Obama Tiene Un Problema Muy Grande
By Charles Lemos on June 12, 2008 at 10:25 AM in Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Hispanic vote, Latinos
The Congress-watcher news magazine The Hill writes this week that:
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) must commit to helping illegal immigrants achieve citizenship or else risk losing the vital Latino vote in the general election, Hispanic Democratic lawmakers are warning.
If he does not promise so-called comprehensive immigration reform, the lawmakers say, the only other way to win over Hispanic supporters of his erstwhile rival, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.), may be to pick her as his running mate.
While I think that’s true, the problem for Obama with Hispanics goes deeper than that and again it comes to down those pesky values which I keep on referencing. That Obama is likely to carry the Hispanic vote I do not doubt. It is the narrower margin by which he will do so that should give the Democratic leadership pause.
Here’s the crux of Obama’s problema muy grande:
While Obama won the Latino vote in his home state of Illinois and in Colorado, and stayed competitive in New Mexico and Arizona, he was walloped among Latinos ? 64 percent to 24 ? throughout the 24 contests making up Super Tuesday. In California, Clinton won over Latinos 67 percent to 29.
Latino voters comprised 30 percent of California Democratic primary voters, an increase of 17 percent from 2004. In Texas, the number of Latinos voting in the Democratic primary rose 8 percent, to 32 percent of the electorate, according to the Pew Hispanic Center.
In the Florida Republican primary, where Latinos made up 12 percent of the total vote and where McCain edged out Romney by only 4 percentage points, the Arizona senator won 54 percent of the Latino vote compared to Romney?s 14 percent. And many Republicans remember that it was in 2004 when 40 percent of Latino voters abandoned the Democratic presidential nominee, Sen. John Kerry (Mass.), to vote for President Bush, Munoz said.
Here is an overview of the states with the largest Hispanic population in the United States. Some of these are firmly in the McCain camp, others firmly in the Obama camp but a few are swing states. The swing states with large Hispanic populations are Colorado, Florida, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Virginia.
Arizona
Arizona’s Hispanic population is the sixth-largest in the nation. Nearly 1.8 million Hispanics reside in Arizona, 4% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 673,000 eligible Hispanic voters in Arizona, 4% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. McCain wins his home state.
California
California’s Hispanic population is the largest of any state in the nation. More than 13 million Hispanics reside in California, 30% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are over 5 million eligible Hispanic voters in California, 28% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. Polls right now are trending Obama’s way in California. Still most Hispanics here in the state have yet to focus on Obama. In the California primary, all they needed to know was that Hillary Clinton was Bill’s wife and that she was on the ballot. That may provide an opportunity for McCain to tag Obama as being out of touch with Hispanic values and Hispanics in California in a recent Field Poll had a 65% favourable view of McCain. Again his stance on immigration helps. Still I doubt McCain will win a plurality of Hispanic voters in California but he doesn’t have to, he only has to eat into the margin to make California competitive.
Colorado
Colorado’s Hispanic population is eighth-largest in the nation. More than 927,000 Hispanics reside in Colorado, 2% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are over 404,000 eligible Hispanic voters in Colorado, 2% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. Obama is aiming to make a push in Colorado. He’s likely to find support in the Denver to Boulder corridor and in liberal Aspen. Elsewhere, it looks like McCain country. Thus, the Hispanic vote should be a significant factor in Colorado come November. It is one of the swing demographics in Colorado.
District of Columbia
The District of Columbia’s Hispanic population is the 42nd largest in the nation. More than 47,000 Hispanics reside in the district, less than 0.1% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 16,000 eligible Hispanic voters in the district, less than 0.1% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. Still, it is the African-American vote that matters in DC, not Hispanics.
