The New Culture War, part 1
By medusa on June 8, 2008 at 4:08 PM in Barack Obama, Bloggers, Clinton, Current Affairs, Democratic National Convention, Democrats, Disenfranchisement, Hillary Clinton, general election, women
After Hillary suspended her campaign and called on her supporters to back Obama, a dear friend and active supporter of Obama, sent me an article to read and asked me to tell her what I thought about it. My friend, a long time feminist, has contributed to women’s issues for decades and her support of Obama against Hillary has been a point of contention between us. In fact, a few months ago, we decided not to discuss the nomination fight.
The article she sent is written by Michelle Goldberg and published in the New Republic. Goldberg, a young journalist and author, has done interesting research on the previous culture war, that is, the war between the religious right and the secular left.
I know that when Obama supporters send me an article to read, they don’t really care what I think about it. Rather, they are hoping that I will question my own position and be persuaded to see things their way.
Goldberg’s article is interesting to me, but probably not in the way my friend hoped. It is interesting because she represents the new culture war, the war between the so-called “progressives,” that is, the neolibs of the Democratic Party who have lost touch with and disowned the “other” side of the party, what I will call the New Deal Democrats. She writes:
Hillary Clinton has lost the nomination, but some of her most ardent female backers seem unwilling to accept it. A strange narrative has developed, abetted by Clinton and some of the mainstream feminist organizations. In it, the will of the voters was thwarted by chauvinistic party leaders in concert with a servile media, and Obama’s victory represents a repeat of George W. Bush’s in 2000. It’s a story in which Obama becomes every arrogant young man who has ever edged out a more deserving middle-aged woman, and Clinton, hanging on until the bitter end, is not a spoiler but a feminist martyr.
Contrast Hillary losing the nomination in what Goldberg calls “a strange narrative” with Obama receiving the nod from the DNC in what J. Cifre calls a “comical farce.” In this quote, Cifre represents Hillary supporters, my side in this culture war, those of us who are being disowned by the party.
This entire election has been a sham. An almost comical farce in which the Mainstream Media, along with the ideological Left fringes within the Democratic Party have decided AHEAD OF TIME, who should become President of the United States. In this manner, and with full knowledge and intent, they have decided to re-write history, dismiss entire demographics, and besmirch the reputation of countless individuals, for the sake of political power and the ‘almighty dollar’. They have courted and laid with the ugly specter of sexism and anti-White racism, insulting the very same people who have literally fed them over the years, with their vast economic and moral support.
There is much to say about this new culture war which is dividing the Democratic Party. The analysis of this division is just beginning and will make for very interesting reading as it develops and especially sometime after the November election. The blogger Anglachel is in the forefront of this analysis and calls herself a Clinton Democrat. Addressing Obama supporters, she writes:
Something else you will have to accept if you want your candidate to have a prayer of winning in the fall is that we Clinton Democrats are legitimate and loyal members of this party. You sneer at us and make insulting claims about our voting preferences, like we are racists, or are simply voting for another woman, or are just voting name recognition, or that we’re “low information” (hey, drop the euphemisms and just call us dumb hicks, OK? We’ve heard it before…) with the condescending implication that, poor dears, we just don’t know what we’re doing.
Goldberg, Cifre and Anglachel probably have a lot in common: they appear to be well-educated, white, middle-class liberals. But Goldberg’s point of view differs from that of Anglachel and Cifre. As is common with Obama supporters, Goldberg doesn’t try to tell us why we should support her candidate; she doesn’t tell us what good he has done or what good he will do. Instead, Obama’s supporters tell us what we and our candidate have done wrong. To Goldberg, Hillary supporters see themselves as victims.
This conviction, that sexism cost Clinton the nomination, is likely to be one of the more toxic legacies of this primary season. It is leaving her supporters feeling not just disappointed but victimized, many convinced that Obama’s win is illegitimate.
Goldberg defends her candidate’s nomination by demeaning Clinton supporters, a tactic that Hillary’s supporters are tired of. We read it as “kool aid” dementia, the trashing of our candidate in lieu of the ability to describe the platform and policies of Obama. Cifre, on the other hand, represents the concerned forward thinking of the Hillary supporters who worry about Obama’s lack of credentials and inexperience, but more importantly, are dismayed at the corrupting influences in the Democratic Party that won Obama the nomination. Cifre writes:
The line has been drawn in the sand, and we are definitely staring into the heart of darkness that the radical left wing of the Democratic Party has in store for all of those who do not conform. They have already proven that their main objective is to bring a new era of anti-White racism, institutionalized sexism, self inflicted ignorance, reality-show messianic pretensions, and utter submission to corporate interests.
