Big Trouble in Obamaland
By PaganPower on June 12, 2008 at 7:00 PM in Barack Obama, DNC, Democrats, Hillary Clinton, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Ted Strickland, White Working Class
Now that the glamor and glitz of Obama’s illegitimate grab of the Democratic nomination has worn off, it is time for a little sanity to set in. Namely, how is it that Obama is going to carry those states where as he admitted himself, he believes the people there are bitter and clinging to their guns and religion? The answer will come as no surprise to anyone rational. He is going to have a tough time winning states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. There is no doubt about that.
Racial attitudes pose challenge for Obama
“I don’t think our country is ready for a black president,” Susick, who is white, said in an interview in the paint store where she works. “A black man is never going to win Pennsylvania.”
Now if we were in campaign mode you would see Axelrod, Plouffe or Jackson point out that the person making the comment was just a racist and therefore could be dismissed. But thankfully we aren’t in campaign mode and people like Susick are allowed to speak their mind without being labeled as something they are not.
More troubling is the statistic that won’t go away. No matter how much money and bullshit the Obama people try to throw at it.
In the April 22 primary, Susick voted for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who carried Pennsylvania by 10 percentage points. Perhaps more troubling for Obama, one in four Clinton’s backers told exit pollsters they would vote for McCain if Obama were the nominee; an additional 17 percent said they would not vote at all.
Look at this closely. 25% of Hillary supporters said they would vote for McCain and another 17% said they wouldn’t vote at all. That is a whopping 42% of Hillary supporters that WILL NOT support Obama. You might call that a significant statistic.
More worrisome are longtime Democrats who backed Clinton in April but are threatening to abandon the party now that she is not the nominee.
Rose Iezzi, who lunched recently with two friends at a Greensburg cafe, is one. All three women are middle-aged, work for an accountant and admire Clinton. But only Iezzi took a hard stand against Obama.
“I think he’s a snake oil salesman,” she said. “He’s a little too slick and smooth.”
“He just doesn’t appeal to me, and not because of race, definitely,” she said in an interview in which race had not been mentioned.
In fact for all the attempts to call the people that will not support Obama racists, the facts tell another tale. A tale that doesn’t fit in to well with the lies the Obama camp would have you believe. Despite the exit poll claims we were spoon fed by the Obamedia, the truth tells us something else entirely.
In interviews with 40 Pennsylvanians across three counties that Clinton won by big margins, only one person indicated opposition to Obama simply because of his race.
Sounds a little less troubling than we were initially led to believe. Some estimates had the percentage as high as 20%. So much for the reliability of exit polls despite the DNC’s illegitimate reliance on them.
And if this was just Pennsylvania perhaps Obama and the DNC could write it off. As they have so many other things. But the problems in Pennsylvania apparently also resonate in Ohio where Obama not only lost to Hillary but is losing ground to McCain.
Clinton’s supporters still wary of Obama
Harper was impressed by Clinton’s empathy for the struggling middle class and said she would have voted for her this fall. But now that Barack Obama has sewn up the Democratic nomination, Harper isn’t sure whom to support.
Obama’s comments about “bitter” Pennsylvania voters turning to guns and God turned her off, and she’s concerned that Republican John McCain represents a continuation of the Bush administration that she doesn’t think the country can afford.
“Now, I’m kind of in limbo,” Harper, 53, said last week during an interview in Hanging Rock at the Ohio University Southern Child Development Center where she works.
So Bittergate still resonates in Ohio as I am sure it resonates elsewhere. People have not only not forgiven Obama for his comments, they have come to trust him even less recently.
Last week, The Dispatch retraced Clinton’s trip, and in interviews with nearly three dozen people in places she visited, it was clear that although Obama has fans in the region, he has work to do to win over voters such as Harper.
There is a disconnect that Ohio voters instinctively feel toward Obama. Hillary they got. She touched them, made them feel visible, important. Obama, not so much.
“It was like we meant something to her,” said Chuck Denney, 55, of Gallipolis, who works at a nearby power plant and was having lunch last week at the original Bob Evans restaurant in Rio Grande where Hillary Clinton stopped in February.