Florida
Hispanic voters registered as Democrats have overtaken Hispanic Republicans in Florida, signaling a trend that, if it continues, could have far-reaching implications for the 2008 election and U.S. foreign policy. Until now, the politically influential, mostly Republican Cuban-American community in Miami-Dade made Florida the only state in the country where, among Hispanics, Republicans outnumbered Democrats. The growth among Hispanic Democrats is striking. Since January 2006, when the state began identifying voters as Hispanic, Democratic registration has increased 18 percent. Hispanic Republicans grew by only 2 percent, while those choosing neither party are up 14 percent. Florida has a larger South American population than other US states. Cubans, Haitian and Colombians make up the largest communities but there are growing numbers of Venezuelans and Brazilians. Cubans, Colombians and Venezuelans may be put off by Obama’s embrace, erstwhile at times, of Hugo Chávez. Free trade is also a big issue and Obama is against it and that issue won’t sit well with Latin Americans who want to see closer economic ties between the United States and their respective homelands. Many Latin Americans in the United States actually are engaged in jobs that depend on a vibrant trade with Latin America.
Hawaii
Hawaii’s Hispanic population is the 38th largest in the nation. Approximately 100,000 Hispanics reside in Hawaii, less than 1% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 60,000 eligible Hispanic voters in Hawaii, less than 1% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. Hawaii is Obama country, he should win with ease.
Illinois
Illinois’s Hispanic population is the fifth-largest in the nation. Nearly 1.9 million Hispanics reside in Illinois, 4% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are over 708,000 eligible Hispanic voters in Illinois, 4% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters.
Maryland
Maryland’s Hispanic population is the 20th largest in the nation. More than 341,000 Hispanics reside in Maryland, 1% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 112,000 eligible Hispanic voters in Maryland, less than 1% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters.
Massachusetts
Massachusetts’s Hispanic population is the fifteenth-largest in the nation. More than 509,000 Hispanics reside in Massachusetts, 1% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 246,000 eligible Hispanic voters in Massachusetts, 1% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters.
Nevada
In Nevada, Latinos make up about 20% of the population. Hispanics make up 12% of Nevada’s eligible voters, compared with 9 percent of eligible voters nationally. The concerns on the minds of Nevada’s Hispanic voters are the same issues that the rest of the nation faces, said Luis Valera, with the Latin Chamber of Commerce of Las Vegas.
“Those folks are worried about their jobs. They’re worried about the economy. They’re worried about the health of the tourism industry. They’re worried about making sure that their kids get a good education,” he said. Where Hispanics might differ, however, is on the issue of immigration, Valera said.
“The Hispanic community is going to be a little more sensitive to the immigration issue, more so than other communities,” he said.
I also think that Hispanics, who are rather complex in their political views, will view Obama with suspicion. They do tend to favour social welfare programmes but they also espouse traditional conservative Catholic values. And there is a growing number of evangelical Hispanics who are largely citizens because their pastors are very pro-active in assisting their flock in becoming US citizens. And they vote on issues where Obama stands not a chance.
New Jersey
New Jersey’s Hispanic population is the seventh-largest in the nation. More than 1.4 million Hispanics reside in New Jersey, 3% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 588,000 eligible Hispanic voters in New Jersey, 3% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. This may be the state where the Hispanic vote has the biggest impact. If McCain can capture 45% of the Hispanic vote in New Jersey, he will in all likelihood take this blue state red. New Jersey has a large Cuban and Colombian populations. While the Cuban population votes more GOP, the Colombian population hasn’t. But Colombians have their feet in both the United States and in Colombia. Colombian-Americans were less than thrilled with Obama’s comments in neighboring Pennsylvania on the Colombian FTA and on Alvaro Uribe. So outraged were the Colombians that the Colombian government sent the first diplomatic protest note in four years to State Department complaining about Senator Obama’s remarks and demanding respect for the Colombian President. Obama’s comments implied that the Colombian government was complicit in the assassination of trade unionist and of course, he got his facts wrong. Obama alleged that over 200 trade unionists were being murdered per year and that the Uribe government was responsible. Problem was the last year where more than 200 trade unionists were killed in Colombia was 2001 and at that time Andres Pastrana was President of Colombia, not Alvaro Uribe. In 2007, the number of trade unionist murdered was 24 or 37 depending on which count you believe, the Colombian government’s or Amnesty International. In any case, Obama was far off the mark. These comments matter because in foreign affairs, precision in words really matter. Recall Obama’s comments in early June on Jerusalem when he misstated twenty years of stated US policy on Jerusalem’s status. His problem is that Obama panders to please his audience.
