Salon Reporter Hears the PUMAs Growl
By NoQuarter on June 26, 2008 at 3:55 PM in Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Campaign Financing, FISA, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Just Say No Deal, JustSayNoDeal.Com, NAFTA, PUMA, PUMAPac, Qualifications, Race Card, Ronald Reagan, Tony Rezko, Weather Underground, William Ayers
Rebecca, you’re surprised you’ve heard from thousands of PUMAs? Really?
When you write, “Who are these women, and why are they such buzzkills?”
When you fail to acknowledge the primary reason that PUMAs oppose Barack Obama — which is his utter lack of qualifications and experience?
Especially since you did not interview a single member of the JustSayNoDeal.com or PUMA08 coalition? Particularly since, without referring to the group by name, or speaking with (let alone interviewing) any of its leaders, you refer to our top-of-the-tier organizing force, JustSayNoDeal.com, and only in passing, as “this one“?
We’ve posted two reactions to Rebecca Traister’s June 23rd Salon story, “Why Clinton voters say they won’t support Obama,” with the subtitle, “The attack of the PUMAs, or a dozen reasons why Clinton voters are still too angry to come home“:
- “Rebecca Traister’s Safe Expectations — No Deal,” by Charles Lemos
- “A Response to Salon’s Story on PUMA: The Most Important Reason Clinton Voters Will Not Support Senator Obama,” by Ani
Here’s Ms. Traister’s YouTube response to the torrent of comments and e-mails:
Our MALE contributor, Charles Lemos, replied to Ms. Traister’s question, “Who are these women, and why are they such buzzkills?.”
A buzzkill? A buzzkill would be a disasterous Presidency from a dangerously inexperienced 46-year-old Senator who misspeaks on issues ranging from the status of Jerusalem to meeting global dictators and sponsors of global terrorism without preconditions and has no core convictions and for whom everything is a matter of political expediency. That’s a buzzkill. And PUMA, at least for me, stands for People United Means Action.
Ani emphasized the primary reason that millions of us oppose Obama’s candidacy:
Here is the main thing your article fails to take into account, and the main thing every single media outlet in this country likewise ignores: The number one reason we will not support Senator Obama for President is that he is not qualified for the job.
Surprised? Let’s examine this more closely.
This man has missed over 40% of his votes in the Senate. If one examines the votes he has missed, they actually are politically risky and require moral courage. So far, he has exhibited little.
He voted “present” 130 times in the Illinois State Legislature and voted “wrong” six times, i.e., he said “oops, I accidentally pressed the wrong button” — so either he is incapable of multitasking, or he is dishonest, just making choices for political expediency.
Aah. Thou hast hit it. What are the clues to his actions as nothing more than political expedience and opportunism:
A man who sits in a divisive and racist church for 20 years and lies about his knowledge of the contents of these sermons, then throws the church under the bus when it becomes politically critical for him to do so.
A man who is closely associated with the likes of the convicted criminal Tony Rezko, buys a house with his help, receives $250K in campaign contributions and allows Rezko’s slum holes to flourish in his State Senate district while likewise claiming ignorance — yet lies before the American people and says he barely knows the man and only did five hours of work for him years ago.
I will not even delve into his long working relationship with the man from the Weather Underground, ex-terrorist Bill Ayers, which he has likewise downplayed and/or denied.
This is a man with a questionable record on women’s rights, voting ‘present’ numerous times, who has also said “many pro-choice Democrats don’t understand that abortion is a wrenching moral issue.” Really? How insulting.
This is a Democrat who campaigns in South Carolina with Donnie McClurkin, an “ex-gay” man “reformed through prayer.” I wonder to whom Senator Obama was pandering in that state?
This is a man who runs slightly to the left of Hillary Clinton only to flip flop on every position he originally took including: public financing, FISA, his positions of Iraq withdrawal, the Iran threat, Israel, NAFTA and more.
Senator Obama is a man who insults the Bill Clinton presidency, a time of peace and prosperity, while extolling virtues of the disastrous Reaganomics. He calls himself a Democrat?
Most devastating, Senator Obama is a man who, together with his campaign manager and surrogates advantage themselves at every opportunity by playing the race card unjustly.
Senator Obama is the product of splendid marketing. Nothing more …
Read all of Ani’s story, “A Response to Salon’s Story on PUMA: The Most Important Reason Clinton Voters Will Not Support Senator Obama.”
A FINAL NOTE: Your story uses the pronoun “they” over and over and over. Did you SPEAK WITH any of the “they” PUMAs? Did you call a single one? Did you exchange any e-mails with any of the major activists in the JustSayNoDeal.com and PUMA collaborative movements? In Number 11 of your story, you link to 5 sites, at least one of which is not part of the PUMA / JustSayNoDeal.com movement.