But the Obama campaign and their DNC enablers aren’t worrying about Ohio. They have a plan. They honestly think that getting popular governor Ted Strickland to campaign for Obama is all he needs. And Strickland seems to think so too.
The governor said Friday he will encourage Obama to spend time in Appalachia and focus on such “kitchen table issues” as jobs and health care.
“I think if he does that and does it effectively, with my help — and I will help — that the folks in the communities that you’ve just visited will give him an honest hearing,” Strickland said.
But Buckeyes have to ask the pertinent question. Why is it that Obama didn’t reach out to Appalachia before, when he was courting Ohio for the nomination? He instead referred to them as bitter white people that cling to guns and religion.
So, sorry Governor Strickland. As popular as you are and deservedly so, you aren’t going to hoodwink the good people of Ohio into believing Barack Obama suddenly respects hard-working blue collar white people. Because we already know that he does not. Except for when not respecting them gets in his way to power.
These latest revelations, coming just days after Obama’s presumptive coronation as the Democratic nominee, are mere warning shots. More will come, surely. I expect them to dribble out a little at a time. The question is: Will the people that have the authority to do something about it take action before it is too late?
And I can’t say with any sincerity that I am hopeful they will.
“I attended my church for 20 years, but I never inhaled!”
This is freak’in hilarious, the Kos blog is beside themselves because Larry Sinclair
will have a news conference at the National Press Club, just too funny. poor poor
Obamabots, lol.
http://action.firedoglake.com/page/petition/stoppingsinclair
Kos put this on their website to try and stop Larry Sinclair from his new conference next Wed. June. 18 2008, what a bunch of scared rabbits, lol. Obama is free to show up and defend himself, it’s called free speach Obama, get it, fool.
Now the goon squad at Kos have taken it upon themselves to call and harass the National Press Club into trying to force them to cancel Larry Sinclair’s press conference. ANYBODY that believes in free speech needs to call the National Press Club and let them know we want to hear what Larry Sinclair has to say and that we can, as adults, make up our own mind as to the contents thereof.
202-662-7500 NPC
This is the kind of mentality that one gets from Obamabot’s over at Kos:
Thank You, Markos (6+ / 0-)
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For the petition site and the phone number. I signed the petition, but it seems the phone number is tied up. I need to write a program to auto-dial so I don’t have to waste time.
I already performed a caller ID exploit two years ago, so I can call repeatedly, and every time it gives caller ID a different number. I think the NPC will be hearing from me a little.
Thank you, Markos.
Guess who: a war-loving geopolitical fantasist born when African Americans were treated as sub-humans and women could still be treated as slaves.
by prestochango on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:02:37 PM PDT
I have emailed the above post to NPC and let them know that ROBO calls with FAKE caller ID’s would be coming their way from disgruntled OBamabots from the Kos blog, lol. I’m sure they will be pleased at the dishonesty from the Kos slime, lol.
Psyops on the Press….nice!
Hey Putin, give us oil, or the obamabots will robo call you!
You certainly are right about the panic, from the blog author on down to the other minions.
Fun to watch! Scurrying around like a bunch of cockroaches trying to figure out how to stop “free speech”.
They really are in a frenzy.
Between the Michelle tape and Larry Sinclair and the FBI mole at the Rezko trial, they’re definitely panicked.
Amusing to watch, now that they’re own candidate has to stand on his own merit.
BOBOweenies have a problem with free speech. BOBO has got to go.
I will never trust Obama or anyone associated with that campaign regardless of what Hillary says. I support her but I cannot go that far even for her.
That must be the reason why he is relocating the DNC to Chicago! Today’s news!
Obama site confronts rumors
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WASHINGTON (AP) - Democrat Barack Obama’s campaign said Thursday that Michelle Obama never used the word “whitey” in a speech from the church pulpit as it launched a Web site to debunk rumors about him and his wife.
The rumor that Michelle Obama railed against “whitey” in a diatribe at Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ has circulated on conservative Republican blogs for weeks and was repeated by radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh. The rumor included claims of a videotape of the speech that would be used to bring down Obama’s candidacy this fall.
