Obama is Bush Redux
By Bud White on May 19, 2008 at 7:03 PM in Barack Obama, Clinton, Cultist Thugs, DNC, Daily Kos, Electability, Electoral College, Florida, Hillary Clinton, Huffington Post, Kristen Breitweiser, MyDD, Obamedia, Popular Vote, Presidential Candidates, Race Card, Superdelegates, White People
Written by Bud White (Retired from the L.A.P.D. and now working full-time for No Quarter). A line from his role in L.A. Confidential: “It’ll look like justice. That’s what the man got. Justice.”
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Kristen Breitweiser was married to Ronald Breitweiser, an executive at Fiduciary Trust International. They lived a charmed upper-middle class life in Middletown Township, N.J. They had one daughter and a dog named Sam. They were Republicans.
On September 11, 2001, Ronald was killed at 2 World Trade Center. His wedding ring was found in October at ground zero and Kristen wore it on her right hand.
Kristen Breitweiser strongly disagreed with the Bush Administration’s foreign policy after 9/11, particularly in regards to the invasion of Iraq. She campaigned hard for John Kerry and now writes for the Huffington Post. Ann Coulter attacked her and the other Jersey Widows in a particularly ugly manner. She has earned her bone fides as a critic of the current administration.
The Obama supporters’ biggest insult, in these pages and others, is that Hillary supporters are Republicans, as if recoiling from disenfranchisement, racial politics, and blatant sexism makes one a Republican. We believe, in fact, that it is the Obama supporters who most closely resemble the far Right in their viciousness towards Hillary, and their use of race, sexist stereotypes, and disenfranchisement as electoral tools.
I take the bait: perhaps we should be listening to former Republicans, people like Breitweiser. We should do this for no other reason than to understand the thinking of independent voters and fellow Americans.
Obama supporters are delusional if they think that their race-baiting, misogyny, and jerryrigging the nomination will go unnoticed or unpunished. Kristen Breitweiser writes:
Those who are responsible for putting Democrats in the broken place we are in right now with regard to Barack Obama had better own it to the end. Leave those bumper stickers on and wear those campaign pins until the bitter end folks because YOU OWN IT. And people are going to want to know who is to blame.
And as for the superdelegates, just an FYI, we have the list with your names, you will be held accountable on Election Day and beyond, too. This time around, everybody’s going to be looking for accountability.
On her conference on Friday, Hillary specifically apologized to her on-line supporters for the nastiness coming from Obama supporters. I was reminded of the strike staged by Alegre and other DailyKos diarists, and I went back and read Alegre’s post and a few of the comments. This one comment struck me because of the author’s ahistorical understanding of the 1990s and misplaced hatred:
Hillary Clinton…typifies a wing of the Democratic party that is anathema, a wing that is responsible for the party’s downfall, and complicit with the rise of radical conservatism. The wing that sells out its principles, moves ever towards the middle, which is itself ever moving right, the wing that allowed “liberal” to become a bad word…She scoffs at party-building, and disagrees with the 50-state strategy.
The suggestion that Hillary is responsible for the rise of the Right typifies Clinton Derangement Syndrome (CDS). Anglachel, who has been exploring the Left’s CDS for months, writes:
The Republicans have good reason to hate both the Clintons - Hillary and Bill beat them. Repeatedly. The Democrats have no good reason to hate the Clintons - they beat Republicans repeatedly.
What the hell is up with my party? Disenfranchising voters to throw an election? Declaring vast swaths of party loyalists to be racists? Deriding party stalwarts as “Republican-lite”? Dismissing the economic successes of a previous Democratic administration? Just why are the self-described progressives so frantic to remove Bill Clinton from the company of Democratic presidents?
In addition to Obama’s lack of experience, race-baiting, and unsavory associates, many of us are turned off by him exactly and ironically because his own supporters’ belligerence towards Hillary, as shown above. Kristen Breitweiser succinctly describes the backlash against Obama:
[M]any Clinton supporters are reluctant to vote for Obama if he becomes the nominee. It’s not because they are bitter. It is because they chose Hillary over Obama for two real reasons: experience and definition.
Supporting Breitweiser’s assertions regarding Obama’s many weaknesses, Alegre writes that Hillary is the stronger candidate because of her electoral strength:
At this point, neither Obama nor Hillary can win sufficient pledged delegates to secure the nomination. This means the superdelegates have the power and obligation to decide who will be the best, most electable candidate for our party. Obama and his supporters must recognize that he did not win the major (swing) states and that his victory in states that are highly unlikely to vote Democratic in the fall make Hillary the stronger and therefore our strongest candidate in the general election.
