What John McCain Said
By NoQuarter on June 4, 2008 at 12:44 PM in Current Affairs
Andy sent this to me. I don’t have a link, but agree that it sums up what a lot of us think about Obama:
“I don’t seek the presidency on the presumption I’m blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save my country in its hour of need,” [John McCain] said. “I seek the office with the humility of a man who cannot forget my country saved me.”
(Just as Hillary has always consistently expressed her undying gratitude to this country for all it has given her … the country which Hillary Clinton has always been proud to call her own.)
Difference between a patiot - McCain
and a
Communist - Obama
In our country, I have found that this cooperation happens not because we agree on everything, but because behind all the labels and false divisions and categories that define us; beyond all the petty bickering and point-scoring in Washington, Americans are a decent, generous, compassionate people, united by common challenges and common hopes. And every so often, there are moments which call on that fundamental goodness to make this country great again.
So it was for that band of patriots who declared in a Philadelphia hall the formation of a more perfect union; and for all those who gave on the fields of Gettysburg and Antietam their last full measure of devotion to save that same union.
So it was for the greatest generation that conquered fear itself, and liberated a continent from tyranny and made this country home to untold opportunity and prosperity.
So it was for the workers who stood out on the picket lines; the women who shattered glass ceilings; the children who braved a Selma bridge for freedom’s cause.
So it has been for every generation that faced down the greatest challenges and the most improbable odds to leave their children a world that’s better, and kinder, and more just.
And so it must be for us.
America, this is our moment. This is our time. Our time to turn the page on the policies of the past. Our time to bring new energy and new ideas to the challenges we face. Our time to offer a new direction for the country we love.
The journey will be difficult. The road will be long. I face this challenge with profound humility, and knowledge of my own limitations. But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people. Because if we are willing to work for it, and fight for it, and believe in it, then I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth. This was the moment—this was the time—when we came together to remake this great nation so that it may always reflect our very best selves and our highest ideals. Thank you, God bless you, and may God bless the United States of America.
Just words
i see that it’s gone from tacit endorsement here of McCain to full-throated endorsement. wow. it remains insane here.
This is a very old joke my father used to tell:
‘What is the difference between a liberal man and a gentleman?’
‘A liberal man treats all ladies as “working girls”, while a gentleman treats all “working girls” as ladies.
I am sorry if this offends anyone - no offense intended. It only points out that a good man, a gentleman will never be sexist, condescending or patronizing if it comes to women, or for that matter, anyone.
I’m not offended. My eyes were opened by the respectful interview Bill O’Reilly gave Hillary Clinton. He argued issue after issue, but treated her as the brilliant adversary she is.
Compare that to Olberman. ( of course we’ve all heard about his little problem).
Why is everything so quiet?
I suspect this is an “information gathering” day…especially after all the server attacks yesterday. I also suspect this is just the beginning for much needed information. Thanks goodness for Larry, Susan, Uppity, Pagan Power, Bud White, Texas Darlin’ and all the people who provide commentary here. Please forgive me if I’ve left anyone out!
Found this at Marc Ambinder’s place
Clinton Supporters Offer To Help McCain
04 Jun 2008 09:39 am
Matt Burns, the spokesman for the GOP convention in St. Paul e-mails to say that the RNC’s convention office in St. Paul has received numerous telephone calls in the last few hours from people who identify themselves as Clinton supporters asking how they can help Sen. McCain.
http://tinyurl.com/3ndrek
If Obama is to have any humility at all, it will have to be forced upon him, like demanding that Hillary be on his ticket. He could learn alot about being gracious by spending time with the Clintons on the campaign trail.
Cindy…..humility is hard-won in life. It comes from experience, yes, but it comes from how one interprets and reacts to experience more.
He’ll never get it.
Yes, ANNINCA, I understand what you’re saying, especially since I’m a 62 yr. old woman. You’re right, but I think Obama is easily influenced. That’s why he appeals to the “herd mentality” like he does.
Heard him say this last night before Hillary’s speech. I thought it was a great way for McCain to make a contrast with the arrogance of Obama. Obama better “saddle up.” It is going to be a bumpy ride.
He also said some gracious things about HRC.