“No such tape exists,” the campaign responds on the site, . “Michelle Obama has not spoken from the pulpit at Trinity and has not used that word.”http://www.fightthesmears.com
The site is a response to the realities of a brave new world, where information travels 24 hours a day on blogs and voters are increasingly turning to the Internet for information. It’s a particular problem for Obama, a relative newcomer to national politics who is still unknown to many voters and has been the target of persistent misinformation campaigns online.
In another sign of the campaign moving into the general election race, the Democratic National Committee’s spokeswoman said Thursday its political and field operations are relocating to Chicago, where Obama’s campaign is based. While other departments will remain in Washington, it’s an effort to streamline the campaign and party efforts in one strategy instead of the overlapping efforts of past presidential elections.
That’s real good, move the DNC to an even more corrupt place like Chicago, I’m sure Rezko is chuckling from his jail cell at that revelation. Maybe they have space in the basement of Trinity United Church.
Auchi is in Chicago too. I understand France would like to talk to him about the “food for oil” money.
Snakes in the Illinois Combine pit!
Actually Auchi has been denied a visa to enter the US. There’s reason to believe he wanted to bribe some Illinois politician..Obama?? through Rezko for a visa.
Alsammarae is the fugitive wanted by interpol and iraq, and currently running around Chicago free as a bird. The DNC elites better watch themselves in Chicago, they may end up finding pictures of themselves with an unknown person who turns out to be Alsammarae being used as blackmail to force them to keep breaking their own rules to favor Obama.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
So the corrupt DNC now becomes the CDNC!
Fitting, the added “C” can either stand for Chicago or Corrupt.
Which is irrelevant, since they are synonyms!
Oh GAWD.
Does this mean his Chicago political machine gets its hands on the DNC’s checking accounts???
Smooth move, Howard.
I read an article earlier about the Obama camp blaming the Republicans for starting this “so called rumor”. Whitey is a Michelle Obama quote if there ever was one. Why would the Republicans have reason to call someone whitey?
Actually, some of Larry’s Republican friends told him about the tape, laughing and saying they’re “saving” it for October. Probably in Karl Rove’s safe.
Larry wanted to warn the DNC about it, so published the info on this website.
NOW the Obama trolls are trashing Larry for making it up, after the Obama campaign’s attempt to claim Michelle was saying “Why’d he” instead of “Whitey” (thus admitting it exists).
These are Axelrod Chicago techniques.
Man, the Obamabots are BIZARRE.
Why’d he….. Whitey…. Who are you going to believe, BOBO or your lying ears?
They sure are saying “from the pulpit” quite clearly and often. In other words, Michelle has said the word whitey and perhaps in a rant, but just not from the pulpit of Trinity.
We’ve seen the tapes from the racist church, They don’t speak from a pulpit. They speak from a rather wide stage. Saying MOMO never said it from the pulpit is how BOBO lies and tells the truth at the same time. BOBO has got to go.
Agree completely.
It’s a Nixonian non-denial denial.
Well , ok.
Except that 2 weeks ago, the Obama campaign was claiming that Michelle said “Why’d he” instead of “Whitey.”
NOW they’re gonna say it doesn’t exist at all, when they already tried to say she was simply misunderstood?
I don’t think so.
There’s REAL trouble in store for Obama. We now have absolute beyond-doubt proof, in the form of a letter from Tony Rezko himself, that Fitzgerald is going after Obama in a big, big way. I have the story up on my site.
I read that letter. The pressure is on! No wonder Camp Obama is in panic mode. Between the Whitey tape, Larry Sinclair’s press conference and Rezko’s conviction Obama’s gotta be on a steady diet of tranquilizers and kaopectate! LOL
Rezko. Another judgement problem.
http://tinyurl.com/5phlpn
OBAMA-WIRE.COM
Maybe you should change the name of the blog to notape.com
Did Barry drop out yet?
“Why won’t the bastard candidate drop out?
Maybe the blog should be called nochance.com!
One thing I have noticed after lurking here a couple of days, is that the same “faces” make the same exact comments day after day.
Their tactics include: NEVER apologizing when proved wrong, a refusal to enter into HONEST and rational debate, using “catchy” sounding propaganda and to repeat,
1. HILLARY
2. MCCAIN
NOBAMA!!!!1
Fascist, Marxist, corrupt, gay…and other GOP smears.
