The Three Acts of a Stolen Nomination
By Bud White on June 9, 2008 at 6:22 AM in Bloggers, Clinton, DNC, Delegates, Elitism, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, John McCain, Keith Olbermann, Misogyny, Obama, Popular Vote, Riverdaughter, Sexism
The Obamabots are in a panic. Even though he has claimed the nomination still we Hillary supporters have not seen the light. They are in shock that we are not swarming with the masses to the selected one.
On Wednesday, I wrote a defiant post declaring that I would never vote for Obama. An Obamabot, in a comment which I’m sure was pasted elsewhere, asked:
Would you completely disregard women’s reproductive rights allow the US Supreme Court turn ultra-right by allowing Mccain [sic] to win? Do you think he cares about the working class? Really? Do you really want 100 years of war in Iraq? Isn’t 8 years of republican incompetence enough for you?
The answer for me (and for many others) is that I will not condone the misogyny, delegate stealing, and race-baiting from Obama and his people. I am a Democrat precisely to fight against the type of campaign run by Obama. I will not be blackmailed into voting for a candidate whose tactics I find repulsive.
One of the areas I found most repulsive was the pro-male and anti-woman symbolism employed by Obama and the Media.
The heavy use of symbolism in politics — as a substitute for discussing real policy — is sometimes called Kabuki theatre, a type of Japanese drama “in which the actor holds a picturesque pose to establish his character.”
Applied to political drama, for example, John Kerry was shown windsurfing in Republican attack ads, an image used as a symbol of Kerry’s supposed flip flopping and elitism (while Kerry cuts through the surf, a narrator says: ”Kerry voted for the Iraq war, opposed it, supported it, and now opposes it again”).
The Kabuki theatre of this election, as I see it, was the use of violent language and imagery against Hillary, and the Hero Myth journey to represent Obama.
Regrading the violence directed at Hillary, for instance, a reader posted a comment to my blog: “I have been depressed for months, because I’m a woman and the homicidal wishes towards her are also directed at me.”
As the reader suggests, a narrative coming out of this campaign has been the misogynistic killing of Hillary Clinton. Keith Olbermann wanted “somebody who can take her into a room and only he comes out,” and Stop Hillary suggested that “Hillary is batshit, Liebercrat crazy. Fuck her with a pitchfork.”
The other narrative, of course, is Obama as fulfilling the Hero Myth. The fantasy of a multi-racial poor boy who makes good, works as a community organizer, and then heads off to Harvard Law — he then returns to slay the dragon (”I am delighted that Barack Obama has finally slain the dragon that is Hilary Clinton,” writes a blogger named Chris Gaskin)
Obama’s pollsters, when they were first trying to develop a theme for his campaign, were shocked but pleased that the needle went off the charts when they presented to focus groups that he was raised by a single mother. It’s no surprise, then, that Obama repeated this many times in both debates and other public forms. What he didn’t mention, of course, is that he grew up in a swanky high rise in Honolulu and attended private schools.
The unrelenting sexism of this campaign has badly wounded Obama, particularly with women, and his advisers know it, indicating that they plan to perpetuate the poor boy myth:
A senior Democratic strategist who backed Mr Obama said that the candidate’s biography – he was raised by a single mother, is married to a strong woman and has two young daughters – would give him potent appeal with female voters.
It’s unlikely that Obama’s mythologized biography will be enough to win over a sufficient number of women, especially since women rightly understand that Obama received fewer votes but was selected as the nominee over a much more qualified woman.
Which brings us to the third act in this Kabuki drama: Obama is an illegitimate nominee. Riverdaughter writes:
Hmmm, now we know why the RBC did what the did. She had over 100 delegates from Florida and 73 from Michigan. If he got zero from Michigan and both states had been able to seat with full strength, she could have added over 86 delegates and he would have lost 59. Hmm, that brings her total to 1725 and Obama’s to 1707. Day-um! I wouldn’t concede either.
And katiebird concures:
Friends, riverdaughter isn’t alone in her observations: In offices and shopping malls all across the country friends are sharing their impressions of this election. As of today they’re whispering their doubts but, as The Summer of Revelations drags on those whispers will grow bolder.
