The “Hurricane” at the Committee Hearing
By NoQuarter on May 31, 2008 at 3:56 PM in DNC, Delegates, Democracy, Democratic National Convention, Democrats, Disenfranchisement, Florida, Lanny Davis, Voter Enfranchisement
I just KNEW that Sen. Nelson is a t-rd. Just knew it. An appeaser. Grrrrrr. BUT MY MAN LANNY DAVIS IS A REAL DUDE WITH B-LLS!
Jake Tapper has the story:
There was a tornado watch outside the Democratic National Committee’s Rules & Bylaws Committee meeting at the Marriot Wardman Park Hotel Saturday afternoon. And there was a brewing storm inside the hotel as well.
A group of public officials — allies of both Sens. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, and Barack Obama — walked out of the hearing room to discuss their willingness to come together on a plan to seat all their delegates, each voting at half-delegate status, but representatives of the Clinton campaign from outside Florida interrupted their press conference to dispute the idea that the Clinton campaign agreed with the plan.
The "Florida unity" group, which included Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, a Clinton supporter, Rep. Bob Wexler, D-Florida, am Obama supporter, and Florida Democratic National Committee member Jon Ausman of Tallahassee, who filed a challenge to the DNC’s decision to not recognize any of Florida’s delegates.
They seemed to come around the idea that for now the DNC would agree to seat Florida’s entire 211-member delegation at the Democratic National Convention in Denver this August, though all the delegates — pledged and superdelegates — would have their vote count as half a delegate. The move would net Clinton 19 pledged delegates. Participants seemed to agree that the door was open to the eventual Democratic nominee seating them at full strength if he or she so chose.
Clinton campaign surrogate Lanny Davis stood outside the circle and interrupted, raising his voice in protest that the Clinton campaign had agreed to anything less than a 100% seating of the delegates at 100% of their strength.
Nelson noted that he was speaking "on behalf of the voters of Florida," not on behalf of the Clinton campaign.
"They’re misrepresenting our stance," Davis said repeatedly.
Then Arthenia L. Joyner, Clinton’s designated Florida representative, approached the circle.
"The campaign is only for 100%," Joyner said.
Davis and Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, D-Ohio, a fiery supporter of Sen. Clinton’s, exchanged some heated words with Ausman after the Florida DNC member suggested they had no business speaking.
Davis took issue with some from the Florida unity group saying the Obama campaign’s concession was "generous" since Clinton would net 19 delegates.
"That is not generous when they take away 50%," Davis said. "That is spin!"
What’s wrong with netting 19 delegates? "It’s 19 less than the people of Florida voted," Davis said.
This was more than Florida DNC member Ausman could apparently take. "I can say they’re being generous," Ausman said of the Obama campaign, "and I’m the one who filed the petition."
"Are you a paid staff member for Clinton?" Ausman asked Davis.
"Actually I’m just a friend," said Davis.
"Are you a designated representative of the Clinton campaign?" Ausman, who may be a foot taller than Davis, asked.
"I am not," Davis said.
"Why don’t you let the designated representative speak for Clinton and you be silent?" Ausman said, more a statement than a question. "Are you from Florida?"
"Why don’t you go about your business?" Jones asked Ausman.
"As a matter of fact I will not be silent," Davis said, "you’re not going to silence me."
"You had your interview," interjected Jones. "Why don’t you let someone else be interviewed? I am the designated representative for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. My name is Stephanie Tubbs Jones and I represent the great state of Ohio.
"We don’t expect that the Obama campaign will be so ‘generous’ as to ‘give’ us the 19 delegates," Jones continued. "It is in fact more generous and more appropriate to count all the votes as they were cast."
Speaking of astronauts…….. shuttle launch in less than 1 minute!!!
GO NASA!!
ROFLOL !!! Dawnelle.
On the post:
WHOAH!!! What an exchange!!!!
Nelson has been a punk for a while arguing for 1/2.
They are a bunch of sleazy pols playing dirty tricks and paid by Obama&Daley.
Shame on them for treating Obama like a “king” and the voters of FL&MI — we, the people (!)– like trash.
Should send that boob Nelson back into orbit - permanently — we need him as far from planet earth as NASA can take him. Send him to MARS!
What is wrong with Jupiter?
More moons, more rings, much bigger - he could be gone a long, long time
Yes! It is an example of real international cooperation, a U.S. shuttle launching a Japanese lab to an international shuttle. This is far better than Barky’s plans to negotiate with terrorists and tyrants.
