Will Barack Throw Mama From the Train? [Update Two] + NEW THREAD II

Punctuation, correct spelling, and literacy in general are a little too much to ask for as criteria for most blog postings, but you could at least cut back on the meds before you try to express a rational thought (if you ever have one), you moron.

We seem to have watch the obamadrama, every single day.

And isn’t this always the case with dysfunctional men?

Every have a drunk, or a druggie in your family?

Everything has to revolve around his behavior, jeez, why is the press SO co- dependent upon Obama?

It’s not psychologically healthy.

We do this because the POS is not qualified to be President, they do it because they’re codependent on each other for approval, apparently…

reporting for duty, ret to go!!!

Hey JoeySky!

Wasn’t she amazing? Yet Again!
Now I’m listening to her from an audio tape from this morning from Riverdaughter who grabbed it from Taylor Marsh. lol

Here’s the link. It’s very good she’s talking a lot about getting FL and MI back on the board!

Republicans do not think like that.

Republicans have their own definition of patriotism and it has nothing to do with reality.
Surely you have noticed that to republicans, party loyalty trumps everything. Unfortunately the Democratic leadership shows signs of the same disease.

What I really don’t get is why some young women hate her so much. I think it might be some sort of backlash against their mothers…you know how it is, when you get to college, you want to disassociate yourself with your parents, and for those young ladies, Hillary reminds them too much of their mother or something.

That’s all I can figure. Because it boggles my mind that any young woman who calls herself liberal would hate Hillary.

(Not all young women hate Hillary…but I have talked to some who hold her in downright contempt. So I think those that do have issues, or something.)

Even some card-carrying Hillary haters are jumping to her defense. I think she has surprised many of them. They admire her toughness.

I believe.

If we look at the current reaction (backlash) to the Governor of Mass. who is the prototype for Obama branding — we see people who now believe they were duped by hopie changie stuff — same message as Obama and the Governor IS NOT delivering. Voters in Mass. went for Hillary, overwhelmingly. Making Kennedy and Kerry look like two stupid jerks for supporting Obama.

It is a very long time before that DEM convention in August. Although progress in exposing Obama as a fraud seems to be going at a snails pace — momentum seems to be growing against his useless, meaningless “message”.

We have Major Problems, the economy is probably at the top of most people’s list — Obama has NO solutions — nothing original to offer. That’s probably one of the major reasons why Obama lost so convincingly in WV.

Ah, I see, is handing the microphone over symbolic?

WOW — great observation — OF COURSE Mrs. Obama testifies in church — she isn’t going to be a quiet church mouse — after all — SHE is an important person — she’s very rich and plans to be richer.

But yes — the way she speaks — Revival/Tent meeting — Evangelist type speak! I’ve heard this cadence so often growing up — you just know the ones who learned public speaking in their church.

It seems to me like Michelle Obama is the link between Barack and pretty much all of his questionable connections. She was working with Bernadine Dohrn when she and Obama met. Either she introduced him to Ayers or Ayers introduced him to her.

I have had the understanding that she introduced him to the Tinity Church. I think if anyone digs around in Michelle Obama’s closet there are some stinky skeletons to be found. She has a lot of hate lurking inside that sneaks out more and more.

He’s a loser if his thugs aren’t gaming the system.

He needs someone to project onto. It’s all part of his gig.

I’ve got news for Little Lord Obama. It doesn’t seem to be working. He has tried to pull every trick in the book on Hillary but his numbers aren’t rising. Hers are. BWAHAHAHAHA!

Nobody wants a weak whiner as a President. It’s that simple.

Obama is predictable in that sense. You’re spot on.

If he accuses, watch for how he’s doing exactly that.

I was blushing for even Hillary for jumping on Bush’s statements. What a farce.

I think your analysis is reasonable, too. And although this as-yet-unseen tape of Mrs. O does seem rather too convenient both in its unavailability and in its purported provenance, I don’t at all doubt that there’s something not-too-disimilar floating around out there somewhere.

Speaking as a conservative who talks to lots of conservatives, let me give you some insight into our thinking on these subjects. Yes, it’s true we think Hillary would be a stronger candidate than Obama in the general election. But we also think McCain is likely to defeat either of your guys. We think McCain has about a 3 to 2 odds of beating Hillary and a 4 to 1 or better shot at beating Obama–as long as the economy doesn’t go all the way into the tank before election day.

Here’s why we think McCain will win, and why we’d rather see Hillary running on your side, even though she’s a stronger candidate than Obama:

Why we think we’ll win: The mistake you Dems made in your nomination process was that you figured that, because Bush is so highly unpopular, you absolutely could not lose in 2008. But, oops, you sorta kinda forgot that you wouldn’t be running against Bush in 2008. While you were still in that happy mode of thinking you couldn’t possibly lose, you thought you therefore had the luxury to nominate whoever ran you the nicest tingle up your leg. Or to put things less teasingly, you allowed yourselves for too long to indulge the very noble fantasy of nominating either the first black or the first female from a major party as your candidate for president–without seeing that both of those candidates have very serious electoral disabilities, not the least of which electoral disabilities is that one is a woman and the other is black. I’m not talking about how good and nice and qualified your candidates are. I’m talking about how electable they are. You’re now finally starting to wake up and realize that you aren’t running against Bush and that you very easily could lose this dern thing, but you’re so trapped in the anti-Bush mode that your two prong strategy is (1) to try to convince voters that McCain is really Bush and (2) to chant non-stop for change. Anti-Everything-Bush and Change–that’s your two pronged strategy for the White House. Yes, there’s lots of other details you can feed to the 5% who are politics wonks, but Anti-Bush and Change is the main thing that you will get through to 95% of voters.