The word will spread from blog to blog and friend to friend and cubicle to cubicle: The Democratic Nomination was Stolen
Good Post Bud….In good conscious I cannot vote for Obama as I believe he is a FASCIST. I am using the classic definition of the term. I think the whole primary process was rigged by elites in both parties.
Thanks, Bud. I concur with workingclass artist. BO was rammed down our throats. He will be the new face of Fascism in the US. The oligarchs like Soros, Buffet, Murdoch ad nauseam want an empty, vicious and narcisstic man who will do their bidding. Oh say, like privatizing social security and re-instituting the draft. BO is very dangerous. They think we are stupid sheeple. I will never vote for Barry. Never.
This comment sounds like what they used to do in the Soviet Union:
Hmmm, now we know why the RBC did what the did. She had over 100 delegates from Florida and 73 from Michigan. If he got zero from Michigan and both states had been able to seat with full strength, she could have added over 86 delegates and he would have lost 59. Hmm, that brings her total to 1725 and Obama’s to 1707. Day-um! I wouldn’t concede either.
The fact that is said in all seriousness is scary. Why not give him zero votes in New York, you know what give him zero votes in Chicago and then you can really beat him. If you think the people of Michigan really intended for him to get zero votes you are a crazy cult person. Only total nut jobs would think something like that.
According to THE RULES you Obamatons claimed Hillary was trying to rewrite…Obama was not entitled to any of those delegates. They are required by THE RULES to go to the convention as UNCOMMITTED! You guys are all for “the rules” when you falsely claim someones trying to break them. But want to throw them all out when it’s proven they were broken to favor your anointed one.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
Wait, wait… I thought THE RULES said that even pledged delegates can change their mind? I mean, thats what the dead-enders like you have been chanting like a mantra, right? So if they can change, then the rules committee can ask the uncommitted to vote for Mickey Mouse. Thats the great thing about a RULES committee. They set the rules.
Of course, no one had a problem with the rules committee when they, including the hero Harold Ickes, voted to strip Michigan and Florida. Why did he want so badly to take that vote back when it would help his candidate?
Pledged delegates can change their votes if neither candidate has the required number of delegates after the first vote at the convention. But obviously you don’t care about right or wrong, you don’t care about the rules. All you care about is worshiping the racist criminal you call your Obamessiah.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
Your silly insults such as Obamessiah remind me of the right wing extremists who refer to Hitlery. The reason for them as with you is the facts are not on your side so insult insult insult.
Hilary signed a pledge on September 1, 2007 NOT Seat Florida, Michigan Delegates. What good is a pledge if you ignore it?
Show me in print this so-called pledge.
Are you serious? The “four state pledge” is here http://tinyurl.com/33xllv . It says nothing about which delegates will count or not count in Florida and Michigan. It says nothing about whether a state’s primary will count or not.
The candidates merely pledged not to campaign (or otherwise “participate” in as defined by the Rules) in any states holding a primary or caucus before Super Tuesday, other than Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina.
What good are facts if you’re going to ignore them?
MichelleK
Hillary did NOT sign a pledge to not seat the delegates.
All she signed was a pledge to not campaign in Mich. and Flo.
Obama also signed it, but he ran adds in FLorida.
Obambi did more than just run ads in Florida. He campaigned there as well. In fact, he spoke to Planned Parenthood at my friend’s restaurant in Ft Lauderdale on his way to other campaign stops so it’s total bullshit claiming that he didn’t campaign. He most certainly did and threw a hissy fit over not getting some special bottled water when his advance team never requested it. He was arrogant and rude and totally full of himself. He could give the scripted speech well, but when he had to take questions, he couldn’t handle it well. I think he’s getting answers through his little earpiece that is alleged to be for security reasons, a la Bush in the debates with Gore and Kerry. Remember the box seen under his suitcoat and the earpiece? I sure remember and the unbelievable answers, too. Obambi is just like Bush, and twice as empty.
If anyone else is as fed up and disgusted with DNC politics as usual, come check us out and join us at newwomensparty@yahoogorups.com. we welcome all disenfranchised voters.
Not to Campaign igit…
Your Messiah did not want a revote, peiod. He initially withdrew in Michigan because a)he was trailing by 20 points in the polls, and b)he wanted to curry favor with IA and NH.