After Bush’s blunders, NASA remains one of the very few U.S. programs that still causes the world to respect and admire us. Not surprisingly, Obama wants to cut its funding.
>:( >:( >:(
He doesn’t even support science. Heck, even the fundie/ID types support funding NASA.
SUCCESS!!!
These guys and gals will be spending a half a year on the ISS!! WOW~!
Watched the launch from my front yard.
Wow, indeed!
Kept it in sight beyond the point where the solid fuel boosters separated. Finally lost it about 40 seconds latern. It was just a tiny, tiny spot in the sky.
But early in the launch as it was riding the huge flame of the rocket exhaust, it was absolutely magnificent.
This is my 4th year of watching launches from the yard and it is still simply awe inspiring.
My front yard vantage point is about 40 miles WSW of the cape.
Cool
When I lived in FLA we could see the launches from our roof when I was a kid and we lived in Sarasota!!
I’ve been at the Cape a few times too. We used to be able to get MUCH closer.
We were there when they went to the moon. We have it on reel to reel somewhere! I gag when I see it. I was a gawky pre teen who knew ZILCH about the historic event taking place!!
When the Apollo moon landing was being televised, I woke up our oldest, who was 3 at the time, to watch. I told him to pay attention and remember what he was about to see as it was the most historic event in history.
He is now closing on 42 and he remembers the day he watched Armstrong take that “one small step” on the moon.
I am SOOooo jealous… Talk about the need for speed!!
God Speed!!
From someone who was observing the rally today:
Good.
Clinton won, they shouldn’t back down to Obama’s group of no talent twerp.
Why does FOX keep reporting that some deal has been reached between Obama and Clinton camps over FL, they keep saying this story of the giving of Hillary 19 delegates is that correct?
It’s about seated the full FL delegation with each delegate counting only 1/2 a vote. That would give HRC only a net gain of 19 delegates instead of the net gain of 38 that represent the choice of the people of FL.
“seating”
BTW : officially no deal has been reached and yesterday’s media call by the Clinton campaign was adamant and forceful in asking for full delegation with full vote each. They did that today as well.
Nelson is NOT representing the HRC campaign but Florida.
He is supposed to be a Clinton backer but “barely”.
Nothing’s happened yet. TL’s live blogging.
Because they’re all in a back room trying not to air the dirty laundry while smoking on those big ol’ cigars.
I am absolutely 100% DISGUSTED! My Republican brother called me and asked what the hell was going on. He can’t believe how obvious this all is. Here’s the kicker…
He said “Fuck. This all started with Bush. He set the f*cking precedent. I hate to admit it, but it’s true.” He finally gets it.
He sees that Obama “frontloaded” this primary. His words. He wants to vote for Clinton. So do I.
Shit.
fooj: you have a smart brother !!
Vote for her. Write her in if she does not run as an Independent. Or, vote against the Democratic Party in November. Men behaving badly should not be rewarded.
DONT WRITE HER IN
THEY ARE GIVING UNOPENED WRITE INS TO OBAMA IN THIS TRAVESTY RIGHT NOW
SOME STATES GIVE WRITE INS TO THE PARTY CANDIDATE
VOTE MCCAIN IF HILLARY IS PUSHED OUT
All the write in info is posted here:
http://www.writehillaryin.com/Write_In_Facts_by_State.php
You’re absolute correct.
People, please listen. If you write-in Hillary, it doesn’t hurt Obama, it is just a symbolic gesture. They won’t count them and if they do, it won’t make a difference in stopping Obama from being elected.
If this goes down with Hillary bullied out of the nomination, the best and only way to express our outrage is to vote FOR McCain.
This whole primary process has been gamed before it even started. The only way to outmaneuver the DNC and their dirty scheme meant to usurpr the will of the voters and choose the nominee themselves is to deny Obama the presidency. The way we accomplish that is for as many of the 17 million + Hillary supporters to cast their vote for McCain.
It’s hard to manipuate the voting machine results when the number of votes cast are of this magnitude.
I’ve been witness to how they game the election process and believe me, this is the only way to stop Obama.
She CAN’T run as an Independent, it’s too late in the Calendar. The Texas deadline for ballot petitions just closed, for one. Also, some states have “Sore Loser Ma’am” laws which PROHIBIT the loser in a primary from running in the General Election. It’s just not doable. But I guess now you’ll say that the 51 Ballot Access Laws were “front loaded” against Clinton.
so many GOP voters will cross over for Hillary!! glad your brother is seeing what we are
the dissolution of our entire way of political life
if they violate the 13a seat the uncommitted as uncommitted and GIVE him the uncommitted, the unopened mail ins, and some of HRC votes they will have violated the charter, the Constitution, everything we believe in
History will show them as totaly reprehensible for violating everything we stand for as Democrats to push a weak inexperienced candidate who cannot win the GE over the line and hamstringing and robbing the strongest candidate, and the fiurst viable female in our history..