In addition to her electoral strength, Hillary now leads in popular votes.
Obama partisans should listen closely. There are rumblings of mass defections by women, working-class whites, and independent voters. The neo-liberals can call us names, but they must understand that for many of us an Obama nomination would be as illegitimate as Bush “winning” Florida in 2000, and we will not condone the smearing of perhaps the most racially progressive couple our party has produced by voting for a candidate whose tactics go against everything we believe in.
Written by Bud White (Retired from the L.A.P.D. and now working full-time for No Quarter): It’ll look like justice. That’s what the man got. Justice. - L.A. Confidential
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Kristen Breitweiser was married to Ronald Breitweiser, an executive at Fiduciary Trust International. They lived a charmed upper-middle class life in Middletown Township, N.J. They had one daughter and a dog named Sam. They were Republicans.
On September 11, 2001, Ronald was killed at 2 World Trade Center. His wedding ring was found in October at ground zero and Kristen wore it on her right hand.
Kristen Breitweiser strongly disagreed with the Bush Administration’s foreign policy after 9/11, particularly in regards to the invasion of Iraq. She campaigned hard for John Kerry and now writes for the Huffington Post. Ann Coulter attacked her and the other Jersey Widows in a particularly ugly manner. She has earned her bone fides as a critic of the current administration.
The Obama supporters’ biggest insult, in these pages and others, is that Hillary supporters are Republicans, as if recoiling from disenfranchisement, racial politics, and blatant sexism makes one a Republican. We believe, in fact, that it is the Obama supporters who most closely resemble the far Right in their viciousness towards Hillary, and their use of race, sexist stereotypes, and disenfranchisement as electoral tools.
I take the bait: perhaps we should be listening to former Republicans, people like Breitweiser. We should do this for no other reason than to understand the thinking of independent voters and fellow Americans.
Obama supporters are delusional if they think that their race-baiting, misogyny, and jerryrigging the nomination will go unnoticed or unpunished. Kristen Breitweiser writes:
Those who are responsible for putting Democrats in the broken place we are in right now with regard to Barack Obama had better own it to the end. Leave those bumper stickers on and wear those campaign pins until the bitter end folks because YOU OWN IT. And people are going to want to know who is to blame.
And as for the superdelegates, just an FYI, we have the list with your names, you will be held accountable on Election Day and beyond, too. This time around, everybody’s going to be looking for accountability.
On her conference on Friday, Hillary specifically apologized to her on-line supporters for the nastiness coming from Obama supporters. I was reminded of the strike staged by Alegre and other DailyKos diarists, and I went back and read Alegre’s post and a few of the comments. This one comment struck me because of the author’s ahistorical understanding of the 1990s and misplaced hatred:
Hillary Clinton…typifies a wing of the Democratic party that is anathema, a wing that is responsible for the party’s downfall, and complicit with the rise of radical conservatism. The wing that sells out its principles, moves ever towards the middle, which is itself ever moving right, the wing that allowed “liberal” to become a bad word…She scoffs at party-building, and disagrees with the 50-state strategy.
The suggestion that Hillary is responsible for the rise of the Right typifies Clinton Derangement Syndrome (CDS). Anglachel, who has been exploring the Left’s CDS for months, writes:
The Republicans have good reason to hate both the Clintons - Hillary and Bill beat them. Repeatedly. The Democrats have no good reason to hate the Clintons - they beat Republicans repeatedly.
What the hell is up with my party? Disenfranchising voters to throw an election? Declaring vast swaths of party loyalists to be racists? Deriding party stalwarts as “Republican-lite”? Dismissing the economic successes of a previous Democratic administration? Just why are the self-described progressives so frantic to remove Bill Clinton from the company of Democratic presidents?
In addition to Obama’s lack of experience, race-baiting, and unsavory associates, many of us are turned off by him exactly and ironically because his own supporters’ belligerence towards Hillary, as shown above. Kristen Breitweiser succinctly describes the backlash against Obama:
[M]any Clinton supporters are reluctant to vote for Obama if he becomes the nominee. It’s not because they are bitter. It is because they chose Hillary over Obama for two real reasons: experience and definition.
Supporting Breitweiser’s assertions regarding Obama’s many weaknesses, Alegre writes that Hillary is the stronger candidate because of her electoral strength:
At this point, neither Obama nor Hillary can win sufficient pledged delegates to secure the nomination. This means the superdelegates have the power and obligation to decide who will be the best, most electable candidate for our party. Obama and his supporters must recognize that he did not win the major (swing) states and that his victory in states that are highly unlikely to vote Democratic in the fall make Hillary the stronger and therefore our strongest candidate in the general election.
