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		<title>By: AnninCA</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-255727</link>
		<dc:creator>AnninCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary has never expressed interest in the VP position.

That was all the unity people talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary has never expressed interest in the VP position.</p>
<p>That was all the unity people talk.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Lee</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-255715</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-255715</guid>
		<description>"They sure don't want the Clinton family in the White House-too much chance things will get "out of control."

There you have given the best reason why an Obama/Clinton ticket is not going to happen. Barack is too smart to get mixed up with the two of them. They brings - things - nasty things - out in each other. And I have no doubt that Bill would inevitably do something to sabotage Obama for beating Hillary. Consciously or not. It would happen. Bill Clinton is NOT to be trusted anywhere near the WH again.

No way. Hillary alone? Maybe. But not with Bill.

Besides, Barack doesn't need them a whit. You guys need to move on already. Hillary has. Notice?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They sure don&#8217;t want the Clinton family in the White House-too much chance things will get &#8220;out of control.&#8221;</p>
<p>There you have given the best reason why an Obama/Clinton ticket is not going to happen. Barack is too smart to get mixed up with the two of them. They brings - things - nasty things - out in each other. And I have no doubt that Bill would inevitably do something to sabotage Obama for beating Hillary. Consciously or not. It would happen. Bill Clinton is NOT to be trusted anywhere near the WH again.</p>
<p>No way. Hillary alone? Maybe. But not with Bill.</p>
<p>Besides, Barack doesn&#8217;t need them a whit. You guys need to move on already. Hillary has. Notice?</p>
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		<title>By: Acanthus</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253586</link>
		<dc:creator>Acanthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 12:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253586</guid>
		<description>In a Pew poll released back last November,Bill Cosby was cited as a "good influence on the black community" by 85% of the respondents. Black respondents. Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a Pew poll released back last November,Bill Cosby was cited as a &#8220;good influence on the black community&#8221; by 85% of the respondents. Black respondents. Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary McGowan</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253480</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary McGowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 08:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253480</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;"Obama’s campaign has been very clever in carving out a strategy to amass Democratic delegate votes, but its ... built largely on victories in states that no Democrat will win in November—that will fall apart under Republican pressure."

"And then where will we be?"&lt;/em&gt;

Exactly.

Or to offer a reply, We will, increasingly surrounded, still be fighting the pushers of the Anglo-Dutch oligarcial system, who regard us (and their minions, even) as cattle to be herded and slaughtered at their insane whim.

Had FDR lived some years longer, we could have cornered them through governmental regulation and a developed world where people could see their evil for what it is.

They sure don't want the Clinton family in the White House--too much chance things will get "out of control."

How many people know that there were at least two assassination/coup attempts against FDR? The first shot and killed a local politician on the stage with him (between the election and his inauguration, if memory serves). The second being the more widely known exposure of the plot to overthrow Roosevelt by General Smedley Butler.

They will stop at nothing. They can, however, be contained through the application of wise policies. That is what our American System was intended to do. 

Send these scum back to running casinos and investment houses. And tax them well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Obama’s campaign has been very clever in carving out a strategy to amass Democratic delegate votes, but its &#8230; built largely on victories in states that no Democrat will win in November—that will fall apart under Republican pressure.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;And then where will we be?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Exactly.</p>
<p>Or to offer a reply, We will, increasingly surrounded, still be fighting the pushers of the Anglo-Dutch oligarcial system, who regard us (and their minions, even) as cattle to be herded and slaughtered at their insane whim.</p>
<p>Had FDR lived some years longer, we could have cornered them through governmental regulation and a developed world where people could see their evil for what it is.</p>
<p>They sure don&#8217;t want the Clinton family in the White House&#8211;too much chance things will get &#8220;out of control.&#8221;</p>
<p>How many people know that there were at least two assassination/coup attempts against FDR? The first shot and killed a local politician on the stage with him (between the election and his inauguration, if memory serves). The second being the more widely known exposure of the plot to overthrow Roosevelt by General Smedley Butler.</p>
<p>They will stop at nothing. They can, however, be contained through the application of wise policies. That is what our American System was intended to do. </p>
<p>Send these scum back to running casinos and investment houses. And tax them well.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253455</link>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 07:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253455</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;“Well, I can’t go quite that far. LOL*”&lt;/em&gt;