Hillary wanted a revote, ObamaMessiah did not want to see the results of a MI and FL revote.
All of that was made crystal clear when the Rules Committee itself violated its own rules by not following the bylaws to the
letter. Instead the DNC made it appear that because it listened to the backroom shady pro-Obama state officials that the will of the people was followed.
It couldn’t be further from the truth and with all day coverage and research online, to try and pull the wool over everyone watching is, dare I say it, the audacity, arrogance and chutzpah ever rendered. Obama and the DNC are an utter disgrace to representational democracy and the rule of law.
POdVet did you do a 180 or did someone still your identity. I apologize for comments directed at you yesterday if that is the case.
I just assume it’s the bot stealing identities.
if the post doesn’t insult Obama in some way..it’s not me
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
You are the nut job because you don’t realize that if the rules had been applied according to what the rules say from the beginning, only half of the delegates would have been discounted from the start and Obama would have gotten zero delegates because HE VOLUNTARILY removed his name from the ballot. The fact that he decided to do that is no one’s fault but his own. You all talk about the RULES, but neglect to observe that the RULES would have mandated such a result.
Wow, you really can whine, very impressive. Wah Wah, reminds me of my 1 year old.
Call it what you want, MichelleK, but you were WRONG, and sound pretty whiney yourself in your statement above, but like a good Obama supporter, accountability is for suckers.
MichelleK and her ilk are just here to infuriate Hillary supporters so that they can continue to cast blame upon her for whatever the future holds for the object of their affection.
I would remind them that it’s called “INTEGRITY”. Not rolling over on you’re friends when a newer model arrives.
Don’t waste any of your good time trying to refute them. As the GOOD BOOK says, “Thinking themselves to be wise, they became fools”
That pretty much sums this whole thing up!
Yes and then when Obambi loses in a landslide, they have a built in scapegoat so Obamabi doesn’t have to be at fault for anything, or account for any o fhis own actions that have sent Democrats away in droves. Apparently Pelosi, Reid, Dean and Rahm Emmanuelle don’t remember the last time the party split and there was a massive walkout at the national convention. The DNC has never really recovered and it looks like there may be another lethal blow to the DNC. You’d think they’d ahve learned tha tlesson, but maybe they are so used to losing, it’s all they kno whow to do, is start acting like GOP in order to steal elections. I say let’s unseat every SD who votes for Obama.
Even worse, Obama obstructed any possibility of redoing both the Mich and FLA votes while there was still time. Clinton campaign even offered to pay for these revotes and Obama dug in and did not let this happen.
If it were the Soviet Union, you wouldn’t be allowed to post such a comment.
Your comment is not erased, you are not bullied.
Hillary supporters are SO NOT like Obamabots!
You are exactly right workingclassartist. That is one of the many reasons I will never vote for him either.
If people don’t like the word “facism” they can still accept the Obama campaign was demogoguery, the likes of which we have not seen since McCarthyism.
Bush also had a facist agenda demanding totaly fealty or else one risked total disenfranchisement. This is exactly what was demanded by the Obama campaign. When a top operative had no trouble describing Hillary Clinton as a “monster” you know this attitude came from the top down.
The final insult of insults now is demanding Hillary work full time for Obama and if she does not get all her supporters to back Obama, she will be blamed for his defeat. Hillary could get on her knees begging me and I will never vote for Obama.
What happened in his campaign goes so far beyond any feeling of party loyalty or sense of personal duty to Clinton that I owe the Obama campaign and the Democrats nothing. They created this mess all on their own. And now they have to live with the mess they created.
Yes, the destruction of Hillary Clinton by her own party to whom she devoted her life to, had the stench of facism and I want no further part of it.
It is not McCain who will be Bush McSame, but Obama who practices Bush’s same my way or the highway tactics. He can’t even bring his own party together. What a mockery to think he can do anything more outside the party. He peaked after his essentially unopposed “string of 11 (red) state victories” and he started losing ground from that point on.
Facism was on evident display with his jack-booting the meaningless caucuses. There was no base to generate storm-trooping minor state caucuses and why the Dem Party and the super-delegates could not see this is beyond my comprehension. This is no longer my party. They can do what they want with it and their “rules”.
