Andrew Sullivan’s Overdetermined Tendentiousness

While you have some interesting points (the same IP address for multiple accounts and all), why the digs at gays and jews? It hurts your credibility, and makes me question whether or not you are in fact a democrat.

For someone who is complaining about unfair treatment against women, you certainly make a lot of “limp wrist” and “aquiline nose” jokes. There’s a word for it: bigotry.

I actually used to read Sullivan’s blog. He wrote a lot about torture when it first hit the news and I commend him for it. Then his blog turned into this vile, repulsive hate fest (without comments, natch). Only correspondence he posted was about how wonderful he was.

Remember how the left hated him–once he became an Obama follower, they loved him. I guess that is all Little Roy** needed to feel loved.

**thanks Eric

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Any Hillary supporter who now supports McCain is showing that they care very little about the actual issues. Just like the poster here who said, literallym “I don’t care about the Iraq war”.

And they don’t care much about reproductive rights, either, apparently. As demonstrated by the Court’s recent Carhart decision on the Partial Birth Abortion Ban, the Supreme Court intends to chip away at Roe, and it will continue to do so if McCain wins and appoints more justices like Alito and Roberts.

It is not “blackmail” to point out this fact. Blackmail would be Obama saying, “Vote for me, women, or I will appoint Justices like Alito and Roberts when I win.” But Obama isn’t the one who will appoint justices like them; it’s McCain who will do so. That’s just a fact of life.

If you care about the Iraq War, or reproductive rights, you cannot honestly vote for McCain.

Hey it’s not my fault he’s a fat hairy pig that women don’t want to date! Put your fork down man!

Those of you who follow Rezkowatch’s blog have already read about the “Echo chamber” on the internet, planned by Barack Obama, and led by the same swine who did it for Dean. Everything they do is by command of the Obama campaign folks. Obama knows all about this and, like the sack of shit he is, he is enjoying it too. All the more you must make sure that everyone you have any influence over in your life does not vote for this bag of crap. He is the last thing you want to have the power that is bestowed upon the Most Powerful Position in the World. He’s a crude swine. This is why he is usless impromptu. WIthout a podium script and a messianic crowd, he is nothing. He can’t even put two words together. He’s an actor in his own B movie. He’s a Reality show, folks.

Print out filthy messages that you find here or anywhere on the net. Show them to your friends and relatives. Take the worst ones. Show them to anyone and everyone. Show every Jew you know the screen shot of just what Barack Obama thinks of them. Truly, gang there is something to offend everyone that has been crapped out by an Obama ass on the net.

These pigs don’t even know there is a world away from their computers. That’s YOUR world. Most people don’t even know who DK is. It’s a community unto itself. The majority of the country couldn’t care less about him.

Use the Real World to stop Obama. I can attest that it Works!

Everybody call into to CORBETT radio host thats for Hillary 100% and let your Hillary support be HEARD in 50 states 3.pm est Monday
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Great imagery…remember when he was on Bill Maher and when he got up at the end of his show, he picked his ass…I guess trying to get his twisted panties out of his backside.

Gee….I think “back then”, even DKos was mocking him…now they’re all a**hole buddies.

Truthteller — I’m all for criticizing Sullivan.

BUT — why the anti-gay epithet? “Limp wrist” used at least twice here?

Why? Are you trying to turn off gay supporters? Are you just a bigot who knows no better or worse doesn’t care?

I was with you in your critique until the “limp wrist” remark.

We all know Sullivan is gay — but get a clue — no one in the gay community likes him. He’s a pariah. He’s an idiot.

But not because he’s gay.

Did you throw that in to make him look worse? Are you using old right wing tactics to make enemies look worse by adding to their profile the fact that they are gay — Horrors! That means they must really be awful.

Or are you just a school yeard bully (not even tough enough to throw the “fag” word)? But that’s what bullies are — Not Tough Enough. Just blustery wimps.

I don’t tolerate anti-gay speech/actions no matter whom they target.

