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Unity my ass. On to Denver!

First. Popular vote total including FL and MI = Clinton +162,553

Next. Watching the Rules and Bylaws Committee (RBC) today, I was strongly reminded of two things. First, when I lived in a condo in San Diego I attended Homeowner’s Association Meetings where, I swear to God, the same bunch of rule-happy, petty tyrants were in charge. Second, this brought back ugly memories of court arguments in 2000 where fancy BS was being used to disenfranchise voters.

Thank God for Harold Ickes, Tina Flournoy, and the others who stood with them today when they tried to stop democracy from being hijacked. Here is Mr. Ickes expressing his outrage at the impending vote to strip 4 of Hillary’s delegates in Michigan and hand them to Barack — even though he wasn’t on the ballot:

I am angry, and I am in complete agreement with the protestors who were shouting in the back of that meeting room — “Den-ver, Den-ver Den-ver!” It turns out that I’m not the only one. Here is my friend speaking his mind about it:

I will vote for Hillary. I will never vote for Obama. Never. Unity my ass.

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Comment by lansing quaker | 2008-05-31 23:23:44

And here is more dissent on this farce.

From a MICHIGAN voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nAaJ5j6nyw

 

Comment by **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **== | 2008-05-31 23:26:26

I will vote for Hillary. I will never vote for Obama. Never. Unity my ass.

I second that!

Denver! Denver! Denver!

Comment by Mawm | 2008-06-01 21:15:06

I was in there shouting Denver. The place was electric. It felt like History was being made. I think Ickes will be written about. All the pretenders to democracy will be shamed.

I got into so many fights with Obama supporters right before they came back with the fix. I think they have to be in such denial about what they are doing.

 
 

Comment by Ellen Tenn | 2008-05-31 23:28:39

IF, IF, IF obama is the nominee, I will see you all in Denver, I love America and will not sit by and let a hateful, vile man like Obama become president
( by the way, I voted for him in Ill when he was running for senator)

Comment by ginaswo | 2008-06-01 13:43:07

RIGHT ON!!!

DENVER
DENVER
DENVER

BOOYAH!!!!!
HILLYEAH!!!!!!

 
 

Comment by kmr1964 | 2008-05-31 23:29:56

Hillary needs to take this all the way. If she does not then I will be voting, campagning and donating to McCain this fall at least he has respect for her and her supporters. UNITY MY ASS. Hell no, Denver here we come.

Comment by so saddened | 2008-05-31 23:45:54

ditto. and that’s the case even if she’s on the ticket with obambi. and even if she tells everyone to support him. doesn’t matter.

NOTHING can make me vote for obambi.

my vote and my money will go to mccain if obambi’s nominated.

i’ve emailed that message to the dnc many times. no replies. they don’t care. they think we’ll come around. they’re full of crap.

when millions of us vote for mccain, they’ll finally believe us.

we can have 4 years of mccain, followed by 8 years of hillary.

hillary or mccain. no other option.

Comment by ginamc | 2008-06-01 09:39:06

EXACTLY, SPOT ON!

Also, I’m a Delegate, and I am so completely disgusted with the STEALING of Hillary’s votes and the STEALING of Uncommitted votes. What kind of crap is this?! This feels worse than with W and Gore in 2000.

 

Comment by Dmitriy | 2008-06-01 12:29:59

I will not vote for Hussein, but if Hillary is on the ticket I cannot imaging voting against her.

 

Comment by Lee in PA | 2008-06-04 08:12:59

I’ve written to the DNC, gotten NO replies :(

 
 
 

Comment by street_parade | 2008-05-31 23:30:54

DENVER is god*$%mn right! Time to tear up another DNC plea for money and send it back to them. It’s their 42 cents postage. They probably can’t afford the rent for the meeting hall….too bad.

What’s the difference between Donna Brazille and Katherine Harris? Nothing.

Comment by so saddened | 2008-05-31 23:48:06

what’s the difference between nancy pelosi and katherine harris? nothing.

Comment by bert | 2008-05-31 23:57:09

And what’s the difference between the 2000 Supreme Court and the DNC? Nothing.

