Ok, So Tell Us What IS Allowed
By Alegre on May 20, 2008 at 9:56 AM in Barack Obama, Fox News, Health Care, Hillary Clinton, Karl Rove, Kentucky, Tony Rezko, William Ayers
I’ve noticed a pattern here on the blogs of late and it was ratcheted up to deafening levels when people decided that BO’s already won our party’s nomination. Ok maybe a while before that but my point is there’s a definite double standard here on the blogs and there has been for quite some time. Anything goes when it comes to pointing out Hillary’s “shortcomings” or “faults”. Hell they rip into her with half-truths, distortions, lies and some of the most misogynist and hateful shite I’ve ever seen. And that’s coming from other Democrats!
But god(dess) forbid we point out BO’s short-comings or faults, or try to point out that the bridge is out and our party leaders are driving us straight toward the edge of a cliff in pushing Obama on us as our nominee. If we dare question his ability to beat McCain - mention folks like his pastor of 20 years (Rev. Wright), his friend of 17 years (Tony Rezko), or that Ayers fella everyone’s been talking about, we’re tagged as divisive, undermining a guy who’s obviously going to be our nominee (according to his supporters anyway), disloyal to our Party, turncoats, GOP Operatives, Karl Rove mouth-pieces, or worse yet - racists.
I mean I catch hell for pointing out something as simple as the differences between their healthcare reform plans. Or if I ask that most uncomfortable of questions - how does he plan to bring about all that change he’s always talking about?
If we point out the fact that he’s having a hell of a time appealing to the working stiffs out there people jump down our throat. The lunch bucket work-a-day crowd and families just getting by (like mine) are not voting for him. We haven’t and we won’t and if anyone dares point out that inability to attract voters like us, we’re painted as… well you know. You’ve seen the “discussions” in the comments in response to things we’ve posted.
Take for example this latest report out of Kentucky, where Obama’s apparently not even bothering to campaign in the lead-up to tomorrow’s vote. Even with Edwards’ recent endorsement, he’s given up and is blaming the coming shellacking on some emails and rumors. I hate to point out the obvious but if BO claims he can’t win KY because of some emails and rumors, how in the HELL will he beat McCain when the RNC and the 527s really start in on him?
Obama blames Fox News, e-mail for likely loss in Kentucky
LEXINGTON, Ky. — Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, facing a likely defeat in next Tuesday’s primary election, won’t travel to Kentucky before the voting, but said he hopes to have much more time to win over Kentucky voters before the November general election.
He also blamed Fox News for disseminating “rumors” about him and said that that and e-mails filled with misinformation that have been “systematically” dispersed have hurt him in Kentucky.
When we point out that he’s made excuses like this in the past for losses like this, we’re called every name in the book. When we point out that he and his team rarely take responsibility for these losses (ie no loss is ever his fault) rather than acknowledge that maybe he has a problem with those voters and come up with a plan to reach out to folks, we’re called divisive and accused of posting “hit diaries.” When we ask whether it has ever occurred to the Democratic Party leadership, that if rumors and e-mails have hurt his ability to woo voters in Kentucky, what will the situation be when the Republicans REALLY start throwing the bs at him, we’re accused of being turncoats.
Watch the comments guys - the very fact that I’ve pointed out these weaknesses in his game-plan for the general election will elicit cries of foul and unfair. But look around this site - there’ve been plenty of posts here about Hillary like this - only a lot worse.
Ok, I get it. There’s a double standard here and I’ve finally figured out that we’re all playing by two very different sets of rules. So do us all a favor - spell out for us just how we’re supposed to campaign for Hillary, and maybe point out how she’s a much stronger candidate than her opponent when it comes to going up against McCain in the GE without getting trashed or worse yet - stalked and insulted on a personal level.
And please (!!!!) do us the courtesy of respecting our intelligence and this process by refraining from telling us to be nice to BO because he’s obviously going to be our nominee, because that’s simply not the case here guys. Nothing’s set for sure until the delegates vote on the convention floor in August.