Their JOB is to sit 24/7 on this blog and sow as much hate and division as possible.
They know it’s a numbers gam,e so they keep on truckin’.
This is divide and conquer by a small army of Republican Trolls.
We are on to you.
wait, i recognize you obama troll. You are on here day after day with your pathetic arguments aren’t you?
I expect you to continue being on here day after day till November trying to polute with your talking points.
do us a favor and choke on obama’s now missing Johnson.
tsk tsk…
Do you fellate your grandfather with that mouth?
I rest my case.
Agreed!
Their JOB is to sit 24/7 on this blog and sow as much hate and division as possible.
Now why don’t I get all teary eyed when a BOBO boy cames here and whines the big whine about how fragile and bruisable BOBO is. Maybe it’s because you BOBO boys came out by the thousands day after day after day to spread the lie the Hillary wanted BOBO murdered.
I think flowbee.com was already taken.
Here’s your sign
In regards to the birth cert the Obamabots have put up at their website, it’s NOT THE SAME ONE THAT Kos put up today. Go to my blog and have a look at the one I downloaded from Kos today and the one put up just a while ago at Obamabot’s website. The Obamabots scaled down the resolution of their so one can not maginfy the image, like I did with the one from Kos, shame on you deceptive Obamabots, lol.
http://americablog2.blogspot.com/
It is a scanned copy. Please research harder.
troll
yea I was just gonna ask him for a link to prove it
nuck’n futz he is
NONE of the people I talk to have changed their minds. Actually MORE of them have joined PUMA than even I have.
The only reason I have yet to join is because their rules say you can’t cuss (among other things) and I could never promise that. I could promise to try but that would be about it!
My guess is BOBO has a different version of his birth certificate for each demographic he is trying to con
Obama was reported to be born in 1961. Where did 1959 come from on the birth certificate?
It’s the year Hawaii became a state.
Some facts - next time you lump trolls as obamabot/trons or voters
For 3 yrs (at least), every day possible I popped in to blog when I could at the DNC Open thread.
Participant “regular” bloggers numbered around 35 (I know because I ran local polls and have counted the various IPs MOSTLY to stop double voting)
ANYWAY
my point is that of those Democrats I don’t believe ANY (NOT ONE) of them would BOTHER coming to a blog like this and cause trouble. They might read but probably not post as we do look pretty hostile sometimes (with imo good reason at times)
again
my point is I think MOST of the really nasty “pretend” Obama freaks are really TROLLS of another kind.
I am sure none of those were as VOCAL and PUSHY as I am for sure. They were all mostly pacifists and sanctimonious hypocrites but very harmless! I think I was only ONE of two or three veterans and they were all softer than I.
And I would NEVER go to KOS to pretend chit or cause trouble
jmo
If that is what you need to think to make your world all safe and secure again don’t let us stop you. The bliss of your ignorance is probably what made you an BOBOweenie to start with.
CNN is going to bat for the Obamabots in regards to Obamabots countering supposed rumors(after the commercials), lol. This should be funny as hell.
CNN is going to bat for the Obamabots
What a surprise…..
http://www.dontvoteobama.net/
For the first time in my adult life, lol
Nothing about Whitey tape, too hot for CNN, lol.
“Lay off my wife”, yeah right Obama, get a life.
Whisper campaigns after the next commercial, lol.
CNN you cowards!
CNN has been the Confused News Network ever since Turner left
Larry, Susan
i just posted a long post regarding support/abort the speech of larry sinclair at the national press club. please look for it
unfortunately i made it in bold, so maybe is in the spam.
i did not know how to contact u directly with the information
thanks
It is now his race…it is his associates, his attitude, his arrogance, his wife, his flip-flops, and especially the way he had no respect for Hillary. Join us thousands at http://www.hcsfjm.com and in project GREEN RAIN FOR MCCAIN…us Hillary supporters are MAD AS HELL…and are making plans to show the DNC how we feel.
Take a look at the blog:
Politically Drunk on Power
The posting is an article:
Democratic Disenfranchisement: Final Report
Well organized with numbers by state of Delegate counts in error.
They brought up “Whitey tape and “baby mama”, lol, but dismissed it as not proved yet, lol. In time, in time, lol
The tape is hearsay, started by Rush Limbaugh !!