 
 
 

Comment by Catsarepeopletoo | 2008-05-31 23:35:00

Giving BO 4 of Hillary’s delegates and all of the uncommitted delegates violates the rules and the Constitution. It is outrageous. I will vote McCain if BO gets the nom, since i’m in a swing state.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-06-01 08:24:44

Good for You ! make that vote count against Barry the Hijacker….
Obama and is elitist oligarchy have dismantled democracy and the Party built be FDR. I will vote to stop this FASCIST OBAMA….I hate even typing his name….( sigh ) it feels like I’m typing Stalin….

 
 

Comment by Deb Cupples | 2008-05-31 23:36:21

V,

I LOVE your title.

 

Comment by Gary | 2008-05-31 23:37:00

ON TO DENVER. UNITY!!??? Bull!!!!!

 

Comment by yttik | 2008-05-31 23:47:23

“Unity my ass” is about right. His majesty on the Unity Pony thinks women are going to walk behind him and clean up after his horse.

Comment by so saddened | 2008-05-31 23:50:25

his majesty will learn soon enough that he, his horse, and his horse shit are on their own.

he and michelle can ride the unity pony back home. then they can get together with wright, ayers, et al, and have a nice little pity party.

screw them and their “hope” for unity.

hillary or mccain. no other option.

 
 

Comment by champ | 2008-05-31 23:51:51

From a citizen living in australia.
Keep going Hillary.
I want MY AMERICA back.

 

Comment by jwrjr | 2008-06-01 00:19:25

I see that “unity” is still Obamaspeak for “throw Clinton under the bus and vote for me.” Not bloody well likely.

 

Comment by jm | 2008-06-01 00:42:01

Please Help Make This Protest Viral on blogs and via email. Feel free to include article or - - -edit to Protest Details - - -

THE FIX IS IN AT THE DNC!

Democrats across America are aghast, outraged and know that telling someone their vote gets .50% value is less than the slaves even got (which was 3/5). Much of our nation is outraged at this highway robbery which has just unfolded.

Florida voters have been treated as lesser citizens before - by the Republicans. Real Democrats across the country see clearly, when it comes to the current DNC, the Fix is In. In fact, this has been set up long ago. In the meeting today, before this decision was finalized, Florida’s representatives made crystal clear that they had no alternative to the January 29th date. The Republican majority legistlature attached this Primary Election date to the urgent bill for a paper trail voting system (to remedy the 2004 recount debacle ever occurring again.)

The FLA Republican legislature knew well, that attaching this Primary Date Violation, as a rider to essential voting machine replacements, would make it impossible for the Democratic minority of the Legislature to avoid this date. The Democratic Legislature, as they explained in the Democratic Rules Committee Meeting today, attempted to pass a changed, delayed date. The State Republican party outnumbered them and voted this down. All these facts were made clear in the DNC Rules meeting today, May 31. And, for those unaware, the same DNC which cut FLA’s votes in 1/2 today, based on no fault of FLA voters, gave full authorization to 3 other states to have early Primaries, with their blessings. Why not Florida? (And why not Michigan, which has also been stripped of half its votes and had the equivalent of two rural voting districts) lifted from their chosen candidate and handed on a silver platter to Barack Obama?)

The DNC stated today that they offered FLA $880,000 to redo the Primary. All this would support, as FLA representatives explained, was a mail-in ballot, without the budget or means to assure security and validity of ballots. It may also be recalled, that despite having handily won 55% of FLA primary votes, the Hillary Clinton campaign offered to come up with the means to redo the Primary, if the Obama campaign (which is far more funded by special interests) would agree. The Obama campaign, which badly lost the January FLA primary, with only 30% of the vote, refused to support a replacement Primary. Why? Because their poll numbers were still poor in FLA.

The Obama campaign violated standards by being the only candidate’s campaign to advertise in Florida before the January Primary. When asked about these ads, the Obama campaign claimed that the Florida ads were part of a national ad buy and their TV use was overlooked by mistake. Imagine that! They forgot they were running ads for a Primary they have spent months now pretending didn’t even exist. They also ran ads in a neighboring state which included part of FLA in its media zone. When asked, the Obama campaign again said, Whoops, another overlooked mistake. Anyone who knows how to read knows, by now, Obama makes a lot of mistakes. It is normal to expect them to be overlooked and allowed, and whatever you do, do not ask him to explain them.