We’ve still got a campaign here and we have just as much of a right to promote our candidate and question yours as you do. So can we please dispense with the double standards, let the people vote and see where the dust settles come convention time?
Hillary’s not backing down and neither am I and dammit - I’ll make my case the same way you guys are making yours. It’d be great if we could all do it on an even playing field for a change.
check http://www.lapouchepac.com and read Howard Dean’s rigged erection.
Your link doesn’t work.
Maybe she means premature…electulation…chuckle….
OBAMA AND THE DRAFT! HE WANTS ONE &
DID OBAMA FILE SELECTIVE SERVICE PAPERS?
WE DESERVE TO KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE MAN WHO COULD HAVE HIS HAND ON THE NUCLEAR TRIGGER WHILE HE IS BEING BALLED BY BILL AYERS AND REV. WRIGHT.
Three articles under category of “HOWARD DEAN’S RIGGED ERECTION” there now:
1. “If He’s So Confident, Why The Desperate Behavior? - Dean, Soros buy the Democratic Party” Three long paragraphs with little known info behind John Edwards’ endorsement of the big 0.
2. “Obama’s Advisers Push British Foreign Policy of Wars, Invasions Against Eurasia: Is That His Policy?” A story that might develop re similarities in foreign policy between McCain and big 0bi.
4. “LaRouche Answers Question on Obama’s Character” A fairly representative snippet:
” And you’ve got these people out there voting for Obama, who in many cases are waiting for it to descend upon them. He promises the revolution, he promises the Great Change. Where’s it coming from? If there’s going to be Great Change, you’re going to do something, aren’t you? What’re you going to do!?
“What’re you going to do, Obama?
“You haven’t done anything so far. You take in a lot of money, but what have you done? You haven’t done anything! What’re the problem of life, for people out there? What have you done about these problems? What have you done about the housing crisis? What have you done about the education problem? What have you done health-care problem? You’ve done nothing!
“You’ve talked about everything, like Elmer Gantry, the great swindler. Like the minister who creates more people behind the curtain, than he saves in front. That’s what it is, it’s Elmer Gantry.
“And the problem here is, is not the fact that he does that. That’s bad. The problem is: The people put up with it!…”
http://www.larouchepac.com I think there is much better stuff there than the first two above.
um. eLection?
she’s being persecuted because the democratic primaries are in need of over-haul.
The media should be bashing the DNC, not the candidate.
What is “allowed” is that you worship the Plastic Jesus.
Yes. And we will give them bloody hell anyway!
Hmm, when compiling your list of what is or isn’t allowed, don’t forget to mention how Obama has declared ex cathedra that it’s vorboten to, ahem, “attack” his wife. So that’s not allowed, either. It’s toooo divisive–pardon me, di-viss-ive-to parrot his received and affected pronunciation. DRILL TEAM!!
Also mention that when the pimped remark about Chelsea Clinton happened, he said nothing, and his supporters said Chelsea was fair game. She’s been fair game since she was the age of BO’s oldest daughter. So can we go full all out frontal on his little girl? (Not that I want to, but why was it all right with Chelsea? And it makes me crazy for this not to be acknowledged. It’s not part, it IS the problem!)
but of course Precious had no problem attacking Hillary’s spouse
In honor of Barack Obama’s recent declaration that his wife is off limits — oddly enough, he didn’t seem to mind his wife’s threat against Bill Clinton — I’ve composed the following ditty. Apologies to Paul McCartney:
Michelle, from Hell
You and Daley go together well
Scumbag Michelle
Michelle, from Hell
Vous et Daley êtes très répugnants
très répugnants
I hate you, I hate you, I hate you
And all your whole unclean
Chicago machine [snip]
comment:
How low can you go? This is not only offensive, it is stupid.
# posted by Blogger Democracy Lover : 5:09 AM
reply:
Did I threaten to scratch out the eyes of a former president?
Am I taking a huge payoff from a do-nothing job for a “non profit” hospital that rips off the poor?
Do I pretend to be someone who puts the needs of black people first while living i a mansion provided by a man who made millions from ripping off black tenants?
Your concern is misplaced.
