The Magic Seal, The Mystery Candidate [UPDATE]
By TexasDarlin on July 1, 2008 at 1:35 PM in Barack Obama, Current Affairs, Daily Kos, birth certificate, eligibility, hawaii
In my post Monday, Kos Tampering with Obama Birth Certificate?, I showed the results of my application of edge-enhancing software to two images of Obama’s Certification of Live Birth (COLB) published at different times by Kos on Daily Kos.
I didn’t see a seal on the old image; others claim they have, including the blogger Cannonfire, who calls out Kos for switching images without informing his readers. The blogger Polarik, it should be noted, is sticking to his story that they are all fake.
So maybe there was an embossed seal there all along. Maybe not. It’s insane that Americans have to download fancy software and get out magnifying glasses to verify the legitimacy of a presidential candidate’s birth because of his unwillingness to be transparent, but unfortunately that fits the pattern of this candidate.
Seal or no seal, there are many unresolved questions about Obama’s birth, and I’ll list those below, in as much an attempt to organize my thoughts as to share information. And I will continue to post developments in this story, but will also target other serious issues that have received less attention, particularly those related to Obama’s eligibility and qualifications to be POTUS.
If the birth certificate mystery has been used as a diversion tactic by Camp Obama, it won’t work with me. I have not forgotten about the missing state senate records, the dual citizenship sticking-point, the selective service registration, Larry Sinclair’s allegations, the Rezko crimes, and more.
I was asked yesterday what “alternate theory” I was putting forth about the birth certificate and I replied that it was not my responsibility to have a theory, that I was just presenting information and analyzing it to the best of my ability.
But actually I do have a working theory about the birth mystery. My theory is that there is a COLB on file in Hawaii for Obama [Update: this does not necessarily mean he was born in Hawaii!], but that his file, which would contain ALL of the information on his original birth certificate, includes information that Obama prefers to hide. I don’t know what that is, but I do know that it otherwise would be easy and painless for Obama to release the entire content of his file and lay this matter to rest. He’s chosen, instead, to share an altered image of a recently issued summary certification. Notably, the certification form used by Hawaii prior to 2001 provided much more detailed information about a registrant’s birth.
What is Obama hiding? It could be any number of things for any number of reasons: place or date of birth; parents’ marital status; name changes; father’s profession; father’s presence or absence thereof at birth; indication of dual citizenship; etc. Who knows. If/when Obama finally produces for inspection a verifiable COLB with seal, stamp, and everything else required to make it legitimate, I’m sure he’ll demand an end to all this questioning. But I personally will not be satisfied until his original birth certificate (or the contents thereof) is shown by the State of Hawaii.
Here are the key outstanding questions/comments I have about the birth mystery, and I’m sure sharp readers will add to the list:
1. If there is a physical COLB from Hawaii with an embossed seal, registrar’s stamp, and all the other required elements of an official COLB, why be so coy about showing it? Why not photograph both sides, show it to a group of reporters, and be done with it? Are we being played by Obama, or is there something fishy about the document? Which is it?
2. If the COLB lacks any of the elements (e.g., the registrar’s stamp), the Hawaii AG should investigate.
3. Why is Kos so involved? Why is he taking on the primary responsibility of documenting Obama’s legitimate COLB? When Kos, who calls himself a “journalist,” published the COLB on June 12 (just before the Obama campaign did) he made no mention of how, or in what form, he acquired Obama’s COLB. On a related note…
4. What has been the chain of custody of the actual COLB that purportedly has a physical embossed seal? Who has handled it, and when, in recent months?
5. What is the origin of the COLB templates posted on Kos by Opendna and how do they relate, if at all, to the COLB presented by Obama and Kos?
6. Why has Obama’s COLB been Photoshopped to death by the Obama campaign, Kos, or others?
7. Why is the reference number on the COLB concealed? The number has no relevance or connection to other confidential information; it’s just a file number issued by the State of Hawaii, the first four digits of which indicate the year of birth.