The DNC, long known to be in the tank for Obama, claimed in today’s contrived “Rules” meeting that they had actually approved advertising in FLA for the primary. If you doubt the Fix is In, replay these facts: !) We told you, FLA, that your primary will not count. 2) Although your Primary doesn’t exist candidates can still place campaign advertisements. 3) So, in your non-existent Primary, FLA, in which Barack Obama spent a considerable sum appealing to FLA voters, but still lost anyway, we will restore 50% your votes, which is not enough to do our ‘golden boy’ any harm at this late May date!

When Michigan attempted to schedule a Primary re-run, progress moved forward, capital was provided - until Obama supporters blocked the passage of the final arrangements beyond the time window of opportunity. Obama’s strategists knew they had sealed FLA’s fate, as well as Michigan’s, long before today. This meeting was merely a formality, a public pronouncement of wheels set in motion long before.

Floridians and Democrats in Michigan can now expect miles of spin by Obama supporters, state wide, who will try to convince you how lucky you are to get back 1/2 of your vote. Should you fall for this soon-to-come PR campaign, just remember, that makes your vote count less than a slave’s did, well over a century ago. Such a deal, you can count for 1/2 vote now- in order to give the same party and candidate who stole the other half of your vote your whole vote in November.

In Michigan Obama’s candidacy was to be included on the ballot. But when his campaign saw that he was 20% behind in the polls there, they changed their mind and withdrew his name from the ballot. It wasn’t that Michigan voters didn’t know he was running. He simply pretended not to be. As many have observed Barack Obama is skilled and practiced at pretending. Recently, for example, he has pretended to have removed his name from the MI ballot because he wanted to play by the rules. Today’s Rules Committee Meeting has exemplified ‘rules’ are now interpreted as “any means to an end.”

This is a DNC that claims it is time to come together and heal. This is a DNC which has had the international news media keep count of all Primary results and their totals everywhere with a ZERO count given for FLA & MI throughout the entire Primary season. This is a DNC in which disproportionate numbers of Super Delegates have cast their powerful votes for Obama, nationwide, in contradiction to the voting will of the people in numerous states where Hillary Clinton won by a large majority. This is a DNC, which now thinks Obama can afford to lose a few delegates, and so has generously given every citizen of FLA 1/2 a vote back and less than 1/2 vote back to MI, 4 months after the people of these states cast 1 whole vote per person.

Real Democrats across our nation know that this is less than 50% too little and far too late! Were all this not insulting and flagrantly dishonest enough, this same DNC, which obviously re-invents its “Rules” as it goes along, has sardonically stated that come August, at the convention, if the chosen Nominee so deems, HE can give FLA & MI back their full votes. After it doesn’t matter at all. After it was counted at ZERO when it did matter. After it was arrogantly reinstated at less than 50% of its value, with the use of creative
new math.

Democrats of FLA & MI need to know that the thousands of protesters, who traveled to D.C. (for what had been billed an Open Rules meeting, then changed on short notice to a Closed Rules meeting) are joined by millions of other Democrats nationwide, in one outcry: A Vote is a Vote is a Vote. Not 1/2 vote. Not a four months too late vote. Not to be superceded by DNC party elite Super Delegate votes. Not a come to Denver, be nice and we may reconsider vote.

We have not, until now, left the Democratic Party. We can now see, however painfully and shockingly, the current Democratic Party has left us. We invite and request FLA voters and MI voters who do not agree with the coronation of a candidate that the majority of voters have proven we do not want - JOIN US in a collective withdrawal of our Democratic Party affiliation. Prove that you know that your vote should count now and fully. Prove that no party elite can take away 50% + of your vote to substitute their own false math.
__________________________

This week, June 2nd - June 6 is the start of a NATIONWIDE PROTEST. Show the rest of America you care about your voting rights as much as any and all real Democrats should do. Go to your local official office (City Hall, Village Hall, etc.) and request that your Democratic Party affiliation be withdrawn and changed to “Independent” status. This is a national movement to show Florida voters count. If you carry a Voters Registration card, you can, instead, just rip it in half and mail it in:

Send this “change of status” notice to the DNC Headquarters at 430 S. Capital SE Washington D.C. 20003

Notify your fellow Floridians and Michigan voters that real Democrats around the country are with you in protest!

Email this COLLECTIVE PROTEST ANNOUNCEMENT to your friends and family from coast to coast.