A nice switch from “giving-the-finger” Obamessiah.
Oh how nice coming from the man that laughed as one of his supporters asked him “What can we do to beat the bitch?” in regards to Hillary Clinton.
Give it a rest idiot.
It was just a knee-jerk reponse, and he smiled.
Kinda like when someone tells me a N**ger joke — I KNOW it’s wrong, but I something inside me finds it a little funny.
Oh well, I must be a racist.
John McCain is looking more and more attractive to this diehard Hill supporter. This sounds pretty sincere to me - and it means a lot. Especially after being trashed over and over again over these past months by nasty Obamabots, and watching Hillary get trashed by Obama himself, with the bloviator boyz and girlz enabling him all the way. I think I’m about to join the ranks of the McHill voters, yes indeed.
It IS sincere! That’s the point.
Like when Bill put his office in Harlem after DECADES of helping the AA (and other) communities.
But HE must be a racist too! You know how I know?
OBAMA SAID SO!
McCain said…
Pundits and party elders have declared that Senator Obama will be my opponent.
Talked with my business partners in Canada. They are amazed at the way the democrats nominate a candidate.
“You don’t have one person one vote do you?”
“Just smells bad”
Looks like Amerika is going Marxist.
Not if this bitter moss back can help it!!!!
Go McCain
Two smart things McCain did with his speech. Painted BO as both megalomaniacal “I don’t seek the presidency on the presumption I’m blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save my country in its hour of need,” and de-legitimized him “Pundits and party elders have declared that Senator Obama will be my opponent.”
Very astute speech.
It is too quiet. And what about that “bombshell” today….What is really going on. If the tape exist…it would have been on YouTube by now.
don’t tax both your brain cells at once.
Obama is in trouble, he cannot compete with this rhetoric. Brilliant on McCain’s part, he is actually speaking to us 17-18 million who’s voices have been muted. LOVE to see how Mr. smoke and mirrors handles this. Oh, and a thought: do the all white love machine on MSNBC realize that the guy they love so much hates them? Funny how this works.
I watched John McCain say that in a speech yesterday..it was coming from his heart..I was very impressed with him as were others I was blogging with at the time.
Me, too. I watched his speech and thought that he had a lot of things stuff to say. Afterwards, the pundits were talking about how McCain’s delivery can’t be compared to Obama’s, but the content of McCain’s speech was much better and it was new material whereas Obama just repeated a lot of the same things he’s been saying for months.
Frankly, whenever Obama veers off script he sounds dreadful. It’s only the prepared and rehearsed speeches that sound any good.
57 states, anyone?
He also said some gracious things about HRC.
A nice switch from “giving-the-finger” Obamessiah.
Here is a transcript of McCain’s speech:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10820.html
Obama’s words are fine. His actions are louder.
Here is what I heard him say to his daughters.
“Even if you have popular vote, someone can time things so they strip you down to naked. They will even make sure your win is a loss.”
That’s the message he gave to his daughters.
As far as I’m concerned, McCain is the real deal. Absent Hillary, if the choice is Obama or McCain, there is no question that the best man for the country is JMC.
Besides, he’s hitting a lot of the hot button issues that we care about, like the environment. The best part is so many Republicans are angry at him for doing that.
I thought McCain was kinder and more gracious to Hillary than the “forced down our throat presumptive nominee.” That says volumes about BO.
Wow. This statement goes unchallenged?
So NQ is a straight up Right Wing blog now, huh? How sad.
I can’t believe how out-of-touch this is. I direct you to the Democratic nominee’s speech on race, when he said:
“I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. I was raised with the help of a white grandfather who survived a Depression to serve in Patton’s Army during World War II and a white grandmother who worked on a bomber assembly line at Fort Leavenworth while he was overseas. I’ve gone to some of the best schools in America and lived in one of the world’s poorest nations. I am married to a black American who carries within her the blood of slaves and slaveowners - an inheritance we pass on to our two precious daughters. I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, and for as long as I live, I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.”
“I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.” That’s pretty clear to me.
It takes a lot more than reading your speechwriter from a teleprompter. That is the difference we are talking about — the gap between his speech and his actions (or lack thereof).
