Bad Denver, Bogarting Bills and Benjamins, Some Poll Trends
By LisaB on June 17, 2008 at 9:30 PM in Barack Obama, Chicago politics, Current Affairs, DNC, Democratic National Convention, Democratic Party, Democrats, Hillary Clinton, Housing Crisis, Howard Dean, denver
1) Proteinwisdom looks over Barack Obama’s senate record and finds it less inspiring than his rhetoric. But as to that rhetoric, proteinwisdom mentions that lots of THAT was cribbed from Gov. Deval Patrick of Massachusetts.
SusanUnPC covered that here at NQ as well, but it bears repeating.
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Proteinwisdom reminds us that during Obama’s state senate tenure:
Though Obama served in the Illinois Senate for seven years, he built his entire legislative record in Illinois in a single year, when Illinois Senate Majority Leader Emil Jones appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation, angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills.
The WaPo told a similar story in March, 2008:
Just this week, as the financial markets were roiling in the wake of the Bear Stearns collapse, Obama made another claim that was greeted with disbelief in some corners of Capitol Hill. On March 13, Dodd, the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, and Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, unveiled legislative proposals to allow the Federal Housing Administration to guarantee new loans from banks willing to help homeowners in or approaching foreclosure. Obama and Clinton were in Washington for a day-long round of budget voting, but neither appeared at the housing news conference.
Yet Obama on Monday appeared to seek top billing on Dodd’s proposal.
“At this moment, we must come together and act to address the housing crisis that set this downturn in motion and continues to eat away at the public’s confidence in the market,” Obama said. “We should pass the legislation I put forward with my colleague Chris Dodd to create meaningful incentives for lenders to buy or refinance existing mortgages so that Americans facing foreclosure can keep their homes.”
2) Also, at The Atlantic, Marc Ambinder looks at several recent polls and finds some trends:
*McCain does better w/repubs than Obama w/dems
*Independents are split almost evenly between McCain and Obama
*McCain’s support may not be as enthusiastic as Obama’s
*The traditional democratic issue of the economy isn’t working for Obama
*Obama is is a good position to do better.
3) John Podhoretz, discussing the disasterous Obama interview with ABC’s Jake Tapper, says Obama makes mistake after mistake when off the teleprompter. While he is masterful at delivering a prepared speech with the prompter, he gets into trouble one-on-one. Think he’ll agree to any townhall debates soon?
NQ covered this same interview today in “ABC News: ‘Danger Signs’ for Obama”
4) At realclearpolitics, an AP report says the DNC plans to sue to compel federal investigators to look at the McCain campaign. The DNC contends the McCain campaign violated election finance law.
Oh jeez. More election lawyering. Just what we all want. . .
5) And from the “holy crap” department: at JohnMcCain.com, they have video of the Obamoids booooing the mention of Hillary just before the Gorical bestowed his blessings on the chosen one.
Back at ya, Obamoids.
6) USAToday has a piece about the ongoing budgetary crisis at the DNC, where some events are being cut to save cash and in the hope Obama’s donors will pony up more money.
Interestingly, or not, organizers blame the long primary season for the lack of corporate enthusiasm. They say that because there was no clear nominee early enough, would-be support was tepid. Organizers also say Denver isn’t quite the corporate center as, say, Boston is.
“Without a doubt, there was tentativeness on the part of a lot of major companies because they didn’t know who the nominee was going to be,” Ridder said. “And frankly, Denver is not a major corporate center. Many of the corporations who contributed to Boston (site of the party’s 2004 convention) just haven’t seen advantages to coming here.”
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Denver was awarded the convention in January 2007 despite lingering questions over whether the city would be able to pull together the necessary financing. At the time, DNC Chairman Howard Dean set those concerns aside, noting that Colorado and other states in the mountain West were becoming fertile electoral territory for Democrats.
Oooooooh. Where’s the money? If it’s Obama’s party, why doesn’t he pony up? He has been a fund raising maniac, by all accounts. Just don’t blame a long running primary or the host city for not being attractive enough. That’s just “sour grapes.”
7) At the NY Daily News is a story about a joint fund raising event later this week where Hillary will try to persuade her donors to throw good money after a bad candidate in Obama.
