of non-violent protest. The non-violent groups were no longer welcome. They were cast-offs. It was made VERY clear that they were not to be trusted by the new violent leaders in charge.

Another person writes in an e-mail:

People, we should get this out. The Kos Boyz may be celebrating the “death of the Clintons” now, but they don’t know that they could very well be next on the chopping block themselves if they won’t fully assimilate into “The Obama Party”. This is what I feared would happen all along… If we don’t stop this madness ASAP, we can say goodbye to the Democratic Party we know and love.

From now on, we’d have to choose between the GOP and “The Obama Party”. Scary, isn’t it?

Then a person, whose opinion I particularly pay attention to, writes:

Darn right it’s scary and it’s among the reasons why, after voting a straight democratic ticket since 1972, I won’t vote for Obama. It basically means re-aligning the entire party away from the people and values that I’ve supported for decades.

Susan HERE: I’ve never been burdened by having voted straight Democrat because I’ve never seen the point in supporting a single party all the time, and prefer — ideally — voting for the best candidate. But, overall, my choices have usually been for the Democratic candidate. But NOW? With this CULT apparatus taking over the party? No, thank you.

More reactions:

This is sick. This is just like facism, which was one thing when it was just his cultist, but now he’s intent on shutting the rest of us down. Yikes.

And one more:

Against my own financial interest and in the interest of what I believed was the greater good, I’ve supported the Democratic Party (since 1960) and given it my all even when it gave me lousy candidates. But I’m done. I will not be Obotomized.

IF I HAVE TO VOTE FOR JOHN McCAIN TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING, I WILL DO IT. Frankly, I think he is not only more sane — his anger management issues aside — but I also think he is more qualified to be president.

MY THOUGHTS about all of this are embryonic. I’m still in such shock after reading this piece, that I need time to think it through.

And I need YOUR feedback on what this portends.

ONE MORE E-MAIL:

. But how can we get more folks to see this danger fast approaching? I mean, Mr. O wants to obliterate the whole Democratic Party, kill off all of us “Clintonites”, and centralize all power to himself. This should be frightening to more self-proclaimed “progressives”… So why are they now so docile? Why are they ready to sell their souls to this guy?

Or shall we all just buy Mr. O’s version of Mao’s Little Red Book and march in lockstep?

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Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-11 11:36:26

Recreate68 is modeled after all those radicals who descended upon the convention way back when. It was wonderful. Why, everybody got to see it on TV and couldn’t WAIT to get to the polls and vote Republican out of sheer fear of what kind of scum wants to lord over America. That year gave us Richard Nixon. I can’t wait till they do it again. If these radicals learn one thing from history, it’s how to repeat their mistakes exactly. I would be disappointed if they didn’t do it all again. Marvelous. Love it.

Comment by Tricia | 2008-05-11 12:08:34

You know, I think this is mostly like what the Republicans did (fairly successfully, unfortunately) to their party, with the extreme right gaining control. In my mind, this all comes full circle. Rigid and unable to see facts that are clear as day to those who have not been totally bamboozled. (A cartoon for Pat in here somewhere I think!)

 

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-05-11 12:09:56

WE ARE POSTING UPPITY’s piece on Recreate68 in a few minutes.

Stay tuned.

 

Comment by blobert | 2008-05-11 12:37:58

From his hijacking of the web, we see Obama’s totalitarian way of doing business.

Comment by s. hall | 2008-05-11 13:40:25

I can only hope and pray that Hillary runs as an Independent to stop this. She may not win but she could cook Obama’s goose.

Comment by Lou | 2008-05-11 14:15:15

What’ll they do if she wins on an independent ticket? It is not out of the question. If you run the numbers her real support is a cool 75% at least.

Comment by Mary Cusack | 2008-05-11 15:36:18

 
 

Comment by MessyMarcy | 2008-05-11 15:59:57

I don’t think she would run as an Independent, but if she did would it not just hand Obama a win by splitting the anti-Obama vote (and that is what my vote is — I don’t like McCain, I just think he’s better than Obama)?

For right now, we’ve just got to keep supporting her and fighting alongside her to try to keep Obama from getting the nomination.

 

Comment by Eevan | 2008-05-12 00:28:37

Could she still do that? Run as an Independent? I’ve been wanting her to run as an Independent for well over 2 months. The Democratic insiders (Clyburn, Brazile, Dean, etc.) have completely hogtied Hillary from truly being able to compete in this race while letting him get away with flipping her the bird in Raleigh and Michele saying, “I know one thing - if you can’t take care of your own house you SURE don’t need to be running the White House.” Yeah - nothing negative coming from that campaign.