In addition to her electoral strength, Hillary now leads in popular votes.
Obama partisans should listen closely. There are rumblings of mass defections by women, working-class whites, and independent voters. The neo-liberals can call us names, but they must understand that for many of us an Obama nomination would be as illegitimate as Bush “winning” Florida in 2000, and we will not condone the smearing of perhaps the most racially progressive couple our party has produced by voting for a candidate whose tactics go against everything we believe in.
Bud you nailed the trolls. Great piece!
Well done Bud White.
Bud ,Finger is on the pulse ,well done
How many people can work the phones tonight in Oregon?
We need to find a way to pull off a win there.
Susa Poll had him up by 9 today. *drat!*
We don’t need a win in Oregon.
We just need a big win in Kentucky and a small lost in Oregon.
A win will be nice, but don’t set ourselves up for a fall. It’s expectation game.
Agreed. Kentucky is the electorally important state and you can’t win the White House without it.
Check out the Hillary in Kentucky video if you want the see her winning strategy. She outlines it clearly.
Oregon will be whatever it is. The trolls will use it to declare victory but we know better. They pulled the same crap when Obama won NC forgetting the fact Obama himself called Indiana the tie breaker. Hillary won the tie breaker but Obama and this trolls as usual have amnesia now.
I remember how mad I was when George Bush “won” in 2000. That is how I feel about Obama now. Back in 2000 I had no choice but to accept the fact that Bush was going to be our President. Now it is 2008 and I don’t have to sit back and take it. I can vote for John McCain in November!
The party has been hijacked from the voters by Howard Dean insiders.
you have hit it right on the nose.
http://therealistblogs.blogspot.com/2008/05/donna-brazileobjected-to-proposal-to.html
LOL so true and so amazingly bizarre.
It was so frustrating and so heartbreaking to see Al up there giving in and giving up - knowing full well he was so far above and beyond the best thing for our country, and knowing equally and exactly how horrible it would definitely be under Bush.
We all tried so hard to make our case, they wouldn’t listen, they told Al jokes and insulted him wrongfully. It was so obvious to us all along.
Deja vu.
If all else fails and Nov 4th has Hillary as not one of the options I know only one thing for certain, I can not and will not ever pick BO.
The worst thing I have ever read about is that Obama tried to bribe Hillary to get out of the race by offering her 25 Million to pay off her campaign debts. Why isn’t this bribe big news? Obama seems to want everything to come easily to him. He needs to drive everyone out of the race by hook or by crook. If he had a brain in his head he would see that Hillary cannot be bought. Obama has met up with something he is not used to seeing — an honest woman. We love you Hill.
How does it come to pass that Obama has $25 million available to pay off Clinton’s campaign debts? From campaign contributions? Would it be legal to use campaign contributions for that?
That is a big lie and you know it. Obama said ‘we will discuss options and try to make things good, blah blah…’ It is often customary for the winning nominee to eventually pay off the debts of the other candidate as a matter of ‘we are all democrats and help each other’ policy. He did NOT bribe her - you people on this blog are pathetic. I have never seen so much ‘ridiculous’ math - rules changed because its an advantage to Hillary…this is so much bs and you know it. Hillary is honest??? That is the joke of the year - she has been playing her games throughout the campaign. I admire her but the fact is she is not winning this nomination. accept it and stop playing with the numbers and DNC rules - you are all looking pretty sad right now.
Somehow BO has gotten my name and address (probably from the DNC) and is sending me mailers. Today’s was that stupid quote “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.” I mean what an asinine statement.
Anyway - I digress….I write in big bold black marker GO TO HELL and send it back empty in his pre-paid envelope and mark the outside with NObama ‘08 on the front and back (BIG LETTERS FOR THE POST OFFICE WORKERS TO SEE, TOO!)
A small gesture. But damn it feels good anyway!
terrific gesture. i keep getting emails from the dnc, which i answer in a similar manner. haven’t heard from obamaidiot yet.
wish they would send me mail, so i could make them pay for the return postage to tell them what they can do to themselves.
DEMOCRATIC SUPPORTERS COUNT TOO
I can’t believe that I’m reading this. You won’t support Obama (and democratic ideals) because your candidate lost? That’s not even close to a reasonable argument if you care about getting our country on the right track.