The idiot flunked the debates. It’s doubtful if Obama really knows how the capital gains tax works.
That’s just so much pandering it’s sickening.
It doesn’t leave me with any clear feeling.Sounds allot like trinity(what this country has done to me)What it now owes me.
The speech that the racist READ.
snObama can’t put two sentences together on his own.
About race — snObama’s words from his book.
“white trash farm boys” — THAT is a racist statement — and snObama’s speech on race insulted his grandmother and Gerry Ferraro.
Gerry Ferraro’s remark was exactly what snObama said about himself.
So TROLL — GO to hell with your crap.
Your snObama cannot hold a candle to either Senator Clinton or McCain.
snObama belongs in jail.
Gem found on today’s Usenet - typical of the Obama bunch (vicious and arrogant):
Subject: Obama cult kicks out Hillary supporter who gave Obamatron $500 to pay for meds
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132×6266772
LynneSin (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-04-08 09:22 AM
Original message
For those of you who want to ridicule HRC supporters here - read this link…..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7795585&mesg_id=7795585
We are not going to win this election by abandoning HRC supporters - if anything we need them now more than ever. Now I read that a longtime DUer and all-around great guy Deep13 is thinking of leaving DU. He’s an HRC supporter who feels that we are treating the HRC supporters like shit and personally - I can’t blame him.
This primary season is done. Obama is the presumptive nominee. Time for us to mend the wounds and reach out to each other and bring unity back to this party. The enemy is not Hillary Clinton - it’s John McCain and the republican party.
And Deep13 if you read this - please stay. Anyone who treats you like shit or calls you a liar should be alerted upon. You’re too good of a person to be treated like this!
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7795585&mesg_id=7795585
turtlensue (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-04-08 08:39 AM
Original message
Deep 13 appreciation thread: He gave me $500 to buy my meds…
And I don’t want him to go. And I wanted all you people who were mocking him, to understand what a big huge loss for DU this will be if indeed he does leave.
Stay Russell!! You are awesome!!
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I dont think the real enemy has been exposed to America yet. The vetting process is just starting
What are you folks going to do when Obama names Hillary as VP? Ha Ha. Get in line and kiss Obama’s ring. You’ll follow her as VP (and him) just as the people you have criticized as sheeps have done with Obama. You don’t have the guts are the intelligence to do anything else. That’s funny. That’s what I think.
Asshole, Rocks sink and so will Obama!
What will you Obama rocks do when McCain offers Hillary the VP, the real dream ticket?
McCain/Clinton is the real dream ticket, my husband and I have been talking about it for months. Real change and experience in one great package.
I would love to see that ticket! That would rock. I will not vote for any ticket that has Barack Hussein Obama anywhere on it.
Love it!
A McCain / Clinton ticket is as delusional as the possibility of a Kerry / McCain ticket was in 2004. Hillary would never run on a republican ticket and McCain would never ask her if she would agree. Bill and Hillary are democrats and he has a legacy to protect. McCain’s running mate will be a far right type to solidify the base. The repubs are as split as the dems are. They also have Bob Barr running on the Libertarian ticket. While not as much of a spoiler as Ron Paul would be, he could cause as much peeling of voters as Ralph Nader.
Good thing that I don’t care what you think, isn’t it? Ha! Ha! I’ve already said that I won’t vote for Obama if my husband is his VP, but I’ll reiterate. If not Hillary, then McCain.
I don’t believe Obama will pick Hillary as his VP - he can’t handle rejection.
I don’t believe that Obama will pick Hillary as his VP - he can’t handle rejection.
oh lookie there - the Rezko jury verdict is due.
Troll. What does it matter? Your boy is a charlatan and you’re a fool and no amount of your teen spirit is going to change that.
you didnt here karl rov ask Hillary’s pres man if thats what she realy wanted on FOX this morrning did you ?
He has made it abundantly clear that he is not going to ask her to be his VP. ABUNDANTLY …. so you are just raising a non issue. He’s already promised that to about 11 peope at last count …
You uneducated dolt. Sheep is plural… God no wonder Obama is in trouble.
You know how to think?
I couldn’t tell. It doesn’t show.