 
 
 

Comment by kenoshaMarge | 2008-05-11 13:53:38

The non-violent groups were no longer welcome. They were cast-offs. It was made VERY clear that they were not to be trusted by the new violent leaders in charge.

Exactly! I was one of the cast-offs then and evidently I’m to be one of the cast-offs now. This shit keeps up, I gonna get a complex!

 

Comment by derridog | 2008-05-11 14:05:59

Yeah, too bad the Democratic Convention isn’t going to be in Chicago. Jimmy Hoffa Jr. could emulate his late and dearly departed Dad (who is swimming somewhere with the fishes chained to a block of concrete) and call out the “pigs” to beat the Obamaites heads in.

Then the whole country would vote for McCain and we’d have 20 more years of Republican rule.

The whole thing would have this incredible symmetry!

 

Comment by wry | 2008-05-11 23:09:12

My Mother voted republican for that very reason. She recoiled from what she saw on TV.

 

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-05-12 05:37:30

Ehemmm……..IT IS FASCISM…..BERLIN 1933…..

 
 

Comment by Mel | 2008-05-11 11:36:44

Why do you think Mr Transparency won’t release his Columia University records?

Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-11 11:48:56

God only knows.

Comment by Mel | 2008-05-11 11:51:31

Uppity, his majors were political science and African American studies there! His exposing his studies exposes him and his beliefs which he is not letting anyone see!

Comment by blobert | 2008-05-11 12:39:04

it would be interesting to see some of his old papers for AA studies.

Comment by s. hall | 2008-05-11 13:41:46

Obama’s book — Dreams of My Father says it all. He hates white people. He is obsessed with his hatred of white people.

 
 
 
 

Comment by Seymour Glass | 2008-05-11 12:52:33

I was one year behind him at CU and I have no doubt why he wont….because it would show that his grades were not stellar and that he got into CU AND harvard only because of affirmative action.

getting into Columbia at the time as a transfer student wasnt too hard - if your original grades were good - but Id bet they didnt hold.

He has admitted he checked off the AA box on his law school aplication - though now his minions say he didnt…

they sure as heck dont want this to become an issue…

remember - Michelle said again last week that “they” told her that her test scores werent high enough to get into Princeton - and that “they” told her Harvard might be too hard….

And of course - one of Obamas smart moves has been to say that affirmative action should move away from being race based to being “class” based.

How convenient! AFTER

Comment by Seymour Glass | 2008-05-11 12:58:30

OOPS!

After the 2 of them got the great advantages that come with having degrees fromsuch elite schools.

Let me tell ya…the hardest thing about the ivy colleges is getting in…once in - theyre not much different….but for the rest of your life when asked - people go wow - when you answer toheir question of where did ya go -

its a joke and a great advantage.

This couple are such frauds…

In 2000, I worked with the political publication that reported what Gore and Bush’s SATs were….MAN - would I luv to the see the Obamas - Id bet they were both hundreds of points below the schools cut off.

Hell - have you looked at Michelles thesis? Its frigging unreadable….

 

Comment by Mimi | 2008-05-11 13:30:22

Seymour: Did you know Barack at Columbia? He has been strangely silent about his time there. One would think it must have been a very formative period in his life, no?
I am unaware of any friends, roommates, classmates, or professors who have spoken out about knowing him at Columbia. I wonder why.

Comment by derridog | 2008-05-11 14:14:16

Yes. I think that is a very important question. Where ARE all his former associates? Where are the people who knew him at school? Where are the people who worked with him while he was a “community organizer” (which I read meant that he worked for a church registering voters after grad school), or when he was in the Illinois Senate? Why won’t these people come forward and vouch for him? Who IS this guy, anyway? He came out of nowhere and suddenly had a big machine and millions of dollars. You will never convince me that all his money is coming off the internet.

Comment by MessyMarcy | 2008-05-11 16:16:16

derridog, some of the questions about where his money came from are answered at

http://tinyurl.com/2anrtw

This is an old article at thecityedition.com that has been updated.

 
 

Comment by TeakWoodKite | 2008-05-11 14:22:19

Seymour Glass, I have read it. it is a compilation of what she learned under Rev. Wrights tutalge.