Throughout the primary, Hillary’s supporters were viciously attacked by the Obama campaign with name calling, misogyny and sexism. The Obama blogs relied on Clinton Derangement Syndrome instead of detailing the plans of their candidate. Those of us who supported and stand by Hillary continued to ask question about Obama and his policies, but instead of receiving answers, we were called racists and/or Republicans. Somehow, to inquire about the candidate became tantamount to criticism. Hillary’s supporters love Hillary. But we don’t love Hillary just because she’s a woman or a democrat or any of the other things she is. We love her plan for Universal Health Care, her plan for jobs, her work for the elderly, for children and for veterans and current members of the military. We feel confident about her ability to handle national security issues, to work in foreign affairs and to improve the economy. These and other issues form our support for the candidate.Obama is a candidate of religious fervor. And like other religions, his support is based on an unseen and inarticulate faith. This seems to be one key difference in the new culture wars. The neolibs support Obama because he’s Obama. Hillary’s supporters back Hillary because of what she has done and what she would do. Anglachel puts it best in her address to the supporters of Obama:
[Y]our perception of and attitude towards Hillary Clinton is irrational, bordering on psychopathic. As long as you cling to it as a tenet of your faith, you will drive away people who might otherwise support your candidate. As long as so many of us think that Samantha Powers’ “gaffe” about Hillary being a monster reflects the actual attitude towards her in the Obama campaign, your candidate will lose votes. As long as people think Obama has lied about Hillary, has shown her disrespect, has deliberately piggybacked on the CDS spewed by the MSM, you will lose votes.
Obama’s nomination isn’t settled for many of us, including his militant supporters as we can see from the ongoing defensive and hateful comments they make. Some of Hillary’s supporters may be confused by her speech on Saturday, urging people to back Obama. But most of us aren’t confused. The differences between these two candidates is huge, in spite of what Hillary had to say in her speech. The fact of this new culture war is evidenced by this: Hillary is a politician with a long record of commitment and success. Gary from Confluence captures the political import of this culture war as it stands now:
Make no mistake about it, the only thing the new Democratic Party has in common with the old one is the name. It’s like the creature from the movie Alien. The party was forcibly impregnated by usurpers that grew from the inside out, eventually shedding its host and killing it in the process. Obama and his cronies now control every apparatus in the party from fundraising to determining what the new party platform will be. But we must be very clear: Obama is an illegitimate candidate. He lost to Clinton in the popular vote, thumbed his nose at large swaths of the Dem base (women, Latinos, working people, etc.), and became a poster child for everything that is wrong with affirmative action


Divide and conquer. Has that ever worked positively?
I don’t think so.
The female supporters of Obama must like their progressive submissive role…
NOBAMA.
Obama support partial birth abortion. Although I’m pro-choice, this is too much for me. Female has to take some responsibility in their action. If you want to make a decision, do it before it increase the probability of harm to the baby.
joey, stfu if you don’t know what you’re talking about. No one uses late term pregnancy for changing their minds. These abortions are performed to save the mother or her reproductive ability when there is something horribly inevitably awry…doctors don’t just do them because some irresponsible chick changed her mind.
They were NICKNAMED that to horrify rubes like you.
@ ZEE,
Quit being rude. If you cannot manage a reply without ejaculating insults all over this page then perhaps you should heed your own unsolicited advice and STFU.
How can you possibly state with any certainty that IDX has never been performed on a healthy mother or fetus?
“These abortions are performed to save the mother or her reproductive ability when there is something horribly inevitably awry…”
Oh really?
According to a 1987 study that included specific data about late abortions (i.e. abortions “at 16 or more weeks’ gestation”),women reported that various reasons contributed to their having a late abortion:
71% Woman didn’t recognize she was pregnant or misjudged gestation
48% Woman found it hard to make arrangements for abortion
33% Woman was afraid to tell her partner or parents
24% Woman took time to decide to have an abortion
* 8% Woman waited for her relationship to change
8% Someone pressured woman not to have abortion
6% Something changed after woman became pregnant
6% Woman didn’t know timing is important
5% Woman didn’t know she could get an abortion
2% A fetal problem was diagnosed late in pregnancy
11% Other
http://www.holysmoke.org/fem/fem0543.htm
Research why, to protect women’s rights actually!!! do your research properly.