I can.  To underestimate a person who has inspired this kind of fervor is to do so at your own risk.  And I’m not going to risk my own freedoms because I simply couldn’t see past my own nose. Or because I was too hung up in the idea of how it might look that I bought into a conspiracy theory. Barack Obama is not what he seems. He has a sketchy past, especially during his college years that is out and out creepy. How many people have no recollection of their college years? Columbia U is in NYC for God’s sake. NYC!!! I respect that he took his studies seriously, but come on!!! It’s a very vibrant campus with lots of activities that engage the surrounding communities. And it’s a big melting pot. Race and racism is not over the top just walking around, especially the Columbia U area which borders Harlem, a black community. Yet Obama lived off campus all the way on the east side which amounted to a arduous commute in crosstown traffic. Totally unnecessary since Columbia’s surrounding community is very hospitable to students seeking housing. Something’s up there. And until he offers some insight, then I remain suspicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“Well, I can’t go quite that far. LOL*”</em></p>
<p>I can.  To underestimate a person who has inspired this kind of fervor is to do so at your own risk.  And I’m not going to risk my own freedoms because I simply couldn’t see past my own nose. Or because I was too hung up in the idea of how it might look that I bought into a conspiracy theory. Barack Obama is not what he seems. He has a sketchy past, especially during his college years that is out and out creepy. How many people have no recollection of their college years? Columbia U is in NYC for God’s sake. NYC!!! I respect that he took his studies seriously, but come on!!! It’s a very vibrant campus with lots of activities that engage the surrounding communities. And it’s a big melting pot. Race and racism is not over the top just walking around, especially the Columbia U area which borders Harlem, a black community. Yet Obama lived off campus all the way on the east side which amounted to a arduous commute in crosstown traffic. Totally unnecessary since Columbia’s surrounding community is very hospitable to students seeking housing. Something’s up there. And until he offers some insight, then I remain suspicious.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253444</link>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 07:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253444</guid>
		<description>Matterhorn,

Read this article if you want a perspective on the problem:

http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_3_black_family.html

To be sure, the problem at this point is complex.  But in the last 40 years, single parent homes have decimated the black underclass in a time period when blacks have made great strides. I agree with much of what Cosby addresses. And one of the things that has pissed me off with Obama is that he says nothing! And that’s just more of the same. Living in the urban black community and part of the working poor, I wish I could offer a perspective. I’ve worked with teen mothers and I have to say the problem is one of deeply rooted ignorance. An ignorance that is handed down through the generations. Schools don’t help because it is a bureaucracy that must serve first the teachers’ Unions. I am pro Union, but I have to say this is one Union that I think works against the best interests of the kids. What would be needed in the black community is a totally different approach that understands that middle class value systems are not in place in family units. Schools would have to on some level, recreate what’s lacking at home. Also, the single mother community is one that relies heavily on extended family units. Efforts must be  made to understand this and realize you are not just working with 2 parent households. But here’s where other blacks could be key. Helping to elevate education as something that is not only necessary, but desirable. Unfortunately, during the Reagan Years a culture emerged that devalued education and it’s spreading in the same way drugs did to white America, too. Hence, the emergence of hip hop culture and rap. Also, the stupidity of validating black vernacular under Ebonics encouraged AAs not to learn standard English. If you can’t speak standard English you won’t want to read. If you don’t read, then you are functionally illiterate and cut off from education.

Look I could go on. It’s complex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matterhorn,</p>
<p>Read this article if you want a perspective on the problem:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_3_black_family.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_3_black_family.html</a></p>
<p>To be sure, the problem at this point is complex.  But in the last 40 years, single parent homes have decimated the black underclass in a time period when blacks have made great strides. I agree with much of what Cosby addresses. And one of the things that has pissed me off with Obama is that he says nothing! And that’s just more of the same. Living in the urban black community and part of the working poor, I wish I could offer a perspective. I’ve worked with teen mothers and I have to say the problem is one of deeply rooted ignorance. An ignorance that is handed down through the generations. Schools don’t help because it is a bureaucracy that must serve first the teachers’ Unions. I am pro Union, but I have to say this is one Union that I think works against the best interests of the kids. What would be needed in the black community is a totally different approach that understands that middle class value systems are not in place in family units. Schools would have to on some level, recreate what’s lacking at home. Also, the single mother community is one that relies heavily on extended family units. Efforts must be  made to understand this and realize you are not just working with 2 parent households. But here’s where other blacks could be key. Helping to elevate education as something that is not only necessary, but desirable. Unfortunately, during the Reagan Years a culture emerged that devalued education and it’s spreading in the same way drugs did to white America, too. Hence, the emergence of hip hop culture and rap. Also, the stupidity of validating black vernacular under Ebonics encouraged AAs not to learn standard English. If you can’t speak standard English you won’t want to read. If you don’t read, then you are functionally illiterate and cut off from education.</p>
<p>Look I could go on. It’s complex.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253434</link>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 07:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253434</guid>
		<description>I've not heard him make any statments with regard to AA issues during this election. Perhaps the writer is talking about his time in Chicago? 

But the write lost me with the quote as well.