Mimi, Obama has said his first night in NY was spent on the street…This is unlikely and my theory is that he spent his first few days at Ayers’ crib…

For months now I have been looking for info on his CU days…zip, nada. Can you recall when the past of a candidate was scrubbed? Why?

GW impounded all the paper trial of his time as the Texas gov, but there was a trail.

Comment by Mimi | 2008-05-11 15:21:08

Was Obama at Columbia when he met a Pakistani classmate and traveled with him/her to Pakistan on “vacation”? I was in college in the 1980’s and don’t remember Islamabad as a popular spring break destination

Comment by UncleSam | 2008-05-11 15:47:53

because it would show that his grades were not stellar and that he got into CU AND harvard only because of affirmative action.

His parents having attended Harvard, he was simply another legacy admit, like Bush.

WHO paid for it?

I would look at Auchi, Wright, even NOI,maybe..

Look to those who sent Rezko to see him, too.

 
 
 
 

Comment by alibe | 2008-05-11 15:26:25

Don’t you think he got into Harvard as a legacy, just like Bush got into Yale? Both their daddies were graduates of their respective ivy league schools. Plus Obama had the added plus of being a minority. He may have had grades similar to Bush…poor. Do we know?

 

Comment by jm | 2008-05-11 23:27:18

OMG- “class” based. Does anybody else out there remember - before this insane evil candidacy we had a ‘middle class” PERIOD.

 
 
 

Comment by typical.white.person | 2008-05-11 11:47:33

Everyone take a deep breath.

Hillary is going to win. Hillary knows it. Bill knows it. Many of us know it. We are going to watch Obama self-destruct over the next few months.

Don’t forget to exhale.

Comment by SusanUnPC | 2008-05-11 11:54:04

I wish I were that optimistic. UNLESS we can derail him, he will be the nominee.

You tell ME WHY you are so confident.

Comment by s. hall | 2008-05-11 13:46:11

Susan it almost seems like Bill and Hillary are alone in trying to stop him. Do you think it would be better if she ran as an Independent? Either way I am so done with the Democratic Party. What has Bloomberg and his Unity Party to do with all this? I notice Obama meets with Bloomberg every month to kiss his ring.

One other question–Do you think that the media ultimately wants Obama to take it all or are they still firmly on the Republican side?

Comment by UncleSam | 2008-05-11 15:50:10

Susan it almost seems like Bill and Hillary are alone in trying to stop him.

It’s like Bill’s impeachment, the COUNTRY is behind Clinton, this is a manufactured scenario.

And enough, fuck them, they can’t solve the war.

 
 

Comment by derridog | 2008-05-11 14:17:47

Well, we can’t be confident because, even if she wins everything from now till the end of the primaries, the Media and the party have made it clear that they will vote for Obama anyway.

However,as long as she wants to fight, I’m going to send her money. That’s the one thing she can’t fight without. There’s always a chance that Obama will implode. He has a lot of baggage. So, please, even if it’s only $5.00, send her some cash!

Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-11 21:35:29

Let’s just say she’s still in play if he gets nailed over yet another problem nobody has revealed yet.

Rezko’s not going to sing. he is going to need a president to pardon him. Another good reason to vote for McCain.

 
 

Comment by typical.white.person | 2008-05-11 14:25:10

He will derail himself. BO’s Big Mo is over. It’s time to revert to the mean.

Mr. O and Hillary are both intelligent. However, while the Clintons are both emotionally evolved, the Obamas are underdeveloped.

Since the Obamas (both Barack and Michelle) don’t have the skill set necessary to deal with stress, they resort to bullying tactics which surfaces when they don’t get their way. For Mr. O, it comes across as being sexist and racist. The racism became more obvious after watching his mentor, the Rev. Wright.

While Mr. O CHOSE to remove his name from the Michigan ballot, four candidates CHOSE to remain on the Michigan ballot. Hillary offered to do a re-vote. James Carville went on TV and stated Hillary would finance one-half of the re-vote. Yet, Obama refused.

Mr. O thinks he (male) can simply ignore Hillary (woman) in Michigan and ultimately ignore the will of the people of Michigan. This is blatant bullying by Obama.

People in Michigan and Florida are fully cognizant of Mr. O’s bullying, as they are the ones being disenfranchised.

Lady Hillary, the damsel in distress, keeps waving the “Michigan” hanky every once in a while, but only slightly. At least until the Michigan delegates are finally resolved.