Under the old “winner take all” delegate allocation rules, Clinton long ago would have been the clear winner and all this nonsense could have been avoided. If Obama had played a smarter game he maybe could have walked away with a VP slot on the Clinton ticket.
But his arrogance demanding only the top spot at any cost will cost the Dems one more lost opportunity and it will have his name writting on it and his name only. Setting up the blame Clinton scenario already for his expected defeat in November shows also a party I want no further part of.
Yes, let’s look at his record of accomplishments:
Divided the party by age, pitting young Democrats against old.
Divided the party by gender, pandering to a mob mentality that I didn’t even know existed.
Divided the country by race, retrograding the Democratic Party into a race-based divide we had hoped had been painstakingly put behind.
Divided the country by class, pitting elite against working class.
Divided the country by his believers and those that prefer to hope real change is possible, but don’t think faith in Obama is the answer.
Now the Uniter demands we unite behind his divisive ass. I could never support someone who has done as much damage to the party and to the country as this candidate already has.
Vaguely off topic - perhaps - but I continue to be amazed by how Obama financially manipulated this campaign and I am certain it was done by the use of money to others. However, on Heide Li’s site, I find the following and I am certain she is correctly quoting:
according to current federal law, no candidate committee (e.g. Hillary Clinton for President) may contribute more than $1000 to any other candidate’s committee. (This is why Senator Obama can only “help” Senator Clinton eliminate debt by issuing a fundraising appeal on her behalf - just as her campaign cannot contribute more than $1000 to Senator Obama’s, his campaign cannot donate more than that to hers.)
We have seen lists of donations to other candidates and I would love to have that special someone - Larry?, Susan? - help me understand how he is so flagarantly ignorning the campaign law. Or have I gotten confused?
of course the nomination was stolen.
Just go back to august, when the RBC stripped Florida of its delegates. This was based on an RBC staff recommendation — a recommendation that went well beyond what the rules called for.
But here’s the kicker — the RBC staff is charged with evaluating all aspects of a state’s delegate selection plan — e.g. the plan must provide for a ‘fair reflection’ of the vote taken, nust meet Affirmative Action requirements, etc.
Bus, based on its recommendation, the RBC staff did not evauluate the rest of Florida’s delegate selection plan. Even if one assimes that the RBC had the discretionary power to impose the 100% penalty, the staff is not empowered to impose it, and was obligated to evaluate all aspects of Florida’s plan. But they didn’t do their job…. and no one said a word about it.
I think he’s a fascist, too. Jonah Goldberg wrote about it in TNR and his book elaborates on the phenomenon. It is a right wing ideology but it needs a youth-driven, grassroots organization coming from the left. It’s like a hurricane when these perfect storm conditions exist.
Globally speaking of course the conditions are ripe and the sweep of FASCISM may begin in this hemisphere…..
Yeah, Jonah Goldberg, there’s a reliable source.
Don’t need Goldberg to tell us he is a cult leader,and cults in all forms can do dangerous things, ie hijack a major national party and run it into the ground head first. And if elected, God help us, ruin the brand of Democratic politics for decades.
What distinguishes Goldberg from the Sean Hannitys and Michael Savages is a witty intelligence that deals in ideas as well as insults — no mean feat in the nasty world of the culture wars. Sure, Goldberg hates liberals and calls them nazis about 25,000 X in his book. After reading Huff Po, I would agree.
“… quoting the Port Huron Statement doesn’t really change what the radicals did in the streets when they were actually fighting, when they were blowing things up, when they were supporting the Black Panthers, who wanted to assassinate police, when they were taking over universities. The fact that they said they were in favor of peace and Marxism is almost meaningless when compared to their actual actions, and their actions were fascistic.”
His book (I only read his articles) argues that it is liberalism, not conservatism, that embraces what he claims is the fascist ideal of perfecting society through a powerful state run by omniscient leaders. And it is liberals, not conservatives, who see government coercion as the key to getting things done. Even the international crowd sees a nationalistic sentiment when approaching trade or community development. Corporate sovereignty was established through our Fourteenth Amendment. The Davos crowd who really want to get beyond issues of sovereignty so they can organize and guide the planet on issues like global warming, invest a lot more in the U.N. is coming from the left, and it is a nationalistic impulse.