8. Why does Obama’s COLB say “date filed” in the lower left section when all of the other COLBs from Hawaii that I’ve seen, on the same form, say “date accepted?”
NOTE: Janice Okubo, Communications Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health Vital Records division (otherwise known as OHSM for Office of Health Status Monitoring) told me that the State used to use these terms interchangeably, but now “date filed is always used.” I did follow up with the AG to confirm this explanation but have not yet received a reply.
9. What hospital was Obama born in, and why won’t he clarify this information? I have seen references to two: Kapioloni Medical Center and Queens Medical Center. Why not release the records?
10. Why was Obama’s mother in Mercer Island with a 3-week-old for a brief visit in August 1961?
NOTE: A high-school acquaintance of Stanley Ann Dunham told me that Stanley Ann and baby Barry came through town alone in August 1961 on their way to see Barack Sr. at Harvard in Boston, and that Barack Sr. was not present at his son’s birth.
This explanation surprised me because supposedly Barack Sr. did not go to Boston until 1963, two years later. If the account is true, however, it would indicate that time lines provided by Obama about his family history are inaccurate. On this note, I was told by a reporter who investigated Stanley Ann Dunham that she enrolled briefly at the Univ. of Washington in Spring, 1962, and lived in Seattle alone with baby Barack. Perhaps they never lived together as a family.
I still think it is possible that Obama was born near Mercer Island because the stories just have too many holes.
11. Obama’s grandmother (Stanley Ann Dunham’s mother), Madelyn Dunham, is reportedly alive, lucid, and living in Honolulu near his sister. She is the person best able to clarify many of these questions but the campaign has not made her “available.” Why not?
Again, Obama should make his complete birth certificate file available, not just a summary certification.
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In the final analysis, a presidential candidate should not be mysterious. Barack Obama has consistently been secretive about all aspects of his life. We are a society that demands transparency from public officials, especially at high levels. It’s unacceptable for a serious presidential contender to resist requests for information about his family, college records, state senate business, birth circumstances, drug use, and any other component of his life that is relevant to the public’s determination of his fitness to be POTUS.
When you apply to be President of the United States, you forfeit much of your right to privacy. This is especially true for a candidate like Obama, whose unique history introduces complex considerations such as dual citizenship. Obama has the duty to be as transparent as possible, to satisfy the public’s interest that he meets every eligibility test, that he has been fully vetted for the highest office in the country. There is no room for circumvention when you want to be President.
TexasDarlin, all rights reserved.
Obama is a fraud - plain and simple and it only ’starts’ with his birth certificate.
Lets have a poll on the S + B
BEWARE:The poster (CANNONFIRE aka Joseph) who posted here yesterday claiming to be an expert on the FAKE Obambi BC is a plant as far as I’m concerned. He removes posts on his blog that show evidence contrary to his, in fact he has MODERATION turned on so that he can review posts before accepting them.
If anybody takes the time to view the KOS copy and the Obambi (fight the smears)copy you will know they are two different copies.
The KOS copy in the lower left hand corner reads as follows :OHSM 1.1 http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certtificate.jpg
The Obambi (fight the smears) copy in the lower left corner reads as follows: OHBM 1.1 http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg
Notice the 3rd letter at KOS is an “S”
Notice the 3rd letter at Obambi is a ” B ”
CANNONFIRE aka Joseph makes the excuse that it has to do with different sized jpg’s, that 100% BS
and he knows it.
Have a close look at the Obambi image (2x image size) and continue to read the same line where it says ” LASER ” , you will notice the ” S ” in laser is not the same as the ” B ” in OHBM 1.1. You don’t even need to use any fancy program, just blow up the image x2 in your paint program, it’s clear to see.
I tried to explain that to CANNONFIRE aka Joseph and his reply was “Whoever you are, you’re wacky”.