Besides, it wasn’t easy to hit all the points I wanted to hit while creating lyrics that were singable. In both languages, no less!
# posted by Blogger Joseph : 5:36 AM
Alegre -
Good points, all. Thanks.
I think if you make racist statements, then you can be called a racist. If you don’t then you can’t be.
I think if you use Republican talking points, praise the Republican candidate over a Democratic one, and run to known mouthpieces for the RW (and favorably quote Rove), then the case can be made that you are, purposely or not, doing the work of the GOP.
I appreciate the better understanding of Barack Obama and his connections to his community. And this prolonged election has been good for that. I think reverand Wright’s controversial statements were not very controversial, but instead played toward a mindset of racial fear and are the Republican play book for the general election. They will paint Michelle Obama unpatriotic. They will make Obama look dirty. Unfortunately, none of this is very compelling to those of us who desire a change of course. We see it for what it is… People with no real ideas, who have to distract us from the real issues so they can continue to steal, kill, and pilage the world. Enough is Enough and we don’t want Hillary because she and Bill already had their eight years. If she can can count that as experience, then she already had her chance. Make room for the new and get over the fact that he’s a black man. I don’t care if he was a green alien from Mexico, he’s on point and no one else is.
Stop the fucking racism allegations already.
Well, you and your like-minded friends who make up about 25% of the electorate… have a good day, OK?
Ok Michelle, we will all fall for your useless hubby ummm when hell freezes over!
“he’s on point and no one else is.” The problem is he’s not on point. He merely spouts mindless, recycled slogans and his worshipers continually regurgitate them to us.
His only argument is that he quietly spoke out against the war (one time!) in a district that was overwhelming opposed to invading Iraq. What an act of political courage.
Enough is Enough and we don’t want Hillary because she and Bill already had their eight years
Well we had 4 years of the Weather Underground 40 years ago, and Enough is Enough! No more communistic values, move to Cuba if you like them so much!
ZZZZZzzzzzz…….anything new ?
This zzzzz was bumped and directed at bobychoice…scuse’
on point how sweetie? universal health care, any one? hellooo? issues? non-starter?
please, bo by choice, you’re killing me. issues, shmissues, you mean lack of issues, right?
“They will paint Michelle Obama unpatriotic.”
Really? Didn’t she do that all by herself? I don’t see how anyone can say what Michelle Obama said and NOT have their patriotism called into question.
michelle is unpatriotic and obama is dirty. so painting him that way will be easy.
and people voting in the general won’t be in caucuses.
and the racist claim is just getting old and boring.
Not to mentioned over used. The racism thing is no longer working … people are tired of it. If this song and dance is this “unifying” in a primary, imagine four years of it? Most people “get” what it would look like and don’t need to buy the picture and the frame …
Once again another vague endorsement of Obama. All the cultish catch-phrases are there. Nothing of substance… change, change, change. Yeah, we get it. Change.
Racism? Hmmm.. I assume that you campaigned and donated to Alan Keyes, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson’s presidential bids. Right? I mean.. you did, right? Cuz if you didn’t, then you’re a total racist. How DARE you NOT donate and support Alan Keyes!! That makes you a racist, by the Obamabot logic.
What change would that be? I mean, the guy is up to his ass in corporate cash, energy company lobbyists, shadowy millaires, lobbyist bundlers, and republican strategists.
Tom Daschle one of his daily advisors is telling us all to fall in line with Obama. yeah.. Daschle, the lobbyist with the lobbyist wife. And then there is Axelrod, who worked for Exelon. Of course we have Kerry and Kennedy, dinosaurs of the Party in there.
Change? “real issues?” Sorry but your guy doesn’t seem to have a grasp of the REAL issues. He cannot even seem to talk without a teleprompter and a sound engineer and lighting designers, and make any sense. Peddle your cult elsewhere.
You are right on Catriley. Obama stands for nothing but vague promises of NOTHING. His stand on the important issues are weak compared to all the other democrats who started out in the primary. He stands for nothing but himself and the entitlement of his supporters. The trashing of a successful democratic administration and the accusations of racism are unforgivable in my estimation. His dopey supporters offer no reason to support him beyond some mindless drivel about hope and change, unfortunately he has no track record to base his hope and change upon. I am sick of this primary and the way Hillary has been treated. For those reasons the Green Party is getting my money and support this election cycle.