New Mexico
New Mexico’s Hispanic population is the ninth-largest in the nation. More than 874,000 Hispanics reside in New Mexico, 2% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 501,000 eligible Hispanic voters in New Mexico, 3% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. The same issues as mentioned in Nevada. Richardson on the ticket may put New Mexico in Obama’s column.
New York
New York’s Hispanic population is the fourth-largest in the nation. More than 3 million Hispanics reside in New York, 7% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 1.5 million eligible Hispanic voters in New York, 8% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. The Latin population in New York diverse though Puerto Ricans make up the largest percentage and they traditionally vote pocket book issues. Immigration is largely a non-issue for them since they are US citizens. Dominicans are another large group.
North Carolina
North Carolina’s Hispanic population is the 12th largest in the nation. About 595,000 Hispanics reside in North Carolina, representing 1% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 120,000 eligible Hispanic voters in North Carolina, less than 1% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. North Carolina has one of the fastest-growing Hispanic populations in the country. The question is how many are now citizens.
Pennsylvania
Pennsylvania’s Hispanic population is the 14th largest in the nation. About 522,000 Hispanics reside in Pennsylvania, 1% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 261,000 eligible Hispanic voters in Pennsylvania, about 1.5% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. While small in the grand scheme of things, Hispanics in Pennsylvania have in recent years become more politically mobilized as a result of ant-immigrant legislation passed on the local level.
Rhode Island
Rhode Island’s Hispanic population is the 35th largest in the nation. About 120,000 Hispanics reside in Rhode Island, less than 1% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 43,000 eligible Hispanic voters in Rhode Island, less than 1% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. Rhode Island is the bluest state of all. Obama should carry the state without much of a problem.
Texas
Texas’s Hispanic population is the second largest in the nation. Nearly 8.4 million Hispanics reside in Texas, 19% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 3.6 million eligible Hispanic voters in Texas, 20% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters.
Virginia
Virginia’s Hispanic population is the 16th largest in the nation. More than 466,000 Hispanics reside in Virginia, 1% of all Hispanics in the United States. There are 149,000 eligible Hispanic voters in Virginia, less than 1% of all U.S. Hispanic eligible voters. Probably not a factor in Virginia.
In the end, this is a margin game. While Clinton would no doubt carry Hispanics 2:1 overall and 3:1 in some states, Obama is going to have to compete for them with McCain, a name Hispanics recognize and a man they trust because he has stood with them on immigration. McCain should capture the 40% that voted for George W. Bush in 2004, the question is can he push that total closer to 50% and if so, Obama tiene un problema muy grande.
Note: The data used in this post is from the US Census Bureau, the Miami Herald, CNN, Pew Research and the New York Times.
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oh i think obama tiene muchos problemos con los voters. i see the so called polls coming out like wsj claiming his great numbers. i view them with the same cyncism that i do the media hype. i can count the number of sites and media sources i trust on one hand. bless talk left, the obama supporters are taking over there. so the degree and quality of converation won’t be as reliable.
Well, yes. That was a WSJ/NBC poll.
We’ve already SEEN NBC do a poll where they over-sampled African Americans in order to skew the poll in Obama’s favor.
I wouldn’t trust an NBC poll again, ever.
Wait until SUSA does them, and then the numbers will be more reliable.