Journalism 101 requires direct contact with, and interviews of, the principals involved in these movements — none of which you did for your story.
According to the online dictionary BO has this universal meaning :
BO = body odor - resulting from a failure to bathe
I have loved shorthanding him as BO all along!
I was once - only once - chastized for calling him BO…the rest must have been close enough to smell his shit.
Are you referring to stinky?
Obama stinks every which way to Tuesday…hence my name.
Even Michelle concurs with her “stinky and snore-y” comment about Barack.
Was it me, or does she display the characteristic Obama smirk of condesention while saying by November those vowing not to vote for Obama will come around. What is it about Obama that brings out the absolute worst in people?
I was just thinking how I long for the days when writers were heard and not seen.
Ms. Traister — and God bless her, this isn’t her fault — is a writer who should (after a lot of remedial work) be read and not seen.
She has the quintessential face for radio, as it were. Or for print work, and I don’t mean of the Vogue variety.
It’s like Markos being on Maher or Olbmermann:
There are certain people whom you shouldn’t put in front of the camera. At least if you’re concerned about your ratings, anyways.
Rebecca Traister, and Markos, should not be put on TV (even by themselves as is apparently the case in Traister’s instance). Any GM or producer who decides otherwise will, eventually, pay the price for going against basic media realities.
Who knows, maybe that’s why Olbermann — no male model himself — has Kos on. Nothing like bringing on an unsightly presence to make yourself, comparatively, look good.
Hadn’t thought of that angle but it is one which is certainly exploited in the media world.
Anyways, Traister is an embarrassment to herself and her organization, Salon. Whoever is running things over there should be calling up Traister tonight and putting the kibosh on Traister’s would-be YouTube moonlighting or else ‘becca’s lack of knowledge and professional ethic will, by association, be staining Salon along with herself.
This is worse than a schoolteacher putting up sexy pics of herself on MySpace or something. This is basically Traister telling the world “Salon doesn’t know how to hire writers.”
As a CEO, Traister’s laughable words and videos are a fast track to your pink slip. Something you might be interested in.
She’d be bad on the radio, too. She’s got lousy vocal delivery.
I find that easy to believe. Thanks for the info. I won’t touch her YouTube player because I refuse to give her one view.
It was not just you. They know better, or so they think. They think they know us better than we know ourselves. And they give us motivation to prove our point.
Exactly.
Go ahead Obamabots, continue to strengthen our resolve.
PUMA
The more these people talk the madder the women become. People are seeing the arrogance of the Obamamites. We will vote for anyone but Obama. We will not change our minds in November. I will work my knuckles to the bone on the campaign trail just so Obama doesn’t become President.
Go Larse12! We’ll be out there working beside you!
How many hard-core Hillary supporters will defect?
By Jennifer Liberto, Times Staff Writer
Renee Slater, 51, left the Democratic Party, registered as an Independent and declared her support for Republican Sen. John McCain.
During the primary season around 9 p.m., when most of the world starts thinking about bedtime, Renee Slater would start pounding away at one of her two computers.
Often until 2 a.m., she’d urgently explain to the Internet world why Sen. Hillary Clinton should be president. Though not affiliated with the Clinton campaign, Slater was part of a vast army of volunteers who showed all of the resolve of their favored candidate.
But, of course, resolve didn’t win Clinton the nomination, and when Clinton dropped out of the race, Slater channeled her intensity into something unexpected: The 51-year-old from Aventura left the Democratic Party, registered as an Independent and declared her support for Republican Sen. John McCain.
“McCain has always been a liberal Republican,” said Slater, who made time to blog, unpaid, while getting a master’s degree in accounting from Nova Southeastern University . “Why do you think the conservatives are not happy with him being the nominee? He is not your run-of-the-mill Republican.”
The Democrats’ long, intense primary created especially close attachments for some supporters to their candidates. In the end, many impassioned Clinton supporters, women in particular, said they couldn’t switch their allegiance to Democratic Sen. Barack Obama. They promised to back McCain instead.
“Please don’t go there,” Clinton urged during her concession speech. “Every moment wasted looking back keeps us from moving forward.”
After months of spending every free hour possible defending Clinton online, Slater has gone there. What’s unclear is whether she’s an anomaly or an outspoken example of a quiet problem that Obama may face in November.
“Supporters go through a grieving period, but then they’ll realize McCain is much worse,” said Jon Ausman, a Democratic National Committee member and super delegate who endorsed Clinton but supports Obama in the general election. “I think they’ll come home. This is very normal.”
To some former Clinton supporters, McCain doesn’t seem so bad. He has long been considered a maverick who has spent much of his political career at odds with some in his party on things like stem cell research and campaign finance laws.
Slater said she prefers McCain to Obama because McCain has more political and governing experience. She said she’s bothered by the fact that some of Obama’s short time in the U.S. Senate has been spent running for president. (She said she’s also turned off by “vicious” Obama bloggers.)