Unfortunately for you Dems, on your first prong, the only issue where you can really tie McCain to Bush is Iraq. Just like Bush, McCain says he’s going to gut it out and win the war. But unlike Bush, when it comes to successfully gutting it out in war, McCain has an impressive credibility by virtue of his actions in a certain place called Vietnam. By contrast, your two candidates say they are definitely going to give up on Iraq, which again reminds folks of that certain place called Vietnam, as to which the left’s contribution to the way that war ended is not something most Americans recollect with admiration (Contrary to what some pot-stewed old hippies might still think, recollecting images such as Jane Fonda simulating firing enemey AAA at US pilots does not warm voters’ hearts toward the left). Given the two options of gutting it out or cutting and running, the majority of the American people will say, “I’m with that tough SOB who says we can and will win.” So Iraq, which is the only issue where you can clearly tie McCain to Bush, is a net positive for McCain. McCain will be thrilled to talk about nothing but Iraq all day every day between now and the election if your Dems are foolish enough to have that conversation.

Now your other prong of your strategy is “change.” And for sure democratic peoples do like a dose of change now and then. But not too much change. McCain can point to his record of disagreeing with Bush and the GOP on a lot of issues, even to the point that many GOPers are downright fed up with him. So most people will recognize that McCain is not Bush, and that a switch from Bush to McCain is a change–a real change, but not a frightening change. However, another switch from a Bush to a Clinton looks a lot like a “change” we already tried. That’s not change. That’s a “been there done that” cycle the repition of which would resemble mental illness on a national scale. We’ve had enough of the Bushes, but we’ve also had enough of the Clintons, too. And that’s why Obana’s “change” mantra works so well against Hillary. But it won’t work for Obama against McCain. Yes, a switch from a Bush to Obama would be a definite change, a radical change–too radical for most voters. Obama-style change is just too unknown, too scary–especially when you think about the kind of folks Obama hangs out with. A switch from Bush to McCain feels about right–a change voters can understand, absorb, feel safe and comfortable with, live with.

So the change mantra actually plays out in McCain’s favor against either Clinton or Obama. Obama-change is too much scarey change. Hillary-change is just the same old Clintons. McCain-change is just right.

Why we’d rather run against Hillary, even though she has a better chance of beating McCain: Even though we feel confident that McCain would defeat either Hillary or Obama, we also know that a lot could happen between now and election day. McCain is no sure-winner against either of your guys. The aforementioned precarious economy could go right into the tank. McCain himself could drop dead tomorrow. However, we think Obama, if elected, would be such a disaster–not just for us, but for the country–that we would rather see Hillary running on your side even though she has a better shot a beating our guy. The smaller chance of Obama defeating McCain entails such great risk for the country, if he did happen to win, that we’d rather face the greater possibility of Hillary beating McCain. If worst came to worst, we conservatives feel like we could live with a Hillary presidency. We survived her husband; we can survive her.

As I indicated in my earlier post, to many of us conservatives (at least those of us who can allow themselves to think objectively), Hillary would not be that much worse than McCain, and maybe not as bad in actual effect. In case you hadn’t noticed, we conservatives are not fond of McCain. From our point of view, he’s been pretty much wrong on every important issue except the war and abortion, and we don’t particularly trust him on the latter issue, especially where judicial appointments are concerned. Indeed, as president, McCain might succeed in moving the country further left than could Hillary could because conservatives would find it difficult to unite to stop him when he started on one of his predictable usual leftward drifts. However, if a President Hillary tried to push the exact same agenda, conservatives would easily and quickly unite to limit her movement. Because conservatives would intantly rally together to oppose Hillary, but would be fractured if they tried to oppose McCain, the exact same left-leaning policy would have more success if pushed by a President McCain than if pushed by a Presdient Hillary. Recollect that it was Bill Clinton who got both NAFTA and welfare reform enacted, two legislative victories that a GOP president could never have gotten through congress. It is often the case that a left-leaning president has more legislative success when he moves right, and a right-leaning president has more success when he moves left. In actual fact, McCain would probably do more legislative damage to the conservative agenda than could Hillary, and I’m not at all sure his judicial appointees would be any better than hers.

So the ulitimate point of this long ramble is: If we had some good video that would help stop Obama in his tracks right now, we wouldn’t sit on it until he was anohter step closer to the White House. We’d have it out there now, and be happy to take our chances with Hillary in the fall. Come November, if she’s on the ballot, I will seriously consider voting for her, just like I already did in the Democratic primary here in Texas. I’m starting to like Hillary–a little– honest. I really do admire her fighting spirit in the face of the relentless obituary-writing the MSM has been giving the last couple of weeks. I guess maybe I’m starting to think of her as a kindred spirit because maybe now she undertands the treatment we conservatives get from the MSM 24-7-52-year in and year out.