Divide and Conquer is a strategy that has worked throughout history and had disastorous endings. Facism, Communism, Mussolini, Hitler all strategized in the same fashion to gain power and their loyal followers obeyed the commands.
off-topic:
Great article on McCain
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2008/01/28/john-mccain-prisoner-of-war-a-first-person-account.html?PageNr=1
I just finished reading this JB and it was very compelling…John McCain’s first hand account of his POW experiences in Vietnam, written a few years after he was released.
I don’t know that much about the man and have been a staunch Democrat all my life, but no one can say that he has not served his country, and served her well.
What do you think, guys?
httpCOLON//newwavedemocratsDOTwordpressDOTcom/
I, too, believe that Obama is an illegitimate candidate. Bob Schieffer interviewed Charlie Rangel this morning. Rangel referred to Obama as “the President” several times. I found it utterly amazing that he has been annointed as President after just becoming the openly suspect presumptive nominee. What do they think they have in store for John McCain that will allow them to skip the general election, completely? I don’t think I care too much for Chicago-style politics.
ROFLMAO! Charlie may have a bit of ’splainin’ to do to us New Yorkers soon. But at least he kept his rather large trap shut until Clinton conceded (sort of).
It would have been nice if he opened it to stick up for Bill and Hillary though, I would have.
Sorry, but he should have too. Some things have to go beyond color to humanity, stand up for your friends.
Personally, I consider an endorsement from Rangel to be a bit of a death knell
Amen…no one faults those for sticking up for their friends.
It was Rangel the one that shove Clinton out on Wed.
Read this: it angered me lots.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10886.html
Now that makes things tough. Do you support someone who stood behind Clinton as long as politically feasible, but still bailed before she was done, or support an Obamatron, or go Republican in those races. Hmmmm. We’ve got a bit of thinking to do here.
Go Republican. The black mail by the Obama campaign on black pols is unconscionable. But, they should have given Hillary space and time. That means make them work as much as possible and then, see about Primary opposition when Obama is totally defeated.
Rangel should have stayed out of it…publicly at least. But, she handled it with grace and dignity.
Charlie Rangel wants to bring back the draft, too. A lot of NYers hate him for that. He should be voted out of office.
Agree - is there any chance this year?
Thanks for the heads up about Rangel. Since I missed the morning broadcast I watched it online.
I only heard him refer to bo as President once towards the end. What an empty headed drone. All hail our newly anointed Marxist Leader. Are all these followers ignorant of the facts, not hearsay or smear, but the years of political and social immersion in far left, racist beliefs? Please wake up from this irrational stupor.
Anybody else feel like you just heard the verdict in the OJ trial?
That gaffe by Rangel shows the rather incredible ‘tin ear’ that the Democrats are developing. That level of arrogance has ZERO appeal to voters. I haven’t been there, but I read here that the DNC web site is a picture of Obama…also remarkably arrogant. I know it is not possible for them, but they really should try to at least pretend to have a bit of humility. Its a level of arrogance heretofore only displayed by our current ‘Dear Leader’ Dumbya.
I think the Dems are so dumb that they think Bush’s 28% approval rating means they can run a styrofoam cup and win. They might want to remember the Democratic Congress’s 18% approval rating before they start measuring for drapes.
“I think the Dems are so dumb that they think Bush’s 28% approval rating means they can run a styrofoam cup and win.”
Somebody should remind them 1972.
Nixon was very unpopular. There was an unpopular war. The economy was sinking. Nixon won a landslide.
Democrats never learn.
Obama has put together the McGovern coaliton. He has the votes of the liberal elite and african americans. That is not enough to win the general election. You need working class whites.
arrrgggghhhhh*….I must be in limbo land here with my posting.
That dang troll! She must have screwed me up.
I had hoped that Sen. Hillary Clinton ran as an independent.
There are lots of them making noise. Obama will loose. Our time, Hillary time, women and men who respect and love women and fare game and justice for all loving people time, will come.
Let them talk.
Obama will not get my vote.