Okay, this gets to the heart of the question in Alegre’s post. You talk about change and how Obama is “on point”, but you’re not telling us what that change is or how it’s going to come about.
Also, your comment shows contempt (even anger) against the Clintons. Is that what this is really all about? Get the Clintons out of the Democratic party at all cost—even if it means losing the White House in November. Does it really even matter to you who’s running against Hillary?
Think about what you’re saying. If America is really as racist as you think it is, then John McCain is an automatic win. End of story. If America isn’t as racist as you think it is, then you’re just ngering a lot of people by calling them racists when they’re not, and John McCain is an automatic win. End of story.
Are you AA? I am. And it’s very common to hear rhetoric like that in the black community. The problem is that a mainstream politician with designs on the WH has no business being SO CLOSELY associated with that mindset. As an ‘AA’, Obama certainly is supposed to understand it, maybe even defend it because of how blacks still feel the effects of racism, BUT NOT BE PART of an institution that espouses this type of ideology. Someone wanting to be president must identify with ALL of the people because the POTUS represents ALL of the people in this country. If he wanted to identify so closely with Black Liberation Ideolgy he should have remained a State Senator, where he could literally swap spit with Wright, Farrakhn, Ayers, Dorhn and that ilk. A smart, saavy politician would understand this. Isn’t that why he’s been running as a ‘transcendent’ candidate? Or at least trying to.
I find your remarks dissmissive of a legitimate response, the same I would feel if Clinton’s pastor suddenly had a tape calling AAs inferior, and other kind of racist crap. Look at the response by AAs over Hillary’s LBJ remarks. Historically accurate and even MLK is on record as having said something similar. Yet, the response was OVER THE TOP. To me, this is the real point of this article: the obvious DOUBLE STANDARD.
And people like you with your nose up in the air contemptuously dictating how white people should feel underscored the intent of this blog. If you are white, how much work do you do in the AA community helping the generationally poor and underprivileged? Frankly, if you’re black, same question. So get off your high horse. And tell me, was it the ‘Presidential Fairy’ who told you that Hillary had had her turn when Bill was president and therefore has no right to seek the Presidency?
But thank you for proving our point for us. You have absolutely no intention of addressing the double standard.
I’m not AA. However, I live in the ninth ward of New Orleans and I teach at a very diverse university with a large AA student body. I live in the ninth ward because I like it here and I love the neighborhood. Needless to say, my salary down here is not even 1/2 of what I’m worth other places and my degree is very much in demand other places. I live here because I believe your life is only worth the actions you take.
I am the typical Hillary Clinton supporter–older white woman WITH two young hillary supporting daughters. I’ve been back living here in my home in the ninth ward about 3 weeks after Hurricane Katrina. The government response to Katrina was and continues to be a national disgrace. I will tell you the bottom line to me on this election. Hillary Clinton came down here with Mary Landrieu many many times. She has worked tirelessly on getting bills passed that help us rebuild our lives, the wetlands, and working levees. She’s been in our neighborhood many times. She talked to us, ask us questions, and found out what was needed. Obama came down here and gave a graduation speech to Dillard. That just says it all to me.
Mimi Excellent post. We are voting for someone to represent all of America. We are coming off 8 years of an administration that served one segment of society to be replaced by administration serving a constituency with a grievence toward society. The Presidency is about making the government, the nation, and society work for all people and sometimes compromises have to be make for the good of all.
Oh, fuck off. You know what I “appreciate?” Douchebags who are smart enough to figure out that they’re in the wrong fucking church, in the wrong fucking pew, and have the sense to pick their fat ass up off the seat and get the fuck out of there.
Go pick up your paycheck from TEAM OBAMA. Were you the four hundredth one hired? They sure didn’t hire people who knew how to “read a room,” did they? Do you post the same cut and paste crap EVERYWHERE you poop on the net?