As for McCain’s anti-abortion stance, a pro-choicer like Slater doesn’t think it’s the be-all, end-all issue of this election. She calls it a “Democratic threat intended to frighten.”
“If they didn’t outlaw abortion under Bush, who is far more conservative than McCain ever will be, I just don’t think it’s going to happen under McCain,” said Slater, who contributed $1,625 to the Clinton campaign and has given in the past to the DNC and John Kerry’s 2004 presidential campaign.
Slater has joined other passionate Clinton supporters who have found solace on the Internet, blasting Obama and praising McCain on Web sites like hillaryclintonforum.net and hillarygreenmountain.com. They call themselves McCainocrats.
So far in Florida, the number of Clinton supporters and would-be Democrats in Florida who publicly endorse McCain is pretty tiny. A week after the Democrats officially chose their nominee, the McCain campaign touted three high-profile Democrats and Independents from Florida: Slater, former Tampa Mayor Dick Greco and a former sheriff of Highlands County, Howard Godwin.
While the decision to back McCain wasn’t that difficult, the decision to come out and say it publicly was a move that two of the three lost sleep over. In fact, Godwin said there had been a mistake. He is a Democrat and does support McCain. But he never intended his choice to be made public and he didn’t want to talk about it.
Slater said she was hesitant about talking publicly, because she was afraid Obama supporters would inundate her in-box with accusations of racism. Slater says race never entered her mind when she made her decision.
“I know that there’s other people out there who feel like I do,” Slater said. “They may be quiet about it, but they’re out there.”
Former Mayor Greco, 74, a Democrat, said he had no problem talking about his decision to support McCain. He said he always supports candidates based on their experience and character, not political party.
“I just think McCain is better equipped to make these changes. He’s shown he can work both sides of the aisle,” said Greco.
Many Florida Democrats and ardent Clinton supporters, including Clinton fundraiser Chis Korge of Miami, say Democrats will come around and support Obama when they realize that McCain has more in common with President Bush.
“This was a great race between two fantastic candidates and it’s going to take some time to unify, and not everyone’s going to come back,” said Florida Obama spokesman Steve Schale. “But it’s not like John McCain has a unified party either.”
Excerpt from Slater’s writing on the Web:
05-14-2008, 07:26 PM
Hillary, we are still with you, but understand as well.
We will not vote OBAMA, not now, not ever. After witnessing this disgrace of a hit on you, your campaign, Bill’s Presidency, this Democratic party has become a bigger sham than the Repubs. This is worse than 2000 when Bush and his brother Jeb wrestled the election from Gore.
We have been forced to watch the raping of your campaign, and we have been forced to watch a “brokered convention” even before the primaries end. The DNC has told us who we will vote for. The last time I checked we were not yet a fascist nation. Not yet anyway.
Hillary, don’t ask us to unite for Obama, we have already united for McCain.
I’m not grieving. I would have accepted John Edwards. I simply cannot stand barack obama. He is a sexist pig and he attracts nutcases, radicals and people just like him. Show me who your friends are and I will tell you what you are.
Barack Obama is the Democrat’s version of George Bush and his nutcase sycophants. Look at how many of us bloggers are getting threatened and stalked and harrassed. Check out how many of our blogs are locked up by blogger because of malicious Obama savages claiming they are “spam” blogs. Somebody needs to tutor this vile pissants who are a good argument for contraception and Choice. They are very close to violation of internet stalking laws, and if you ask me, NQ should champion the publicity of what is going on. I have never been so glad in my life that I have a gun and a dog. I am not kidding here. these people are Sociopaths-For-Obama.
These people are sick bastards who would shut every one of us up with a bullet if they could. They think the internet makes them anonymous, so they need some tutoring there too. And it all comes from the obama “web echo” program. it’s with that sick bastard’s blessings. The man is an insult to democracy and his radical followers and these pissant kids who think he’s a fucking rap star are repeats of McGovern and Dukakis assholes. America is NOT going to give up democracy or the first amendment or anything else to these crackpot nutcases.
That’s the thing that gets me. Some of these officials just can’t seem to understand that the problem is Obama not any “emotional” attachment to Hillary like they condescendingly state.
I would have voted for Edwards, Biden, Dodd, probably even Richardson if any of them had won the nomination. I would have been willing to forgo the primary and just nominate Gore. There were plenty of options that would have worked out fine in my mind. I just simply cannot accept Obama. The lack of any core values, the racist church, the angry and entitled wife are simply too much to take. The only positive he has is those daughters. They really are adorable.
These “reporter” just don’t get it.
I would have voted for Dodd — but I decided very early on that Obama was not an acceptable Prez candidate.
When it came down to the two — Clinton and Obama — I must go with experience and who I KNOW.