Fu*k you Obamabot–
Go away.
Obama names Hillary as VP
Vote for McCain.
Hillary needs to get as far away from him as she can.
Let him flounder..go back to the senate if necessary..just get away from him.
put campaign on supension..
Hi Obama Rocks,
This is your way to invite the Hillary supporters to your idol?
This sounds to me more like a declaration of war. A war you want - a war you might just get.
McCain/Clinton 2008!
And you are an idiot.
snObama is going down — he is toxic.
I listened to John McCain
His speech was good he just certainly needs to improve his delivery as no one is listening as he tried to smile more..the smiles were a distraction..He is going to have trouble with Obama just as Hillary did if he tries to go one on one for the speeches..
But, he is right on target when he says this man…Obamie … thinks he was born for his position sought..He is the divine ONE..He has been groomed and schooled for it..
Boy does he know how to deliver a speech and make a person want to feel again..but, you know what his background with characters that I feel are not the American way..well, I have trouble believing he Obamie believes himself..He spouts the words but, as has been shown when he truly could have STOOD UP AND SPOKEN OUT..he lost his voice..
Terri Schiavo..remember this disastor he had a chance like he said ..he knew it was wrong yet he stayed silent..sounds like he is ready to STAND UP FOR US doesn’t it..
The war…his speech in 2000 when nobody knew him and his audience was programmed for him..the key speaker was Jesse Jackson Jr. not Barack Obama..but, he sure took credit for it as soon as it meant something to advance his own situation but, after winning the senate seat I don’t hear any great orator giving speeches every day trying to get us out of Iraq..He just WENT ALONG…
He was appointed to Lugar commission for nuclear weapons..that was given to him for his bragging rights..
So programmed and he had opportunity most of all to
stop the CLINTON BASHING AND RACE BAITING..but, he did nothing until the people who had helped him and many others to take their rightful place in society he lets his campaign people and himself use the term truth much too lightly..he could have SPOKE UP and let America know like he is saying now how tirelessly the Clintons have worked for Civil Rights and Human Rights with Hillary onboard with the healthcare isssue and education..so Mr. Obama you are a chicken and let this hate and discontent just fester when you could have spoke out and stopped the racist and sexist remarks put forward by your campaign people ..
threatening people and businesses..
oh what a group of wonderful people you hang with Mr. Obamie..
Good Luck as I cannot vote for this *empty suit*..all words no action ..Sorry sorry for this country that the person who has worked their whole lives to better peoples lives gets the short stick when it comes to democratic party..just switch delegates..
forcing Hillary out and the phone calls etc..that we Hillary supporters are hearing about.sure doesn’t make me want to join this Team Obama either…
concerned american woman Vet still believing in those things called MIRACLES and believe it is going to take one to dislodge this empty suit from the presidency but, has to be the Mrs..and himself and their own acquaintances and actions over the years that bring them down..
LOOK AT WHO THE HUNG WITH AND YOU WILL KNOW THE PERSON..WELL I DON’T LIKE WHAT I AM SEEING..
that smile was intentional. To show the audacity of the words in an obama SPEACH.
Via Talk Left, the Politico reports:
… Obama is not, one of his senior advisers assured me Tuesday night, going to spend a lot of time in the next few months wooing Clinton supporters whose feelings may be hurting.
I wanted a Unity pony for my hurt feelings.!!!!
Hillary or McCain 08 !!!!!!!!
The unity horse is gone in the wind. There’s no point in Obama even pursuing it.
Ditto for his pursuit of “Clinton Democrats.”
Ditto for his pursuit of “Jewish Dems.”
Ditto for his pursuit of “the Women’s vote.”
Ditto for his pursuit of “Cuban Latinos.”
So, what’s left?
CA Latinos? *
White men?
I think he’s painted himself into quite a large corner.
Actually that corner was looking small to me….
The only unity Barry has is between him and the mirror. Don’t laugh - he really thinks he’s something.
That’s also how he practices his delivery with his court photographer.
there is an old saying ” speak softly, and carry a big stick” ( Ok something like that).
Senator McCain you have this ex-democrat, by your side, you are not afraid to show respect and speaking as you did, made me feel like I was home.