McCain/Kennedy Immigration bill will be McCain’s ticket to the Hispanic vote. How can Democrats possibly attack McCain on this issue when he risked his political life to co-sponsor a bill with Obama’s most senior Democratic supporter Ted Kennedy? What has Obama done?
Mccaain backed off his immigration bill and said he would not vote for it.
Meh. He took more of a stand than Obama ever will for anything.
Shouldn’t the title be “Obama tiene una problema muy grande” rather than “un problema?”
/nit
and yeah, the Latino vote is going to be interesting to watch.
“Problema” is a masculine noun, therefore “un problema” is correct.
There are quite a few masculine nouns that end with -ma: el problema, el programa, el idioma, el sistema, el clima. etc. These are words that Latin borrowed from the Greek and came down into Spanish.
Obama does not get my vote. Period!
Sorry Sen. Clinton.
Debunking smears: Obama’s Birth Certificate, from Honolulu, Hawaii (which, as you may not have heard, is indeed in the US).
http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg
Laser printers existed in 1961? I desire to see the original or a copy of the original.
wow..I was thinking the same thing.
He is such a joke.
I could buy one of those and put it right beside my drivers licence from Antarctica.
Sorry. Orange Kool-Aid gives me verbal diarrhea.
From what I read it is about the age of his mother at the time of birth since the other parent is not a citzens is the cause of disqualification to be president
WRONG! ANY baby born in the United States, regardless of the nationality of his parents, the age of his parents, or even the legal status of his parents, is an American citizen BY BIRTH! The ONLY reason that Obama’s citizenship might be questioned was if he were born in Hawaii prior to Hawaii becoming a state. Since Hawaii became a state in 1959, there are apparently a few conspiracy nuts out there who want to believe that Obama was actually born in Hawaii prior to the 1961 date in all of Obama’s records–and prior to Hawaii becoming a state! The problem with this line of thinking is that the other dates relating to Obama’s mother fall apart. In particular, the Dunham family did not move back to Hawaii until 1960 so even if his mother got knocked up immediately upon meeting the elder Obama, Barack Obama’s birth would STILL have occurred AFTER Hawaii was already a state! All these other arguments about his mother’s age or her status as an American citizen are asinine. As much as you may hate it, even babies of illegal immigrants born on American soil are American citizens by birth.
And for anyone who really questions the concept that a baby born on American soil is necessarily an American citizen by birth, then try to explain WHY the ONLY document required to prove American citizenship is and has always been one’s BIRTH CERTIFICATE that shows that he/she was born in the UNITED STATES!
Well, no. Obama is a citizen by right of his mother’s citizenship.
But what the trolls won’t tell you is that at the time of her marriage to Obama’s father, his mother DID NOT KNOW that he was already married to an African woman in Kenya, with other children. Obama’s father didn’t tell her that.
By US law, her marriage to Obama’s father was not legal, since it was basically, bigamy.
THAT is why Obama’s mother divorced his Dad when he was 2, but she didn’t tell him that so he could think positively about his own father.
Obama didn’t find that out until he in his 20’s, after his Dad had already died and he visited Kenya. He found his Dad was NOT some great idealistic leader, but simply an unemployed alcoholic who died in a car wreck (his own fault…drunk) with 4 wives and multiple children left behind.
Obama didn’t find that out until he in his 20’s
That must have really been a dissapointment.
Where’s any indication this is a valid document?
Registrar’s signature would be a start.
I will not click on the Orange Satan, and I will leave the country before I vote for Barack Obama.
But thanks anyway.
Are you part of the new thug-squad?
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/obamas-rumor-squad-aka-thugs-for-obama/
Chief Troll Governor Richardson of NM is not liked nor is he trusted by many Hispanics. He is also of the flip flop mentality. He is a panderer of biblical proportion.
He also rules from a bully pulpit like Boosh.
No Problema with me voting for McCain! hehe
McCain has my whole familia’s vote and you know there are a lot of us…hehe
Look what a uniter Obama is turning out to be!
This is an incredible breakdown. A very compelling case.