No it has come down to two again — McCain and Obama — and McCain I know.
Everything about Obama is an illusion — his own supporters do NOT know Obama’s position on key issues.
This has nothing at all to do with grief — Clinton did not die — she is still a senator and she will still be doing her job.
Obama never even STARTED to do his job as a Senator.
Plus I will never vote for someone who HATES me — Obama insulted women and has not supported any of the issues important to women.
I do NOT vote for sexist pigs — and Obama is one of the worst overt sexist pigs EVER to run for President.
These reporters do NOT get it — the issue is experience and qualifications — and Obama fails– plus there is the character issue and his long list of creepy friends and associates.
yea the Bush kids were adorable at that age too
remember their whole lives has been that heinous hateful church!
I hope they get counseling at some point!
Actually I think Obama and his wife should also get psychiatric help!
sooner rather than later
have been
not has been
although I can’t WAIT until Obama is a HAS BEEN!! lol
I wouldn’t have voted for Biden, Edwards, Dodd or Richardson. I considered Kucinich briefly, and I respect him the most out of the bunch. I saw Hillary as a leader and a phenomenal candidate. I realized early on that Obama was copying her and had made destroying her a personal mission. It’s sick how he seemed intent on sabotaging her candidacy., like it was a personal mission. He is unscrupulous and not to be trusted. That behavior was one of the tip-offs; the other for me was how he faked his biography. You have to really want to believe his lies to support him unless you’re very cynical.
I agree Hope it looked extremely personal also against Bill. The looks he used to give Hillary just blew me away. I was resolved not voting for bo back in January after realizing what was happening. But what the DNC did to MI an FL first by disenfranchising them, and I do believe it was a set up because they knew obama would win the caucus states but to then usurp the will of MI voters for their own and not fully seat FL when they had no control over what happened, really floored me and I am not sure I cannot support any down ticket dem this time. This was worse than 2000 and it cannot be let to stand, otherwise it is going to keep happening and then what type of country is my grandchildren going to grow up in? This is the kind of crap you would see in China, Iraq, Iran, Russia. I couldn’t accept it in 2000 I sure as hell am not going to accept it from my own party. COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!
The last two posts are definitely how I viewed BO’s attitude during the primary. It is as if he is out to bring the Clintons down. He treated both of them with disrespect, even at times saying the democrats years in power were not impressive (just because they where when Clinton) was president. I find Obama to be very rude, his arrogance is one of entitlement (yes, I say it) and his holier than thou attitude turns me off. I will support McCain and hope the democrats also lose many seats this coming election.
I also would have accepted John Edwards. I am also ashamed to say I voted for John Kerry in 04. But my blog got it to, the sad part is freedom of speech is not considered by the Obama followers. Thats just what they are followers. I got a email today from one, who seemed to want to address some issues I had on our website. The problem is he wanted us to talk to Obama… I think that is the only thing they think, that Obama can just talk his way out of anything. The problem is that there are many Senate Bills right now in congress, and they have just been sitting there for a year. Where was Obama? He was running around giving speeches, way to busy to pay attention. But now, he wants to talk, maybe he should LOOK at the bills, and maybe really DO something…
http://nocache.homestead.com/nativeamericansagainstobama/index.html
Thanks Uppity.
I concur. I too fear for reality.
Obviously this woman has never visted http://www.hcsfjm.com
If she did she would have to do a retraction. No OBAMA, lady, got it?
Maybe next time she will think twice about speaking for a group she isn’t part of. I mean, I disagreed with every single one of her points. It was raw bullshit and made me even more angry. If she’s going to be an Obama Girl, dandy, but she ought to have the courtesy of not pretending she isn’t one. And if she really is not in favor of Barack Obama and doesn’t have the balls to write a piece with cajones, then she shouldn’t write one at all.
Exactly.
And how would she feel if all the emails to her started out with.
‘Rebecca…you ignorant slut..’
I doubt she would take those emails to heart or rather negate them like she did the other emails.
However, that is how her whole piece started. Insulting people she was claiming to support….explain…..or whatever the justification for her article is.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Exactly.
Which is why I didn’t email her as such.
And why I used a well known SNL joke to make the point here…that insulting people doesn’t help Rebecca’s argument.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekend_Update
“Jane, you ignorant slut”
“A frequent feature of Update during this time was Point-Counterpoint, in which Curtin and Aykroyd made vicious and humorously inappropriate ad hominem attacks on each other’s positions on a variety of topics, in a parody of the 60 Minutes segment of the same name which pitted conservative James J. Kilpatrick and liberal Shana Alexander during the 1970s. Another possible impetus for this recurring bit were the nightly op-ed debates on New York station WNEW-TV’s The 10 O’Clock News between conservative Dr. Martin Abend and liberal Professor Sidney Offit which also aired during this period. Aykroyd regularly began his reply with “Jane, you ignorant slut,” which became another of the many SNL catch phrases. (Curtin frequently began her reply with, “Dan, you pompous ass”.)”