I have been invested in losing candidates in the past; I know the deep feeling of disappointment and resentment when your pick gets defeated. I, like you, have felt like not voting for the other democrat in the GE. But in the end my principles are more important than supporting a republican with whom I share none.
I’m sure that if Obama lost, his supporters would feel the same as you and claim that the outcome was the result of racist acts. Al Sharpton et al would be all over the airwaves calling the Democratic Party racist and urging something stupid and self-defeating like voting for John McCain.
Yes, there is racism and sexism in politics and in America. But is NARAL sexist? Are the four female governor’s supporting Obama sexist? Hillary’s female colleagues in the U.S. Senate? Are the tens of millions of women supporting Obama sexist? Will you really insult all these women by claiming that they are so weak that they have been swayed by a sexist press corps? (By the way, your video “proof” of all the sexist journalists who have made sexist comments about Hillary is, despite your focus on MSNBC, predominated by conservative republicans on Fox, supporters of the actually racist and sexist Republican Party that you would have us support in the general election!) On its face your strategy is one of self-loathing and eventually self-destruction.
Sexism didn’t cost Hillary the nomination. Complacency, bad strategy and arrogance are what put the once-prohibitive favorite in second place.
okay, de ja vu. i have read this one before… or is it just me… your argument won’t work anyway because we believe in hillary. obama is phony, empty, and is not ready to lead. he makes a gaffe everyday. he talks to people, but he doesn’t listen to people. he can hide out in his large crowds but he looks and acts awkward in smaller groups. he does not speak to me, while hillary does. she has a fighting spirit, tenacity, perserverance, and integrity that i am looking for in a president. obama’s actions speak louder than his words to me and if he was the true winner at this point he would be closing the deal, but instead hillary is getting stronger and we are getting more inspired to get her the nomination. i would never hire obama. mccain has more experience than he does so for me mccain is number 2 not obama. and i would rather have the devil i know than the devil i don’t know running my country.
you need to back slowly away from this blog. it is insanity. same with “ellen” above. i come here to watch the madness for entertainment, but that’s about it. apparently, i am a troll, an enemy (yes, after trying to get to the heart of why supposedly thinking people would vote for McCain, i was called an enemy here), an Obamabot, an Obambimaniac, whatever. these people have taken the worst of Republican politics, and have internalized it. it is sad, and pathetic. but it’s kind of fun to watch in a strange way. just don’t take it personally.
enjoy!!
She has earned it.
A.M.E.N.
I used all of those arguments in 11 letters I wrote to every Super Delegate here in Arizona. Including the two, Napolitano and Grijavl, who have endorsed BO…suggesting that it’s not to late to switch to HRC or make the commitment to her now.
Any little bit helps!
I won’t vote for Obama in NOV. or in 8 years. I did not feel that way at the beginning of the primary season. My opinion is NOT the result of racism, religous fanatisism, or old age. I have formed my opinion of Sen. Obama because of his obvious racism, sexism, and lack of respect for the average person. He has shown himself to be a phony and a liar. I will NEVER vote for this man. The DNC obviously does not want my vote or they would stop this nonsense and nominate a canidate that can actually win the whitehouse and be an effective leader. If the choice comes down to McCain or Obama, I will vote for McCain. Hillary Clinton is clearly the most qualified to be POTUS. In a FAIR fight she would win the nomination and I believe she has the best chance of beating John McCain in the GE.
I read Alegre’s post & read the original by Kristen.
Great added analysis.
COUNTING THE POPULAR VOTE = DEMOCRACY
If Sen Byrd can come out and endorse Obama when his state handed her a 41 point lead, and my home state of MA, who gave her another primary win but whose two senators and governor have announced support for Obama over the voice of the people, what makes anyone think that the fix is not in for him to receive the nomination? I am not a conspiracy theorist but something is not right here. The voters are being shortchanged in favor of an inexperienced and unqualified candidate with a dubious, or at least questiionable, resume. The MSM has been aboard the bandwagon for weeks in gutting her candidacy and the DNC is not holding back. What gives?
It is SICKENING and it reeks of a backroom fix.
It’s ALL about money. Senator Byrd (a former district leader of the Ku Klux Klan in his youth) received the largest amount of campaign donation from MoveOn ($88,000…three times as much as his other largest donors). MoveOn endorsed Obama because of Pritzker, and her family ties to the Obama campaign.
It’s sickening to watch.
pritzker, queen of subprime mortgages and screwing over regular people. obama’s finance chair, isn’t she?
just more of the his sleazy connections.