What made you think you could come here and fling your “us” bullshit, and not be told that you are a zitfaced little tool?
GO. AWAY.
Asshole.
Losing sucks, doesn’t it.
Joe Beese,
Again, thank you for proving our point for us. You all have absolutely no intention of addressing the double standard.
Keep on with that strategy.
It’s really workin for ya!
The naivety of such a post… What is ‘new’ is the packaging to fascism, a new charismatic leader who will take away all our problems, as he taxes you to death and gets us into a war in the Sudan, Pakistan, China and Russia.
Get ready for a draft! He needs more troops he has already said it.
Read Tarpley’s Book, Obama the Postmodern Coup: The making of a Manchurian Candidate to get the full scoop on this puppet, a man who is in essence a postmodern fascist. Look at who runs his campaign, Brzezinski and Wall Street.
steal, kill, and pilage the world
Steal;Rezko and BO
Kill; Ayers and BO
pilage; BO and everything he has ever done in the “name” of humanity.
In the words of Lyndon Johnson to Hubert Humphrey (paraphrased), what is allowed is to kiss Obama’s butt in Macy’s window, and to tell him it smells like roses.
Anything less is racism.
DING! DING! DING!
We have a WINNER!!!
Re the LaRouche site, which people bear in mind when reading the article:
link
I wouldn’t be a bit surprised pressure was put on John Edwards to back Obama; the hate towards Edwards by the more fanatical Clinton supporters was very disconcerting to me.
I felt more as afoot; after all, Edwards was pressured to quit the race in January by some of these same forces.
I bet every one of those old goats in the senate, Kennedy & Kerry etal, were making pleading phone calls.
Read thru the LaRouche piece. There is absolute validity to those claims. I mean.. isn’t it always about following the money?
Once I saw who was bankrolling Edwards poverty program, Soros, I knew the fix was in. I wonder why in the hell Edwards would sell his soul to Soros and Obama just to get that poverty project, when he knows in his heart that Obama cannot beat McCain and another republican in the white house renders any of Edwards’ grand schemes moot.
He would have been smarter to use his talents and energies to get Hillary the nomination, take the VP spot, and do his work from the White House.
Money corupts.
Why don’t you go right ahead and try to peddle this offensive bullshit to all the Hillary supporters that ended up donating to the big Edwards Emergency to help keep him in the race and see what they tell you. Only to have him break his promise (AGAIN) a few days later just before Super Tuesday when he shockingly dropped out after he got the bucks. I know several Hillary supporters that were more than angry at getting used on that scam.
Then you can go peddle more bullshit to the Edwards supporters that did come to us Hillary supporters for a shoulder to cry on because they knew we had been kind and understanding all along. I know I comforted many of them and gave them their time and a place to mourn, as I sincerely felt bad along with them.
That feeling was cured for good last Wednesday night when Edwards had the nerve to arrogantly step foot into my state of Michigan for his Endorsement-Stunt-For-My-Email-Addie-In-The-Very-State-He-Fucked-Over-Our-Primary-And-Votes. The only thing afoot was his collusion with “The DNC Fix Was In” good ole boyz club.
Shez,
WOW!!! All I can say is WOW!!!!!!
Obama followers don’t seem to understand that we got nothing personal against Obama the man, we got something personal against Obama the politician.
A politician who associates himself with the likes of Wright, Ayers, and Rezko has no business in the White House. His philosophy is an old tired philosophy that belongs in the dark basement of the industrial age. Give me Hillary’s hippy optimism anytime, but you can keep your angry bitter panther growls to yourself.
And besides, Michelle Obama has tacky fashion sense and will completely destroy the White House decor.
How do you debate issues with someone who thinks the Great Lakes are in Oregon and there are 57 States in the Union, you can’t!
So what is left, check the person being Infomercialed out as the next coming!
What do you find when you do, a person with the abilites of a useless tool, like a hammer to put a screw in the wall!
He won’t even debate issues. So I guess by Obama royal decree there are now 57 states.
Yup, but really want to see his royal hi-ness move the great lakes to Oregon, that will be a treat to see!