“They’re trying to do the right thing,” said one Clinton supporter, referring to the Clintons plans to help Obama. “Whether they’re ecstatic about it or not, I don’t know.”
I’d love to be a fly on the wall at THAT fundraiser. Obama probably hopes he won’t find what he calls the usual Hillary supporters - you know - the racist, low information dead enders. Or the jerks who flash the finger as they get out their checkbooks. . .
This is a fantastic summary. What we’ve all been waiting for…where were these SOB’s when it mattered? We’ve been screaming this stuff from the rough tops. Ahh, back to his old tricks of suing his opponent for voter fraud, good one. I am so sick of his bullshit. Thanks for the awesome roundup. Makes my heart warm.
Booing is always good for prodding Clinton supporters to open their wallets for B.O.
Yup, sure encourages me to send money and vote for the Dem Fraud…
Boo Hiss NOBAMA!
I agree..this is a very good read. I like reading all of the headlines in one place. Great job!!
Obama shows his affinity for more socialism by endorsing “comparable worth,” a truly bad idea. In case you don’t know what comparable worth is, it’s an idea concocted by feminists in the 1970s or early 1980s. They said that jobs typically held by women pay less than jobs typically held by men.
To eliminate this inequity, somebody–the courts, maybe, or some administrative agency, presumably with appeals to the courts–should decide what those jobs were really worth, based on some sort of convoluted criteria. So that it could be possible to prove that secretaries were of comparable worth to truck drivers and should be paid the same wages.
Comparable worth would subject the private-sector economy to the equivalent of the federal civil service system. Bureaucrats would have to classify every job, with their classifications subject to administrative and judicial review.
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaCampaign.htm
this is why I say he’s a blending of capitalist marxist fascism baby
its a new scary political ideal..hope its not contagious
This is pure crap.
Men get paid more because they have a penis — and supposedly “support” a family.
In WA State — Males working on boiler in the State hospitals go way more money than the nurses — a typically female occupation.
Female occupations get paid significantly less then male dominated occupations.
But if it is snObama thinking this is a good idea — he probably thinks that none white males get paid less than white males. He probably has no idea of what is involved — or the huge pay inequity that women have faced ever since they entered the work force.
Do a bit of research before jumping on board the conservative sexist band-wagon.
This has nothing to do with Socialism - it has to do with fair pay for women for equal work.
Sexism is alive and well — and women are the new target of hate.
Thank you, you put it very well. Sexism is alive and well and flourishing as is pay inequity.
north west, people have been asking about you, miss you have you found Blue’s place yet?
Just read the obama file. That’s a lot of good information. I can’t believe Biden and Dodd (and Edwards) endorsed him. Their opinion of his experience has improved, greatly, since 2007. Amazing, since the only thing he’s accomplished is to run for Prez.
With two months to go before the convention this is very bad news for Obama. Its a good thing Hillary is hanging on to her delegates.
AND THE WINNER IS ….. David Axelrod, Obama’s campaign strategist, The same creator of a former South-Side Chicagoan, Deval Patrick, the governor of Massachusetts A campaign of CHANGE and HOPE..including the verbatim speeches of Deval Patrick. Obama’s strategy is the same-old, recycled and passed-on platform of the Patrick campaign. Massachusetts Democrats were all excited about this “Different” candidate, this “Historic” candidate, this candidate that was going to “Change” things. His rhetoric soared. He asked people to “Believe”. He eluded to people like JFK, RFK and MLK as if he and his “Words” belonged in in their league. Deval Patrick made plenty of Hope-y Change-y promises and the people of Massachusetts fell for it. They were going to get a new kind of leader, a different kind of politics. What they got instead was a wimp who caved in on every single issue he promised to address…. No surprise to anybody who sees through catchy, mesmerizing rhetoric with precious few details, Deval Patrick is a dismal disappointment to Massachusetts. His flowery speeches and promises have turned out to be Just Words as, issue by issue, Patrick has proven to be either a coward, a liar or inept….(BG).. Fool Me Once Shame on You….Fool Me Twice Shame on Me.
Now Massachusetts doesn’t have a governor. They only have one who thinks he is.
What was revealed when Obama used the words of Deval Patrick was not plagiarism.