It’s Linda Pritzker, Penny Pritzker’s sister (Penny is Obama’s Campaign Finance Chair). Here’s the entry from Wikipedia, on MoveOn.org and Linda’s hefty endorsement…along with George Soros’s financial commitment.
FROM WIKIPEDIA
Linda Pritzker, $4. Million.
George Soros, $1.46 Million.
According to the March 10, 2004, Washington Post, “The Democratic 527 organizations have drawn support from some wealthy liberals determined to defeat Bush. They include financier George Soros who gave $1.46 million to MoveOn.org Voter Fund (in the form of matching funds to recruit additional small donors); Peter B. Lewis, chief executive of the Progressive Corp., who gave $500,000 to MoveOn.org Voter Fund; and Linda Pritzker, of the Hyatt hotel family, and her Sustainable World Corp., who gave $4 million to the joint fundraising committee.”[33]
The San Francisco Foundation Community Initiative Funds, a 501(c)(3) organization affiliated with the San Francisco Foundation, began serving as a fiscal sponsor for MoveOn.org Civic Action in 2000, providing a channel through which individuals can make directed, tax-exempt donations to support its work. In 2001, SFFCIF’s IRS Form 990 (available from GuideStar.org) show that it provided MoveOn.org Civic Action with $17,698 in funding.
Iraq Peace Fund, an effort of the Tides Foundation
Richard & Rhoda Goldman Fund
MoveOn’s spending as an advocacy group is listed at Open Secrets: Advocacy Group Spending (”data is based on records released by the Internal Revenue Service on Monday, October 23, 2006″).
wrong again…read the Pritzker history. quit making up lies that you know nothing about.
Obviously, you can’t handle the truth. The Pritzker clan is very much involved with Obama and MoveOn.
Absolutely.
One thing I noticed early on in Ob’s strategy is to change roles. Whatever he is entirely guilty of he’d claim SHE does that. He transfered his dirty tricks from his column to hers.
How many times did his campaign shout about smoke filled back room deals?
Everything he said about her is to deflect his actual actions. Sick Axelrod strategy.
karen for Clinton — Obama could not get away with that strategy without the aid and comfort of the media. I don’t think I will call them the media anymore — to me they are just The Snoops.
I think of the MSM as the US propoganda counterpart to Pravda.
Pravda (Russian: Правда, “The Truth”) was a leading newspaper of the Soviet Union and an official organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party between 1912 and 1991.
I hope those of you who are great advocates for the truth in this primary season will find a way for all of us to voice our discontent if this does become a reality. This cannot go unanswered–it is a disgrace and we DO have power to make an impact if we can be organized.
PJ -
I totally agree. I’m not a “conspiracist” either, but something just doesn’t seem right about all of this.
BTW: Obama has been a MAJOR COWARD in not debating Clinton in the Lincoln-Douglas style that Hillary first proposed. (He knows she’d beat him and his ego couldn’t take that.)
And NOW the Obama and McCain campaigns are “…broaching the idea of Lincoln-Douglas style debates…” (per Ezra Klein at the L.A. Times). This is Obama at his most dishonorable. It makes me sick.
I had claimed I’d vote for Obama over McCain for several reasons (e.g., SCOTUS nominations). I’m becoming less and less inclined to do so.
Obama is not obligated to debate Hillary in ANY style debate. Do you know anything about political campaigns??? The candidate ahead would gain NOTHING by a debate and has everything to lose. Only the losing candidate pushes for another chance. Hillary, despite what SHE thinks, does not call the shots in this election - get it??
It’s a power struggle within the Democratic Party. The Kennedy/Kerry/Pelosi/Dean (Brazile) faction don’t want another Clinton in the White House. Mon dieu! Two Clintons and only one Kennedy (and the Clintons came out of Arkansas and made it on their own merit, nor inherited wealth). They wouldn’t be beholding to these clowns.
Riverdaughter
riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
covers the $88,000 plus donation from MoveOn.org (George Soros money) that Byrd received for his Senate race two years ago. He finishes it at age 94. She mentions the ten points that Hillary has to clean up Washington. These are not of interest to Byrd (biggest porker in the Senate).
Having one of the Chicago machine in the White House will be a great boon for influence peddlers! Rezko’s second choice (after Gov. Blag) was Obama for president. (Please Patrick Fitzgerald, if Rezko is indicted and he sings and Obama has done anything wrong, please make him sing before the end of August.)
The Tony Rezko Obama told us on TV that his relationship with Tony Rezko was the five hours of work Obama did for Rezko while in a law firm.