NO
TAKE IT TO THE FLOOR HILLARY
PLEASE PLEASE
DONT LEAVE US
ALL THE WAY TO DENVER AND THE WHITE HOUSE BABY!!
BOOYAH!!!
HILLYEAH!!!
Here’s another one from the Boy Blunder…
Uh, huh-huh, okay Beavis.
OMG we cannot have this man running the country
OMG OMG
and PS Obama is going to CUT and BURN the NASA budget
those people may NEVER GET BACK IF OBMA IS ELECTED!!!
He just resigned from his church. So much for throwing another one of his friends under the bus for naked opportunism.
Wright’s church is finishing Obama off.
The good pastor’s ‘hood buddies don’t take lightly to his being dissed.
There’s a reason that tape with the priest
kook got released to MSM.
I -almost- feel sorry for Barry. He could have gone places. This is what happens when you go to the wrong side of town to acquire your creds. Lie down with dogs, and all that.
That church is a Loony Bin!
Here is Donna Brazile On “her Momma’s ROOLZ!
http://therealistblogs.blogspot.com/2008/05/donna-brazile-mama-taught-me-to-play-by.html
Here is Donna Brazile On “her Momma’s ROOLZ”!
http://therealistblogs.blogspot.com/2008/05/donna-brazile-mama-taught-me-to-play-by.html
Screw you and yo’ mamma … geez louise — and that tone —
Honestly now: this is a women beset by an incredible amount of PAIN and BITTERNESS and RESENTMENT and DEFENSIVENESS and SADNESS and PENT-UP ANGER.
I’m serious.
She needs a good shrink.
The need for a solid, vigorous boot to the fundament is no respecter of gender or race, ma’am. It’s just better all around if Donna B’s were to be delivered by a nice, patent leather pump (no Manolo’s, no Jimmy Choo) than one of my Tomy Lama’s.
In fact, some election soon, we should have a Reverse Lysistrata. ALL men stay home from the polls, ALL women vote.
Shucks. The airplane, telegraph and automatic transmission have all been invented, so the heavy lifting has been done. You women run the country for a decade or so, while I enjoy catching some Cutthroats and Bonnevilles and having a smoke in my rocker.
OR AN ENEMA~!
yeah well if they VIOLATE ROOL 13A now that is CHEATING per Queen Donna..
so dont even go there Donna
unreal
Larry called and I said, “Larry, I called Senator Nelson a turd.” He said, “That’s okay.”
(I’ve got the giggles really bad.)
HE IS A TOTAL TURD!!!
BACKSTABBER!!
APPEASER!!!!
Giggle away I have them too
it is hysteria over the attempted destruction of the party by these maroons..
they CANNOT make deals with someones dels!! they canot GIVE HRC dels to Uhhbama, they cannot GIVE Uncommitted to him they canot GIVE him UNOPENED Mail Ins that could be for the cat of Shtuey on Taylors board, (we put the cat up as a valid opponent for Uhhbama)
if they VIOLATE our CHARTER and ROOLZZZZ 13a(?) and ignore the SHALL not MAY, SHALL seat the uncommited SHALL SEAT THE UNCOMMITTED AS FRAKKIN UNCOMMITTED
There will be a mass exodus from the party, good luck PAYING FOR THE CONVENTION HALL CABAL, Dont they GET IT YET?
HONOR the PEOPLE
The EXPRESSED WILL OF THE VOTERS IS PARAMOUNT
this is NOT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY if they violate the EXPRESSED WILL OF THE VOTERS and to eve attempt to introduce frakkin exit polls is a disgrace..
Take a look at what telecoms he has taken campaign donations from…
No surprise there.
I was gone for a bit but I guess I missed something? I thought Bill N did a FINE job defending Fla voters from the get go.
Did something happen AFTER he left???
I (and others) were cheering!! Dang I can’t leave for 10 minutes (ok more like an hour but still) LOL
why is the dnc now having “private talks” now, no camera’s ? what are they doing, voting…? ha ha ha thinking of them “voting”…….i bet donna brazille is foaming by now ! for all the world to see,implosion of a party….this is history in the making.
it sure is. Now we are behind closed doors
more OPEN FAIR proceedings
UI think this is ususally the stage where Uhhbamas operatives throw manilla folders down and open sealed divorce records to the public to force a candiate to withdraw, snark
what happened to the SUNLIGHT
Senator Nelson obviously wants some of Florida’s delegation to be seated and believes that half a loaf is better than none. That makes sense.