Where is the “whitey” tape?
Please provide a copy ASAP.
All in good time. Boy, you young folks can`t wait for anything.
I think Obama is hiding it behind one of his ears.
so I guess noquarter is ignoring obamas 62-28 lead amonghispanics in the latest wsj poll
No called me or my family.
Polls? Give me a break!
No Called me or my Family
Polls? Give me a break!!
Polls that I have seen are more in 60 to 40 range and vary by state and if you read the conclusion to the piece, I do not dispute that Obama will win most Hispanics. I am arguing that his margin will be narrower than Democrats generally received. It’s a margin call.
so, the commenter posts a link to a poll and you reply with “polls i have seen?” that’s a bit hard to swallow.
I’ll be happy to provide them. Let me look them up.
It is all about the margins. If Obama does the same or worse than Kerry did in 2004, then he has a real problem. He would still win the hispanic vote battle, but lose the war for the Presidency.
Obama has the Democratic base defecting all over the place. He will have to see if he can register new african americans, latte liberals, and students, because it seems the women, Latinos, working class people, and gays are jumping ship fast.
Well,
Kerry won Hispanics 53-44
Clinton won Hipanics 62-21 in 1996
Clinton won Hispanics61-25 in 1992
I fail to see how winning 60% of the hispanic vote, at this point in the election, is a problem for Obama.
You operate under the assumption Barack can get the votes Clinton got.
Must be why you downplayed the importance of the primaries, the majority of which you lost.
Every recent poll shows Obama over 60% in the Hispanic vote over McCain.
Every one.
Lost majority of primaries?
What kind of backwards world are you living in.
Obama won 21/41 Primaries
He did not win the Hispanic vote in primaries, in fact he was clobbered. Bush got 44% of Latino vote. McCain is more acceptable to Latinos than Bush ergo Obama has a problem.
Obama would need to get over 60% of the Latino vote to win even IF he was able to hold 1/2 of the white, female vote. He is unlikely to be able to hold 1/2 of the white, female vote….so he is actually going to need to… Wait if he can’t hold half of the white, female vote there’s almost nothing he can do to win.
Interesting arithmetic that you have there, considering that Clinton won 21 primaries, if Michigan and Florida are counted, which is the ONLY way that I can see for even counting 40 primaries. Exactly what are you counting as Obama “primary victories” and what are you counting as “primaries”? It would seem that you are counting some caucuses as primaries to arrive at 41 primaries when only 40 have been conducted, which includes Florida and Michigan!
But then, I do not expect Obamabots to be able to “add” since so many of you have talked about “remaking” the electoral map and managing to win the general election without needing either Ohio or Florida, not to mention not needing voters like me. I would find such enumeracy from you people amusing if it were not for the fact that I do NOT want to see McBush win, which is where we are headed if Obama continues to have a problem with Appalachia and if you people continue to believe that Obama “victories” in states like Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, and Mississippi will actually translate into “victories” in those states in the general election. Believing that Obama can “win” in solidly Republican states like Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, and Mississippi is really delusional–it is even MORE delusional than McBush people believing that McBush can win in California!
The data point is that Obama is running behind among Hispanics who are Democratic voters. So as of now he is not matching where Kerry and others were.
The over issue you have raised Charles Lemos, is that Obama will be required to expend time and resources courting Hispanic voters, who for what ever reason one would choose to advance, which would not be the case if Senator Clinton were the nominee. It must be noted that Hispanic voters are not a monolithic voting block as has been witnessed in the AA community.
I am bemused that Dean and the DNC takes for granted the Hispanic vote and vote-jacked the AA’s predilections while not considering the bigger picture demographically.
Not that it is a skill the DNC ever had but they made a choice to dis-enfranchise Florida, others in the Hispanic community will take note of that fact and vote accordingly. Obama and the DNC are cruising for a bruising.