Thanks Alegre.
I think what we have been “allowed” is silence or capitulation. Each time there has been forward movement in civil rights it has been from the disenfranchised group standing up and declaring themselves worthy of equality (totally antithetical to Obama creepy tactics). I am afraid we are in a movement where we have to stand up for our civil rights here. And by civil rights, I also mean CIVIL rights. As in, treat us with civility and engage in discourse or go away. (and even then- I personally am so sick of their tired repetitious crap, I don’t want to hear them). No more threats– we don’t care. No more specious, weak knee-ed dribble– we don’t care. No more assertions that Obama-think is the true way– we don’t care. No more pretending that Obama will be the nominee– he isn’t, and we don’t care how loud they say it.
We cant mention anything all we have to do is go out and vote for him.
Even the UN observers are coming to ensure we don’t hurt this black man feelings and cheat him out of being POTUS.
Yes we shouldn’t accuse the wonderful people at No Quarter of racism. That just wouldn’t be fair. They’re just Democrats who support Hillary!
Bob,
Again, thank you for proving our point for us. You all have absolutely no intention of addressing the double standard.
Keep on with that strategy.
It’s really workin for ya!
“the hate towards Edwards by the more fanatical Clinton supporters was very disconcerting to me” Susan Nunes
And yet you continue to come here. It’s yet another sickness the Obamacons are affected with, besides messianic worship–gluttony for punishment and misery. Why must a Barack worshipper dwell on this site, one which is pro-Clinton, when there’s Aravosis, Huffington, Kos, Ed Schultz, the ex-repugs hosting pro-Obama sites and radio programs? Please. Your false concerns and hand wringing are off-putting.
I have said for awhile, the obama people seem to be into SM. So maybe their idea of unity is accompanied with slapping and belittling…who knows?
If that is the case, it would explain their confusion when we aren’t delighted.
Did operation make nice last a week? like their master, Obama Pods have to go back to type when they don’t get what they want instantly . They can’t help themselves
By their behavior we shall know them. They’re bullying, piggish little thugs. They’ve never had any clout or authority on their own, and they believe that, by glomming onto the messiah and forming a giant, zitfaced borg, that they will somehow feel the same “rush” that INDIVIDUAL authority conveys.
Doesn’t work that way. If they really want to know how it feels to be a very small, overworked tool in a big, uncaring, single-focus organization, they should join the military.
But then…THAT would be….WORK!
I’m an Edwards supporter now backing Clinton with everything I have. I never noted real “hate” from Edwards supporters or Clinton supporters in either direction. We had a legion of policy differences but “hate”? Clinton, among other reasons, gets my vote because her policies are closer to Edwards than O’Precious. She has also proved to have the emotional maturity and intelligence to handle the presidency.
To understand what is going on, you have to understand the blog group-think mentality. You have to look at what went down on Amanda Marcotti’s blog during that incident at Duke a couple of years ago to grasp what they are doing.
As far as I can tell, that’s where the practice of active censorship (as opposed to moderating trolls) started.
You have to remember that gen-y are joiners. Not in the real life sense, but they rack up iFriends like a score on a video game.
It creates an environment where the sheer force of the original blog post and the syncopathy that results (after dissenting views are eliminated) makes the bloggers statements look profound. “Wow look at that, a blog post and all 100 comments are in 100 percent agreement! This blogger is really on to something!”
When you add in the gen-y impulse to rack up iFriends, they tailor their writing to fit in with the culture of the blog (and alter their thinking).
Also, web sites like digg encourage self censorship, and the users will ‘block’ users who get big negative digs. They also (this part originated on slashdot) have user moderation thresholds, where the users never even read unpopular viewpoints.
The end result is this… A big unwieldy group of people that 90% probably don’t even know that there are people who don’t like Obama (everyone they meet online is an Obama sycophant) the other 10%, the riot organizers if you will, make use of the user moderation features. They make use of it punitively, but its effect is censorship.