Should Mr. O declare victory on May 20th, it will backfire on him. It goes back to the old rule of thumb, NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING. People will revolt (whether they are delegates or citizens). Only omnipotent people act like that. Mr. O is blinded by his lust for power and his hostility towards anything Clinton (or white people, or both).

Mr. O’s momentum is waning. Elections in WV and KY will speak loudly for Hillary. Subliminal racial messages will come from those elections. Specifically, it will show Mr. O’s inability to connect with the white voter.

When VA and GA voted, Mr. O carried the typical white person. By the time NC voted, the typical white person wised up.

The drama from Mr. O’s “hope” and “change” is winding down.

Because Mr. O has shot his wad, there is a huge gap of time remaining between stimulus (today) and response (convention). That gap is going to have to be filled with something.

Let’s see here…

Rev. Otis Moss

Bill Ayers

Michelle’s racism

Rezko jury verdict

Michigan and Florida

Mr. O’s IL senate record

More investigative reporting on Mr. O

The fact that Mr. O is not electable

Mr. O’s personality style is self-destructive. There is a race to the finish line. Which will happen first? Will people finally catch onto Mr. O’s anti-social personality? Or, will Mr. O’s passive-aggressive hostility get the best of him. I believe the latter. Mr. O has a self-destruct button, and Hillary pushed it when she refused to leave the race upon Mr. O’s numerous demands.

When all of this becomes more and more evident over the next few months, EVERY DELEGATE (super or not) can cast their vote for either candidate at the convention.

By then, Mr. O, The Movie, will be over and people will be back to reality. People (read: delegates) will be so repulsed by Mr. O, and they will see that Hillary is the best choice to move us forward.

Obama is for Hope and Change as much as Bush was a Uniter and not a Divider. They both became proficient on their Orwellian double-speak before running for office.

Nope. Mr. O is going to derail himself. Hillary will be elected. Patience is a virtue. In the mean time, accept things as they are. Find peace and harmony.

Comment by zozosmom | 2008-05-11 21:11:32

I hope you are right.

 

Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-11 21:38:05

My first corporate mentor taught me the most valuable thing I have ever learned. Timing. Timing is everything. You sit and you wait. However long it takes, the moment will occur. And then you get the SOB.

This is why Time is not barry’s friend.

 
 

Comment by Texas Researcher | 2008-05-12 06:10:27

Susan, he can certainly still be derailed.

I have many sites and links concerning his campaign and supporters that have received no attention. Cannot post them without first having someone mirror them, I do not know how. Afraid they will take them down.

If acceptable, I would be willing to e-mail you and Larry re such. The info needs more than just posting in comments. Blog articles could be done re much of it.

I am not much of a blog commenter, mostly a reader. However, I have pretty good knack for finding obscure information.

There are stil unasked and unanswered questions like the one posed below:

“Will Iva Carruthers be the next Wright for Obama? as far as I know she is still on his campaign committee.

“Wright isn’t the only controversial member of Obama’s church. Dr. Iva Carruthers, who describes herself as an active member of the church, is an outspoken advocate of reparations for blacks and was a participant in N’COBRA’s 2004 conference.

Carruthers was identified, along with Wright, as a member of Obama’s African American Religious Leadership Committee. Wright has since been dropped from the group. But Carruthers is sometimes referred to as a spokesman for Wright and works with him closely.

Indeed, Carruthers may be even more controversial, especially on the issue of reparations. She wrote The Church and Reparations―An African American Perspective, which was reportedly “distributed by her denomination” at the 2001 U.N. World Conference Against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance. The conference was considered so extreme that the U.S. delegation, led by then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, walked out.”

She was also Wright’s representive at the following meeting in 2004.

Ndaba: ?A great sitting-down?
By Dora Muhammad
Updated Aug 9, 2003, 08:32 pm

CHICAGO (FinalCall.com) - There?s a certain moment in time, that if leaders have the wisdom to see and seize it, they can make a historic turn in the lives of their people. Such a moment was the July 26 summit on reparations, the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan said as he opened the meeting held at the Salaam Restaurant.
Nearly 50 activists from across the country answered the call to discuss operational unity and a consolidation of efforts, in order to enhance and fortify the movement for reparations for Black people?s suffering in the trans-Atlantic slave trade.

“The principle of reparations is the one great principle that we all can unite around,” Min. Farrakhan stated in his opening remarks. “Religion has not united us. Politics has not united us. Our economic needs have not united us. Our Blackness has not united us.