It was that their scripts and speeches sprang forth from a common source:
David Axelrod.
Why does change always lead us back to the same old manipulations?
AS THE SAYING GOES, IF YOU DON’T STAND FOR SOMETHING, YOU’LL FALL FOR ANYTHING.
Right on the money! Wanna see an Obamabot’s head explode? Ask them why Obama lost Massachusetts by such a large margin. A state made for him to win. With Kennedy, Kerry and the Gov supporting him! Are we ignorant? don’t think so, MA has the highest level of education attainment in the nation. Bible-thumpers? No- least amount of weekly religious service attendance. Cling to our guns? Sh*t, only the police and criminals are well armed here. It’s illegal for me to even buy or own a can of MACE without an FID card.
He lost because it was all an Axelrod repeat for us. Been there, done that. Fell for it once. No thank you. “Yes You Can” turned in to “Curtains, a Caddy, and Casinos.”
Nice line, tuppence.
I think David Axelrod should pony up to the DNC … he must be making a nice chunk of change as Obama’s Guru. Let him pay the confetti bill in Denver. No money from this Democrat. No Democrat gets this Democrat’s vote. My vote goes against the DNC and Obama, as well as all candidates who endorsed Barack Obama. Obama, sweetie, payback’s a bitch.
Present!
They have no shame. Openly soliciting “corporate” sponsorships, corporate money.
I hope Hillary called all her big donors to give them a heads up….”whatever I say at that joint meeting…I’M JUST KIDDING! DO NOT DONATE TO THEM!”
NO freakin’ WAY would I encourage MY donors to donate to that slimeball.
Hillary’s a RACIST. Why would BO and the DNC want money from a RACIST’S donors?
Obamas hates Hillary. But now they are trying to use her clout? After they made fun of her not having enough money?
It looks like the entire party has been strong armed to back this loser Obama.
http://www.usawakeup.org/
if they don’t have the money now, then when and where are the going to get it? obama’s small donors are maxed out. the corporations will throw a penny here and there, but denver? hmm, it sounds like an excuse called “i have a cold and can’t go out tonight.” sorry barry, but you have just been stood up. they’ll throw their money at whom they think will win, and i am wondering what they really think.
But why would Obama want money from a bunch of bible-clinging, gun-hugging, racists?
I mean according to the DNC he’s got bags ‘o money.
They don’t need Hillary supporters? Right? Since we’re dead enders and all why would they need Hillary to appear with him? Why would they brag about that? To rub it in our faces? To gloat further?
It’s more like: ha, ha we made her grovel and support him. We won. But it’s not November yet. And no one has to grovel in the voting booth.
Obama has refused to appear at Town Hall meetings. The media, which has never given Obama a free ride say were stacked with McCain supporters. What if they were? Can’t the Hope and Change candidate overcome that? After all, he’s the answer to our prayers.
I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall of that secret Thursday meeting between Obama and Hillary.
I have a feeling that Hillary was probably threatened.
To me there was just something different that Saturday. More different than her having to get behind Obama.
Heh.
And you think Hillary would be afraid of that cretin?
What happens when you can see right through the POS?
Ya know, threats only work on pussies.
i was hoping she went in wired….
yeah i am sure if they had antyhing they used it
they might want to further try to tarnish Bills legacy which she would try to protect…
I think that is a big factor for her in not leaving the party….
frakkers
wired for sound that is, not wired like Barry used to get in the good ole days according to his novels….
Yes. See the speech again at hillaryspeaksforme dot com and see how angry she is when she says his name. See her eyes change. She is talking just like she did when in Ohio about the Obama mass mailer misrepresentation her.
It’s about the 7th video.