Excellent analysis Greg. I think that the social networking aspect of this is really unexposed. I have a teen and a 20 something daughter, and nieces, and nephews. I have seen all of that firsthand. They exist in a bubble. My daughters are politically savvy because we all discuss it — but I can see from their friends on myspace and facebook that it’s all about following a fad, being “in” with the groupthink. Unfortunately for the DNC, that type of following fades fast.. already Myspace is being left behind for newer sites, and the cycle goes on.
GregA,
This is one of the reasons I still miss Steve Gilliard’s News Blog. During the Duke episode, there were a lot opinions that were allowed that didn’t agree with Steve. I didn’t always agree with Steve and vice versa. But there was always the ability to have a very energetic blog fight, complete with name-calling and cursing. Some people hated it and came once and never came back, but they could never accuse Steve of censorship. The only thing he censored was the female C-word. He hated Hillary but she couldn’t be called that on his site. If it slipped in it was removed as soon as he caught it. I often wonder how he would have been during this Primary race.
To me, it’s the censorship that’s caused a lot of the bad feelings. And I believe it was done to keep any real info about Obama from surfacing. If people had been allowed to have open discussion focusing mainly on policy, there would not be all these bad feelings now.
I commented yesterday on a thread that Obama’s ex-cathedra was issued as an edict to rally the troops. It’s clear that nothing they see on this tape will change their minds. They’ve already started. Hopefully, this was a ploy by Rove to obfuscate a second and more damaging tape or whatever of Obama that will be the game-changer.
But as I said above, they really have no intention of discussing the double standard.
Once again: Good luck with that strategy!
It’s really workin for ya!!!!
She is going to Florida I presume to ratchet up the pressure on the delegate issue. And no whiny trolls can stop her. And no whiny trolls can prevent the rules committee from meeting on May 31. And no whiny trolls can prevent her from taking this all the way to the convention. Trolls, it must be fun feeling powerless knowing Hillary and her supporters outsmarted you.
If you missed this:
Mission Accomplished? Not So Fast
Alegre and Texas Darlin’ are the only 2 Clinton supporters who have not been thrown out of Mydd.
I guess they’re scared to mess with high visibility supporters.
Must be something like that. Alegre is one of my blog heroines for standing up to all the abuse she has.
Both have consistantly well written articles as well…Good Post
they haven’t thrown me out but I don’t post blogs I only rate them and recommend them (or not) and sometimes make comments.
I give a lot of troll ratings.
They are well deserved.
What has happen in my opinion the Clinton supporters have remain nice and presented facts in their reporting of Obama (Obamaians find that unacceptable) . The Obamaites want Armageddon against anyone who’s not baptized in the blood of HOPIUM. You know the kind “Jim Jones Drinkers”. Now Obama he doesn’t want to represent all American only his adoring FANS. He lacks leadership skills, foreign policy skill and economics skills, but thats not important because hes uniter. hes united the rap crowd, with the psychedelic mushrooms crowd , and the I am not racist I voted for the black guy crowd. If you writers have grown from those days and have reach that level of mature conscienceless you don’t appeal to these groups, and you’re not invited to the party and you can’t have any of our HOPIUM.
I don’t see that there is an answer to this question. The Obama people want you to jsut not ask any questions about the qualifications of their beloved candidate. You need to just accept the crap and go on with your little lives. Anything contrary to this is considered racism.
Yeh, one little comment for Obama. Your wife campaigns for you and makes stupid little comments. She is fair game. Wait until the Red side starts up on her.
By the way will soemone alleviate my ignorance and explain to me what POTUS stands for?
President of the United States.
And SCOTUS is the Supreme Court of the United States, and FLOTUS is the First Lady of…, and FDOTUS is, of course, First Dude…
I always thought it meant a potted plant of US citizens.
Interesting Larouche article…
I have to admit I have always read his stuff with my WTF glasses on, but he’s starting to make a lot of sense in his pieces on this election. Tonight should be an interesting night. If Senator Obama decides to declare victory, it will blow up in his face. Our last stand will be the DNC Rules committee on 5/31.
I’ll tell you one thing. If those delegations are not seated, this younger male, latte drinking, white collar, upper middle class, college educated, Boston living, white wine aficionado will be in Denver rooting for my girl Hillary.