Show the National Democratic Party that this country is still a democracy, whether they like it or not!
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Want final evidence the Fix is In? Read Barack Obama’s pre-Rules Meeting quote regarding the counting of Florida’s votes. Barack Obama stated he was “willing” to allow Florida’s and Michigan’s delegates and votes to be counted “In a way that doesn’t change the outcome”. Yes, you read that right: “In a way that doesn’t change the outcome”. In other words, as long as they don’t count, go ahead and count them. David Axelrod, his campaign manager repeated this public statement on national television verbatim last week. Isn’t it a strange coincidence that the Rules Committee results perfectly matched their declared expectations?! How can you make millions of votes”not change an outcome”? Well, you just count them at under 50%.

Barack Obama scammed Florida and Michigan until their primary results could no longer hurt him. Now he actually thinks the voters in two large states of our union don’t know the difference. Obama, in his typical entitlement, just figures the pesky old people he disdains and the Cubans down south and the rural and working class voters and the majority of women can’t possibly be bright enough to notice that he has hoodwinked them. Let’s show him how wrong he is! MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD! DECLARE YOUR INDEPENDENCE!

 

Comment by pm317 | 2008-06-01 01:16:55

Obama broke the rules in FL by campaigning but got his share of delegates anyway. He was not on the ballot in MI but got 55 FREE delegates anyway. And on top of it, he STOLE 4 delegates from Hillary. This is democracy in the Democratic party. There is no way in hell I will vote for this guy.

Comment by pm317 | 2008-06-01 01:25:28

Thanks for Ickes video clip — it was good to hear him again.

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-01 10:07:37

It is in the new Affirmative Action Democratic Party …. women in the back of the bus ….

 
 

Comment by Kinky Ogremann | 2008-06-01 06:16:20

Even slaves were given 3/5 of a designation in determining congressional representation, apparently FL and MI voters represent even less as human beings.

And what’s up with stealing Hillary’s delegates? Just because she’s a woman and the only one acting like a decent human being you think you can treat her this way? PIGS! Never Obama.

This accounts to a political mugging.

As if this wasn’t enough, then presuming to know what 600,000 voters wanted, 30 people decided that all votes not cast for Clinton will go to Obama despite the fact that many voted for Edwards, Richardson, Gravel, and even Kucinich.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-06-01 08:30:04

This is all part of branding Hillary as the cheat !…..When that PIG Donna Putin called it cheating I knew they were continuing to do whatever they could to smear Clinton….They are cowards ! Ickes was great….FDR would have been proud of him…He is representative of what the democrats used to be….as is Hillary…

Comment by Mooresformccain | 2008-06-24 15:26:33

This year because of all the deceit and corruption in the DNP, I will be voting for my first ever republican presidential candidate, John McCain.
I will also swith my party affilitation to republican without remorse. Not voting at all is not an option. Voting for BO if Hillary by some miracle should be picked as VP, is not an option.
Voting for a real, experienced, proven, honest, caring, isle crossing candidate like John McCain is the only option.
But none of us enlightened people should worry about current poll reflections, as they only reflect the Bradley effect. Anyone white, who will not vote for Obama is coined a racist, even if they are black themselves. There is no way in hell there could be enoungh fools to actually put Barack Hussein Obama and his lovely white people hating wife in our WHITE HOUSE!
Cant wait to see how smug and arrogant those two are when they have to concede to John McCain in November.

 
 
 

Comment by PaganPower | 2008-06-01 06:29:57

Unfrickinbelievable!

 

Comment by AC-n-NC | 2008-06-01 06:53:42

Stealing delagates from a candidate that people voted for and did nothing wrong and she is still penalized. WOW, welcome to the new Democratic party where they can go in and more delagates around at will. What state will they take some of Hillary’s delagates from next. I am shocked. The party really does not care. On to Denver. If they are going to try to steal this make them stand up and vote in front of the cameras in Denver.

 

Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-01 07:04:06

Harold Ickes is my new hero.

 

Comment by ownaa | 2008-06-01 07:15:21

NOW WHAT? WE NEED ACTIONS.
What is the next step. If we have the proccess for a new party month ago when every thing was clear what is going on, we would have a bargining chip for the meeting, that is why they think we are too cowards to start a new party or defect. They are even talking about f#*&% unity. All I could say now we had our chance we blew it. They know.

Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-06-01 08:34:26

It is important that the information continue to be put out there and that the outrage be expressed….FASCISM CAN ONLY TRIUMPH THROUGH SILENCE….we must stick together….This is bigger than the Parties…

 
 

Comment by silver fox | 2008-06-01 08:03:25

let’s, on monday, flood the dnc with photo copies of our new affiliation with the ind. or repub. party. we might consider doing this now, rather than later , before the convention and before the last primary.

based on the highjacking of democracy yesterday, on tomorrow, monday, i will be heading straight to my townhall and changing my affiliation from dem.

i’ve had it. country/democracy loyalty trumps party loyalty everytime. if Sen Clinton does not win the dem nom, the dnc just elected john mccain.

when the dem leadership, in their kool-aid haze, start singing “let the healing begin”( which secretly means “let them eat cake”), let’s begin forming a real third party for 2012.

if Hillary is not the dem nom, i’ll vote for john mccain as a protest “song”. i have a particularly nice banjo here, and i know how to play it.

no obama ANYWHERE near the white house. ever.

address of dnc: DNC headquarters
430 s. capital, s.e.
washington, dc 20003

 

Comment by PAN230 | 2008-06-01 08:52:03

I heard myself saying those exact words as I sat and watched the motions, discussions and votes yesterday. I do not know what Don Fowler was thinking when he turned his back on Harold Ickes argument. I thought Jim Blanchard made the best case vis a vis the Michigan primary. My worst thought was how much time and energy and money was wasted to end up with an outcome that had been rigged behind closed doors anyway. So much for letting voices be heard - so much for the real rules and charter of the Democratic Party.
There is no unity because one side REFUSES to even listen to voices of the other - and I ain’t talking about the Clinton camp here. Pax Obama is not party unity.

 

Comment by renegade | 2008-06-01 09:30:19

I love to come here and watch you people stand on your heads and whine.

“…and hand Barack four delegates in a State he didn’t even campaign in.”

AMAZING, first the rules committee said Mich. and Fla. votes would NOT count if they moved their primaries up. They did anyway. The DNC told the candidates NOT TO CAMPAIGN in those States. Hillary did anyway and now after breaking That rule wants all those votes. Yes folks just another episode of two wrongs somehow spinning to make it right.
I think the DNC blew it even having a rules meeting now and giving Anyone any votes in those States. They should not have even been able to hold voting in those States just for this reason.
But there is light at the end of the tunnel for you wacko’s. Just stay home in November or vote for McBush, then when Obama loses you can say, “I told you so” and you can run Hillary again in four years. You and the Pubs are all the same anyway. That is why I vote libertarian.
Rave on suckers, you prove my point over and over. You don’t care about America only your own little world in it.

Comment by LBJ's Love Child | 2008-06-01 09:42:11

Rave on suckers, you prove my point over and over. You don’t care about AmeriKKKa only your own little world in it.

-edited for typo-

 

Comment by beebop | 2008-06-01 10:03:51

WE WILL NOT STAY HOME. We will remember in November. And we will vote sane with McCain. And after the last flames of the uber branch of the Democratic party are extinguished, one by one we will vote the traitors out and restore DEMOCRACY to the Democratic party. Four years from now it will be impossible to find the imbeciles who are currently hi-jacking the party any where in its leadership.

 

Comment by Ulahane | 2008-06-01 10:26:30

You seemed a bit confused renegade. Libertarians are against most rules, especially those that restrict liberties, including voting. No Libertarian would support disenfranchising any voters. Perhaps you would feel more at home in the American Nazi Party; they are in favor of disenfranchisement and arbitrary but draconian enforcement of rules.

 
 

Comment by Hershey Highway | 2008-06-01 09:38:39

The Obama faction may feel the have won this battle but I think they just lost the war.
If what the RBC did with MI delegates is outside the rules don’t for a minute think the republicans won’t be all over it.
All they have to do is run an ad with footage from the meeting behind a graphic of the relevant rules re uncommitted votes. Then have the narrator say something like “Would you trust these people in the White House?”

Comment by SueB. | 2008-06-01 10:52:55

Relevant Rule: 13.A
13. FAIR REFLECTION OF PRESIDENTIAL PREFERENCES
A. Delegates shall be allocated in a fashion that fairly reflects the expressed presidential preference or uncommitted status of the primary voters or, if there is no binding primary, the convention and/or caucus participants.