Interesting developments over at the Larry Sinclair blog:
http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/
I. Am. Sick. Of. Larry. Sinclair.
…and nobody despises the thought of Barack Obama as president more than I do.
Why are you sick of Larry Sinclair? I just read the latest entry on his blog and it’s very disturbing. Is the way dissenters are to be treated? Isn’t what’s happening to Larry Sinclair of importance to all of us? Larry Sinclair could have been arrested any any point before he arrived at or after he departed the National Press Club. Instead, his arrest took place at the club. Maybe I’m ready to believe just about anything at this point, but why does the government respond to Larry Sinclair with such craziness of its own? Does anyone else know what’s the deal here?
no one has discredited him with any real evidence. The polygraph results remain in question for those that have kept up with this. The fact that he has a criminal background does not, by that fact alone, discredit him. Where is the evidence to discredit? If none exists, why isn’t this story being at least INVESTIGATED??
Yes, I agree that the whole this is very, very disturbing. The MSM won’t touch this story because the media is owned. There is no more free press in this country.
And because of this, an empty suit of a man, who has the power to bring our country to its knees, has a better than good chance of stepping in as our Commander in Chief.
I can’t get to his site because of security. What does his blog say? Have they transferred him yet?
I think its highly usual that if you have a warrant WHY don’t you have extradiction papers already to go. What is up with that.
Secondly, if this is a smear, why hasn’t BOs’ camp commented on his smear blog?
Thirdly, the infamous Whitehouse.com people didn’t present their vaunted lie detection papers nor did they answer questions at the NPC, that they paid for.
Too many ‘what the fucks’ to not be untrue.
Sinclair’s blog is at:
http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/
His latest entry reads:
(begin quote): “10000+ REASON’S THIS IS OVER
Posted by Larry Sinclair on Thursday, June 26, 2008
I am writing this article to inform you all, that their are 10,000+ reason’s why this is over.
FIRST
I met with the Attorney in Delaware this afternoon and he has asked for a retainer of $10,000 which I do not have, and I am not going to stress over this between now and next Thursday.
SECOND
I have gone to the Clerk of the Court in Delaware and I have obtained copies of what little there actually is in the file.
1. The Indictment was ordered and the warrant issued by The Attorney Generals Office of the State of Delaware, not the New Castle County DA as would be the normal process.
2. The Indictment is dated February 4, 2008 and the Rule 9 Warrant ordered and issued by the Delaware State Attorney Generals Office signed by Susan S Dwyer.
3. The Court file states that on February 6, 2008 a Summons was mailed to me for Arraignment on Feb 15, 2008 (a copy of this summons from the court file shows that this did not in fact was not mailed as they did not include any address)
4. On February 11, 2008 the court file shows “SUMMONS SENT BY MAIL RETURNED. INSUFFICIENT ADDRESS, UNABLE TO FORWARD
5. February 15, 2008 “ARRIGNMENT CALENDAR: RULE 9 WARRANT OUTSTANDING. DEFENDANT DID NOT APPEAR.
6. June 23, 2008, “RULE 9 WARRANT RETURNED, BAIL SET AT UNSECURED BOND 3,000, ARS 7/3/08
7. June 23, 2008, ” RULE 9 WARRANT RETURNED, BAIL SET AT UNSECURED BOND 5,000, 7/3/08 ARS
THIRD
The following is the content of the RULE 9 WARRANT (I do not have access to a scanner to scan the document but as soon as I do I will scan it and upload it)
RULE 9 WARRANT
IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF DELAWARE
IN AND FOR NEW CASTLE COUNTY
INDICTMENT BY THE GRAND JURY ID #0712005646
The Grand Jury charges Lawrence W Sinclair with the following offense, a Felony:
THEFT, in violation of Title 11, Section 841 of the Delaware Code of 1974, as amended.
LAWRENCE W. SINCLAIR, on or about the 16th day of October, 2007, in the County of New Castle, State of Delaware, did take, exercise control over, or obtain property of ************************, or another person, consisting of United States Currency or other miscellaneous property valued at $1000.00 or more, intending to deprive that person and/or owner of same, or to appropriate same.
A TRUE BILL
(FOREPERSON)
JOSEPH R. BIDEN, III
ATTORNEY GENERAL
Signed by Susan S. Dwyer
Deputy Attorney General
FOURTH
I know for a fact that the charge stated in the above is not true, but I do not have nor am I going to ask anyone for the funds to retain this attorney. I will appear at the hearing set for July 3, 2008 and I will return to my home in Duluth as best I can and let the process take its due course. For the first time in my life, short a miracle from happening, it looks as if I will indeed engage in my first jury trial. As I have stated before, if I did it, I have admitted it, but this I did not do and I am not going to be harassed, intimidated, or scared into admitting to something I did not do.