However . . . it is not what his voters want, so in essence, he’s overriding the will of the people in his state, who are demanding full and fair representation (see the group FloridaDemandsRepresentation.org for further details; they are non-partisan).
I am very impressed with Lanny Davis and have been; he is a great man. I am firmly convinced of this; he has guts and backbone and won’t back down from anyone — may the Deity of his choice bless him profoundly for that.
Once again, the rules should go by the boards; we need very much to have every vote counted and have every single last delegate seated. Period.
IOW, Lanny is right, and Bill Nelson is an idiot.
>>> and Bill Nelson is an idiot.
Absolutely! That nitwit is so stupid he thinks COck Robin is a felony. And, as a fellow Florida alum and life-long Democrat, I consider the stpuid cracker a close, personal friend!
(Another chorus of, “The Boys of Old Florida,” if you please…)
I wish Stephanie Tubbs Jones would school Michelle Osama.
Just heard Ron Kirk of Texas, the Obama supporter/black former Mayor of Dallas on CNN. He said that the Superdelegates WILL all come over to the Obama side very soon, because “who would you rather make mad: blacks or women?”..Then he chuckled.
I hope he’s chuckling when we all walk away.
(They have also rigged the Texas State Demo.Convention….i’m from Texas and know most of the instigators.It’s very sad down here)
Did he really say that? Oh please NoQuarter grab a clip of that.
I remember a reporter saying of Ron Kirk when he ran against Rick Perry for TX Gov: “Kirk could take a crowd that was primed and riled up, and whip them into a coma”.
Kirk actually said that? Guess he’s never seen a bunch of furious women, and this time, he’ll see them walking the other way, leaving his candidate with a big hole in his voter constituency.
Let’s hear the black leaders threaten whites a little bit more and we’ll see how close Oblahma gets to the WH.
I agree. It’s like hearing them push her out of the race. Just fueled her supporters.
They keep threatening blood in the streets, people are going to have a snootfull of that crap.
Good grief, these people are stupid.
Seriously, the DNC has totally corrupted the primaries, and I’m worried that they have a plan to corrupt the GE. I don’t mind having McCain, but if they succeed in getting that Black Panther/Black Muslim in the WH, we will really have to get a residence outside the U. S.
God, they are so weak, it’s embarrassing, Obama’s crew.
All this huffing and puffing, and no brains, the lot of them.
Wow.
Just another “bro’s before ho’s” pig for obama.
ron kirk can’t run a political campaign to save his life. what a dufus!
OMG! He DIDN’T say that! Did he? Has he EVER witnessed the wrath of a woman? If not, he’s about to if they hand this nomination to Mr. Hope when they know damn well he CANNOT WIN IN NOVEMBER!
Did Kirk really say that?? OMG! I know he’s black, but first of all it’s really racist. He is alluding to rioting… basically. Sadly I think that the DNC has thought that, because they figure women are not going to take to the streets. I mean.. I can’t believe he actually verbalized what the DNC has been thinking.
Why we’ll just pick up our sewing, pop some cookies in the oven, and get over our little hissy fit in time to get the roast out of the oven. /snark.
Wolf Blitz said the committee had a five and a half hour dinner last night that went to 2:00am and they hadn’t reached an agreement then.
Cindy,
I work in Dallas and that is Ron Kirk. He is a snide. petty man. My job affords me the opportunity to come in contact with alot of Politico’s and he is one arrogant MoFo.
troy,
it’s unbelievable because Ann (Richards) made him who he is today, politically. And this is the thankS he gives her memory! All of these “Ann” guys, like Kirk Watson, Lloyd(Doggett) Glen Maxey……ALL have abandoned everything that Ann fought for…. and they have abandoned women! My husband and I cannot believe it. If Ann were alive, she’d be LIVID…!!!
You got that right. May she rest in Peace.
Is Maxey an Obamaroid?
Yes….Maxey is ProBama….Did you read the houstonchronicle story yesterday (Rick Casey wrote it)
I’ll try to find the link and send it…..
I’m gonna petition to take Maxey’s gay card away.I think their is a Rules committee somewhere for that. I’ll check.
That is as bad as a Log Cabin Repugnaton.
You’re so funny, Troy!