Please think about Hillary as your running mate, with the two of you and the 18, million that voted and supported Hillary, and those that support you we can indeed take back our country and make the next step forward.
Oh please. Hillary is not a Republican and never will be. Her policies are more far-reaching than Obama’s ever thought about being.
She and McCain are friends. That’s all. They respect one another.
But make no mistake, Hillary never was “McCain Lite.”
I will vote for McCain as a “Vote the Rascals Out” message.
But NOT because McCain represents me.
He’ll never represent me. I do respect him.
But let’s not get ourselves confused here.
AnninCa,
Right now in this time we need to work together, there is much wrong not just in our country but in the world, and will take all of us to put it together.
Being a democrat or republican are just terms, that we use, and how do we use them? To tear each other apart, that is one of the biggest reasons we are in this mess, we refuse as apeople to realize that all of us , everyone is at fault here.
Being bitter and angry will take us to the corner of the street, where once again we will refuse to cross this street to solve things. It is time to stop this crap.
Oh, well you’re welcome to label me bitter.
I think Obama is a disaster. He couldn’t get a bill passed about dogcatching, nevermind anything real.
McCain will move us forward by an inch.
So, no…….Obama is a disaster in all respects. I’ll never vote for a disaster.
AnninCa,
No way would I consider you bitter,if that is the impression you got please know I am sorry.
I see the bitterness coming from the obot group a bunch of children who want something with out working for it, that bitterness and anger is what will keep us from solving the things that must be solved.
Listening to McCain, I saw no anger or bitterness, just the willingness to reach out to all of us, accross the party lines, that is what we need, that obama can’t see this because his ego is to big, he is a spoiled child, stamping his foot, teaching his followers that they should have what ever they want with out working for it.
Idiot Obamabot — we are not bitter.
WE are fearful for our country — the very thought of a self serving, self centered person who HATES America — getting anywhere near the reins of power is frightening.
I do NOT want snObama anywhere near the military. My father was career military and the military puts their lives in the hands of the CiC — and snObama must not be allowed that sort of control.
Look at the creeps snObama surrounds himself with - they are the low life, the dirty filthy looters of the Chicago political machine.
If you do not understand the difference between hurt or bitterness AND fear and disgust — you are an idiot.
ANYONE who falls for the snObama is an ignorant ass anyway as well as an idiot.
It is time to stop this crap
Then why are you here?
Take your “bitter” crap and feed on it.
Bwhaaaa… So flip me off, call me a racist, and you say don’t need us to win…but now?
Kiss my Vote, Gbye!
Win without me…
speak softly, and carry a big stick
It’s Theodore Roosevelt.
EXACTLY!
i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Ned5TQoW4
Obama has a long history of Sabotaging democracy for his own personal gain…
We all lose when we allow Obama to continue to steal votes and stop votes from counting.
At the very end of the above CNN investigative report John Kass states the connection between Obama and Mayer Daley.
The only person set to gain in the theft of American’s votes is Daley.
We deserve better.
Change is coming…
18 million american voters demand it…
Our Votes Will Count…
Here’s where I probably part ways with Larry and Susan. I think all this business about his past nefarious methods are just duplicating the Republican “think.”
I don’t really mind that he came up through the Chicago politics methods. Everyone has to come from some place.
However, I think it’s relevant when people aren’t focused enough on being of public service to leave that stuff behind.
His actions in the actual primary season gave me the information. He is not leaving that tactical approach behind.
I think my own confirmation really came yesterday. Timing the SD count so she couldn’t even win South Dakota was really, really a big slap in the face to me.
I got it.
He knows that it’s a slap in the face of her supporters. No question about that now. Her support is hardly “soft.”
And yet, he did that.
I will never vote for Obama or for any of his supporters again because of this one action on his part.
I’m quite serious.
I am going to make SURE that no SD of him in my area ever gets my support.
I may decide to go further, and support financially their opposition. It depends. I won’t backlash without good solid evidence that it’s worth it.
But I’m SURE. None of them will get my vote, ever again.
Obama has insulted me to my very bones. I saw it early on, with the Reagan speech. I didn’t bite like a lot, “Oh, he loves Reagan.”