FINALLY
It should also be noted that the letters from Social Security terminating my benefits was sent by James F Martin, Regional Commissioner, Chicago Region
So to all of you who believe that the truth is what is important here, you need to go forward and tell the truth. I cannot financially fight this battle and I am not going to be forced into homelessness and/or an earlier death for lack of medical access over this. I have tried to do what was right and I have been beaten up, slandered, attacked, threatened, and more and the powers to be now want to try to put me in the street.
I have been arrested and jailed under outright fraudulent warrants in DC, that came from the US Attorney’s office in DC, I was denied medical treatment and access to medication by a United States Federal Court Judge in DC on a warrant that she knew was non existent, all in the name of protecting a fraud of a presidential candidate.”(end quote)
What was he arrested for. It’s a simple question. He’s turning this into a drama.
Last time I looked, he gave some BS answer that his lawyer wouldn’t let him say.
I say, either get direct or shut up.
It almost seems like he is asking for more money to fight the Delaware charges, in order to continue the fight with Obama.
Yet, I thought that he claimed the fight was over with Obama when he supplied the information needed to expose the lies in the press conference.
Did I miss something?
The other stuff about cancelling his SS and medical seems odd though. Maybe it was because he raised funds on the web…?
It said he’s giving up the battle to have Obama answer his claim since he hasn’t the money or the energy to fight an accusation of theft of “$1000 or more” which supposedly took place in Delaware on or about Oct 16, 2007. The warrant was signed by the deputy attorney under Biden’s kid.
I don’t blame him. Evidently, authorities found out who made the death threats against him but would not even release the information to his attorney.
We all think we live in a country that gives everyone the same rights and protection under the law. It’s scary when you find out that isn’t so.
I don’t particularly like Larry Sinclair. I wouldn’t want to sit at the same table with him. I think I am not alone.
This makes him more vulnerable. Who the heck would help out someone like him?
I can very well believe that the actions against him were based on this expected notion. He is pretty much on his own.
Like him, love him or be indifferent. The story is one we should all follow to the end. Larry posted his original video on youtube Jan 19. These charges were filed by Joe Biden’s kid 2 weeks later.
Like I said, there has been no investigation nor evidence to discredit. I’m not saying it’s true, but I’m also not saying it’s false. I’m saying, we should find out. It’s a fairly simple concept. it scares the bejeezus out of me because there are murder allegations involved.
That’s exactly what the authorities want you to conclude about Sinclair.
Why is it that the authorities jump all over Larry Sinclair without hesitation but a virtual unknown man running for the most powerful position in the world is not even vetted?
This is just another example that we are not living in a democracy and that BO is being protected for a purpose that has nothing to do with running for president. He is the front man/sacrificial lamb for an agenda that I have no doubt has nothing to do with “the will of the people” or our rights as American citizens.
They really don’t get it. I wonder what the DNC and the Obamabots imagine they are gaining by simply ignoring the real reasons we have for not supporting Obama. They’ve convinced themselves that we’re just angry, and I know why. Because acknowledging our valid reasons for not supporting Obama would mean they would have to look at and acknowledge those reasons for themselves. But Obama will not hold up against even the smallest scrutiny. And they have no rebuttal to Obama’s lack of experience, his lies, flip flops, hypocrisy, and poor judgement. So the only thing they can do is ignore these things exist, and that means ignoring us…while, like children, trying desperately to get our votes for their illusion.
NObama. Not now. Not ever.
The other thing they can do, and employ at every opportunity, to deflect from his lack of experience, poor judgment etc. is to accuse everyone who dares to criticize the Emperor with No Clothes is to cry:
RACISM!!
That usually causes everyone to scurry and hide. Well, I’m getting really damn tired of that too, and I’m sure I’m not alone.
perhaps they think it doesnt matter b/c they plan to steal the GE like they did the nom..if they have it in the bag guaranteed, like Uhhbama told everyone, you know this is mine right? to Rendell months ago, taking vacation, yeah, if they plan with these new registrations they get from the summer registration drive they launched, and which posters have already seen, on the streets of NYC registering folks. What if they use those diebold votes and ours are a wash?
They can dish it out but they can’t take it! We have a right to voice our opposition…and make some noise about it… it’s called democracy, remember?
What these people are failing to realize is that not all of Hillary’s supporters were Democrats. Some of us are Independents, who don’t bow to party loyalty. There were also Republicans who supported Hillary and not out of spite or because Limbaugh told them too. My husband (a Republican, who doesn’t listen to the radio) supported her because he felt that she would be tough on national security and the Middle Eastern terrorists. We were both disappointed when Hillary backed out, but we’re hardly grieving. We turned our support to our second choice, John McCain, and so far Obama has shown neither one of us any reason to regret that decision.