Cifre’s article at Savage that said that there is too much ridding on Bill Clinton’s Legacy as President for her to break and run as Indep. I believe he is correct.
http://savagepolitics.com/?cat=1
Unfortunately, I agree. If she cannot pull out the nomination between now and August, I’m afraid we’ll have only 2 options: bad for 4 years and incomprehensibly horrid for the rest of our lives. God save us all.
iawtc. Hillary would risk her husband’s legacy by thumbing her nose at the party.
What legacy? President Clinton’s party called him a racist. I doubt anything Senator Clinton could do would be worse than that.
Just sitting back an observing the blog push, it’s the SOS, and it’s boring, no thanks.
Limp attempts to anger and divide, and no one smart enough on their side to understand why it doesn’t work.
Someone posted yesterday the blogs have no room for discussion, or certain blogs don’t, anyway, and she was right.
The trolls aren’t good at propaganda, mostly because they’re not writers, or thinkers or analysts.
So I’ll wait.
I know this if off topic, but I actually just got a email from Democrats.com asking me to sign a petition
keeping Obama from goint to Wall Street for the first town hall meeting. Is this guy a wimp or what…they are afraid that if he goes, he can’t
handle it…..read this
Rich Republicans, led by billionaire Mike Bloomberg and the corporate executives of ABC/Disney, are demanding to host the first Presidential town hall meeting on Wall Street. This is outrageous for many reasons:
First, Mike Bloomberg is a Republican billionaire who gives to (and raises money for) Republicans.
Second, ABC News hosted the very worst Presidential debate (and there was a lot of competition) on April 16. The first hour was devoted to outrageous and meaningless questions, including one attacking Obama’s patriotism that was written by Sean Hannity! Later, Charlie Gibson attacked Obama for wanting to slightly increase the capital gains tax, which would take a few pennies out of Gibson’s (and Bloomberg’s) cavernous pockets.
Third, ABC hosted the outrageous ‘ Path to 9/11 ,’ a rightwing Big Lie which falsely smeared President Clinton to shift blame away from George Bush.
Fourth, the proposed host is Diane Sawyer , who rose to fame and fortune defending Richard Nixon as Ron Ziegler’s deputy during Watergate.
Finally, they want to hold the Town Hall on Wall Street so they can fill the hall with other super-rich Republicans and attack Obama for wanting to raise their taxes.
Senator Obama, we urge you to Just Say No to the Rich Republican Town Hall - and instead to hold the first debate in the Ninth Ward of New Orleans in an event controlled by We the People, not the Corporate Media.
Sign our petition to Senator Obama: Say No to
Rich Repulican meeting
Isn’t this the Michael Bloomberg who all of the Obama sheeple said would make a WONDERFUL Vice President and get all of the Jews to vote for Obama? If they could actually be proactive … i.e., think and articulate thought … they wouldn’t sound so ridiculous when they go into full reactive mode. Obama afraid of Wall Street? Isn’t that where at least 25 percent of his campaign money came from? I am sure that they can buy lots of fannies in seats to applaud and faint for him to protect their investments … unless (as we suspected) it was just to get Hillary out of the way so that the Rovians could feast on Chicago soulless tail?
Beebop there is written information that would ensure that Barack Obama will never get a Jewish vote. I am not Jewish, and I am horrified. Hamas doesn’t love him for nothing.
and bam at up all night writing this petition…lol
Opps, was saying bet Bambi sat up all night writing this petition!
Very interesting, considering all the gazillions of dollars in donations Obama has received from those very same Wall Street corporations.
Quite frankly, I really don’t give a damn if Obama gets asked tough questions, whether by ABC or by Republicans. Let him eat arugula.
Hilarious! We all know the obamessiah doesn’t do well unless the fix is in. The obots sound so desperate. Thanks Karen!
They’re just afraid that there won’t be room for Obama’s teleprompter.
Yes indeed! Debate them “Anytime, Any place” …
Barak buk buk cluck. Chicken.
Bwwaaaaa Obama!
Obama kool aid drinker!! Without a TelePrompTer Obama can’t complete a sentence without um-ing and ah-ing. He can’t speak off the cuff. If I were Obama I wouldn’t go on the townhall meeting circuit with McCain because of Bloomberg (who changed his affiliation to Independent 2 years ago) or ABC but because people will see how dumb he really is.
This isn’t over yet!
Hillary in 08!!
Karen: that is hillarious !!! One word: WIMPS!!!!!!
You should distribute this…. can they be more coward ??
Obama was an embarrassment at AIPAC.
Uppity is right.