My second post to him where I went into more detail was scrubbed off his blog by him. The guy is an impostor in my opinion.
As far as I’m concerned the only guy to trust on this with knowledge is poster ” Polarik ” !!
I’m pizzed in thinking that CANNONFIRE aka Joseph is a plant!! The truth will come out, it’s only a matter of time.
I am not sure about the “s” and “b” queston. Someone on the NQ team examined enhanced views of that corner, and believes them both to say “ohsm” If you have enhanced and verifiable images from both files that show otherwise, please send them to me, TexasDarlin, care of susanunpc@gmail.com
I checked both and I concur. The Obama COLB has a “B” and the KOS COLB has an “S”.
Maybe we should start playing Chuck Berry’s “Too Much Monkey Business”.
Trust me it’s a non-issue. It’s just that the smaller font of that text has distorted the S. If you compare it to a “B” in the same font elsewhere in the document you’ll see that it doesn’t look the way it should if it was a “B”.
It’s a distraction from what’s really going on.
YES, YES, YES!
The BC is FAKE! They all say “S” - that is not the issue - Don’t get hung up on this.
All the KOS/Opendna are the same - they are fake.
I don’t want the word “distraction” to enter into common usage on this site. It reminds me of Botspeak.
With enough enhancement, you can see anything.
It’s an S, not a B.
Here are closeups of the OHSM cropped from the Kos image and the “Smears” image.
First, Kos:
Now, Smears:
If these examples don’t do it for you, here’s the missing word, LASER, on the Smears image:
As you can see, the “S” in LASER,” looks a lot like the “S” in OHSM.
Mystery solved. Both images “show OHSM.”
CORRECTED LINK TO KOS IMAGE from my post above.
http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg
TexasDarlin ,
just open up both images and have a look, you will see KOS has OHSM 1.1 and Obambi has OHBM 1.1
In the Obambi image look at OHBM and continue slightly to the right and read “laser” , the S in laser is not the same as the B in OHBM 1.1
I just looked at the one from Barky’s smears. I enlarged it, sharpened it a couple of times & it was still hard to tell, so then I embossed that corner & it does look like a B. I will check the other B & S’s on that page later & then the KOS one (yuck…I hate clicking on kos)! Gotta run for now!
It does look like a B but it sucks that we are looking at 2 copies from KOS and Barky.
I have stared at the “S” and “B” too. I “think” I see enough white space to make that B really and S. Look at other “S’s” the font stops at would be a sharp vertical line to the left which makes it look like a B. At first blush, it does look like a “B” and the “OH” seems to be more connected or closer together than the others. This could be because it such a poor document.
OF course, does not help that Obama submitted such a low grade copy. What happened to that PDF file we were to get? Does anyone remember if news of a PDF came form Obama?
PLEASE stio with the paranoiac attacks…CANNONFIRE is no “plant”
get a grip mister!
PLEASE STOP - NOT STIO!
Canonfire is jumping the gun in stating that the BC posted at Daily Kos is real. The important thing he has discovered is that there appears to be a circular image on the original Daily Kos document when a photoshop filter is applied to it at certain settings. To jump from that observation to “This Birth Certificate” is real is
completely unwarranted.
And TexasDarlin deserves deep respect and kudos for devoting so much hard work to this issue.
1. The ’seal’ on Obama’s doc appears to be in ink, or the same color as the date stamp.
2. The Decosta doc appears to have 3 distinct stamps; Signature, Date, Seal. The Obama doc appears to have 1 stamp given he relation of the date and supposed seal.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s a plant, but he is rude.
Who in governmaent has the responsibly to verify US birth for potential presidential candidates??? Ask the McCain campaign!!! They should be jumping all over this!
I don’t think any Republican will touch this story until AFTER the August Convention. We will then see all the garbage on Obama come out and not until…unless WE get it out.
