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	<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 14:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Edwin</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/03/obama-and-the-hoi-aristoi/#comment-1054471</link>
		<dc:creator>Edwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for your post. Absolutely excellent information and very useful for me. Great done and keep posted. Looking forward to reading more from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for your post. Absolutely excellent information and very useful for me. Great done and keep posted. Looking forward to reading more from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Even the New York Times Editorial Board Turns on Obama : NO QUARTER</title>
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		<dc:creator>Even the New York Times Editorial Board Turns on Obama : NO QUARTER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Obama and the hoi aristoi&#8221;  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steven Mather</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/03/obama-and-the-hoi-aristoi/#comment-420940</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Mather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear sfhillary,

Here are some examples of your "rapier wit."  I understand that some are responses to others.

"Good to know you guys are keeping your focus on the important issues: finding as many scary black people as possible to associate Obama with! Eyes on the prize, and all that…"

 "(stop me if I’m not writing with sufficient intelligence for you), and in fact (that’s in reality, I mean, not in your fantasy world)  In your happy little delusion land, Obama is in trouble. "

 "You are living in a dream world. Seriously. You haven’t the faintest clue what you are talking about this year. "

"Don’t wade into waters you do not understand, beebop."  

"But hey, you continue to delude yourselves that Obama is “toast,” “unelectable,” “cannot win.” You have a few more months to have fun with your cute little fringe hate site before you have to return to reality."

"You PUMA people, honestly, are a fucking joke. Your numbers are utterly miniscule — not even a rounding error in national electoral calculus — the traffic numbers on your network of sites are not growing (yes, we are watching, just in case, and they aren’t; NQ peaked right when Larry was promising a whitey tape and dropped way back down after the tape failed to surface). The vast majority of HRC voters will wind up voting Democrat this fall, for the simple reason that, hello, they’re Democrats. Unlike you hate site clowns"

As to your effect on free speech, please consider that many of the people that post here were driven off Democrat blogs for nothing more than differing from a pro-Obama perspective.  It is hardly surprising that they feel hostile to people that come in here using the same tactics that conquered their earlier homes.  I have experienced it first hand.  Analytic posts containing no ad hominem, racist, sexist, or homophobic commentary were removed because they did not agree with the Obama party line.  

Furthermore, locales that offered refuge were then flooded with the now f(l)amed Obamabots, such as happened in this thread today from you, though your commentary is less insulting or extreme.   This ties into my point about the assault on freedom of speech.  By flooding/polluting refuge blogs, or getting them shut down, Obamabots inhibit freedom of association by crashing the party.  

In this regard, Democratic sites were sanitized of discourse so they could provide Obamaesque meditative drones.  Fine.  We want our drones as well, but Obama supporters craving the rough and tumble discourse that their sites disallow feel the need to harass us.  

Finally, we would both be foolish if we thought that the more egregious posts were not the work of black ops people employed/motivated by those that want to discredit this blog.

Yours,
Steven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear sfhillary,</p>
<p>Here are some examples of your &#8220;rapier wit.&#8221;  I understand that some are responses to others.</p>
<p>&#8220;Good to know you guys are keeping your focus on the important issues: finding as many scary black people as possible to associate Obama with! Eyes on the prize, and all that…&#8221;</p>
<p> &#8220;(stop me if I’m not writing with sufficient intelligence for you), and in fact (that’s in reality, I mean, not in your fantasy world)  In your happy little delusion land, Obama is in trouble. &#8221;</p>
<p> &#8220;You are living in a dream world. Seriously. You haven’t the faintest clue what you are talking about this year. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Don’t wade into waters you do not understand, beebop.&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;But hey, you continue to delude yourselves that Obama is “toast,” “unelectable,” “cannot win.” You have a few more months to have fun with your cute little fringe hate site before you have to return to reality.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You PUMA people, honestly, are a fucking joke. Your numbers are utterly miniscule — not even a rounding error in national electoral calculus — the traffic numbers on your network of sites are not growing (yes, we are watching, just in case, and they aren’t; NQ peaked right when Larry was promising a whitey tape and dropped way back down after the tape failed to surface). The vast majority of HRC voters will wind up voting Democrat this fall, for the simple reason that, hello, they’re Democrats. Unlike you hate site clowns&#8221;</p>
<p>As to your effect on free speech, please consider that many of the people that post here were driven off Democrat blogs for nothing more than differing from a pro-Obama perspective.  It is hardly surprising that they feel hostile to people that come in here using the same tactics that conquered their earlier homes.  I have experienced it first hand.  Analytic posts containing no ad hominem, racist, sexist, or homophobic commentary were removed because they did not agree with the Obama party line.  </p>
<p>Furthermore, locales that offered refuge were then flooded with the now f(l)amed Obamabots, such as happened in this thread today from you, though your commentary is less insulting or extreme.   This ties into my point about the assault on freedom of speech.  By flooding/polluting refuge blogs, or getting them shut down, Obamabots inhibit freedom of association by crashing the party.  </p>
<p>In this regard, Democratic sites were sanitized of discourse so they could provide Obamaesque meditative drones.  Fine.  We want our drones as well, but Obama supporters craving the rough and tumble discourse that their sites disallow feel the need to harass us.  </p>
<p>Finally, we would both be foolish if we thought that the more egregious posts were not the work of black ops people employed/motivated by those that want to discredit this blog.</p>
<p>Yours,<br />
Steven</p>
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		<title>By: WildChild</title>
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		<dc:creator>WildChild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now would probably be a good time for you to leave the room for a bit an cry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now would probably be a good time for you to leave the room for a bit an cry.</p>
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		<title>By: Karma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a disposable society I can understand why Obama appeals to you then.

Since, he has disposed of all his positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a disposable society I can understand why Obama appeals to you then.</p>
<p>Since, he has disposed of all his positions.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeus</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/03/obama-and-the-hoi-aristoi/#comment-420613</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is your point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is your point?</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/03/obama-and-the-hoi-aristoi/#comment-420607</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never thought I would agree with Victor David Hanson, but he nails it about residents of Palo Alto, their Mercedes and Lexus SUVs, and their private schools.  My own neighbor here wears Obama like a fashion statement and therefore feels absolved of any guilt arising from status, wealth or race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never thought I would agree with Victor David Hanson, but he nails it about residents of Palo Alto, their Mercedes and Lexus SUVs, and their private schools.  My own neighbor here wears Obama like a fashion statement and therefore feels absolved of any guilt arising from status, wealth or race.</p>
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		<title>By: Karma</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/03/obama-and-the-hoi-aristoi/#comment-420450</link>
		<dc:creator>Karma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup...with old tube amps and vintage speakers.  ;)

If they only knew....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup&#8230;with old tube amps and vintage speakers.  <img src='http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If they only knew&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: andySF</title>
		<link>http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/03/obama-and-the-hoi-aristoi/#comment-420369</link>
		<dc:creator>andySF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all this from you, Sh*t, F**k, etc, and Maccain's the one with temper? What's your IQ by the way? It's over 140? if not, you have no right to bring that up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all this from you, Sh*t, F**k, etc, and Maccain&#8217;s the one with temper? What&#8217;s your IQ by the way? It&#8217;s over 140? if not, you have no right to bring that up.</p>
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		<title>By: StrawberrybitesBarky</title>
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		<dc:creator>StrawberrybitesBarky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should be a diary. Wonderful!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should be a diary. Wonderful!!!</p>
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