The only jewish people voting for him are the liberal ones
(including Haaretz and Martin Peretz at the new Republic)
but no-one else that I know.
And they remember and try to defend President Clinton now??? After trashing him and his Presidency???
These people have no shame: no difference whatsover with what the Reps. did in the 90’s No wonder they have no idea what the battles of the 90’s were about. A**H****
Love it! Their “concerned” about ABC/Disney hosting it because the smeared President Clinton. Do these guys know the meaning of irony?
No, they do not. Irony requires a palette these folks are incapable of comprehending.
I’d like to see Barack go toe to toe with McCain in either Wall Street or New Orleans 9th. Like it or not Wall Street will have to play an important roll in salvaging our economy. It has been Bush ignoring Wall Street while giving BILLIONS in no bid contracts to Haliburton and it’s subsidiaries that has killed us. And in the 9th Ward, all we need is 1 person in the audience to ask 1 question. Senator Obama, in 2005 when you made $1,500,000.00 why couldn’t you spare 1 dime of YOUR money to hurricane Katrina relief efforts?
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
Jeesh*….these Obama nuts are wild. What a ridiculous letter. Do they imagine he’s going to avoid all Republican contact?
Leave Barry aloooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnne!
Rangel is calling him “The President” if more than one person does that…….it’s Bush V. Gore.
Well, no Democrats voted for Bush. That will happen again…….sorry pod people.
PUMA
Heck NO Barky
wtf? we’ve barely entered the GE!
And whoever was interviewing him didn’t ask him about it?
Why am I not surprised? ….
i continue to be shocked by how many of my friends just don’t get it.
I find it amazing how quickly those who were trashing Hillary before are suddenly praising her. As if we (her supporters) are total idiots. I’m sure over the summer that some will succomb to this ‘charm offensive’, but to me it remains just offensive.
You are correct, their methods of winning us over are stupid.
Hey Jim Jones and Charles Manson had alot of followers.
NO Obama
Hmmmm… I like your style. Any other charismatic “leaders” you can think of? I got a few in mind that fit the bill.
Thats easy as I posted in an earlier article.
Emperor Hirohito
Benito Mussolini
Adolf Hitler
Joseph Stalin
Mao Tse Tung
Kim Il Sung
Kim Jong Il
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
LOL now they think they can get my vote for nobama they can stick it
I spoke with Michele Goldberg at the rally for about 20 minutes, I wanted to smack the youthful smug look off her face, but resisted. (any time I don’t realize I’m 42 years old, all I need to do is speak/look at a 20 something to be reminded of the years I’ve lived).
She had her head so far up Obama’s ass she couldn’t understand how any of the sexism or race-baiting issues Hillary supporters feel were used to his advantage could possibly be attributed to Obama.
She is also one of those who could vote for kerry in 2004 but now sees Clintons vote for AUMF as inexcusible. She also dismissed Obama’s support of the bill to characterize Iran’s revolutionary guard as a terrorist organization, while saying he would have voted against kyle-lieberman even though he didn’t show up to vote.
How do they send a twenty-something Obamabot to do a story on Hillary supporters? Doesn’t that say it all about the media???????????????
Is there any factual basis to the rumor that he was GOLFING while Hillary was delivering her speech Saturday, or was that a timing difference that no one accounted for? If it was true, I think that we know exactly what Senator Obama thinks of Senator Clinton and her supporters. Zilch. Nada. Zip.
Read a post on another thread earlier today that cited the CNN headline (with photo) that originally was out, then the hastily posted rewrite that stated he watched the speech on his computer. Guess which one I believe…
Right, their cover is probably that the golf club had wi-fi access …
beebop: why do you need to know this? Do you have any doubt about how much he really cares? It’ll depend on the polls in the coming weeks how the charter that path. If
he is ahead nothing. If he is even they might change the tune
accordingly. They are so predictable that’s BORING.
No imagination, no creativity, NO IDEAS, NO CONVICTIONS, NO SOLUTIONS. That is what Obama is about.
You heard it right, beebop.Yesterday’s news: The arrogant,rude Obama was playing golf while Senator Clinton graceously submitted to the will of the Democratic neo-libs.She is a hostage, while the tormentor is having fun.
Today’s news: Obama, the unqualified candidate,watched Senator Hillary’s speach in the Internet.