Yep. And for any highly qualified job you gotta start with the working hypothesis that candidates are not qualified until they prove otherwise. Obama ain’t proved shit.
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I say John McCain should come out and say, “I need to forgo public financing because I need to fight the smears from the New Democratic Coallition. I suspect they will use the race card at least one more time”.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775/
I raise you one Ayers.
Thats kinda like Obama not paying his parking tickets right?
Barry has always considered himself above ANY law.
Coke, Heroin…whatever…
I think this links shows how nice Cindy is
“According to a McCain campaign aide, who requested anonymity when discussing a private matter, an elderly aunt of Mrs. McCain’s lives in the condo”
Especially compaired to Obama who’s grandmother in Kenya lives in a hut and had to borrow a TV. Cindy proveds her aunt a Condo, Obama who made 4 million last year can’t even give Granny her own TV to watch the elections
That’s because she’s not Barky’s Grandma. His Grandfather, the one he doesn’t talk about in his corny as Kansas in August TV ad, was a Muslim with multiple wives.
Still it be nice if he sent her some cash. That 27 thousand dollars he gave to his anti American Marxist “church” would go a long way in Kenya.
Then again, Barky didn’t bother to go see his Mother when she died.
and that was just in 1 year, I imagine he could build quite a bit in poor Step Granny’s (would a multiple wife to grandpop be considerred Step?)town for all the money he gave TUCC. The least he could have done, when handing out the millions of dollars in grants to Rezko and his other slumlord friends, was make a grant to improve Granny’s house/village.
Are there any AA people in his kansas values commercial? I hear he has a new ad out, I wonder how many lies are in the new one?
I think he made 10 million, and he threw his other granny under the bus, comparing her to an unpatriotic racist hate monger.
You’re scraping the barrel there, aren’t you? How pathetic. The exception not only proves the rule, but here the contrast highlights the systemic corruption of the Obama gang.
NOBAMA
Grandma is going to pull an October Surprise on the ungrateful, typical brat.
he’d have her committed to a locked up rubber room so fast if she even HINTED that….
LOL, that would be hilarious!!!
Again,
I don’t see why folks have to talk about the guy’s GRANDMOTHER. She was in one of his ads during the primary.
Didn’t Barky bring up his poor Grandmother? Called her a racist if I recall.
and apparently now BOBO can disown here. She better watch out.. she better not cry.. she better not pout.. I’m telling you why.. BOBO might control the CIA
Come on, sing it with me!
oops, her not here
So you wouldn’t talk about Barbara Bush? She is someone’s GRANDMOTHER.
I’d call her the most powerful woman in the world outside the Queen of England.
Remember when Ohblahma was crying “what is trying to hide?” when he wanted Hillary to release the records from when she was first lady? And as much as she kept saying that it was not in her control, he kept whining……I say to Obama..what are you trying to hide???
Excellent analysis, TexasDarlin! You are so on target! I thought barky’s cob looked fake from the first time I saw it. Even if there is some type of extraordinarily lite purple stamp (?) on the backside, it doesn’t explain the white halos around all the letters, the blacked out cert #, the race “African”(wtf?), the Date Filed, no sig block, and of course the date stamp, which looks like the typical kind that people have been using for years. Its plainly legible, to the naked eye, while one must go thru photoshop gymnastics to see a faint outline of a seal? Doesn’t make sense, when all of the elements are visible on the other cobs that have been made available.
What are they hiding? A lot of people have suggested that the rade originally said Arab, which I originally thought unlikely, but if the Dad wasn’t there, mightn’t Stanley or her parents said his race was Arab? (sounds racist I know, but this was 1961) The Barky campaign must know all the heat this issue has generated, beciuz their little spies are here all day long, why doesn’t he come clean?
Keep it up TD! More stuff comes out about this everyday. Eventually the puzzle pieces will fall into place.
Arab would have been the word back then.
Lawrence of…
and all that!