No, that speech was all about hating the Clintons. I got it.
And I’ve been proven correct. Even this tape?
Look what Michelle is ranting against. Clinton.
I simply think this is insanity talking. Bill Clinton has done fabulous stuff, even as an ex-president.
I can’t even “get” someone who is so insanely jealous or race-oriented that they dismiss the efforts of people who are working for Africa and elsewhere.
It’s just too flipping personal. It’ too out there.
I am at ease today.
I think, as in the past, Hillary and Bill are too advanced.
They are the true progressives. Always has been.
And that’s Ok.
I’d rather they lose because of this than win being the jerks that I see on the side of Obama.
He’s a sick sociopathic, passive agressive, hysteria-hyped kid. PERIOD! He is not to be trusted.
And I HATE the way he lifts his freaking nose in the air and turns it to the right or left as if he’s a
bloodhound testing the air for prey-perfume!
SMELLING SALTS!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3Ned5TQoW4
John Kass is cool.
How much easier does it get now after votes and voters have been suppressed for the first time? What will the causation be the next time? What small, simple “rule” will come before the concept of one person, one vote now that the great divide has been crossed? This was more than vile. It was the beginning of the end of Democracy as we have known it. I will NEVER vote for BO for that reason alone. Nor should any other REAL DEMOCRAT.
I would definitely vote for McCain/Clinton! If it comes down to McCain v. Obama with Hillary on no one’s ticket then I don’t know what I’ll do.
Now that you mention it, I would love a McCain/Clinton ticket. I was actually rooting for Kerry to pick him back in ‘04!
Wouldn’t that be the biggest slap in the face of the Obamistas and the crazy democratic party?
I would party like it’s 1999!! McCain would be a lock for the presidency then. I seriously think the Republican party would welcome this. They know Hillary would save them all!!!!!
p.s
I doubt it will happen though!
McCain/Clinton would work for me.
Ob/Clinton is unthinkable.
Clinton/ABO best choice.
Kerry did want McCain and talked to him; McCain turned him down.
BO is a very dangerous man. He is to be avoided at all cost.
If Hillary takes the VP, it will be sad - but our duty is to save the country from BO.
BO is a very dangerous man.
If Senator McCain wants HRC supporters (should she not get the nomination) all he would need to do is build an ad around the arrogance and immaturity Obama showed when he flipped Hillary off after she creamed him in the debate.
Mr. 99 problems but the bitch is one of them….think again Senator Obama.
McCain has class
Obama is an *#$
What an awesome comment. Dude has class and understands real patriotism. Voting for McCain would not be as difficult as I once thought it was.
I was already gonna vote for him if Hillary didn’t get the nod, but after last night- he’s convinced me even more why I should vote for him!
I remember listening to his comment about Hillary and looking at my wife like “wow, what a great guy..he just got my vote”!!!
We can’t have a sexist person like obama in the white house.
Susan/Larry:
I don’t doubt the tape exists but have you any idea of when or who will release it? The country needs to see firsthand what awaits them if this group succeeds in getting the WH. Not fair if this is just bandied around as “rumor” when the debate can be settled easily enough. Someone owes this to the voter. Any thoughts you can share?
If the tape exist, a hard core Republican has it and it will be aired only when Hillary can’t take over anymore. Karl Rove isn’t dead.
I knew it. The DNC back-up has begun already. The leadership is pressuring delegates to state their preferences. If Obama is the nominee, why all of this pressure? Because they know that he does not have, and will not reach 2210, which is the number of delegates in the *real* world, not some ginned up, post RBC-new math concoction that could become the subject of a congressional investigation.
Just as I suspected, reality is catching up with the media and the pro-Obama thugs in the DNC. Obama is dancing on straw, smoke and dust, trying desperately to explain why he should be the nominee when he doesn’t have enough delegates to hit 2210, the delegates he purchased to reach 2129 are on the fence (pending the tape and other pieces of dirt), and many other delegates are also on the fence, afraid of their own election battles down the road, saddled with a weak, divisive nominee who is virtually guaranteed to lose to McCain.
There is no nominee, people. Nothing has changed. She has the