Never forget, there will be an asterisk by his name forever in the books should he pull this off in August.
The argument that Obama has a strong wife and two daughters actually proves the point. Would it be okay for his wife and daughters to be referred to as b*tches and wh*res? What kind of message is he sending to his wife and daughters to have a song played “I got 99 Problems and a B*tch Ain’t One”? Does that send a pro-female message?
Apparently his wife and daughters are only important when they want to use them to sway female voters. Otherwise he’s for an anti-female message. Flip-flop.
We women are gone and we’re not coming back to our abuser. Deal with it.
If I had only one word to describe the Obama campaign it would be “abusive.”
This phase is even more disturbing. It’s like a rapist saying, “Come on baby, you know you liked it” or a wife beater saying, “I wouldn’t have hit you if you hadn’t made me mad.”
Nothing is their fault. The feelings of those they have hurt aren’t legitimate. They expect no consequence for their actions. I never thought I’d live to see the day. Registered Independent and not going back.
I changed (after 45 yrs) to Ind as soon as the DNC decided to
continue their disenfranchisement of FL and MI then gifted BHO with
all those delegates that didn’t belong to him plus 4 that had been
earned by someone else so that he would be able to make his
declaration at his planned rally on Tues–”selected not elected” just
like W in 2000–careful all you 3rd partyers and write ins, you’re
reducing the McCain landslide we need to teach the arrogant Big Dems
who expected us all to ‘fall into line’ the lesson they need to learn
Arab men don’t value their women: mothers, wives, daughters. They are lower in value than their camels. That is why they have honor killings.
Let us proclaim again to the whole world that ,“women’s rights are human rights, human rights are women’s rights” Hillary Clinton, Beijing, 1995.
I felt that the attacks, the vitriol and the disrespect addressed to Hillary were also addressed to me.
Yes, that could have been any woman being attacked. Including you, me and Obama girl type Obama supporters.
The threat of overturning reproductive rights is NOTHING compared to the threat of having a left wing greedy immoral lying pandering Muslim and white hating rabid wife as POTUS. That is the opinion of all of the people I know, and we are not blue collar,gun toting rednecks.
Ah, so this is the youth’s New World Order??
This whole Obama phenom is dirty on both sides and with the unsavory friends of O’s that keep showing up it’s beginning to feel like a plot against America in big ways. And what group is easier to use and exploit?
This is getting worse by the minute.
NOBAMA!
Let’s not paint with too broad a brush though, not all young people support Barack Obama, Hillary won theyouth vote in several important states, including Massachusetts, California, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Puerto Rico. We young people in Hillary’s camp are just the rational, more logical kids. The Obama Youth, which outnumber us by a lot, the young people supporting Hillary, are the ones that usually can’t think on their own to well, usually have security issues, and have a sense of entitlement to revolution of some kind and a sense that their parents get them whatever they want.
Didn’t mean to paint with broad brush. Sorry for that. Thank goodness for youth who do think with their heads. If Obama wins I fear for their future though.
The scary thing is that they outnumber us soooo much, and you are right, it is the easiest group to manipulate.
I agree fully. Same with the older ones - too busy clinging to their good book. They would support a candidate who voted to impeach Bill over (without saying it) the black guy.
The Kabuki Theater metaphor is good, but I tend to think of it more as “Kukla, Fran, and Ollie” theater (guess I’m dating myself, huh?). You remember that show - 2 foolish male puppets and a real woman. The puppets weren’t really all that cute, but Fran always taught them a lesson and set them straight.
It’s the democracy, stupid.
paul lukasiak started posting at Table Talk. I remember him from The Great National Satyr Play.
a lot has happened since then.
he is a detail guy.
this is a salute.
Paul has an important post re stolen nomination at
http://www.correntewire.com/rbc_violations_of_dnc_charter_sunshine_provisions
That was was a well written artical Bud White…
I am a fan of Kabuki theatre especially the sound of the music….LOL
Thanks
I hadn’t thought of the hero journey meme. I need to think about that. Verrrrryy interesting. . .