Darlin, I think I can help with the accepted v filed thing. I think COLB issued in Hawaii prior to statehood, 1959, were accepted by the new state. Those filed afterward were simply filed.
On another point, if Stanley were living alone in WA in 1961/1962, that would explain his “single parent - foodstamps” narrative, which always infuriated me. I would say, When was she single except between husbands? And after the second one left her and she was truly single, Barky was living with his married, middle class Grandparents.
But, if she were alone in WA with the baby, that is another story entirely. Maybe she didn’t want her parents to know he left her, or they were never together, or her mother put her pregnant unmarried teenage behind out or who knows?
Another Barky fairytale.
careful…fairytale is a racist word according to the new adbridge OBAMA dictionary.
Can you imagine the scandal?
His Mom was no mildly beatnick character out of a Gidget or Dobie Gilis tv episode thats for sure!
Imagine…Ike was still President and…
A lilly white girl - newly arrived in Hawaii from Oregon for chrissake - just out of high school - meets a COMMUNIST - a married KENYAN no less - in a friggin RUSSIAN (!) class and OOPS -she gets made PREGNANT by him - right away!
MY GOD!
Oh yeah - Im sure they was in “luv”. Barry says they were all romanced up by the events taking place in Selma (which wont take place for 4 more years!)
At least we know where Obama got his great sense “judgment” from!
I have another theory to consider. What if Stanley and Barack,SR went to Kenya, where she delivered her baby. Perhaps she overheard his family talking about keeping the baby there and decided she would have to get away. She probably still had her round trip ticket back. She knew if she took the baby and ran away, she would have to hide out for a while. So she stopped in Washinton and stayed there until she thought it was safe to go back to her parents. Well, maybe.
He said she was on food stamps when she was a student (phd?) and he was in the expensive prep school. Altho he doesn’t explain that WHEN he was going to the prep school he was living with his grandparents SO he was not living with her when she was on said foodstamps. (did she claim he was to get the food stamps?)
No wonder he has trouble keeping ALL his lies straight, he would need a few edition encyclopedia to write them all down.
The food stamp pilot program started in May 1961 in only 8 counties. It didn’t grow until 1964 and that included 43 counties.
When was his mom suppose to be on food stamps?
Deport the fraud, Obama.
Alice knew more about the Red Queen’s political ideology than the Democratic party knows about their selected candidate Obama. Since they won’t look into his background or his character, it’s a good thing we voters know how unlock that closet door where Obama’s skeletons are hidden.
WHAT ABOUT THE “WHITEY” TAPE, LARRY????
drip drip drip. your desperation drips from your keyboard. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Danni sounds scared, worried, biting his nails, unable to sleep, tossing and turning
[tick, tick, tick . . .]
I say we call him Danno like the guy from Hawaii Five-O.
When the tape drops after Denver, we can all tell the troll “Book him, Danno!”
Where’s Obama’s original birth certificate? Where’s the proof he signed up for Selective Service?
TexasDarlin: Thank you for staying on top of this. I really appreciate your hard work and great articles. I would be thrilled if Barky was deported to Kenya along with his supporters and especially those on his campaign. He’s a fraud. There is no other explanation. Secretive because he is a fraud. Soros, Pelosi, Dean all know it that’s why they defend him and try to suppress anyone who doesn’t like him.
Obama Lies Again…. video.
Thanks.
Notice the youtube ratings are being manipulated - just like everything else in his world.
The whole package is toxic, every damn drop of him.
And everyday we become more determined to expose this freaking flake from hell.
This whole primary has been a weird magical mystery tour.. why all the friggin’ secrets?
NOBAMA!
Thanks again, TD.
I happen to think that the certificate number has the DATE that the certificate was issued. DeCosta’s happens to show 1930 because she was registered in the year she was born. This is similar to recording numbers for real property.