 
 

Comment by Peter | 2008-06-01 09:43:53

At least Dean didn’t have the nerve to lie this morning and scream THERULESTHERULESTHERULES….

George Stephanopoulos : Under What RULE did you give those uncommitted to Obama, and then also take 4 from Clinton and give it to Obama.

Dean: We did what MI asked us to do. (WTF?????)

They violated their own rules. Do they really think the Repubs aren’t going to use this? It’s not like the Repubs have access to anything like talkleft and the rules right?
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/5/28/164638/636

The Repubs would never say….The elitist DNC has been pushing elitist Obama from the beginning (add clip of non-Obot, the elitist DNC went after one of their own (the qualified Clinton), the elitist DNC violated their own 50% rule to favor one elitist candidate (add clip of non-Obot), the DNC violated it’s rules stealing delegates from one candidate to give to another to the elitist ONE. (The Repubs love the word ‘elitist’ and it fits the ONE)

No, they would never do that.

Comment by Hershey Highway | 2008-06-01 10:06:57

If you read down thru the comments to BTD article you find even more things the RNC can use in ads against Dems if Obama is the nominee.

 
 

Comment by Deep Truths | 2008-06-01 12:24:04

Dean and his Obama DNC pals might as well cancel the convention because they are going to feel mighty uncomfortable when August rolls around.

If no indicm ents or serious vetting by the press using a simple Google, AYERS, AUCHI, Iraqi war corruption, Rezko, the ones we know of, then it is our duty to shut it down.

While Obama’s campaign threaten Recreate ‘68, Hillary’s vanguard will promise 1968 multiplied. While Obamabots attention span will drift back to IPODs and Gameboys, the adults will wrestled this thing under control or tear it down. We’ve got nothing to lose but our right to ‘one person one vote’ and a corrupt political system.

Get rid of the caucus system and get rid the DNC.
The DNC is already hurting because of our express determination not to fund this charade. Obama is not going fund it, thats for sure. Hillary shouldn’t either.

Squeeze the life-blood of money from them, then either show up in Denver or lend money to the cause.

We’re unified alright! Just depends on your definition of UNITY.

 

Comment by Deep Truths | 2008-06-01 12:27:26

Dean and his Obama DNC pals might as well cancel the convention because they are going to feel mighty uncomfortable when August rolls around.

If no indicm ents or serious vetting by the press using a simple Google, AYERS, AUCHI, Iraqi war corruption, Rezko, the ones we know of, then it is our duty to shut it down.

While Obama’s campaign threaten Recreate ‘68, Hillary’s vanguard will promise 1968 multiplied. While Obamabots attention span will drift back to IPODs and Gameboys, the adults will wrestle this thing under control or tear it down. We’ve got nothing to lose but our right to ‘one person one vote’ and a corrupt political system.

Get rid of the caucus system and get rid of the DNC.
The DNC is already hurting because of our express determination not to fund this charade. Obama is not going fund it that’s for sure. Hillary shouldn’t either.

Squeeze the life-blood of money from them, then either show up in Denver or lend money to the cause.

We’re unified alright! Just depends on your definition of UNITY.

 

Comment by cyrex | 2008-06-05 22:23:54

I want to make one point very clear- Clinton supporters do not have the same web presence as Obama supporters. Clinton supporters are older and not as connected as the young Obamabots.

You guys have to organize rallies and protest outside of CNN so that older Clinton voters KNOW THERE IS A MOVEMENT THEY CAN BE A PART OF. They don’t go on the computer so you have to inform them through the media.

You have to protest at Obama rallies, you have to protest anytime there is a television news camera around. You need to be creative to keep yourself in the media eye.

Get out there and make a nuisance into a national movement which will stand up for substance over style.

 

Comment by rcenter | 2008-06-07 11:03:53

I’m a white woman who believes in everything Clinton stands for. I agree the media has been unfair to her campaign, and I can’t understand why certain people dislike her so strongly. It would sadden me deeply if this election does anything to lessen womens’ opportunities in public office. What I can’t understand is the level of anger and bitterness that has grown up among Clinton supporters. How can there be such extreme Obama hatred that folks would rather vote for McCain??? McCain’s policies support further solidification of the corporatocracy, widening of the economic gap, further erosion of social freedoms, and continual diversion of domestic resources abroad in Iraq, Iran,… Obama makes a great skapegoat, but in four years what matters more to me is having a leader who will appoint a progressive, experienced cabinet and for all his inexperience I think Obama will come through for our base — certainly better than McCain ever could.