I’m convinced that the nominee selection process was rigged from the early days because the DNC and Dem party leaders saw the money Obama was bringing in. Period. It was all about the MONEY. He can provide for Democrats running races; he can provide money for campaign war chests for superdelegates, candidates and the party. It was rigged for him, too, because the party leaders feared the GOP’s meme that Hillary would drive Republicans to the polls to vote for Republicans. Obama’s campaign used those narratives to frighten Dem party leaders into colluding in a fraudulent, rigged nominee selection process.
Hey, politics ain’t beanbag.
They got a little worried when Clinton came back and won the big swing states throughout March, April, May. But, they capitulated in the interest of the MONEY, and the “droves” of new youth registrations they saw, as well. And, they designed their new WESTERN STRATEGY to counter the old “Southern Strategy” of the GOP. We heard rumors of it long before the campaign began–”they’re going to stop competing for the South altogether,” “the Democrats are going to ‘write-off’ the South…”
Well, we’ll see if their general election designs work, if the money won them over to Obama, if the youth voter numbers shocked and awed them into submission, if the MONEY won them to Obama. Maybe they will be proved right, maybe not.
But, I won’t be voting for Obama because I won’t collude in their strategy to fix the nomination process; I won’t collude in their arbitrary rules applications to FL, MI, IA, NH, SC. If I go along with it, then the precedent is set; I can’t do that to this party.
So, I won’t be voting for Obama, because to do so would mean I agree with their electoral fraud. I actually became a Democrat when the Republicans stole the election in 2000 under a coup d’etat at SCOTUS. How could I possibly collude in the very same act by the Democratic Party?
I cannot. So, I won’t be voting for Obama. Because now, Obama represents the DNC, and is the product of electoral fraud. He is illegitimate as a nominee.
If you are correct and it’s all about money then it certainly isn’t about Democracy and the Declaration of Independence has a GREAT remedy for that!
What the Constitution doesn’t do is establish political parties. Political parties must conform to the election laws set by the Constitution not the other way around.
Sorry Larry,
I disagree totally. It would be extremely worse to have a President McCain.
I will vote for Obama. I do not think he will win though. Sad to say all the racists aren’t dead yet.
God, I don’t know what’s worse - a BO presidency, where every opposition or dissent will be chalked up to “racism,”…. or the 6 months of “analysis” about how racist America must be because we didn’t elect the black guy for President.
Because it’s NEVER about Obama, right? He can never lose because he’s a bad candidate with bad associations. He’s either “not known enough,” or, “them’s be racists in them thar hills,” or, “Fox News.”
Sigh.
It’s so childish of people to say that the refusal to vote from Obama must stem from racism as opposed to adherence to higher democratic principles. I would love to vote for him just because he is Black. Really, I would, but I can’t bring myself to do so in light of the coerciveness of the media and the Dem elites. I have thought about it so many times. Elect a Black president and allow the symbolism to prevail over reality. Color doesn’t always equal right (unless you are talking about right wing - i.e. Clarence Thomas).
Substitute ’sexism’ for ‘racism’ and Obama with Hillary. Sound familiar?
Sad to say all the racists aren’t dead yet.
What a lovely thought! This is the heart of Obama’s unity message.
… but then what about all the sexists?!!
Sexists don’t count. Obamabots and the RBC and MSM keep proving that. Most families today have mixed race families- I have a Korean grandson, black/white neices and nephews …this is so not about Race. (My grandson thinks he and I are twins..LOL!) But as we’ve all seen there has been nothing logical about any of this. Truth and honesty left in 2000…
Sexism is the most insidious of global prejudices….Many women ae in complete denial of it….( sigh )
IMHO….It is also the oldest prejudice and sanctioned by many religions/cultures that are based in Paternalism.
I agree. And why the Obamabots ignore that is such a hypocrisy in his campaign. Maybe they really believe we are the weaker sex and won’t fight back.
Let’s prove them wrong!
NOBAMA!
Damn right NOBAMA!
That they so frequently resort to calling anyone that doesn’t support their “one” is a sign they got nothin.
Bad thing about the whole deal with calling everyone that doesn’t agree with “racists” is that people are soooo tired of being called racist when they are not, that they really won’t care a whole lot when the actual racism rears it’s ugly head.
If sexism is fine in this country then why not all they other ugly isms?
Oh and every time some Obamacrat whines about some nasty media hit my response will be, “where was your outrage when another Democrat was being smeared”? Oh that’s right, they were a part of it.