That silly Traister chick really shouldn’t be a paid journalist because she obviously has trouble communicating both in print and on video. Was she still attempting to make a dig at those of us who are steadfast in our promise NEVER to vote for BO?
Charles, me thinks Salon needs to hire an intelligent journalist with integrity. That’s YOU!
GO PUMA
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Obama distances himself from his middle initial.
The NYTimes reports that “B.H.O.” shorthand is frowned upon. Here’s Jake Tapper:
should’ve distanced himself from his middle finger instead of flipping off Hillary in public
I am not suggesting anyone does this tomorrow but… given the prohibition of partisan political ’signs’ at the event in New Hampshire, wouldn’t it be a riot if Senator Obama’s detractors all scratched their faces at the same time, for example, when he begins to speak?
How can they prohibit political signs?! What the hell happened to the First Amendment. This guy is bad for this country on so many levels.
Okay so now he wants to ban middle initials? What else?
there it goes….his middle name/initial under the bus
“That’s not the H that I knew!”
Message to All Whining Female Democrats: Hillary’s Out. Get Over It, by Barbara Goldsmith
A Friend Stopped By Barack Obama Barbara Goldsmith Feminism Gloria Steinem Hillary Clinton Politics
Editor’s Note: Barbara Goldsmith is a prize-winning bestselling author and historian. She served on the Presidential Commission for the Celebration of Women in America History during President Clinton’s administration.
“Whoever is set up to be president of the United States is just set up to have his character torn off from his back in shreds and to be mauled, pummeled and covered with dirt by every filthy paper all over the country. And no woman that was not willing to be dragged through every kennel, and slopped into every dirty pail of water like an old mop, would ever consent to run as a candidate. Why, it’s an ordeal that kills a man. It killed General Harrison and it killed old Zach [Taylor]. And what sort of … a woman would it be that could stand it and come out of it without being killed?”
So commented Harriet Beecher Stowe when Victoria Woodhull announced her bid for the presidency in 1872.
The place: a distinguished publisher’s Park Avenue apartment. The date: Wednesday, June 18. The time: 8:45 AM. The occasion: a breakfast hosted by Gloria Steinem. The stated objective: to bring the Women for Barack Obama and the Hillary Clinton supporters into one cohesive group.
The little blonde stood, arms akimbo, and vented her wrath: “I am a good friend of Hillary’s,” she declared. “I’ve had her at my home, and I have always been there for her. I am here to tell you how angry and hurt I am and how hurt all Hillary supporters are by the sexist, disgusting way Hillary was attacked and pilloried by the media in this campaign. Until some acknowledgment of that is made, I am full of anger. I know the Democratic Party could have stopped it. I know Obama could have stopped it. But, everyone was silent and just let it happen and …”
Next up: a professor who took a full six minutes announcing her credentials and then said, “I used up my entire pension supporting Hillary. I went to 13 states and knocked on doors. I want everyone in this room to write in the name of Hillary Clinton on the ballot when they go to vote and …”
Another woman announced that she intended to launch a boycott of MSNBC. “I want all of you to sign my petition.”
The chairperson of “Women for Obama,” Becky Carroll, had flown in from Chicago and said she was tired. You’d be tired too with all that invective flying around the room. But Ms. Carroll couldn’t very well intervene, if catharsis was what was needed to unite Democratic women. Ms. Carroll was in a tough position – too tough to point out that Hillary Clinton had announced that her supporters should “take our energy, our passion, our strength and do all we can to help elect Barack Obama …” These emotional outbursts — and there were several more — are just what male chauvinists say about woman’s incapacity to coolly assess a situation.
Please note that so far there’s been no “I” word in my comments. The “I did this, I did that, I am hurt, I may not vote, I may vote for McCain,” and so forth that have been heard lately may be what’s holding Democratic women back from fulfilling their potential to become a powerful coalition that could help guide this country back to safer ground.
Let’s just accept the reality of the political climate. With a Democrat in the White House and a Democratic Congress, Clinton and Obama agree, women may now be granted a full array of reproductive health services and the right to choose what is right for their own bodies. Nineteen million uninsured women might obtain full medical coverage. The accelerated production of medicines that prevent the transmission of the HIV virus might be funded, and maybe the hard-working middle-class women (and men) that constitute the backbone of our country will get a break. And, just think Supreme Court, Supreme Court, Supreme Court!
Remember what Harriet Beecher Stowe said about the scurrilous 1872 presidential campaign; throwing mud, undermining character, trying to prove incompetence, personal insults are all a part of politics just as they were 136 years ago. Unfortunately, no candidate is above the fray; it’s only that technology and the length of this campaign have exacerbated the process. But, Hillary Clinton was a great adversary who broke down many barriers and helped clear a path to the future. Harriet Beecher Stowe was wrong in that Hillary Clinton was “not killed.”