(But Obama had a close friendship with Tony Rezko for 17 years, during which time Rezko — we now know, no thanks to Obama — raised more than $250,000 for Obama’s political campaigns and financially helped Obama to be able to afford to buy the mansion the Obamas now live in. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0704230648apr24,1,671186.story and http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4111483
MYTH “Obama never did any political favors for Tony Rezko.”*
Asked if he had intervened on behalf of Rezko or Rezmar with any government entity, Obama replied, “Never. No.”
(But, as Illinois state senator, Barack Obama wrote two letters on Illinois state letterhead to state and city officials supporting Tony
Rezko’s bid for $14 million in state and city funds to construct a building (in spite of the fact Rezko already had a long record of
incompetence in the construction field). Rezko got the $14 million in grant money, which included $855,000 in development FEES for Rezko and his partner, Allison S. Davis, Obama’s former boss. The two letters can be viewed at:
http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/obamaletters2.pdf_20070612_17_11_03_906.imageContent )
yeah i truly am in a weird place wondering why the dnc would want to lose it’s base and the heart of the party the women voters… i just don’t get it. at this point it is almost as if they are daring us to do it if they nominate him. but i am telling you, they will be in shock because we are as resolute as hillary and will not give in… i don’t know about you all, but no pressure, no money can change my mind. i just can’t back a guy who frankly scares me with the following he has amassed who don’t care about the issues and who only care about the charisma and celebrity. i just don’t get it. i am dumbfounded. i mean do they really want to lose a lot of their seats in the house and senate as well? because i am one who is going to vote against the sd’s who chose obama for reasons that make no sense because it shows bad judgment. the long term consequences for them are grave and they don’t even see it.
I very much agree. I really don’t care about the name-calling. Frankly, mature people just don’t engage in that type of behavior. So I chalk it up to the person’s defects.
I also agree with the notion that the Obama supporters who have engaged in dirty tactics own it and understand in no uncertain terms why the mass defection is happening.
I listened to Bill Clinton introduce Hillary in Kentucky. He talked plainly about why people are still turning out in record numbers and ignoring the constant drumming that there’s no point, no reason to care, might as well write your candidate off.
It was an honest and surprisingly direct speech, pointing out that Obama outspent Hillary 3 to 1 in Indiana and lost. 2 to 1 in Texas and lost. 3 to 1 in WVA and got blown out. 3 to 1 in PA and lost.
The message people are sending is pretty simple. They want Hillary as president.
So the Democratic Party can quote the rules all day long, go on TV and trash her, the bloggers can ban anyone who speaks for her, the TV pundits can talk about her as though she died or they wish she’d die….
but real people are voting for her, and they are passionate about this.
If they wish to drum us out because they can’t imagine why we support her, that’s OK. I can sure be drummed out. I’ve never seen a time in my 30 years of being a Democrat where I was insulted because of the candidate I backed in the primary. But there’s obviously a first time for everything.
They can pretend that what went on wasn’t sexism. It’s not REALLY sexism. It’s HILLARY HATRED. There’s a difference, right?
No, there’s not.
I don’t hate Obama. I don’t admire him. I don’t feel motivated by him in any sense. And I mostly don’t trust him. But hate? Nah* Why waste emotional energy on the same ole thing I’ve seen all too often in Washington politics? No surprise there. Just because he’s an AA guy doesn’t mean he can’t just be a typical politician running on the new guy platform of change and hope.
But the other stuff that’s gone on?
That’s very serious. That’s a betrayal of the Democratic Party, and I most definitely take that seriously.
All the super delegates see and hear the same man (Obama) that we do. He is not the “one.” Are our elected officials all pod people now. What are they thinking.
When Kerry or Kennedy say he is a great leader, I just want to barf. The man has done nothing to distinguish himself. He was a part-time State Senator for 7 years, then he became a US Senator for about one year. He immediately started running for the presidency. He has been running for the last three years.
Is there a nuclear weapon pointed at the US and we have been threatened with extinction unless Obama is president? I feel like I am living in a parallel universe to the one I have always known.
I want to save America, and I don’t know how. I don’t even know the questions to ask. I can’t figure out the “one” and how he got here.
Farrakan thinks he is the messiah
come to save the black people. Apparently, the Nation of Islam has have been waiting for him and when he is president, Africa will rise up and the black man will run everything.
Can’t wait for that day.
What is Plan B if Hillary doesn’t get the nomination. I am an American. I cannot vote for Obama even if I tried to for Hillary. I am an American first.
