Kentucky and Oregon Open Thread [Update: Obama’s KY Radio Ads & Offices]

dont forget the under educated white women!

Uppity, don’t forget the sweeties!

Obviously the young women supporting him have no self-respect; they giggle and swoon at his vulgar display. Hopefully, KY women are different just like WVa women.

From Byron York in NR (yeah, you may quibble with the source but numbers/facts don’t lie)

The West Virginia results were as across-the-board as you can get. She won 57-34 among men and 70-24 among women. She won 64-25 among voters who attend church more than once a week and 64-34 among voters who never go to church. She won 69-24 among voters without a college degree and 54-39 among voters with a degree. She won 69-25 among voters who make less than $50,000 a year and 58-34 among voters who make more than that. She won 65-28 among voters who think the economy is the most important issue, 57-37 among voters who think the war in Iraq is the most important issue, and 68-23 among voters who think health care is the most important issue. She won 67-26 among white voters. (We don’t know the breakdown among black voters, because they were too few in number — West Virginia is 95 percent white — for exit pollsters to calculate, although results in other states suggest that blacks probably voted 90-plus percent for Obama.) She won 67-25 among voters who have a union member in their household and 63-31 among voters who don’t. She won 56-38 among voters under 30 years old, 63-27 among voters between 30 and 44 years old, 65-27 among voters between 45 and 59 years old, and 68-28 among voters 60 and older. Among all voters, 70 percent want the campaign to continue, against just 24 percent who want it to end as soon as possible.

According to the Real Clear Politics total, when one includes estimated vote totals in caucus states (a factor which favors Obama) plus results from Florida (which favor Clinton), but nothing from Michigan, where Obama’s name was not on the ballot, Obama’s lead in the national popular vote is 411,915. That figure is less than Obama’s margin of victory in his home of Cook County, Illinois, where, according to the Illinois Board of Elections, Obama won by 429,052 votes. By other counts, Obama’s lead is far less than his winning margin in Cook County. In other words, take away Cook County and Obama is the loser in the national popular vote race. He’s the president of Chicago.

President of Chicago!!! Ho, Ho, Ho. See any dead people walking?

Thank you!

Yes - thank you.

Isn’t this gay-bashing?

I am as opposed to that as I am to racism, ageism, and sexism.

That’s inappropriate.

SO, THERE WE GO AGAIN, AS ALLWAYS OBAMA IS WAITING FOR HILLARY REMARKS, AND THEN HE USE AS HIS. AS ALLWAYS. HE IS JUST HILLARYS “IDEAS THIEF”.

My own feeling is that people do not need to feed the troll.

Whenever something truly relevant is said, then I respond.

It’s better to let trolls be trolls than become the police.

Why, it’s fun to see him try to compete.

He’s stupid, don’t let it get to you, a stupid person can be helpful.

He doesn’t make it to useful idiot, but when you need a plunger, well, he’s your guy.

Don’t be bothered by them. They THINK they’re working for Axlerod; they’re actually working for McCain.

Insulting progressives isn’t the way to persuade them to vote for a weak, effete, faux liberal dirty Chicago pol with ties to coal, nuke power, and General Dynamics, who has a crew of gay-hating preachers touting him. But that’s all these morons do–go shit on any board that isn’t “Obama is Jesus” and think that they’re somehow doing Obama’s work. They aren’t. They’re doing McCAIN’s work.

Fucking simple tools–just LAUGH at them! Tell them to send some money to NARAL, because NARAL isn’t getting a dime from the likes of US anymore!

Does Hillary have plans for Election Day?

I agree. It was “just politics” up to a point. But Obama passed that point when he insisted on caucuses first and rejected FINANCIALLY SUPPORTED primaries next and then presented his insane 50/50 proposition.

At that point, he lost me entirely. He really deserves the criticism that he’s willing to steal the election.

By the way, you do know he’s on record in FL as saying he would work to seat the delegates. He said that to the press after a fund-raiser.

Neither candidate ever signed a pledge agreeing to disenfranchise the voters. They did agree to not campaign in those states. She actually kept to the bargain much better than he did.

He set up phone banks with Edwards to “get out the vote” for the uncommitted, which most politicos will tell you, is the hardest opponent of ALL! He ran ads continuously in FL.

But that aside, the fact is that he’s denied her the reality, which is she IS now ahead of him in popular vote.

And that’s the fact of the matter.

The Democratic Party is about to name him, and he’s behind already in the popular vote.

Check out CNN’s latest on-line poll and see what the public thinks. They think popular vote is far fairer of a measurement than delegate count.

Truly……he has not won the will of the people in the Democratic party, and it doesn’t matter how many East Coast liberals he trots out as endorsements.

We all know it.

It’s depressing as heck.

Five states violated the Rules and moved their caucus/primary dates up. Why were only two punished?

And how come Obama supporter Brazile is the one who pushed hard for the Rules Committee to take away ALL the delegates in FL and MI, when the “Rules” only call for a 50% reduction? Why was the schedule so important to her? And don’t tell me Santa Claus.

But several plans have been floated to REVOTE them an Obama is the one who always stands in the way. How can you as a Democrat support what amounts to voter suppression? Isn’t that how we got Bush for God’s sake? That is the non-starter with me for Obama. He’d rather undermine the foundation of the Democratic party than trust voters. What an ass. Good people marched, fought and died for the right to vote. He is turning the clock back.

do you have a link to the Hillary quote?
otherwise, I won’t believe for a minute that she made that statement.

“weren’t going to count for anything,”

If you read or heard the rest of that quote, Senator Clinton stated that it was WRONG for them not to count and BE COUNTED!

Get your facts straight.

I believe this quote is out of context and that the gist of her statement was to say that they should count. You should not be quoting that without the context.
She only signed statement not to campaign, not to say they shouldn’t count. Then Obama did campaign by running 1.2 million TV ads.
Don’t make things up. It makes his campaign look even worse.

This really is the perfect for her to run as Independent. Dem party has thrown out millions of voters and has treated Hillary and Bill terribly - no appreciation, no respect.
I do believe she has a good chance of winning as third party - which is why so many trolls hate the idea. She’d get both Dems and Repubs. Lots of people don’t like either man. So many Repub women would vote for first woman president.
In my work I deal with varied groups of women. The one way I can always bond them is our role as women. Repub women are aware of how we’ve been screwed as women. That’s why they’re coming out in record numbers. In the privacy of voting booth they defy husbands and Repub families for the person they know represents them best.
Women, 54% of voters? Plus, all the men who like her, dislike the others. I think in a three-way race she could take it. And if she loses it would shake up both those guys, they’d be most afraid of her. I would love to see it. They’d get together to attack her again. Hah. Bad for both of them. It would so cool - both scared of the girl.

I am with you on that.

I did not vote for a couple of races on the ballot merely because I hadn’t done the work to see what their positions were. Not in November. I fully intend to be an educated Independent voter, not a straight ticket Democrat. If Clinton is not an option, Ohio is an important battleground state so I will vote McCain.

ditto.