Grow up and apologize.

Andrew Sullivan is in the same vein as a certain type of gay man who existed in the early 1930’s, like the architect Phillip Johnson, who seemed attracted to political extremes (Fascism in the case of Johnson) and Communism (in the case of Guy Burgess)

Andrew is a British ex-pat who came here under the spell of Ronald Reagan. How any self-respecting gay man can swoon over the Reagan era with its’ refusal to acknowledge let alone fund AIDS research is beyond me.

Needless to say the kind of gay man that Sullivan is is a throw back to that very early 20th century gay culture that venerated the male (the Greek ideal) while magnifying the misogyny that already existed toward the female of society. It was the boys club on steroids; no girls allowed!!

He really as no place for women except in his supposedly beloved Catholicism where a woman virginal and merely a vessel to bring the male into existence; The Mary Syndrome. Once she exerts herself beyond that realm, Sullivan cannot process and then goes on the attack. He may on ocsasion give rudimentary lip service to the plight of women in “closed” societies but it does not come from a true base of concern. He merely addresses it from time to time to fill space.

Should I be flattered to have become enough of a thorn in the Obamessiah ass that his SS net troopers have attempted to troll with my nick? Maybe a little, but not enough yet. Now it’s time to turn up the fire on these little wusses! Every person I see is going to hear about Obama’s dirty tricks in the campaign, his connection to Rezko and so on. Every place I see Obamatons rehashing the same old BS lies, I am going to call them on it with facts, figures and links to creditable sources. And I will always wear my signature now. Any post without it will be instantly knows as bogus Obamaton bullshit, for I will never join the abomination that is the Obamanation!

Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.

For the record: I’ve been reading Sullivan’s blog for a year or so, appreciating his takes on torture and LGBT rights. Like Jenn, I have also been appalled by his anti-Hillary rants.

However, I don’t like the mockery of his sexual preference in the current post here at all. Racism and misogyny are not welcome on No Quarter; why should homophobia be OK?

And the notion that “women, particularly strong women, are debarred entry” to his world isn’t quite right. Check his post of June 9, 8:20 a.m., titled “A Woman Alone.” It’s about Margaret Thatcher, and is only one of many appreciations of the former British prime minister on his blog.

Finally, he does indeed post views from his readers contrary to his own, sometimes with and sometimes without comment; he typically titles them “Dissent of the Day,” and some days there are more than one. (He’s posted three of mine, all of them objecting to unpleasant comments he’d made about Hillary.)

So he’s a mixed bag (and aren’t we all).

A wicked and fun rant!

Andy Martin calls Senator Barack Obama an anti-Semite

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Dear Publisher:

I wish to notify you that you have posted false and defamatory information about me on your web site, and possibly in an upcoming edition of your magazine. If a prominent apology and withdrawal are not promptly forthcoming we will sue.

Your latest defamationnonsense makes a number of utterly false and scurrilous statements:

1. You claim that Senator Barack Obama, speaking to the AIPAC conference last week, was validating and responding to the fact that I am the “source of the rumors being used to spook Jewish voters…” I have nothing to do with any rumors being used to “spook” Jewish voters and know nothing about their source.

Barry Obama has problems with Jewish voters because of his long associations with anti-Semites and anti-Americans, not because of any e-mails I have circulated. As satirist Jackie Mason has suggested, any Jew who votes for Obama would be very misguided.

On the contrary, as early as 2004 I predicted what would happen when the truth about Obama became known. Accurately predicting a course of events does not make you a participant in them. You should be saluting me for my prescience, not smearing me with false accusations; but that wouldn’t make as juicy a story for your Christopher Hayes, would it?

I am a legitimate investigative columnist journalist whose name has been attached to anything I have circulated. As near as I can tell, I am routinely criticized by both Democrats and Republicans, so I must be the honest man in the middle. I do not do anonymous.