I agree completely. And when I think about all the hours and money I gave to “my” democratic party in my 23 year voting life, I get a little sick to my stomach. I’d love to see a new party emerge out of all of this that represents what democrats used to believe in.
An excellent assessment, Ann in California.
The DNC have been planning this for a long time. Most of the high-ups are elitist and losers themselves. HILLARY is the only one near the center, where elections are won or lost.
“The wing that sells out its principles …”
That’s a laugh. Look at the contempt spewed at white working class voters by the ultra-leftists, the same people who’ve been singing about ‘the working man’ for decades. You can bet the black working class is wise to the ultra-left too, but blacks will use them for now to push Obama as far as he can go — then dump them. The ultra-left can play the race card all they want, blacks aren’t fooled by them.
i have to wonder if these far left elites are just jealous of the repubs and want to be more like them. i guess they felt so left out. look we walk on two legs just like you.(animal farm)
You know when I first read the conspiracy theory that Obama was a Rove plant I dismissed it, but now? Perhaps the Democratic leaders joined with the Repubs in a deal to keep Senator Clinton out at all cost. Perhaps there is a reason the Republicans allowed McCain to run this cycle? Just saying.
Ob is crowning himself, MO gave a backhanded compliment to Clinton, the press has eased its tone toward Hillary bashing a bit, the unity ponies are starting to kiss our old democratic asses and on may 31st the DNC RBC will likely follow suit with some leeway finally towards the AWOL states.
So now Florida and Michigan matter and now Hillary voters matter and now nice words matter and now there will be no room for hate and devision.
After throwing roadblocks on every path and slamming every door and burning every bridge, and shoving everyone who got in the way out of the plan they finally want their f’ing unity pony.
Anybody think Horseass Dean told Ob to make nice to us? Maybe somebody got around to reading all those letters at the DNC and figured out that obama ran the most devisive campaign in the history of the democratic party?
How many of us 17 million Clinton voters want a divorce after cruel and unusual punishment?
Right now I remain estranged from the party, they shaft Clinton,
I imagine that a majority of the 17 million want a divorce from the party. You can count me in.
Great commentary, Bud White.
if he truly were such a unifier, there’d be no need for him to tell anyone to make nice and we wouldn’t despise him so.
hillary or mccain. no other option.
Terrific post, Bud White! You are a great writer with plenty to say. I am glad you will be contributing here often.
Kristen’s most compelling post at Huffington yielded this and I have never forgotten her words. Any Obamanating troll who comes here needs to read her words:
Remember back in 2002. There was a drumbeat for war with Iraq. First it was a link between Iraq and 9/11. Then it was WMD. Then it was Saddam was a bad man and needed to be eliminated. And remember how the vast majority of the country fell for it hook, line, and sinker.
Indeed, more than 75% of our Senate voted for the authorization to go to war — including Senators Daschle, Dodd, Kerry, and Rockefeller I might add — all of whom work as advisors on Barack Obama’s campaign. And yes, so did Senator Hillary Clinton.
So where did you stand back in 2002, 2003 and 2004? Do you remember the fever? The frenzy? The momentum? Do you remember the call to speak with one united voice? That was Senate Majority Leader Daschle’s plea to the American public back in 2002. Yeah, the same Tom Daschle whose advice and judgment Barack Obama seeks out daily on the campaign trail.
I remember it all. And, I know where I stood. I was down in Washington fighting for a 9/11 Commission and I was steadfast against the war in Iraq.
But back in ‘02, for those of us who dared to speak out against President Bush and his war in Iraq, we stood virtually alone. There was no resounding chorus of people calling “bullshit” on Bush’s folly. No, back in 2002 you were called unpatriotic if you dared to question the president; labeled as helping the terrorists if you raised doubt about his divine call to action.
Now forgive me, but I do not recall the help (or the voice) of any Barack Obama from Illinois. Indeed, I cannot recall hearing or feeling the impact of any one speech from the Illinois Senator. Did he attend the rally on the mall in Washington? The marches and protests in NYC? Did he conduct national press interviews? Did he write any editorials? Organize any protest rallies? Mobilize the people? Did he write any petitions? If he did, I never saw any of them.
Yet according to Barack Obama, because he spoke out in 2002 against the war in Iraq, he is better qualified to be president.
And according to Barack Obama, since Hillary Clinton voted to authorize the president to go to war in Iraq, she is unfit to be President.