I’ve been repeatedly saying HRC supporters should “greet” Michelle at her public appearances with similar comments and misogynistic hate speech to let her get a dose of what they did to HRC and all women hourly. And I’ll tell you, Obambi has shown he is very sensitive about how Michelle is treated. And since they put hate speech on the table, I think Michelle should get a good dose of it everywhere she goes. You people want to see Obambi have a total meltdown? Do a few “greet” sessions and he will go nuclear. I promise he really, really will. And they deserve it after all they did to HRC and all women in America.
Like all those racists at Trinity, right?
Why is it that Obama supporters always blame racism when their candidate loses. It couldn’t possibly be because he is a terrible candidate.
The racism in this contest has come from the Obama camp with their race-baiting tactics.
Obama will lose because he is unfit to be President, not because he is black.
Okay, Obama supporters, who has done more for minorities–the Clintons or the Obamas? Who did the Obama supporters paint as racists–the Clintons? It will be a cold day in Hell before I vote for Obama, the one with the real problems.
Actually, I think we’re voting against the white half which seems to be more than a little sexist.
If it was just about a black candidate there are plenty I would vote for over Obama or McCain but somehow they never seem to make it very far in the nomination process. And I really like Congresswomen Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Sheila Jackson Lee and don’t tell me they aren’t as “experienced” a candidate as Barack Obama because Tubbs Jones has been in Congress for 10 years and Jackson Lee has 13 years experience. So why first term senator Obama rather than a candidate like one of these Congresswomen?
Not to mention these two dynamic women have more integrity in their little fingers than Obambi in his whole body. There are more women then men in this country. I think women should band together and boot the men out of office and let women run this country. I can’t think of any area where a women could do any worse than the current pResident Select disaster. And now the DNC wants to give us another illegitimate pResident Select? I don’t think so DNC.
I see this as a generation trying to hold on to relevancy while a younger generation seizes the reigns and moves on.
I would have loved to see Hillary Clinton as president. I think I will see her sworn into office in my lifetime. But alas, not this time. We have gotten way too used to dire, paranoid rantings when we don’t get our way in this country. Everyone who beats our candidate is a fascist and somehow took what was rightfully ours by nefarious means. I have to say that it is the crazy fucking repukes that started this kind of thinking. But we have all embraced it.
I say we need to buck up and be sports and see how this all plays out. Shit, if we can survive George W. Bush for 8 years, surely we can survive Barack Obama, who at least has very similar goals and ideals as Senator Clinton.
Sorry I don’t trust Obama simply by the campaign’s tactics. None of that is like Hillary. How any woman will go back to the abuse and become a submissive partner in crime is beyond me..Sorry Lisa. Sometimes other principles are more important.
Hmmmm…..Lisa exactly what are the conditions used for judging relevancy
Is this due to age ? This reminds me so much of don’t trust anyone over 30 that it is laughable….And those that are running his campaign in the democratic elite are the very ones that engineered that illusion….
OH THE IRONY….
“I say we need to buck up and be sports and see how this all plays out. Shit, if we can survive George W. Bush for 8 years, surely we can survive Barack Obama, who at least has very similar goals and ideals as Senator Clinton.”
I say if we can survive Bush for 8 years, we can survive President McCain for 4.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/Dems_Who_Will_Not_Vote_For_Obama/index.html
We, the Democrats of the USA, refuse to vote for Barack Obama, if he is the Democratic nominee for President of the United States, because of the mainstream medias’ failure to make public the following failures and inconsistencies of Barack Obama.
The media portrays him as some sort of messiah/Jesus Christ figure who is going to rescue us by a wave of his hand, a John F. Kennedy re-incarnated, a perfect, squeaky clean candidate, who has never done a thing wrong in his entire life. Anyone who says a minor thing against him, even if it is self-admitted, is called a racist. The mainstream media will not cover ANY story that portrays Obama in a negative light, (most notably MSNBC on-airs) while having a field day, 24/7, on Hillary Clinton. Not only Hillary Clinton, but her husband, her daughter, her past, her present, her campaign, her campaign staff, her husband’s administration and any story that portrays her in any possible negative light.