2. I am not an anti-Semite. This is a vile accusation and constitutes libel per se. The only citation for this accusation was the fact that a quarter century ago I was involuntarily involved in a bogus bankruptcy dispute in which I exposed massive corruption in the local federal court in Connecticut.

As a result of my battles and exposures, two (2) potential candidates for the U. S. Supreme Court may have later been rejected (Judges Joe Cabranes and Jon O Newman; the judges are still angry at me, decades later). Pleadings in lawsuits are privileged precisely because they do not necessarily represent the views of counsel or parties. For you to seek to brand me as an anti-Semite in 2008 based on involuntary participation in a lawsuit 25 years ago is irresponsible, outrageous and libelous.

Moreover, there was never any due process determination of the accusations you reference. In one case the record reflects I was not even a party to a lawsuit (Eleventh Circuit) and was gratuitously attacked by mendacious judges. In the case where I was a party no hearings on these false accusations against me were held by the crooked judges (Cabranes and Newman) involved. I exposed looting in the federal courts by local judges and their acolytes. In our society, judges do not have the power to brand people, and you certainly do not have the authority to accuse me of being an anti-Semite in 2008 based on undocumented accusations in a goofy lawsuit 25 years ago.

In point of fact, I am a strong critic of the U.S.’s Middle East policies, but I have also been a supporter of Israel. My Andy Martin Middle East Peace Plan in 2000 (available on the net with a little digging) called for U. S. troops to patrol the Green Line to separate Israelis from the new Palestinian nation and to protect each side from the other. A willingness to put Americans in harm’s way to protect Israelis is hardly evidence of anti-Semitism.

Barry Obama and his fellow travelers constantly circulate lies and false accusations about me to cover up and distract attention from his long history of anti-Semitism, from Reverend Jeremiah Wright to the Nation of Islam, to Father Michael Pfleger to (insert your own choice). I did not make Obama an anti-Semite. His record of anti-Semitism speaks for itself. Now Obama & Co. are trying to block sales of my new book on Obama, coming out this month, which is why The Nation is recirculating old smears. Why are they so afraid of me? Buy the book and find out.

I do not read the Nation but my views are generally considered to be well within the mainstream of Middle East peace discussions. Criticizing the “Israel lobby” does not make you an anti-Semite.

Mr. Hayes needs to go back to journalism school, and you need to supervise his writing much more closely. Hayes tries to create suspense out of nonsense. He asked me a year ago if I had written an anonymous attack piece on Senator Obama and I responded, “everyone who writes in this area is to some extent working off my original research.” That is in my opinion an absolutely correct statement of fact, which can be verified by looking on the Internet and seeing that people credit me with “outing” Obama in 2004. There is noting conspiratorial or improper about having made the unexceptionable claims about Obama that I presented then or since. They were all true in 2004 and they are true today (which is why Barry Boy is going down and taking the Democratic Party with him). And, to the best of my knowledge, I have never circulated any information or any e-mail about Obama without prominently attaching my name as the source. So your claim I am the mastermind of an anonymous “vast right-wing smear machine” is Hayes’ fantasy.

Because I have a book coming out this month (http://OrangeStatePress.com), and because I write generally on politics, your attacks on my credibility as a columnist and false accusations of anti-Semitism are libel per se. We recently sued the New York Times, and they have two law firms (with more to come) defending their nonsense, which was far less toxic than your own outrageous accusations.

If you would like to run a prominent apology and retraction promptly, I will not sue. Otherwise, we are headed to court.

Very truly yours,

ANDY MARTIN

Having just read Sullivan’s original rant I say without hesitation that you got the best of him. The guy is a gasbag anyway. It’s no wonder he spends his time attacking us. I find this all so humorous.

I believed for a long time that Sullivan’s book, Virtually Normal, helped me come out. It sunk deep into my psyche. But now that I know how pathetically gynophobic and sexist he is I will try to expel every word of that over-articulated, self-involved, academic-in-affect book from my subconscious. Anyway, I read Paul Monette’s masterpiece, Becoming a Man, before I read Virtual. Sullivan isn’t half the man.