The “baby mama” thing is a disgusting bit of slander and is highly unprofessional of Fox.
N.B. Both critical bit of hearsay are from Fox.
Uh, no dear.
The Obama campaign is NOW saying the tape doesn’t exist.
2 weeks ago, they were claiming Michelle said “Why’d he” instead of “Whitey,” thus implying it DOES exist.
I’ve read Michelle’s thesis. It’s FULL of complaining about whitey, and why she avoids them as much as possible.
The Obama campaign has lined up all their little CNN and MSNBC supporters to deny the tape BECAUSE they know they said something else 2 weeks ago.
I think we’ve seen this game before, folks.
First BOBO lies. Then when that lie doesn’t work he makes up a new lie and lies some more.
YEP. His story changes.
Just like it did with Rezko, with Wright, with NAFTA, with a lot of things.
Classic bamboozling.
Off topic I know, but…..
I recieved a call a half hour with some questions.
Are you a registered Democrat…….yes
Did you vote for Hillary Clinton or Barabk………..Hillary
John McCain would like to invite you to a live conference call this Saturday at 1530.
Can we count on you?………..yes
It’s nothing we didn’t know already.
GOP fights dirty and hard.
Their campaign runs in disguise all over the internet.
Well, you should have thought of that before you called all the Hillary supporters bitter, clingy, racist, and hillbillies.
They’re GONE now, hot shot.
And the Obama supporters’ arrogance caused it.
You said it Mary
whywhywhy, The GOP’s fight so far,is as clean as the face of Michelle,when she thinks she’s Jackie O. And the Obamanites’ dirty politics smell like BHO’s morning breath & smelly socks!(this info comes from his missy)
This campaign was rigged to the beginning and
P.U.M.A. will be ready to pounce you, Obamanites!
We’ll get “even”. Vote Hillary or McCain!
CNN is so in the tank for this fraud. Some pundit wanted to bring up how Obama criticized Hillary’s involvement with Walmart but Michelle worked for Treehouse which is Walmart’s biggest client and Campbell Brown completely cut her off saying she “did’nt want to talk about Walmart” and then proceeded to discuss with another pundit the “underlying issue of race” in the “attacks” on Michelle. Oh puhleeze! They’re really overplaying the race card and it’s sooooo going to backfire.
My guess is it’s the entire forest of logs that is protruding from BOBO and MOMO’s eyeballs that allows them to accuse every one else of being a racist. When you go to a racist church for twenty years you kinda have to accuse everybody else of being a racist so as to draw attention away from you having gone to the racist church for twenty years.
I just can’t imagine ANY First Lady having to explain to her 2 young daughters what the pastor MEANT when he humped the pulpit and screamed “Riding us Dirty,” can you?
I wonder how Barak explained that to his daughters.
Back in the nineties a was watching Tony Browns Journal for shit’s and giggles on PBS and he had some Chicago alderman on that was saying if the whites didn’t make good on reparations by the end of the nineties, he was going to rally Blacks to roll burning tires down on the interstate during the morning commute of white motorists. I was sitting there with my moth hanging open after he said it. The black audience was sitting there nodding their heads yes. The black community as a weird thing going in Chicago. It never surprised me when I heard the Wright snippets. It bothers me to no end that BOBO is from that mindset and supports it and considers it family.
John Conyers already HAS legislation written for Reparations. Just waiting til Obama gets elected.
Look it up. Flat true. REPARATIONS.
What bothers me more about his immersing himself in this is that he’s half white. He’s essentially rejecting himself. Rather than embracing his full heritage, which is being half African and half white American, he made a conscious choice to vilify the latter and try to become one race. I know that biracial kids will sometimes be pressured to make that “choice,” but their reality is that it’s fake. It’s not real. They are both, and nothing can change that.
TM has a petition on her site to stop the NPC from allowing Larry Sinclair to speak as well.
I guess the one thing that shocked me the most was in the beginning how the Obama supporters came out by the millions and brought up every filty lie that had ever been spread about the Clintons. Whitewater,
Gennifer Flowers, Vince Foster etc …They spent over a year spreading these lies all over blogs and now that ONE person is saying something about BO they want to take away his freedom of speech?