Thank you Bud. It was so destructive to be hounded from every website by the Obama supporters by cries of “Republican!” when one had the audacity to question a stand or for clarification of position. Having been “removed” from Huffingont Post for the “crime” of being an HRC supporter, actually voting for a Republican no longer looks like such a stretch. I guess I have the Obama supporters to thank. None of my questions were ever answered. I got nothing but curses and screams of “Republican” or “troll.” Make nice? Oh, that’s rich?! I think not. I was looking for answers and I found them. And I won’t be voting for Obama. Not as my first choice. Not as my second choice.
Good post. I tried to say that at one point early on in the campaign, but the Hillary Hatred essentially were always going to scapegoat her about that vote.
Today, Taylor Marsh claims that’s the reason for Byrd’s SD to Obama.
I think that’s absurd, btw. But whatever.
I think that is also an absurd proposition for TM to come up with. He received a huge amount of money from Moveon (is that posted here? sorry, I’ve been reading some amazing stuff tonight and things meld.)– like 88,000 bucks.
I found it very offensive that TM would mention the Iraq vote as the drive behind Byrd. And not very insightful.
I agree. Blaming Hillary’s vote for his SD move?
It wasn’t even logical. If that had been the reason, he would have announced his endorsement early.
I’m sure he’s getting pressured, as you guys point out, by his doners. Obviously, they carry more weight than the voters.
These guys who have been around forever can get by with that in their states. Loads of favors out there to carry him through their ire.
troll free zone — I think the height of hutzpa is Obama offering Hillary 25 Million to drop out of the race.
I was against the war, but understand why HRC voted not to handcuff a president in the wake of 9/11.
She had no way of knowing the guy was a maniac.
Neither did Dodd or any of the other Senate jackasses who should have stayed out of this primary.
Kucinich was the only one….with any “integrity” to vote against the war and vote against funding. So for all of people who have undergone an Obotamy..Snap out of it. The arguments don’t match the facts.
Dennis Kucinich actually did have a very difficult childhood..not a made up pity me myth.
Ronald Reagan was the rise of the conservatism in this country.That was before Clinton. The moral majority was before Clinton Clinton has been the only democrat to win under those conditions. Many of the democrats also piled on with their Republican friends against Bill Clinton. How many millions of dollars of tax payers money wasted on Ken Starr with the ever changing investigation to come up with something…anything…
I never thought it was in the best interest of the tax payers money to figure out Bill Clinton’s personal sex life. Where were his democratic supporters in Congress to stop this phony investigation? All hiding underneath some rock.
Here’s another troubling fact.
When Lieberman was in the thick of his Democratic nomination, whom did Obama run to support?
Was it
a) the anti-War Ned Lamont, or
b) the biggest supporter of the war in either party, Joe Lieberman?
If you guessed a) you guessed WRONG.
Excellent point!!
Obama 44
McCain 45
Clinton 50
McCain 43
ohio general election
obamabots
pls start spining
A typical argument would be they will vote for Obama in GE.
only if they don’t allow repubs to vote.
funny how the obamanuts point to his victories in dem contests and project them forward to the ge, without realizing that his dem victories were predicated on demographic distributions that will differ greatly in a ge. for instance, the sc dem primary had over half aa voters. in a ge, when repubs are added in, it’s be just over a quarter. so he’d need the other quarter from those white working people he hates so much. not likely, since he’s made his disgust for working white people so obvious. and sc is one of the more favorable states for him, demographically. most states are more like 12% aa. so he’d need to pick up 38% elsewhere. won’t be happening. there aren’t enough latte liberals for that. besides which, with more exposure of his many failings, the latte liberals will come to be ashamed of their support for him. they’ll probably just stay home.
of course, obamanuts will point to some red state where he won a caucus and say there are few aa voters and latte liberals there. true enough. there are also very few dems. and no caucuses in the ge. so he’ll lose those states by numbers similar to those he lost to hillary in wv.
I don’t know if someone has already posted about this, but there is a truly vomit-inducing article by Arianna on Huffpo today, complimenting Hillary for being “victorious in defeat”. Arianna says that even tho she has criticized Hillary before (No!), she is now giving her credit for changing the the way women will run for president in the future!?!? Remember how Obama told his supporters to “be nice to Hillary supporters” the other nite? Well, this is Arianna, the world’s foremost Clinton hater, fallling in line. Revolting. Do they really think they can win us over with this kind of tripe?
Arianna and her website are no longer relevant. She personifies the word “whore.”
I won’t go to Huff’n'Puff for any reason…why click on their site and increase their “business”?
agree. the disgusting sites get “business,” and therefore money, from our clicks. i refuse to do it.