I think it was great. Just go with the flow truthteller.

Does anyone else feel like somethings about to blow. Can’t remember where I read it at the moment, but the is a great blog about a pus ball. It is really great.

lol

As Obama Travels To North Carolina, How Will He Explain To Voters That He Supports Raising Taxes On Middle-Income Taxpayers And Small Businesses, And Hasn’t Voted With Manufacturing Interests?

OBAMA’S HIGH TAX PLATFORM WOULD HURT NORTH CAROLINA’S ECONOMY

Obama Has Proposed A Laundry List Of Tax Hikes, But North Carolina Taxpayers Already Have A Large Enough Tax Burden:

Obama Has Called For Higher Income Taxes, Social Security Taxes, Investment Taxes, And Corporate Taxes, As Well As “Massive New Domestic Spending.” “Obama’s transformation, if you go by his campaign so far, would mean higher income taxes, higher Social Security taxes, higher investment taxes, higher corporate taxes, massive new domestic spending, and a healthcare plan that perhaps could be the next step to a full-scale, single-payer system. Is that what most Americans want, someone who will fulfill a Democratic policy wish list?” (James Pethokoukis, “Barack Hussein Reagan? Ronald Wilson Obama?” U.S. News & World Report’s “Capital Commerce” Blog, http://www.usnews.com, 2/12/08)

North Carolina Taxpayers Had To Work Until April 17 Of This Year To Pay Off Their Total Federal, State And Local Tax Burden For 2008. “Tax Freedom Day is the day when Americans finally have earned enough money to pay off their total tax bill for the year. In 2008, North Carolina taxpayers had to work until April 17 to pay their total tax bill (ranked 27th highest nationally).” (The Tax Foundation Website, http://www.taxfoundation.org, Accessed 6/6/08)

Obama Supports Nearly Doubling The Capital Gains Tax Rate, Which Would Mean A Tax Hike For Many North Carolina Taxpayers:

Obama Plans To Raise The Tax To As High As 28 Percent. CNBC’s Maria Bartiromo: “Right now, as you know, the cap gains tax is at 15%. … He [Obama] has said, and he told me today, that he won’t go above 28%. So we are talking about the possibility of a doubling in the capital gains tax.” (CNBC’s “Closing Bell,” 3/27/08)

Obama Said Raising The Capital Gains Tax Wouldn’t “Distort … Economic Decision Making.” Obama: “I think that we can have a capital gains rate that is higher than 15 percent. If it–and if it, you know–when I talk to people like Warren Buffet or others and I ask them, you know, what’s–how much of a difference is it going to be if it’s 20 or 25 percent, they say, look, if it’s within that range then it’s not going to distort, I think, economic decision making.” (CNBC’s “Closing Bell,” 3/27/08)
Obama’s Capital Gains Tax Hike Would Hit The Middle Class. “In 2005, according to IRS data, 47% of all tax returns reporting capital gains were from households with incomes below $50,000, and 79% came from households with incomes below $100,000.” (Editorial, “Obama Gains,” The Wall Street Journal, 4/30/08)

In 2005, 681,647 North Carolinians Reported Capital Gains Income. (Internal Revenue Service Website, “Individual Income And Tax Data, By State And Size Of Adjusted Gross Income, Tax Year 2005,” http://www.irs.gov, Accessed 4/23/08)

281,361 North Carolinians With Adjusted Gross Incomes Of Less Than $50,000 Reported Capital Gains. (Internal Revenue Service Website, “Individual Income And Tax Data, By State And Size Of Adjusted Gross Income, Tax Year 2005,” http://www.irs.gov, Accessed 4/23/08)
In 2005, The Average Capital Gains And Dividend Income Reported Per Tax Return In North Carolina Was $3,967. On Average, It Accounted For 8.27 Percent Of Adjusted Gross Income. (”Dividends And Capital Gains Income Compared To Other Income, 2005,” The Tax Foundation, taxfoundation.org, 7/16/07)