 

Comment by babbette | 2008-06-07 15:59:18

Please tell me what she can do in denver….no one will educate me on what can really happen to turn this around…..

 

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매월 필요하지도않고 사용하지도않을 무선인터넷, 부가서비스, 컨텐츠 명목으로 고객님들의 주머니가 새나가고있습니다.

저희는 고객님들께 알뜰한 휴대폰사용을 제공해 드리고자 불필요한

무선인터넷 등을 없애고, 실질적인 서비스만을 제공함으로써 기본료의 거품을 확~ 빼버렸습니다.

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▣ 휴대폰 요금을 줄이고자 하는 모든사용자

▣ 신용불량자, 통신요금 연체자도 가입이 가능합니다.

▣ 외국인, 관광객, 바이어 등 단기간 사용자에게 적합합니다.

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고객을 위한 합리적인 요금제 암바
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글을올려 죄송합니다.
필요치 않으시면 삭제부탁드립니다.. (3312)

 

Comment by 이상 | 2008-07-05 01:26:06

획기적인 기본료 월4,500원 최저요금제!!

치솟아만가는 물가, 힘든경제난속에서 휴대폰요금때문에 속썩으신 기억없으신가요?

거품투성이인 휴대폰요금제 불만많으셨죠?

저희 선불폰전문 암바(Amba.co.kr)로 오시면 휴대폰요금 걱정끝입니다.

어떻게 한달기본료가 5천원도 안돼나? 내가써왔던 휴대폰기본료는 2만원정도 하던데.. 혹시 사기이거나 통화품질이 떨어지지않을까..?

이런걱정은 하지마십시요.

LG텔레콤의 회선을 사용하는 서비스이기때문에 믿을 수 있습니다. 기존에 사용하시던 휴대폰 통화품질과 동일합니다.

기존에 사용하시던 타사 요금제는 고객입장에서 생각하지않은 회사위주의 요금제입니다.

매월 필요하지도않고 사용하지도않을 무선인터넷, 부가서비스, 컨텐츠 명목으로 고객님들의 주머니가 새나가고있습니다.

저희는 고객님들께 알뜰한 휴대폰사용을 제공해 드리고자 불필요한

무선인터넷 등을 없애고, 실질적인 서비스만을 제공함으로써 기본료의 거품을 확~ 빼버렸습니다.

획기적인 기본료 월4,500원 최저요금제!!

Amba.co.kr

▣ 이런분들께 추천합니다.

▣ 휴대폰 요금을 줄이고자 하는 모든사용자

▣ 신용불량자, 통신요금 연체자도 가입이 가능합니다.

▣ 외국인, 관광객, 바이어 등 단기간 사용자에게 적합합니다.

▣ 미성년자의 휴대폰요금이 걱정되는 부모님의 자녀에게 적합합니다.

▣ 업무상 수신위주로 이용하는 휴대폰 사용자에게 적합합니다.

고객을 위한 합리적인 요금제 암바
Amba.co.kr

글을올려 죄송합니다.
필요치 않으시면 삭제부탁드립니다.. 비번 (3312)

 

Comment by bob j. | 2008-08-25 18:28:26

All you women who would vote for McCain because you did not get youR way are stupid. You want Roe vs Wade over turned vote for McCain? You want the war to continue vote for McCain? You want to vote for a guy who can’t remeber how many houses he has vote for McCain? All you poor women who could not get their way are all probably nagging house wives who must get there way or else. You are typical bitches who are spoiled. I bet you have sex with the lights out. You are so stupid to go against Obama and the only reason you are is because he is black. THAT MAKES YOU RACISTS. THINK ABOUT. YOU ARE STUPID PEOPLE.

 

Comment by Bob H | 2008-08-26 07:12:31

To the individual(bob j)who feels he needs to insult women the way Hillary has already been insulted by Obama I would like to say I am another Bob and I do not approve of his (or Obama’s) message. Obama is a lot of talk with no substance and it would be unfortunate if US voters would have to find that out after he is elected. I have been a Democrat all my voting life and I want to say here that I will not vote for Obama. If Barack Obama really wanted party unity, he would have selected Hillary as running mate.

 

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