“But in the principle of reparations, all of us have a stake in it and see the value of it and know that if we unite today on the basis of reparations, then our children and our children?s children can be the beneficiaries of what happens today and from this day forward.”

Gathered together in the Ashanti practice of the principle of consensus, the “big sitting-down”?or ndaba, as the South African Nguni call it?was the fruition of the vision of Dr. Conrad Worrill, the national chairman of the National Black United Front (NBUF).

The church, the courts, the community
Representing Trinity Church and its pastor Reverend Jeremiah Wright, Dr. Iva Carruthers spoke of equipping ministers beyond worship, and enabling them to effectively network, empower people and impact policy. Within the next year, she intends on working with over 400 preachers, with a focus on connecting theology, technology and transnational public advocacy. She termed it: “intentional communication.”

Much of the consolidated case is based on human rights precedents of crimes against humanity, but another strong component of the legal argument is consumer protection law. This will enable the litigation team to challenge the companies on the basis of their lying to the public in denials that they have no connection to the slavery, because the team has gained possession of documents that show the companies? involvement.

Since the consolidated lawsuits are set for a Chicago courthouse, Attorney Lionel Jean Baptiste, who is representing a Chicago plaintiff, has been thrust to the forefront of the legal team. However, he cautioned the summit that the legal battle cannot stand alone in the fight for reparations.

“We understand that we are in an arena that has been set up by the slave master,” he said, “We will not win in that arena, unless we step it up in the streets, unless the political fight is brought to bear.”

http://www.finalcall.com/artman/ …ticle_940.shtml

The Call is Louis Farrakhan’s newsletter.

 
 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-11 12:02:48

Thank you (I always forget that, LOL) ;-)

I pray you are correct!

 

Comment by jes | 2008-05-11 12:05:24

I just posted this on another thread. It also relates to your comments. The MSM is in the tank with Obama. As we’re all aware, they’ve been trying to push Hillary out of the race for months and trying to bury her candidacy. This week, they’ve loudly proclaimed it dead and buried. The vitrol coming from these people is amazing.

Here’s an interesting article in Media Matters that says it’s unprecedented for the media to call a campaign over when it’s this close.

SO NOW THE PRESS TELLS CANDIDATES WHEN IT’S TIME TO QUIT?

Here’s another first: the press’s unique push to get a competitive White House hopeful to drop out of the race. It’s unprecedented.

Looking back through modern U.S. campaigns, there’s simply no media model for so many members of the press to try to drive a competitive candidate from the field while the primary season is still unfolding.

“Clinton is being held to a different standard than virtually any other candidate in history,” wrote Steven Stark in the Boston Phoenix. “When Clinton is simply doing what everyone else has always done, she’s constantly attacked as an obsessed and crazed egomaniac, bent on self-aggrandizement at the expense of her party.”

Indeed, even after Clinton won the Pennsylvania primary convincingly last week, she awoke the next morning to read an angry New York Times editorial, “beseeching her to get the hell out of the race,” as Howard Kurtz put it at washingtonpost.com. On the Times opinion page that day same, Maureen Dowd actually turned to Dr. Seuss rhymes to make her point: “The time is now. Just go. … I don’t care how.”

http://mediamatters.org/columns/200804300001

Comment by UncleSam | 2008-05-11 12:19:02

It is Clinton’s responsibility to stay in, as a leader, remember, this is the same group that brought us to Iraq, using the same methods.

I know it’s hard, and money can be an issue, but she sees it right, trust your judgement, Hillary…

Comment by zozosmom | 2008-05-11 21:13:40

Exactly, the same people who brought us the Iraq war are bringing us Obama. Why don’t the real progressives see that? Why is the mouthpiece for General Electric so pro-Obama? It is fascism.

 
 

Comment by derridog | 2008-05-11 14:23:18

You’re absolutely right. The question that bothers me is why they want her out so badly. This likely means that the corporations don’t want the Clintons because they know how the government runs and historically have put the brakes on corporate greed. But the other question is: do they want Obama because McCain can knock him out easily or do they want Obama because he’s their guy -they put him up to this because he’s in their pockets and they want to take over the Democratic Party and knock all the progressives out of it and leave us with only easily ignored third parties.

I think the latter.

Comment by alibe | 2008-05-11 15:34:12

Me thinks you got it. By Jove I think you definitely have it. One party. No such thing as partisan politics. Just one party…bought and paid for. Same party, different spelling. Fascism by any name is spelled the same.