Obama’s Plan To Raise Taxes During An Economic Downturn Would Only Further Weaken Our Economy:

CNBC’s Maria Bartiromo Asked Obama: “Why Raise Taxes At All In An Economic Slowdown? Isn’t That Going To Put A Further Strain On People?” (CNBC’s “Closing Bell,” 3/27/08)

U.S. News & World Report’s Michael Barone Said Obama’s Fiscal Policy Is Akin To Herbert Hoover’s - Raising Taxes And Backing Protectionist Trade Policies During An Economic Slowdown. “On fiscal policy, both Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton want higher taxes, at least on high earners. They want to let at least some of the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010, as scheduled. On trade, they oppose new free-trade agreements and want to renegotiate NAFTA with Canada and Mexico. As it happens, another president embraced such policies in a time of economic slowdown and financial market turbulence: Herbert Hoover raised taxes on high earners sharply and, ignoring a letter signed by 1,000 economists, signed the Smoot-Hawley tariff in 1930. The resul ts were not pretty. Until now, his example has not commended itself to Democrats. One wonders whether voters will agree that tax increases will stimulate the economy.” (Michael Barone, Op-Ed, “Uncle Sam Pays? Sure, Whatever,” U.S. News & World Report, 4/21/08)

OBAMA IS WRONG FOR NORTH CAROLINA’S SMALL BUSINESSES

Small Businesses Are Vital To North Carolina’s Economy:

“North Carolina Had An Estimated Total Of 766,500 Small Businesses.” (Small Business Administration Office Of Advocacy, “2007 Small Business Profile: North Carolina,” http://www.sba.gov, Accessed 4/23/08)

Over 98 Percent Of North Carolina’s Employer Firms Are Small Businesses. “Employer firms totaled 192,800 in 2006, up 3.3 percent from the previous year. Of this total, an estimated 98.1 percent, or 189,100 were small.” (Small Business Administration Office Of Advocacy, “2007 Small Business Profile: North Carolina,” http://www.sba.gov, Accessed 4/23/08)

Obama’s Payroll Tax Hike Would Hurt North Carolina’s Small Businesses:

Obama Supports Lifting The Earnings Cap On Payroll Taxes. Obama: “I think that lifting the cap is probably going to be the best option.” (Sen. Barack Obama, Democrat Presidential Candidates Debate, Hanover, NH, 9/26/07)

Eliminating The Payroll Earnings Cap Would Burden Small Business Owners Who Create Two Of Every Three New Jobs. “Lost in Obama’s calculations is that many of the people who would be affected by eliminating the earnings cap are small-business owners who employ more than half the nonfarm private-sector work force and create two of every three new jobs in this country.” (Editorial, “Caps Off For Obama,” Investor’s Business Daily, 9/25/07)

Michael Tanner Of The Cato Institute: “Small Businesses Would Be Particularly Hard Hit. In Fact, About One-Third Of The Workers Affected By Raising The Cap Would Be Small Business Owners.” (Michael Tanner, “Keep The Cap,” The Cato Institute, http://www.cato.org, 6/8/05)
North Carolina’s Self-Employed Would Be Especially Hard Hit By Obama’s Payroll Tax Hike. “The self-employed would be subject to a double whammy, since they pay both the employee and employer portion of the payroll tax.” (Editorial, “Caps Off For Obama,” Investor’s Business Daily, 9/25/07)

Obama’s Income Tax Hike Would Hurt North Carolina’s Small Businesses:

Obama Would Roll Back The Tax Cuts On Americans Earning Over $250,000. Obama: “[I] would roll back the Bush tax cuts for those making over $250,000.” (Sen. Barack Obama, CNN Democrat Presidential Candidate Debate, Manchester, NH, 6/3/07)