Huh????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not heard him make any statments with regard to AA issues during this election. Perhaps the writer is talking about his time in Chicago? </p>
<p>But the write lost me with the quote as well.</p>
<p>Huh????</p>
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		<title>By: Minina</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253417</link>
		<dc:creator>Minina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 06:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253417</guid>
		<description>OMG, Adolph Reed was my professor at another university!!! Unless he's changed (unlikely, as this was just a few years back), Adolph is very interested in the (so-called obsolete) working class. Although he does not touch on the subject of class in that article, I can see it informing his choice to not support Obama. After all, he understands the injustices of race as having at least something to do with class; the intersection of race and class has informed some of Adolph's writings from a few years back. 

Adolph and I had a disagreement on the nature and role of trade unions, with his opinion more nuanced than mine (I was a first year grad student then). But for the most part I respect his opinions on a range of subjects. Good to know he's not jumped on the bandwagon like so many of his colleagues in academia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, Adolph Reed was my professor at another university!!! Unless he&#8217;s changed (unlikely, as this was just a few years back), Adolph is very interested in the (so-called obsolete) working class. Although he does not touch on the subject of class in that article, I can see it informing his choice to not support Obama. After all, he understands the injustices of race as having at least something to do with class; the intersection of race and class has informed some of Adolph&#8217;s writings from a few years back. </p>
<p>Adolph and I had a disagreement on the nature and role of trade unions, with his opinion more nuanced than mine (I was a first year grad student then). But for the most part I respect his opinions on a range of subjects. Good to know he&#8217;s not jumped on the bandwagon like so many of his colleagues in academia.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253192</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 03:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-253192</guid>
		<description>An interesting post by Dr. Reed, who has close hand knowledge of Obama.
I disagree on a couple of points. First, Reed plays the far left game of cherry picking Clinton failures in order to descredit the finest governing record of our time. And he uses a vague description of Bill's supposed racial politics. Please.
Then he says Hillary can't win against McCain. Double please. Hasn't he noticed the ton of political capital we have just now? Even Obama might win the ge.
The problem is Obama's ignorance and inexperience. He's wasted capital already with Wright and BitterGate. He would waste more in office with the string of far left cliches he's been reciting. And he has no grasp of policy, unless ruining the Clinton policies of healthcare reform and bipartisanship and spouting a liberal wish are valid qualifications.
This is a precious moment of opportunity for the party, and we can't afford to waste it on a clueless poser with a bag of rhetorical tricks.
http://a-civilife.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting post by Dr. Reed, who has close hand knowledge of Obama.<br />
I disagree on a couple of points. First, Reed plays the far left game of cherry picking Clinton failures in order to descredit the finest governing record of our time. And he uses a vague description of Bill&#8217;s supposed racial politics. Please.<br />
Then he says Hillary can&#8217;t win against McCain. Double please. Hasn&#8217;t he noticed the ton of political capital we have just now? Even Obama might win the ge.<br />
The problem is Obama&#8217;s ignorance and inexperience. He&#8217;s wasted capital already with Wright and BitterGate. He would waste more in office with the string of far left cliches he&#8217;s been reciting. And he has no grasp of policy, unless ruining the Clinton policies of healthcare reform and bipartisanship and spouting a liberal wish are valid qualifications.<br />
This is a precious moment of opportunity for the party, and we can&#8217;t afford to waste it on a clueless poser with a bag of rhetorical tricks.<br />
<a href="http://a-civilife.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://a-civilife.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fem Dem inPa.</title>
		<link>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252583</link>
		<dc:creator>Fem Dem inPa.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 22:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/05/17/obama-no/#comment-252583</guid>
		<description>Keeulay

I won't vote for Obama because he said he dossn't need my vote. I'm a boomer-aged over-educated female from a steelmaking community who had to leave home and family to make a living. Now he tells me I'm bitter and I cling to my religion and I fear anyone who is not like me? I'm sorry. He doesn't get to go there. NOT THIS TIME! I spent my life with people not like me trying to teach their children to think for themselves and to make their lives better through education. His arguments don't fly with me, and I've never heard or seen him lead one thing except the parade to the money trough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keeulay</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t vote for Obama because he said he dossn&#8217;t need my vote. I&#8217;m a boomer-aged over-educated female from a steelmaking community who had to leave home and family to make a living. Now he tells me I&#8217;m bitter and I cling to my religion and I fear anyone who is not like me? I&#8217;m sorry. He doesn&#8217;t get to go there. NOT THIS TIME! I spent my life with people not like me trying to teach their children to think for themselves and to make their lives better through education. His arguments don&#8217;t fly with me, and I&#8217;ve never heard or seen him lead one thing except the parade to the money trough!</p>
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