 

Comment by UncleSam | 2008-05-11 15:59:28

The question that bothers me is why they want her out so badly.

Because they’re stinking idiots.

Both Obama and McCain are the candidates of big business, period, both cheat, using the press in this manner.

But neither man is qualified ot runt eh country, given what we’re facing, very real problems, the biggest threat to our country being the inability to reign in the wars, the costs to us politically militarily, and economically.

There are many ways to go about solving the problem, the greater point is the business community looking ot the short term ants their money to continue, so they’re putting in candidates who will do their bidding, BAD business decisions, but just because someone can manipulate doesn’t mean he’s smart. Not every military man, or Princeton graduate is bright, they believe in Strauss, not understanding why it can never work.

Clinton won’t play ball, I would think, or they feel she would investigate them for their crimes.

BUT, without intelligent governance, those business people lose all, as these wars are breaking the US like Afghanistan did Russia.

And a US failure is internationally catastrophic.

The only way for business to save itself is to clean up, and it can’t.

THEY Are THAT dumb.

All that we see on Wall Street, that’s what they bring to their political decisions too.

The good side, though, is their killing themselves, bringing about their own deaths by stupidity and greed.

Without cleaning up , they destroy themselves, if they clean up, we all win.

 
 

Comment by jm | 2008-05-11 23:34:21

INVESTIGATE WHO IS BEHIND MSNBC, the main toxic waste dump on American. This propoganda is so staged and entrained, it’s about more than money. There is a deeper agenda here - underneath it all there is a powerful manipulative force - and it isn’t wimpy obama.

 
 

Comment by rwc | 2008-05-11 12:41:09

Barky has the party bosses and the DNC in his corner. Barring Rezko ratting him out he will get the nomination.

And Hillary and the mainstream Democrats will be told to either get on board or be thrown under the bus. Just like what Bush and Rove told fellow Republicans when they took over the GOP.

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-05-11 12:59:02

You mean the ones who haven’t already been thrown under the bus?

 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-05-11 13:51:57

If the Democrats threaten me to get on board or else. I will leave the party and become a Republican–because outside of Hillary and my Congresswoman there is no Democrat I can stand anymore. Funny how the only people who have been decent to Hillary are Republican pundits.

I read an article which said that Bill and Hillary are staying in this race because they know something about Obama which would make him bad for this country. God bless them

 
 

Comment by zzzot | 2008-05-11 13:17:00

And the delusion continues….

 

Comment by kenoshaMarge | 2008-05-11 14:01:10

From your keyboard to God’s ear.

I try to believe, I want to believe, and I am afraid. Afraid for my granddaughters who will never know what it’s like to be free and equal citizens in a free and open society. Women forever as things to be used.

Ordinary people to be forever denied the health care they must have to live full and fulfilling lives.

War of somekind without end because it benefits this bank accounts of those that own our government.

And a dishonest and criminally negiligent media that counts on their 1st Amerndment “rights” without doing their 1st Amendment job of informing the people. (Don’t give me your damn silly opinon ala MODO the Dodo, I could care less. Just give me the damn facts and I’ll decide what I think and feel.

 
 

Comment by Mel | 2008-05-11 11:50:10

What is so funny is Obama’s claim to experience is his work as a community organizer in Chicago, home of Saul Alinsky, the organizer who the 1960’s SDS followed to 1968 and when it was rejected by the few, including Ayers and Dohrn, the result was the WU.

Here is Alinsky’s views of revolution in 1971, after the WU terrorists became so violent, sort of what is happening today!

“There’s another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution. To bring on this reformation requires that the organizer work inside the system, among not only the middle class but the 40 per cent of American families - more than seventy million people - whose income range from $5,000 to $10,000 a year [in 1971]. They cannot be dismissed by labeling them blue collar or hard hat. They will not continue to be relatively passive and slightly challenging. If we fail to communicate with them, if we don’t encourage them to form alliances with us, they will move to the right. Maybe they will anyway, but let’s not let it happen by default.

Obama’s tricks are not smart to people who can read and think!

Comment by Mel | 2008-05-11 11:53:01

One add on, the DCP which Obama worked as a community organizer in Chicago followed Saul Alinsky’s teaching! So has the Woods Foundation, the charity that paid for Obama to move and work in Chicago in 1985!

 

Comment by stodghie | 2008-05-11 12:33:50

my, my that language sure reminds me of michelle and barfy’s speeches doesn’t it!