So as my kids say, “Get over it.”
YOU ARE NOT LISTENING.
We are not “whining” because Hillary suspended her campaign….!!
OBAMA IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT!!! WE DO NOT LIKE OBAMA FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
Why is it so hard to believe that the disdain for Obama had NOTHING TO DO WITH HILLARY!
I will NEVER vote for Obama for President….NEVER!!! For a number of reasons that YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO!
I would have voted for any of the other Democratic Nominess….a couple I would have to hold my nose for …. yet NOT OBAMA!
The DNC is making it even worse and the elitist like Pelosi, kerry, Daschle, Dean and the rest.
NOBAMA….not today….not ever.
Hillary or McCain ‘08
BARBARA dear.. YOU Get over it
I’m not a kid and will never “get over it” or vote for BO. It’s a stupid condescending thing to say to us.
I knew Hillary was obliged to support BO. I’m not. I sent in my change of affiliation before she conceded. I can and will support and campaign for McCain if Obama is the nominee come August.
The reasons I cannot even consider BO have been discussed here in detail. Larry Johnson says BO makes McCain look like King Solomon.
auuh. poor thing, even resorting to repeated sexism talking points by this woman. She is a confused puppy. But, the condescention she partakes in…via Camp Obama’s tactics, I guess can’t be helped.
Delusional is another word that comes to mind. Apparently she doesn’t understand power to SPEAK UP and be heard and TELL IT LIKE IT IS. Or, does she wish us to be good little soldiers, hush up now and take orders quietly. Oh yes, Woman can take their rightful place in powerful positions acting like whipped puppies as the sexist men would have us (snark) and she aims to help.
No, she isn’t paying very good attention. But, she’s in her place because of women like us, so, being she doesn’t have the testicle fortitude, we will fight on for her and others who don’t have the means.
Hey, Barbara, you dry pussy turkey neck cunt, funny how you’re telling us to behave when you pride yourself on sounding like your “kids.” Fuck my gaping hole. Obama stinks like a dead hooker in a shallow grave somewhere between Barstow and Vegas during a heat wave. Can I get any more colorful in telling you how much I despise you and the POS you support. Don’t let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.
Get off of it!
Funny, the only thing ‘Barbara’ says is that BO is elected some things MIGHT happen. That’s it, some things MIGHT happen. Of course, something entirely different MIGHT happen also.
Also, women do make decisions on who to vote for based on a whole range of issues and considerations. My uterus is not the beginning and the end of my political worldview. Give us a little more credit than that.
Many people who are claiming to speak for “all Hillary supporters” are not making the most basic point clear:
The DNC violated the democratic process of their own party’s Charter. THAT has nothing to do with Hillary or whining or winning or anything else. Through fraud and intimidation at the caucuses, to the inaccurately portrayed role of superdelegates, to the constant calls for Hillary to get out (despite her right to go to the Convention as someone who won more votes than any candidate in primary history), to disenfranchisement of two states, followed by the deliberate delay of allocating their delegates & the blocking of revotes, and then the ultimate violation–the RBC meeting–this primary was fraudulent and deliberately engineered. THAT is the fundamental reason that Obama is illegitimate. It is the antitheses of the Democratic Party and the very principles of this democracy. THAT is just as important as anything the Supreme Court can do. So it doesn’t matter whether anyone apologizes or soothes the hurt feelings. He is ILLEGITIMATE–PERIOD!
It was NOT “politics as usual” (unless by “usual” you mean the stolen election of 2000). I wish people that are speaking out would drive this home, because the message is not getting through! If I read one more damn article about Hillary losing or “emotional women” I am going to show them just how emotional I can be about the Bill of Rights.
Women who are crying about their “feelings” are not helping our cause.
Good post, Fran.
No I’m not crying over “feelings” and I, too, am angry when the DNC and their minions attempt to trivialize the issue or just pretend nothing happened. I haven’t gotten over 2000 and this is almost worse…screwed by our own party. Such a violation of trust that I’ll never go back. And, I’ll never vote for Obama ever under any circumstances.
Thank you.
That is the most important part of this….the subversion of democracy.
I have no emotional feelings about the historical moment that was lost. Or all the other sexist, ‘delicate flower’ excuses that are applied to me as a woman who supported Hillary.
I do have a probelm with the Dems stealing an election from the better/elected candidate.
It didn’t fly when the Reps did it…and it still doesn’t fly when the Dems do the same.
The MSM can go insult someone else’s intellegence. I didn’t fall for their lies about Dubya, the Iraq war, or Obama and his race baiting campaign.
They can try and dismiss me and my views with lies but I’m still batting a thousand spotting their errors covering these major news events. Solely, because I don’t rely on one source for my news.