I am from Texas, and a long-time political activist from San Antonio, with many friends in CA. I strongly do NOT think that Hispanics are going to end up voting for BO over McCain. I am a Progressive Hillary supporter, and most people that I know will either not vote or those who have family members, loved ones and friends in the military, will vote for McCain. As I said previously, we fought UNITY all this weekend at our Tx Convention. Here is the argument against Obama from a Mex/Am perspective:
1. We do NOT know BO, NO relationship w/him like the Clintons. And, what he do know– he’s scary to Latinos–his friends make him scary; i.e., Wright, Farrakhan, Pfleger, Ayers, which put him in an anti-patriotic light;
2. Hispanics, specifically, Mex/Am are highly patriotic, and again between military family and Obama and Michelle’s anti-patriotic friends and rants — they are viewed susupiciously. Look up the stats on Latinos, especially Mex/Am in Texas–the most Puple Hearts of any ethnic group.
3. VERY IMPORTANT: the Clintons have a long history and RELATIONSHIP w/Hispanics, that will NOT be broken with BO. That is plain and simple. Richardson has only complicated matters, and after 40 years of loving Kennedys. Ted was NOT received with open-arms. We closed the door on him. NEVER to Bill Clinton.
4. We are a Matriarchal culture — meaning ALL of the dis’ing from BO, his surrogates, including the MSM, is a continual factor that turns off Hispanics on a daily basis. BO ran VICIOUS anti-Hillary Spanish-language ads on t.v. and radio, filled with lies and innuendo, and that REALLY pissed more people off. You do NOT dis a woman like BO has and still does — HUGE NO-NO. When BO dis’d Hillary, many believe it is like dis’ing our mother, sister, friend, grandma, sister, comadre. I’ve seen way too many altars with the Hillary next to the Virgen de Guadalupe. She is truly a phenomenon in S.A., and L.A.
5. BO is a turn-off to us Hispanic women–watch out there, there are more of us registered voters than the men. Some men are open to BO, very few women.
Sorry, BO, if Hillary keeps getting dis’d at the regular rate that she does, not even VP will cut it. I will bet LOTS OF MONEY on Hispanics and McCain if Hillary is not the Prez. nominee in August. And, you can take that to the bank.
NOBAMA, NEVER!
Historically, a Democrat should get about 80% of the Hispanic vote. These numbers are comparable to George W. Bush’s 2000 exit polls, when Bush was making inroads into the community.
That’s simply false. A Democrat has NEVER won 80% of the hispanic vote in a Presidential election.
That is a LIE, FALSE, and highly inaccurate. As a Hispanic Political Scientist — that is absolutely wrong. Stop spreading those lies. Bush fared better than Kerry, especially among Mex/Am, pro-life Catholics.
The future of America’s vote is with hispanic American constituents.
The future is now.
McCain’s own position to allow them a voice in the body politic is another reason Dubya surpassed him, aside fromt he race bainting he did in southern states.
Now America is catching up to this notion, McCain’s actually been a leader there.
Hillary is ahead of him on this topic, the idea that the primary winner isn’t the ticket top is allowing the strategic future of the hispanic vote to be compromised.
This Obama’s primary remarks coming back to haunt him. He ran to the left of Clinton on foreign policy, and he scared off the moderates. He ran to the right of her on healthcare to attract white male voters, and he pissed off the lifelong Democrats. He went around on the stump bashing NAFTA, and Latinos know that’s code for “We hate Messico.” It’s like bitching about AIPAC in a room full of Jews.
Obama is ahead in New Jersey–by a hair. Now, why on earth would New Jersey suddenly become a “swing state”? It’s been solidly blue for a long time.
Maybe it’s the Hispanic voters who are tilting the balance?
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/06/12/quinnipiac_obama_ahead_in_new_jersey.html
Though I live out of state now, New Jersey is where I was born. It is a blue state, Democratic territory. Until now. Maybe the Obamatrons forgot that people “did” pay attention to this primary. The line that: once people get to know Senator Obama, they’ll fall in love? What a crock! The reverse is true.