Good luck!
You know, Glen and I worked with Carville 25 years ago….what a trip…..Those were the days. But the problem with Democrats like Glen is that they hate Republicans more than they love what is right and fair.
My husband and I have very few political allies left down here in the Austin area. Except for good ol’ Jim Mattox!!!
Troy,
Go to houstonchronicle.com and find Rick Casey’s article from May 29 called “Obama Mystery at State Meet”.(I’m sorry I don’t know how to do links!)
It’s appalling…..Also a similar story is on BurntOrangeReport.com from yesterday’s post, or maybe Thursday’s.
I’m back! I TOLD you guys the weather was getting bad here!!! Wow! You mean, I haven’t even missed a minute of the testimony!!!? Yes!
I got back a few ago as well Sugar
This is replay (you know)
I don’t know where the heck they’ve gone? Maybe it’s a fist fight in the boys room? lol
I am sick of hearing about the names of the ballot. The idiot Obama took his name off the ballot. To hell with him he loses!
They need to simply move on here. Finish hearing the arguments and then vote.
They appear to be wheeling and dealing.
Rolan Martin just said Obiwan just resigned from his church on cnn
Oma ssined from his church a few minutes ago according to Roland Martin!
OBAMA RESIGNS FOM HIS CHURCH. CNN SAYS.
JINX
Great. Now he is throwing the whole church under the bus. Must be getting crowded under there.
Pander Bear strikes again. Too little, too late, too pathetic.
To late for throwing the whole church under the bus.
Too little TOO later Obama!!!!!
YEA THERE IS NOTHING REMOTELY RESEMBLING “LEADER” ABOUT OBAMA
At this point, if they don’t count the votes of MI and FL. I predict a landslide for McCain. Dean and the rest of those idiots better own it!!
Hey Miss Texas!
Good to see you today! I have also decided to become Independent as soon as they steal it from her. My Mom as well. Not sure about my daughter.
And if it looks like BO won’t LOSE in a huge LANDSLIDE I will add my vote to McKooks to keep BO out! (unless he’s VP then he will just lose when it’s his turn to run) jmo
some hate him so badly they wouldn’t consider him as VP (i’m almost there as well)
Obama is resigning from his church. Is there nothing this man won’t sacrifice for power?
I wonder if he is gonna kick Michelle to the curb after her video comes out?
he SHOULD kick that creature to the BOGS
We can only hope….
Seriously, this is about 19 years too late.
So how will he spin this Dawnelle?
Hey Strawberry
I’m dizzy from all the spinning. hehe!
Yeah Mel, it’s too little too late. He sat his ass in there for 20 years and if we need to go back through all of the tapes to see how long they’ve had this message, then that’s what we’ll do. But, it is too late for that.
An obvious political move. It might hurt him more than it helps him!
Unintended chaos, not a good sign for them –
if they were capable of seeing themselves as they really are, which they aren’t.
TWENTY YEAR membership and now all of a sudden he’s resigning. LOL He is a liar and he’s a fraud. Anything to win!
NEWS: O/T
Seems Obama is resigning from his Church b/c of Pfleger .
C-Span just announced that the committee is meeting “away from the cameras”. Wonder if they’ve got Al Capone back there???
Well, that’s democracy for you. Meet away from the cameras so the people won’t hear what really goes on and will only learn what the lame MSM reports.
I’m so disgusted with this mess.
So much for it being in public…Pass me a cigar k?
We need more smoke in this backroom.
Dean made a comment insinuating that there would be a nominee prior to Denver. Good luck with that Dean.
So much for transparency. These people are idiots. They should never have agreed to have it televised at all if they are going to now pull back.
This is a bad move. It will fuel the speculation that they are doing nothing more than hitting on Hillary.
Obama really is superhuman, tosses whole church, filled with people(voters) under bus. LMAO He will not win.
I wonder how all those folks at Trinity Church feel about Obama now? His own people thrown under the bus for a bunch of rich, white people who Wright and Pfleger railed against. So how is he new and fresh again?
He can resign. The damage is done. And I bet he didn’t have the class to apologize to Hillary.
OFF TOPIC: I just pass the “THE CESSPOOL” aka OMSNBC I learn some NEW(bs) from chris todd aka OMSNBC CARROT TOP, that the Dem. Partty is NObama party NOT the Clinton Party. I ALWAYS thought it was the PEOPLE Party. I “OFFICIALLY” RESIGN!!!!!!!!!!!! How can WE(I mean THEY) choose a MAN(wish I had a BETTE