I “think” that we may see a date other than his birth date. If that date is different, that would indicate that he did a late registration of birth. OF course, that would give rise to other questions. I can think of no other reason to black that out. It is not confidential and no one could use that number for anything.
Its so you can’t verify the Birth Certificates Authenticity. The registered number could be checked for filing purposes.
Thanks, Darryl. I am just so guessing that the number has something to do when the birth was registered. Obviously each number is in series. However, I do not think that if I had the number, I could get the certificate.
HI does have a “Verfication letter.” However, one still has to have a direct and tanglible interest (like for the BC) and then HI would only verify information provided. So, Obama could tell them that number, and HI could verify that the number is correct. But that number is otherwise useless unless someone comes forward and says, “Hey! That is MY number.”
WHY OH WHY DON’T THEY READ MY BLOG?
I mentioned on my blog that the birth date is part of the certificate number..like the part before thje dash”-”
See the story under “Why is the Certificate Number Obama’s Bogus BC blacked out?”
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That’s good thinking, Kelly, about the birth certificate number. It makes sense that certificate numbers would be issued sequentially and correspond with the year of registration of the birth, not the birth itself. So if there’s no 1961 in his number, it opens a huge can of worms for him. He may indeed be a “natural born citizen” born in Hawaii, but if his birth was registered late by his mother, grandmother or grandfather, then he’d be asking us to take their word it. People would not be happy about that.
come on baraaak show us the real deal
we are sick of the lies and deception
if you want to be president of this great country then be transparent
Hey, this would look good on a T-shirt -
“Obama, if you want to be president of this great country then be transparent”
Chaulk that up to one more similarity between Obama and Bush. Democrats must love getting destroyed by the Corporate Branch of the DNC.
Once again I think we miss the real issue here. I think it is becoming clearer and clearer that we have a deal of some kind made with Pelosi and Dean and with the Rupublican party. Note that Rove would never have given up so easily on his PERMANENT REPUBLICAN MAJORITY as he appears to have. He announced that he intended to keep the Repubs in power indefinitely. It seems clear to me that Obama is at the very least a Repub, at the worst, a Bill Ayers representative of some fascist kind of totalitarian horrific nightmare. Either way, the Repub win. McCain or Obama. The nagging question that goes with this one is why was impeachment “off the table”? That has NEVER been explained and indeed I’m not sure anyone asked. There was waaay to much deal making of the kind that not only is not what anyone who stood behind Clinton wanted but could even imagine. It is the nightmare that Rove promised. Rove, Axelrod, Patti Solis Doyle…. you don’t even have to be able to spell conspiracy to see this one.
if you want to be president of this great country then be transparent
I thought that was his promise to the good people of America, that he was going to make government transparent…oh, that’s for everyone else BUT him. Got it. Slicky B.
It worked with Bush. He was all kinda secret about everything. Didn’t debate after the Primary. Got his campaign to smear for him, then rejected the comments. Obama is using the RNC playbook from the 2000 election.
Maybe someone has a copy of that Birth Certificate along with his service registration info and the whitey tape.
I have a feeling that the BC issue is going to be resolved say around 48 hours before Nov.4th.
From what I recall, Obama also would not release his passport information showing when and where he had traveled overseas.
For a public official, Obama seems to be very secretive.
Why would Hawaii have a birth certificate on file for him if he wasn’t born there?
I answered this but the comment didn’t show up for some reason. There is such a thing as “late registration.” You can read the previous posts.
Are you stupid or something? Do you know how immigration works?
The process of going from applicant to Green Card (legal alien) to legal citizen (immigrant) is paper intensive. One of the things that you supply is your country of origin’s birth certificate. Up until recently (the Patriot Act affected this process), the files were kept in the State where you petitoned for citizenship. For instance, I went through the citizenship process in MO, and they have my Canadian COB. Actually, they have quite the fat file on me. I saw it when I went to pass the oral test.