At Least 55 Percent Of Small Businesses File Their Taxes As Individuals. “Small businesses and individual entrepreneurs are the driving force of rapid innovation and economic growth in this country. At least 55% of them file their taxes as individuals.” (Editorial, “Caps Off For Obama,” Investor’s Business Daily, 9/25/07)

The Joint Economic Committee Found “A Strong Link” Between Marginal Tax Rates And Small Business Hiring And Investment Behavior. “Recent research finds a strong link between marginal tax rates and small business hiring and investment behavior.” (Joint Economic Committee, “Economic Benefits Of Personal Income Tax Rate Reductions,” http://www.house.gov, 4/01)

Obama’s Health Care Plan Includes A Mandate That Amounts To A Tax On Employers, Which Would Depress Worker Wages And Force Employers To Eliminate Jobs:

Obama’s Health Care Plan Calls On Employers That Don’t Provide Insurance To Forfeit A Percentage Of Their Payroll. Obama For America: “Employers that do not offer meaningful coverage or make a meaningful contribution to the cost of quality health coverage for their employees will be required to contribute a percentage of payroll toward the costs of the national plan.” (Obama For America Website, http://www.barackobama.com, Accessed 1/8/08)

“Mandates That Require Employers To Provide Health Benefits Or Pay A Percentage Of Their Payrolls As A Tax — A Proposal Backed By Sens. Hillary Clinton And Barrack Obama — Would Result In Lower Wages For Some Employees.” (Guy Boulton, “Better Benefits Or Higher Wages?” The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 5/5/08)
Harvard Economist Amitabh Chandra Said The Employer Mandate Could “Force Employers To Eliminate Jobs, Raise Prices Or Move Jobs To Foreign Countries.” “‘The populist view is this will only come out of profits,’ said [Amitabh] Chandra, the Harvard economist. But, ultimately, the money will come out of wages. ‘And, worse, for some people, it can’t come out of wages,’ he said. Some low-wage jobs simply can’t support the cost of health insurance, now estimated at more than $12,000 a year for family coverage. For this reason, Chandra said, a mandate would force employers to eliminate jobs, raise prices or move jobs to foreign countries.” (Guy Boulton, “Better Benefits Or Higher Wages?” The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 5/5/08)

Small Businesses Would Be Hardest Hit. “The biggest impact would be on small businesses, which are less likely to offer health benefits, and industries that employ more low-wage workers.” (Guy Boulton, “Better Benefits Or Higher Wages?” The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, 5/5/08)

OBAMA IS AT ODDS WITH MANUFACTURING INTERESTS

Obama Joined The Senate Manufacturing Caucus, But Rarely Votes With Manufacturing Interests:

Obama Joined The Manufacturing Caucus In The Senate. “Senators … announced formation of a Senate Manufacturing Caucus to advance and study the issues and interests of manufacturers. … [F]ounding members of the Caucus were the following Senators: … Barack Obama (D-IL)…” (National Association Of Manufacturers, “Senate Announces Manufacturing Caucus,” “ShopFloor” Blog, http://www.blog.nam.org, 6/15/05)

As Of June 8, 2008, Obama Has Received A 0 Percent Rating From The National Association Of Manufacturers For His Voting Record In The 110th Congress. (National Association Of Manufacturers Website, http://www.bipac.net, Accessed 6/8/08)

Obama Received A 16 Percent Rating From The National Association Of Manufacturers For His Voting Record In The 109th Congress. (National Association Of Manufacturers Website, http://www.bipac.net, Accessed 1/10/08)
NOTE: In 2006, Manufacturing Contributed Over $74 Billion To North Carolina’s Economy (GDP). (U.S. Bureau Of Economic Analysis, http://www.bea.gov, Accessed 6/6/08)

In North Carolina, Over 571,000 Workers Were Employed In Manufacturing In 2004. (Small Business Administration Office Of Advocacy, “2007 Small Business Profile: North Carolina,” http://www.sba.gov, Accessed 4/23/08)