 
 

Comment by Dawnelle | 2008-05-11 11:50:48

This will make it all the easier. Maybe even a little balloons and cake, to celebrate becoming an Independent again.

That is the fastest growing party, I have read. I can learn to like Lou Dobbs. He’s not always acting like he’s xenophobic. He’s way better than Tweety and Olberdouche.

AND, I don’t think BO stands a snowballs chance in (you know) of winning in NOV.

Comment by s. hall | 2008-05-11 13:56:16

Dawnelle — I hope you’re right. I just hope the Media makes its usual right turn. But my question is who gave Obama 250 Mill. We have spoken of moneys coming from rich muslims. So whose side will the media be on in the GE.

Suddenly McCain makes no sense, almost like he is dogging it — I hope he isn’t going to take a dive for Obama.

Comment by Lou | 2008-05-11 14:41:13

Soros who started Move-on.org to help Bill Clinton fight Karl Rove, gave Obawalla (obama) 200 million dollars.

Comment by UncleSam | 2008-05-11 16:02:17

Why in the hell would he do that?

Comment by UncleSam | 2008-05-11 16:03:12

Was soros involved with Turkey?

He was convicted for some money crime, right?

 
 
 

Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-11 21:43:45

Hell no, the Republicans would prop him up even if he were dead, like they did with Strom. Strom was dead for months and still voting. just kidding.

Anyways, they aren’t having Barack Obama. And McCain wants it. He got the bad shaft from Bush, if you recall.

 

Comment by jm | 2008-05-11 23:40:11

Re above: Muslim money…….ended with GE. I know you meant General Election. However, GE is the world’s largest corporation. Got a feeling your comment had a double meaning (below surface).

Anybody, who leads and funds GE? What is GE’s agenda? Has the company been contributing to what/any campaign?

 
 
 

Comment by Truthteller | 2008-05-11 11:51:16

I guess the threat of primary challenges for all those who did not endorse Obama was not empty. And look at how Obama removed Alice Palmer from the ballot.

Comment by UncleSam | 2008-05-11 12:21:27

from k**, and THAT group?

Bwhahahahahahahaha.

Remember, we all supported K**, before, now we don’t.

He lost base too, and every day he looks loonier, and loonier, more isolated.

Comment by wry | 2008-05-11 23:40:24

 
 
 

Comment by MoodSwingeR | 2008-05-11 11:55:05

Where some in Obama see the Second Coming, others (more sober and grounded) see the second coming of Adolf Hitler.

I guess now I have a better understanding of words Samantha Power used in one of her notorious interviews:
“…He wants to move away from electocracy…”

This election season may be your ONLY opportunity to prevent this from happening, because, come January, it may be decided that franchise is a redundant and unnecessary luxury for Americans.

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-05-11 16:58:00

electocracy (rule by elections) reduces the role of citizens to a series of discrete choice

points, often shifting the actual moment of choice to the politician.

 
 

Comment by Aeon | 2008-05-11 11:56:48

THIS post is why OBAMA is and will… WIN BACK OUR COUNTRY FOR - PEOPLE …NOT CORPORATISTS.
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I just wanted to say thank you for your article on senator barack obama who is truly a american who stands for change for and from all americans and people in unity. I have listened to him and have responded by becoming a motivational speaker and advocate supporter for the homeless and struggling families. I have found it to be very Important to speak to as many of our youth as possible in a way that will help them feel structure, worth, and know there is a sincere possibility that someone cares. I am a single mother of three and a grandmother of three I live on a fixed income, worked since the age of 13 and I am now 50. I will forever live by the truth of what senator obama said ” all children are our children” and when we learn to stop judging children or their parents it will forever be a change we can believe in. The inspirational truth of senator obama’s message is a heart and mind choice that will determine action.

When people say action speaks louder than words I can tell my children that it is senator obama’s words that have created action!

I used to read this site daily and was proud of the sentiments of the strong, “patriotic” AMERICAN voices here.

No more. All I read lately on this blog - is no different than the racist, hate filled, pro-war retoric of the RADICAL NEO-CON controlled right who apparently put their support of ISRAEL and perpetual WAR over the true beliefs of …AMERICA.

Sad - that you have chosen this path.
Happy - that the majority of Americans - DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU.

Comment by UncleSam | 2008-05-11 12:22:28

How about those lakers, Aeon?

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-11 12:23:38

Half of the Democratic party sees it little one … when the Republican party demands the equal time that Hillary Clinton did not get the hard rain will be coming on Obama’s head.