It is clear in hindsight that some of the major pipelines for Democratic dollars were being manipulated by Pelosi, Dean, Brazille, Kennedy, Kerry to finance Obama’s campaign. The urgency for Hillary to leave the race was never about policy, positions, delegates or common sense. That rush to get her to quit was the realization that if the primaries continued as “real contests” Obama would continue to need “real” money to be competitive. That would take the money that would otherwise have gone to the DNC and to the Denver convention. If the DNC had not decided who the nominee had to be (anyone but Hillary), things could simply have taken their natural course. But when the end had been decided as Obama, probably with Iowa and certainly no later than Super Tuesday, then making that outcome happen became the center of attention, energy and funding. When Hillary insisted on playing it out to the end and making it a real contest, she interfered with some major plans. It is also clear that the decision to centralize the DNC and Obama presidential campaign was made probably around the Super Tuesday time frame. That is the only way one can explain the DNC/Obama merger that completed so quickly last week—such a merger could only have been completed rapidly if the planning for it preceded the act by 4-6 months. The interplay between the Obama campaign and the DNC for the last 4-6 months is something every Clinton Democrat (and maybe even some non-Clinton Dems with the real conscience of a liberal) would love to know in facts. But the blowback of all that manipulation, hoodwinking and bamboozling is a big deficit for the Democratic convention. Will that make a difference? Will anyone care about the Obama coronation event repeat?
didnt we see here yesterday the Chicago HQ where these DNC employees are going is 33000 sf and purchased by Uhhbama camp as early as early 07?
yeah the fix was in clearly
do they think we cant read a calendar or what?!
I didnt think about them funneling the dccc dscc dnc money to Uhhbama…
it would explain a lot, I would be WICKED PIXXED if I was a downticket Dem boy..they are gonna get SO ROYALLY screwed, no money coming from the party for support, a huge drag on the ticket from Congress’ shxtty record under Pelosi and Reid 18% approval??
and the HUGE DRAG that will be Uhhbama like an anchor to the drowining SDs facing outraged moderate Dems and GOP ad blitzes
well, if they didnt support the candidate who represented their peoples needs, which in my case was so clearly Hillary, then they need to get the boot..
It’s on you tube that Hillary was saying she found it curious that they kept trying to get her to quit. She said it was unprecedented and she didn’t understand it.
It’s the you tube of the RFK reference.
Well the reason is clear now why they kept telling her to quit. They had already selected him long ago (Rendell knew that during the PA primaries). And BO had already selected Solis-Doyle the week when she got fired. Google and find the article of when Obama had planned to hire mole Doyle. It was written in February. ‘Don’t know if it’s still around. Maybe I saw it in Washington Post or NYT.
The thing is though, they never planned for Obama losing the GE. Most Americans simply won’t vote for him.
He’s never won an election and now he wants to boot out McCain? Unbelievable.
Soros has been busy. He should foot the DNC bill since it’s his game.
jangles… excellent points.
I believe the coronation of Obama was decided by the Dean/Brazile Cabal in the DNC as far back as 2004.
The punishment of FL and MI — two states polling strongly for Hillary — is proof for me.
Because Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina had also pushed up their primary dates yet were not stripped of delegates.
These 3 states were given a DNC waiver.
But FL and MI? No waiver.
No one has ever explained that to me.
Why did Iowa, New Hampshire & South Carolina get waivers for doing exactly the same thing as FL and MI?
I come to one conclusion:
The Dean/Brazile Cabal stripped dlegates from two large states that would clearly give Hillary a delegate lead early in the primary. This lead would give Hillary momentum.
Dean/Brazile believed Obams would win Iowa, New Hampshire and S. Carolina.
That’s why those states got waivers.
That’s also why Hillary’s win in NH was such a shock to the Obama camp. It skewed the enire plan outlined years before for an Obama win.
But I believe the FIX was in as far back as 2004. No one can tell me otherwise.
And this manipulation of blocking votes in pro-Hillary states is called gerrymandering.
The oldest dirty political trick in the book.
It is the reason why I am dedciated to sabotaging Obama’s candidacy.
He is Dean and Brazile’s Manhurian candidate.
And he will be stopped.
I hope so. We can’t afford a repeat of “the idiot in the White House” which would happen if Barry won.
McCain for me unless Hillary is the nominee
gee HoDean wanted to have the convention in the growing mountain west eh?
mountain west, hmmn, where have I heard that before?
OH YEAH!! Uhhbamas whole strategy for the GE, winning the mountain west, but it wasnt fixed nah…
and we are all SHOCKED that they are gambling in Rick’s Place
shocked we say!!