If you want some conservative viewpoints on Obama check out Pat B. He has been fair to Hillary and he does represent the outrage against Obama from the right.
This is ridiculous. Obama wants an open, fair discussion of ALL the issues, with only a few minor exceptions:
1. No discussion of Domestic Policy experience. That’s Old Politics.
2. No discussion of Foreign Policy experience. Judgement is what matters.
3. No talking about race, unless you want to accuse McCain and Hillary of being racists.
4. No debates.
5. No talking about solutions. Only Ideas.
6. No talking about Michelle. Just listen to her, attend her rallies, give money, and shut up. She’s Out of Bounds. This is your last warning.
Otherwise, feel free to discuss anything. Hope. Change. Stuff like that. After all, this is America. All fifty-three states of it( fifty-seven minus West Viginia, Kentucky, Michigan and Florida. The freak states.)
What is and is not allowed? Simple. What is allowed is that which the ob finds “acceptable.” That which is “unacceptable to the ob is not allowed.
Notice the gangsteresque threat followed by the edict: unacceptable. See how simple life will be? Worked for GWB. He also deemed anything challenging unacceptable.
Michelle IS an issue and part of the campaign. He used to call her The Closer.
I call her The New Winnie Mandela.
‘Gangstaresque?’ Unacceptable?
He’d never get any street props here in the ‘hood with a word like ‘unacceptable.’
Unless homeboys died from laughing!
LOL LOL!!!!
Uh, “kimmy,” if you would learn to read maybe you’d realize I absolutely DETEST Barack Obama and support Clinton. I don’t “continue” to come here because I have very seldom been here.
But Edwards was forced to back Obama. If he had backed Clinton, you would be praising him for it.
God, how I hate hero worship and fanaticism.
where did you READ that he was FORCED to back Obama?
Prove that to me and I won’t think he is a shallow Hal poof piece.
Eddie has always been a whinny baby which fits PERFECTLY into BO’s campaign.
jmo of course
You are right.I would be praising JE for supporting Clinton. Because it would have taken great courage for him to do so. Edwards was bought off. Who he sold himself to is a separate issue. But JE didn’t realize he was committing political suicide and if he is called upon at all, in the future , it will be to further debase himself….like Richardson etc.
When a Dad rescues a son like Bill Ayers, throws money at him, it means the Dad has given up on the kid, throws money at him to shut him up, make him go away, giving the pest a pacifier.
And the kid knows, Ayers KNEW his Dad didn’t give a shit about him, just wanted to shut him up, throwing money at each fire Ayers created, whether it was blowing up the Pentagon, or “nurturing” Obama, for the revolution, in the banana republic that is Bill Ayers head, perhaps a place named Billador, not unlike Oakland. And from far and wide it drew the rejected sons of other dysfunctional fathers, creating “Northern California.”
But I digress, sorry.
Most hurt like hell…
A Dad who loves his son invests in him, spends time with him, mentors him.
It seems to be one thing the Bush’s and the Ayers and the Obama’s had/have in common, fathers who thought the sons weren’t worth the time…
What’s allowed is that you must not ask what Obama has done, where is his record of accomplishments, what qualifies him. The allowed responses to such questions will be personal attacks meant to try to one-up you into believing you don’t know what’s going on, and only the informed elite do, sweetie.
Bollocks. We are supporting Hillary, a candidate who has considerable achievements, a demonstrable record, speaks to O’Reilly (and the Reds) like full-on presidential material she is.
They’ve got a guy who would be fabulous at giving inspirational Sunday morning sermons in an Evangelical church. That’s his calling - he should follow it.
However, giving inspiring speeches and leading the free world are two entirely different missions, and should not be confused in any way. Gen Y’ers would do well to study a little history, take a good look at current affairs instead of Brittany’s latest troubles, and not assume that condescension and snideness are the tools of wit and argument.
We need to game-change on them, and insist they come up with solid arguments, or be laughed off every blog with thinking people as a regular audience.
The unity pony ain’t looking too appealing when all there is to see is big a**.