 

Comment by Uppity | 2008-05-11 12:26:32

Oh please. You mean to tell me you have no idea how many corporations are bundling money for Obama? Or that half of his top ten contributors are from wall street. Goldman Sachs? JP Morgan? Exelon? You know, that’s the company that has nuclear leaks and got barry to change his legislation so that they don’t have to report any leaks to those dirty masses who live near them? The CEO of CONEd, heir to Thomas Ayers (Bill’s dad), raised 200k for him in bundled money. He was registered as a lobbyist you know. He sits on the board of Exelon too. Look, have your hopey changey dream, but do not ever for a minute think Obama isn’t in corporate pockets. He gets money from lobbyists too. The only difference is he lies about it. Just sayin’.

Comment by beebop | 2008-05-11 12:29:27

Up —

Don’t confuse them with facts. It interferes with the hopey changey reception … now he has to move around the basement again, mess with his joystick and hop on each foot, log back onto the internal site and bathe himself in the bullshit before he can go on with his life. Shallow little pimpled fool.

Comment by mimi | 2008-05-11 13:12:56

I’d prefer it if he went to his Masturbatorium and left us alone.

Jerk-Off!!

 
 

Comment by Northwest rain | 2008-05-11 17:18:23

COGNITIVE DISSONANCE — when does this activate in Obamabots?

Some of the Obamabots really believe that Obama isn’t tied to the massive International corporations.

With Obama’s ties to Chicago corruption — and Obama’s willingness to play the game — he isn’t going to suddenly change into the Savior. Corporations exist to make money — and that is why the corporations are betting heavily on Obama. They expect that he will NOT change the rules and that he will continue to make them wealthy.

 
 

Comment by s. hall | 2008-05-11 14:02:54

Aeon — do you take ice with your Kool Aid or do you just drink it straight? I myself would gag on Obama’s Kool Aid because its made of bile.

 

Comment by HT | 2008-05-11 14:18:00

Delurking once again, because the following statement is bollocks.
“I used to read this site daily and was proud of the sentiments of the strong, “patriotic” AMERICAN voices here.”

I’ve been reading this site since Larry set it up. I’ve seen new people come in, and oldsters move on, and unless this gentleperson has changed monikers, he/she is trying to mislead.

Uppity, I can’t remember. Did you include this one on your bingo card? If not, I’ve seen it repeatedly in the last month, and it really should be included. IT speaks to the ability of some people to distort the truth to try to present a position of legitimacy, to which, in truth, they have no claim.
Back to lurking.

Comment by UncleSam | 2008-05-11 16:05:24

Still trying to prove a negative, which they can’t grasp.

They have no method that works, simply because they can’t understand the dynamics.

 
 

Comment by Truthteller | 2008-05-11 14:18:20

More than the majority of Americans agree with us, you idiot: we are locked in a split Democratic Primary, and the Republicans despise Barack Hussein Obama. Also allow me to remind you that one spells rhetoric with an “h.” You are obviously not very bright, and I imagine you are one of those duped voters who cast a ballot against his or her economic interests.

Now take a hike.

 

Comment by Lou | 2008-05-11 14:54:22

Obama is beholding to Wall street, big oil, and big corporate players. he owes them big time.
Obama has fooled many people into thinking he doesn’t take PAC money

Rev Manning knows all about Obama. He says Obama not only was lovers with Wright but will nominate him as his vice president and Oprah as his Secretary of State. This is heavy stuff. Rev Manning is NOT a kook but I see him as the only person so far who can bring honor to the AA community.

Please Check him out. (he is passionate about saving the AA’s so be patient)If Bill knows something about Obama that is very bad for America, I wonder if Rev Manning and Bill are exchanging words because Rev Manning is saying the same thing.
The best You tubes of Rev Manning is where he is sitting in the chair and speaking to the net audience.

Lovers with Wright. Is that why Michelle is so bitter? Rev Manning says Obama walks like a pimp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxKpdxiXKgY&feature=related

 

Comment by PamFlorida | 2008-05-11 14:58:26

By what metric do you calculate majority? If you compare pledged delegates (without FL. & MI.) and popular vote, the % of difference is very small. Neither candidate will achieve the majic number to guarantee an uncontested nomination before the convention. The SDs don’t count as pledged delegates. They are unpledged until the rounds of voting fails to produce a clear nominee with 2209 or 2025-depending on whether you count FL. & MI.