AGAIN they seem to be PROJECTING a bit much? asking for a look into mccain campaign financing, try turning the microscope on the foreign funds and laundered donations we suspect in camp Uhhbamaland…
while youre there, look for his state senate records his birth certificate, his school enrollment records and is university grades will ya?
Don’t forget his passport - which he had stolen with the others - to cover up that he doesn’t want it seen. Why would that be? Think ODM. His cous is soon to arrive - genocidal maniac welcome to US to bargain for more trade with Kenya and other spooky relations with the Sharif signed on PM Odinga.
ONLY REPORT - that Odinga is even coming here is in 1 Brit in-the-bag paper, issuing its advance bs about how he has no “formal meetings” planned with obama.
Connect the dots….Richardson recently sent for cozy meet with Chavez… Chavez now meeting with Castro…Castro now in joint oil venture with China - just off US coast… and murderous Odinga now sanctioned as a PM - a position which he ravaged his way into…slinking into the US for high level Finance and Energy meetings with our gov’t.
Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on your perspective), the polls look fairly good for Senator Obama at this point. I trust what Poblano is doing at http://www.fivethirtyeight.com. The numbers show that Senator Obama is at around 317 electoral votes, while Senator McCain is at 220. Senator Obama has a win percentage of 67.2%. That’s not too shabby.
I would imagine that we’ll see more and more Democrats who were supporters of Senator Clinton begin throwing their support behind Senator, because I cannot imagine that a great number of them will end up voting for McCain. Many on this site will, but I don’t think that Democrats in general would be able to stomach another four years of a Republican president.
I would agree with Senator Clinton in hoping that her supporters would throw their support behind Senator Obama.
(For the record, I am not a troll, as I have been frequenting this site for a long time. I try to get as many perspectives on political issues as I possibly can. I just thought some mention should be made of the good polling data - again whether this is fortunate or unfortunate depends on ones perspective.)
Peace.
SEC
I just heard a poll today on Bloomberg that had Obama leading McCain nationally by only 4%. That is basically a dead heat. I realize the popular vote is very different from the electoral vote but I would be surprised to see that big a delta between the nationwide vote and the ev count.
You have got to be kidding. Polls. Youare going to cite polls that may “predict” the outcome of this election. Let’s take a look at one of his refrences’ Rasmussen.
Sunday, June 15, 2008
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey in Arkansas shows John McCain leading Barack Obama 48% to 39%. That’s a stunning improvement for Obama who trailed by twenty-four points a month ago. This is most likely a direct result of the former Clinton supporters accepting Obama now that he has clinched the nomination.
That “prediction” is based off of 500 likely voters. They say on their website:
This telephone survey of 500 Likely Voters was conducted by Rasmussen Reports on June 12, 2008.
They talked to 500 people and think that is enough evidence to cite an Obama lead and win in the state. You should start thinking for youself.
You have got to be kidding. Polls. Youare going to cite polls that may “predict” the outcome of this election. Let’s take a look at one of his refrences’ Rasmussen.
Friday, June 13, 2008
he latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey shows Barack Obama still holding a comfortable lead over John McCain in Oregon 46% to 38%.
That “prediction” is based off of 500 likely voters. They say on their website:
This telephone survey of 500 Likely Voters was conducted by Rasmussen Reports on June 12, 2008.
They talked to 500 people and think that is enough evidence to cite an Obama lead and win in the state. You should start thinking for youself.
He won’t win Oregon this time. The Eastern half is Republican.
I hope you’re right, Lou. I live in Oregon and my city had the largest Obama vote of the whole state. I’m talking to everyone I can and getting out the word how corrupt he is. Still the “I-5 Corridor” could actually outvote Eastern and Southern Oregon. I’m keeping my fingers crossed, but let’s face it, it will be an uphill battle…
Oregon is where the media ignored the fact that the masses assembled for ob were actually there for a whole bunch of popular rock bands who played at the riverfront park all day long.
ob was stuck in the middle of the performances and no mention was made in the press about the concerts held that day.
more obfuscation and propaganda we didn’t buy.
I love this country. Why on God’s green earth would I vote for someone who has distaste for the American people and no respect for the country?
This is the worst presidential candidate I have ever seen in my life.
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY ALWAYS
Glad you think so. It sounds like you need to get out more and talk to some real people instead of reading polls. I’m seeing over 75% won’t vote for Obama. No way.