Whats up with that?
This article came out before all of the newest polls. Obama is up among every demographic group with the sole exception of white men. He is capturing the same number of white men as Kerry held. Although the other groups are significantly stronger then Kerry.
Uh, no. He’s waaaaay behind with suburban women, too.
It’s why he’s gonna lose Missouri and Virginia.
The polls also said Hillary was leading.
And….Did Kerry win with those demographics?
The Obamabots have no idea what is coming. Our coalition of conservatives and PUMA’s will help John McCain win the presidency in 2008.
We cannot allow left wing activist Supreme Court justices to hijack our democracy. We cannot afford decisions like the restoration of Habeus Corpus to Gitmo detainees. McCain will be as strong in the war on terror as our great president George W. Bush and will work to appoint real constitutionalists like Alito and Scalia.
Hillary ran a fantastic campaign and together, we can elect John McCain the next president of the United States.
ALL the recent polls say the opposite.
ALL the vested interests and super rich want McCain.
The same goes for the MSM and the pollsters.
Yet, still the polls are as they are.
p.s. America’s biggest “threat” isn’t terrorists, it is China and Russia and the economy.
p.p.s George W. Bush is NOT a great president! lol
I agree the Chimperor does not even remotely resemble a great president.
That’s one of the reasons I can’t vote for Obama–he shows the same authoritarian tendencies, the same disrespect for opponents, and the same kind of zombie followers who think he’s a messiah that Dubya Bush shows.
And Obama doesn’t even have the experience Dubya had as a governor.
There is NO WAY senior citizens will support him.
Of course BOBO is experienced. BOBO organized some people in a community somewhere once (yuck yuck yuck)
Bobo is experienced at playing along with the Chicago political machine, and nothing else.
BOBO is a follower expecting us to give him the office of a leader.
you sound like a troll.
Hey, I am worried about this move to Chicago. Is who ever is fronting Obama now in control of the Democratic Party? Will that control remain in “Obama’s” hands even if he loses in November?
So even if we defeat him in November have we still lost? Can Hillary get the nomination away from them in 2012? By then how many Senators and Representatives will they control? Maybe Obama is collateral damage.
We do need to start another party and leave this one in the dust.
“We do need to start another party and leave this one in the dust.”
Absolutely, Betty!
However, we need to also destroy this back-stabbing one that we have previously supported with much time and money.
It needs to implode, starting with Dean, Brazille, and MoveOn!
Defeat BOBO and we can have our party back.
What did Obama think was gonna happen when he told america that he was putting up a PAID website and staff to troll the internet. That automatically made every comment on the internet in favor of Obama suspect. LOL what a moron.
Word is, Axelrod et al have been reading Larry’s website daily since he revealed the Michelle tape, which was a while ago.
They’re seriously THREATENED by it all.
Axelrod, if you’re listening, you need smarter trolls. The ones you sent are stupid.
Obama is well ahead in the Ohio and PA polls over McCain.
Obama is gaining ground daily.
And when the Obamessiah wins, we all get flying unicorn ponies! Whee!
I think it was predictable that Obama would get a boost in the polls (as would Hillary) when the presumptive nominee status was confirmed. The question will be whether that bump will last through the summer and fall. Typically, Democrats have led the Republican and then the Republican bounce comes at the end. We have a long way to go. But I would say to the Republicans and to McCain that they should not underestimate Obama. Despite all his baggage the Republican baggage in the mindset of most Americans is still advantage Democrat. Even though I have been and continue to be an HRC supporter and will not vote for Obama, I recognize that Obama and his minions are more than willing to play a brand of politics that would probably teach Karl Rove a few tricks. Even with a “whitey” tape and a bomb from the Rezko trial fallout Obama has reached a position where he is incredibly dangerous and just may pull off the biggest political coup of American history. It is very frightening.
If Hillary Democrats remember the travesty, do not forgive the perpetrators, and remain steadfast, Obama cannot win.
I do, I won’t and I will!
The truth is, his boost of 7 points should be even BIGGER, given that this was supposed to be the Democrats’ year.
That it is so small should be worrisome to the DNC.
It wasn’t so much of a bump as a belch