Imagine that? Obama’s people are already so confused, they did not know where Obama was that mid day, I know the answer:still in bed with her ranting anti-white Michelle.Today’s news: She’ll rather die,than have the intellectual Hillary be the VP of her coward husband!!
And if I were Hillary, I will refuse the VP. I am sure I’ll be the one working & he is the one getting the credit! NO WAY, MISTER!
correction: while Senator Clinton graciously submitted to the will of the Democratic PROGRESSIVES…
Please call them what they are.
Liberalism (and liberals) are at the center of Americas linear political model. The progressives and conservatives are out there on the lunatic fringes
Yeses, one of the republican blogs, and one of the pro-hillary blogs have posted the CNN page from google cache before the story was scrubbed. Lots of people save this info anyway - I save everyhting as a pdf as I know it can be scrubbed. Little green footbals shows this with the scrubbing away of anti-semitic rants on Obaba site pages on the “jewish lobby” etc.
That doesn’t bug me. Who cares?
Show her this video she should be proud!
http://patriotroom.com/?p=412 he is joke
Holy Crap: I hadn’t seen those videos!! OMG !! her totally lost it : was he on drugs or something?
WOW !!!
No sleep in 48 hours eh?
Barky’s sparky is misfiring
Wow, that was painful to watch. He needs to stick with “I agree with Hillary”. Unfortunately for BO Hillary won’t be there anymore.
Onward to victory!
Good question, NYC Voter. She disses Gloria Steinem and other “second wave” feminists in that article. When people use the terms first, second and third wave to talk about feminism, you know they don’t have a clue about how crucial these issues are to women. If she continues in a profession, you can be damn sure she will.
I didn’t include some of her more egregious comments, like this one:
She also dismissed Obama’s support of the bill to characterize Iran’s revolutionary guard as a terrorist organization
Correct me if I wrong but he did not support this…
Hell no! He hid in the men’s room during the voting.
Apparently he was against it before he was for it!! LOL!!
he said he was against it, attacked her on the trail with it, then went to AIPAC and said he was FOR IT!!
Then he lost the traction he got at AIPAC by coming out the next day and reversing his Jerusalem position and saying it should have a Palestinian presence!! (yet Cafferty thinks HRC is Sybil-moron)
BWWAHAAHAAAAA
GOP get out your flip flops!!!
Great post, and this says it all:
Somehow, to inquire about the candidate became tantamount to criticism.
Nobama.
I agree. I love that line…how true.
If it is true that DB has been grooming Obama and Obamania since 2004 - after Kerry’s defeat, why did they bother to have a primary season at all?
Obama - selected not elected!
Flat out wonderful article, Medusa. I think you’re on to something very interesting. It does sound like the neocon infiltration all over again, but on the right.
I’ve sensed this myself but have not had the time to research it or put it into words. Nicely done.
Yes, good article.
The neolibs’ unfair,vicious treatment to Hillary & her supporters are very damaging to the Democratic party & to the country.
Why do we hire Obama, when there is another applicant, who has an excellent resume to fill the job of the highest office in the country? Senator Clinton is the legitimate applicant.
After Denver, I will vote for Senator John McCain.I know him better than Obama.
Neolibs, thanks to you for my decision. My family & friends are also sending their “Thanks” for showing them the door! Bye!
“John McCain is a mean, sexist pig” is the talking point du jour from the Obama trolls now.
It’s everywhere.
Apparently Obama plans to market his cult of personality in the GE without offering any more specifics—just tear down the other guy.
Sorry, not buying.
Typical; so far it’s been always about he been given sainthood and how horrible HRC is…
What was what he said: the politics of tearing down? I don’t remember what was his new politics about?
Someone show quote Obama from those rallys about “the politics of divisions” every time they come with an insult for his
opponent
Wish someone would make a video with this: FLINEO ??????
Oh really? And just what is BO? IMCPO, he’s a mean, sexist pig too with a TON of arrogance.
I don’t hate McCain as much as I hate BO, so I will choose to vote for the least loathed by me and that would be McCain.
I LOATH BO and I LOATH his wife even more.
Yes, the lesser of two eveils. Michelle Obama is the most evil of all. We will see how she screams sexism when nasty things about said about her.
yes, LOL, and Cindy who is the one with money and has a prenup would stay with him if that were so why exactly? Not that the GOP will pass equal pay far from it, but I KNOW what they will do, Uhbama could try to institute Sharia for all we frakkin know…
They don’t even know what sexism (