-He falsely accused the Clinton campaign, specifically President Bill Clinton, of race baiting. When it was the Obama campaign, specifically himself, his wife and Oprah Winfrey who started the race baiting. It continues to this day with people like Jesse Jackson Jr. threatening violence and rioting if he does not receive the nomination. His wife has said publicly she doesn’t think she could support Senator Clinton, Obama himself has said his supporters would not support Senator Clinton, his wife has said ‘black people should wake up’, she wanted to ‘rip Bill Clinton’s eyes out’and Oprah has opined to Southern crowds in a suddenly heavy Southern accent all about Dr. King’ dream, which had nothing to do with electing a black man president of the United States. THIS is playing the race card.
-Since the Democratic Party cannot seem to run it’s own agenda correctly, we have open primaries across the country. It is now a known fact that Republicans have crossed over in record numbers to vote for Obama to ‘keep the Clintons out of the White House’. The blame for this lies squarely on the shoulders of Howard Dean and the DNC. Hillary Clinton has received most of the votes of the Democrats, while Obama receives the thumbs up from most of the Republicans.
-Many things in his books, ‘Dreams Of My Father’, and ‘The Audacity of Hope’, are simply not true. His ‘career’ is sketchy to say the least, including making sure he ran un-opposed in races to his suspect meteoric rise in Illinois. He rams NAFTA down Hillary Clinton’s throat, when in fact he voted to EXPAND NAFTA. He claims his association with indicted criminal Tony Rezko was simply a friendship, when we all know now it was much, much more. His refusal to distance himself from Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam, who has endorsed him. Obama ‘distances’ himself, but continues to call him MINISTER Farrakhan, and refuses to denounce his racism and militant anti-Semitism.
-He has absolutely no experience to be Commander-In-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States and President of the United States.
-Obama is a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. Many have descibed this church in terms of ’separatist’, ‘in some cases, even drawing comparisons to a cult’, ’scary doctrine’, ’something that you’d see in more like a cult or an Aryan Brethren Church or something like that.’ The pastor or ex-pastor (depends on who you listen to) Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright is an interesting character, who holds bizarre, racial and anti-semitic views. The church’s mantra and belief system is :
‘We are an African people and remain true to our native land, the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.’
The church has a ‘non-negotiable commitment to Africa,’ according to its website, and its pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. subscribes to what is called the Black Value System.
While the Black Value System includes such items as commitment to God, education, and self-discipline, it refers to ‘our racist competitive society’ and includes the disavowal of the pursuit of ‘middle-classness’ and a pledge of allegiance to ‘all black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System.’ It defines ‘middle-classness’ as a way for American society to ’snare’ blacks rather than ‘killing them off directly’ or ‘placing them in concentration camps,’ just as the country structures ‘an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.’
Obama says he found religion and Jesus Christ through Wright, whom he met in the mid-1980s. He has been attending Wrights’ church regularly since 1988.
-Collusion between Howard Dean and the Obama campaign, via Halperin’s Time blog: “Obama-DNC Fundraising Deal.” “Democratic sources tell The Page the Land of Lincolner and DNC plan to file a joint fundraising agreement soon that will allow donors to give simultaneously to his campaign and the national party. no
Sorry, I’m 26 and I know a lot better than most “older” BO supporters eager to see my generation “seize the reigns of power” and decide the presidential election that as a group on whole, we don’t know jack shite.
We need instant gratification. We want 100k right out of college, and we don’t want to wait for ANYTHING, including “seizing power” before we’re ready.
Quite frankly, MY generation NEEDS a Barack Obama DEFEAT to learn some valuable lessons in humility, patience, respect, and REALITY.
So…. thanks, but no thanks!
West Palm….I’m Obama’s age….chuckle….We are the Dazed and Confused Generation…..I would’nt vote for anyone from my generation for POTUS….It’s that damned New Math you see….I say Obama has to do a Math Test and a History test….and a GEOGRAPHY TEST….chuckle….
You might want to fond a copy of a great (bad) classic movie about the Youth Culture and politics called, “Wild in the Streets.”
Probably VHS only. Was not a box office Biggie. But not too bad, once you get over wanting to hurl over Jan-Michael Vincent’s performance.
And typing.
And typing. You women know wgat I mean. No matter what job you are up for, they want a typing test. I always just told them “I don’t type”.