I’ve already had several calls from home, friends and family who want to know if I’ve joined the Church of Obama. New Jersey residents I know are repulsed by the long months of Hillary bashing. I had one friend say he wouldn’t pull the lever for Obama if they put a gun to his head. My friend Joey tends to exaggerate, but it gives you a sense of a typical working man’s position. There’s no way he or his family or friends will be won back.
You reap what you sow.
New Jersey a swing state. Incredible!
I’m seeing the same thing down here in Texas, Peggy Sue.
When you hear Obama trolls and pundits say Texas is a “possible,” just laugh out loud.
Not in a million years. They’ll come out in DROVES to vote against Obama in November.
I have relatives in Missouri, too. Same thing there. He doesn’t have a chance in hell of winning Missouri.
Viva Hillary!
http://www.hcsfjm.com/grfm.html
On July 4, 2008, we want at least 1 million Hillary Clinton supporters to send John McCain $5.44. This is a small amount for all of us and we can send it easy. If we can get 1 million people to donate this amount, then we will have sent the Democrat Party a signal they cannot ignore.
With at least one million people doing this, the DNP will suddenly realize that they have to change or lose. Don’t worry about the media, the McCain people will let them know that we have set a new 1 day record for the most money ever received.
Now get out there and blog to the whole world what we are doing. It is now up to us to make this happen and we can and we will,
Please Repost This On Everywhere!!!
I don’t know about this one. Hillary still has debt to pay off. I’d rather help her than pay McCain just yet. I’ll start donating to him after Denver. Until then, my own personal donations go to Hillary.
Sugar…..don’t send HIllary money. She is working it out to her advantage.
If you’re a reader, check out the article on Real Clear Politics.
She may not only pay down the debt but come out with a sizeable amount to increase her clout in the party.
So do not fret.
And Obama was lusting after her fundraisers.
For all the hype about his money, everyone knows she’s a fabulous fund-raiser.
I’m reading that a number of Hillary’s big Jewish fundraisers are moving to McCain.
Thank you for pointing that out, Sugar.
While I said upthread that I’d leave the country before I’d vote for BO, I forgot to add that I felt the same way about John McCain.
Sugar, I’ve donated (more) money to Hillary to help her pay off her debt. I’ve done a lot of research as to what happens to the money she’s loaned her campaign and what happens to her debts. Campaign law limits to $250,000 the amount a campaign committee can repay the candidate after the election. In the case of the Democratic primary, the election will end when a nominee is selected in Denver. So unless Clinton is able to raise enough money to pay herself back by then, she’ll have to write off millions of dollars she lent to her campaign.
I don’t know if the rumors are true that Obama has offered to help, but in no way do I want her beholden to him. I think we need to help her out before August 30 in case she is not the nominee.
I don’t care what the polls say, I will not vote for Obama. One thing about Hispanics is that we are loyal, unlike the traitor Richardson, whom we don’t trust. Oh, by the way “Yes we can” was started by Ceasar Chavez, “Si Se Puede”. So Obama, buena suerte, porque tienes un problema muy grande.
Absolutely. Loyalty and respect–our 2 values that Hillary encompasses — NOT BO!
Okay folks.
What is the point of this site? Are you McCain voters or anti Obama voters?
What do you want to happen?
I am very confused. How can McCain be better than Obama?
“What do you want to happen?
I am very confused.”
You truly are confused. Either that or you can’t read. We want Hillary as the 44th president or John McCain. Period. Obama doesn’t know what in the fugg he’s doing and we are supposed to hand him the codes to the nuclear weapons arsenal we’ve got? I don’t think so!
I am very confused…. We know you are.
We are mostly pro-Hillary supporters who are disgusted with our party.
I think the term is disaffected Democrats.
Hope that clarifies it for you.
Nah I think the term is more like lying Republican trolls pretending to be disaffected Democrats.