So even if Obama was born in Kalamazoo, if his mother petitoned for citizenship for him in HI, the state of HI would have his Kalamazoo COB. Or at least until recently, before the implementation of the Patriot Act.
I believe Homeland Security has reserved an underground wharehouse near Kansas City for these documents going forward.
Moron. You know each state manages the INS program (now known as Homeland Security or maybe the Mickey Mouse Registry, I can’t keep track of all the Bushiness) right? If you apply for citizenship in one state, they make you start the whole process again if you move to another state. Which is why, up until recently, the state had your immigration info.
Re: #8 the date filed vs accepted. I looked at Polariks & the DeCosta (generated 2002) & Tomoyasu (sp?) cobs say Accepted. There are people who have recently asked for their cobs from Hawaii to check theirs against Barky*s (supposedly generated 2007). Does anyone know if theirs say Filed instead of Accepted?
Thank you TexasDarlin.
I’m wondering if it’s a manuever to discredit the netroots. The blogosphere is the only place where we consistently have legitimate political criticism happening. if Obama were to debunk an enthusiastically discussed scandal such as this, could that serve the end goal of reducing the already beleaguered credibility of the internets?
Any hint of controversery around his birth could have been quickly averted by posting the embossed side of the COLB. A healthy campaign, which wants to move to eliminate as many grounds for controversy as possible, would have had the embossed side up most likely from the beginning. But at the very least, as soon as the questions we now have swirling around arose.
He is hestitant about sharing the full circumstances of his birth, but he is also willing to allow controversies around his birth to linger on. To what end? How is his nomination and election enhanced by not aggressively swatting this story down?
That’s what I don’t get.
This fasinating TexaDarling.
This explanation surprised me because supposedly Barack Sr. did not go to Boston until 1963, two years later. If the account is true, however, it would indicate that time lines provided by Obama about his family history are inaccurate. On this note, I was told by a reporter who investigated Stanley Ann Dunham that she enrolled briefly at the Univ. of Washington in Spring, 1962, and lived in Seattle alone with baby Barack. Perhaps they never lived together as a family.
None of this matters. The Obama campaign can spin all they want and they can plant as many Cannonfires as they want. The damage has already been done. The “birth certificate” is suspicious. And it is suspicious in way that could be a huge national scandal and topple Obama’s campaign. Eventually, somebody IS going to get ahold of the real birth certificate. I wouldn’t be surprised one bit if some employee at OHSM, right this minute is cashing a big fat check of bribe money for supplying the real deal to any one of a bazillion interested parties on this.
Whatever is on that document that Obama does not want people to know is about to be splashed all over the news. And based on the amount of effort to conceal that info, even after getting friggin caught….it must be bad…..really, REALLY bad.
That is the real issue.
Possibly true Anon, but it wouldn’t be a check.
Conspiracy theories abound when the there is no logical explanation.
You ask great questions, TexasDarlin. My guess is that the most likely scenario — and what an original birth certificate might show — is that the birth was registered late. If that’s the case, then even Obama might not be sure where he was born. And he certainly wouldn’t want the issue raised publicly (even if he was born in Hawaii). Imagine the situation if we were asked to take his mother or grandmother’s word for it that he was a natural born citizen. I don’t think it would go over so well…
And if it’s not that (or something like it), then why let this continue? It can’t be helping him to have these speculations swirling about.
Thank you, Texas Darling!
Lorelynn, critics can disparage internet all they want, but it won’t work. It got PUMA media attention….I can’t tell you how many people appreciate the stuff I have learned in here! The entire country can’t be so wrong; in fact, people want the truth. They’ve been lied to consistently.
Just last night some people waiting at a free clinic told me how they really feel about BO….Free speech is at stake today! Yay for the internet and this blog!
Thank you so much TexasDarlin.
Excellent work and analysis.
Question re your comment that you think it possible that Obama may have been born near Mercer Island. Do you happen to know if anyone has checked birth records in the state of Washington for August 1961?