You are full of wishful thinking and skewed polls.
The o’boy handlers need to be real careful of the game they are entering. The Republicans have been playing it much longer and are much better at it.
O’boy is an amateur and is in over his head.
When Obama lose can he assure us that William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn wont go back to their terrorist ways and blow up innocent people or building? I need some re-assurance
Found this interesting article…Deval Patrick
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/17/AR2007031701005.html
Now we know what the DNC has given us to look forward to…
Told you! Curtains, Cadillacs, and Casinos
That was the ” Change and Hope ” Deval brought to Massachusetts. Change the curtains in the office, Change the car from a Ford to a Cadillac, Hope casinos would solve our money problems. IDIOT and we passed over Christopher Gabrelli as Governor for that jackass.
Is it possible that O is not having trouble raising money? That he is stockpiling for his war chest, sucking dry the DNC. The convention will be a paltry brief vote and go home event. That by the end of August the DNC will be broken with nobody, not even Dean on the payroll. That there will be by September only the O campagin - no party, just O.
I very much doubt that. They are spending money like it was going out of stile.
They spent over half billion dollars but only reported about 235,000,000 in donations. It doesn’t add up.
Watch their strategy. Whatever they do to the opponent, they are guilty of…thus the need to see McCains funds…is a distraction from their campaign funds fraud.
BO is one big fraud.
Know Obama
No Obama
http://WWW.OBAMA-WIRE.COM
LisaB interesting points;
I think Gov. Rendell got the message, they don’t want ANYBODY, just the checks.
Arrogance and and pay to play…the ranks close, the musical chairs music is getting close to the end and the price of the chairs has gotten expensive.
Braindead but not surprising the Denver air is as thin as BO’s resume.
Sueing the RNC is flame flowing ala Rove. This is because some more shit is about to hit the fan emminating from BO’s CRAP CANNON.
Boo’ing the name of Senator Clinton is the same behavior witnessed in Texas and a hundred other places. This is not unity, this is a bunch of “man-children” with no idea how to lead.
Take your artical on the whole and it is not does not bode well for BO.
Maybe Obama or the DMC can get an office set up in Tony Rezko’s jail cell so Rezko can do some fund raising. He was very successful raising funds for Obama’s previous campaigns, right?
Denver and the new elite DNC base - perfect fit.
Median Home Cost: $382,847
Home Appreciation: 8.9%
Unemployment Rate: 2.4%
How many Clinton (ex-dems) fit into the above stats?
Does this city remind you all of Disneyland?
Not even close to what the NATIONAL stats are.
It isn’t representative of who we are - just like ob.
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Larry: This post you made is very significant.
Please induldge me citing myself….
On a blog that’s on the UK paper,The Telephragh, they have some of their reporters here in America that contribute. They’re obviously in the bag for Obama. So I wrote the following to them as a critizism that they have totally shut down their brain.
Now if you take what I said and add it to what Larry has said.. I got a chill that went from my toe to my head…
Obama can’t win? Better not read the Quinnipiac poll then:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x2882.xml?ReleaseID=1187
God damn America, people! Barack Obama is going to finally make our country a place we can be proud of! All we need to do is take away the guns (which will eliminate crime), make friends with terrorists (which will eliminate war), and let the government set your thermostats and outlaw SUVs (which will save the environment). And we’ll pay for it all by taxing rich Republicans, who got us into this mess to start with. Then we can stop saying “God damn America” and start saying “God bless America.”
Or, as Saint Obama sez:
God Bless the Taxman.
The reason the DNC does not have funds and Obama has a warchest is because he sent out letters to his contributors to give to him and NOT the DNC. Said the DNC could wait until after he had the nomination. I thought I had read that somewhere but wasn’t sure where so googled “donate to Obama not DNC” and you will see the Feb 7 2008 email he sent out to his contributors. Sorry - I don’t know how to post the email address for you - I’m an “old girl” in my sixties.
Please keep in mind 5 percent or more when polled will not say im voting for mccain because they dont want to be called racist. So dont get depressed with the polls. its called the bradley or wilder polling effect.
Anybody heard about Larry Sinclair today?