If there’s so many of you, why don’t the polls show it?
Why did the polls say Obama was going to have a big win in New Hampshire?
The only poll that counts is the one in November. Then, you’ll know for sure!
Dan do not come here anymore it is clear that you do not belong on our site and that it frustrates you to read our posts…We hate nobama and will not vote for him. It’s really quite simple..this is not the place for you sweetie.
Slap that unitty pony on the butt ONE MORE TIME..on national TV no less.
Ug…Dan stick to what you know. OK?
Don’t confuse individuals expressing principled opinions for being based on party affiliation.
I am an American, critize me for that ok?
PUMA CATS!
Obama has trashed every principle the Democratic party stands for:
He used race-baiting in every state with high percentages off AAs to get their support.
He used voter fraud and intimidation in caucuses.
He used voter suppression through colusion with the media, promoting false polls weighted towards his supporters, circulating stories that Clinton was dropping out.
He used mysogyny to minimize Hillary Clinton.
He blocked re-votes in FL and MI. Why does he hate Democracy?
Now, the winner of the popular vote is not going to be nominated, because a committee of 30 people(RBC) decided to hand him the nomination with delegates that he did not earn.
Our Democracy is on fire right now, and it is Obama campaign and the DNC who are torching it.
A vote against Obama is a vote to take the party back to its true principles. If we don’t do it, there will not be a party that represents working class people, just the elites.
Actually, it was only 19 people who decided to hand him the nomination. The other 8 did not.
19 bastards.
Sorry, but I won’t vote for a stinking pile of poop just because he has a big “D” next to his name. It’s called having principals, something the Obamislamists lack.
A vote for McCain is a vote against Obama, and McCain knows that. He even put out an ad with ABBA’s “Take a Chance On Me.” If you change your mind, I’m the first in line… Hillary can’t say so, but Savage Politics had an article explaining the rationale.
I wrote this last night and then this morning looking at my RSS feeds, I found this from New York’s El Diario Spanish language newspaper:
UPDATE June 12, 2008
Y hablando de problemas grandes, que les parece este artículo en El Diario? For my English readership, El Diario is the nation’s largest Spanish-language daily and it is reporting today that Latino immigration activists are up in arms over the involvement of New York state legislator Jon Cooper of Suffolk County, New York in the Obama campaign. Cooper, Obama’s chairperson for Long Island, is sponsoring bill IR1479, which would create an 18-month pilot program to mandate any contractor with a county contract to verify their workers’ legal status using the federal e-verify system. That has New York Hispanic community rather annoyed and now rather annoyed at Obama.
Jon Cooper Backs Obama
Interesting. So far Obama is carrying NY by a huge margin.
Think this will make a difference?
Yes and no. Some Hispanics activist won’t engage fully in the Obama campaign so that might dampen turnout. The other is that it might force Obama to spend more resources than necessary especially in New Jersey and that hinders his abilities elsewhere. Obama should carry NY, NJ will be a sqweaker and it shouldn’t be.
OK…..makes sense. Thanks.
I’m thinking the same may be true in CA. I’m not sure the Latino politicians will pull out the stops, and if they don’t….then it will be a case of voter-stay-home.
But I’m also expecting Obama to make the right noises.
So he’d split the vote. Older Latinos…..no way. They will go McCain. If Obama could rally the younger voters (and I don’t think he can), they’d go with him.
So I see the Latino youth staying home. Older voters going for McCain.
And McCain will lose by a squeaker here, too.
What do you think?
CA is more up for grabs than NY. Watch the McCain presentation on his website. You’ll notice the electoral math favors Clinton, but Obama has problems. They’re leaning toward Webb as a VP, hoping Obama can reach out to Appalachian and southern voters that way. Ha ha.
Webb has had 3 wives and a colorful life I do not think he is a good option for the people in Appalachia along with Nobama.He lacks experience also. but hey they should go for it..