All is Not Well in the Kingdom of Obama [UPDATED]
By PaganPower on July 4, 2008 at 10:10 AM in Barack Obama, DNC, Daily Kos, Democratic Nomination, FISA, Firedoglake, Hillary Clinton, JustSayNoDeal.Com, National Security, PUMA, Salon
Editorial Note: Barack Obama (his very self) responds to the angst of his followers at the end of this post. Somehow I don’t think they will like it.
Not everyone is happy with Senator Barack Obama. Many of his once loyal followers have woken up from the trance they were in and have started exhibiting the first symptoms of normality. They are beginning to use rational thought and are actually questioning their Messiah. The wheels are starting to come off from the Hopey Changey wagon. And it couldn’t be a prettier sight.
Just look at what his loyal followers on Firedoglake have to say.
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SkinnyMinnie July 2nd, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Obama wasn’t my first choice, but as the primary campaign progressed, he grew on me (mostly by treating the electorate as grown-ups instead of fearful children).
Now, I want a do-over. The FISA capitulation was bad enough, but now he’s walking back his commitment to get out of Iraq? What is wrong with him? Did someone kidnap David Plouffe and replace him with Mark Penn?
barbara July 2nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
“And as Obama decides to be all things to all people, and nothing to anyone…”
And thereby hangs the tale. Because I expected integrity from Barack Obama. I expected at the very least that he would be a fierce defender of the Constitution. Remember the “taught constitutional law” meme? He had my loyalty (okay, trickle down loyalty from Gore and then Edwards) and he has some of my money. There will be no more money (he doesn’t need it — he can afford to cover Hillary’s losses) and the loyalty thing is in limbo. And I’m a staunch Dem.
This is not looking good.
I just love it. Those 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling appear to be spreading to the Obama camp. Maybe PUMAs have gone viral and we are contagious. Wouldn’t that be sweet?
Here is my personal favorite:
Jo Fish July 2nd, 2008 at 3:54 pm
In response to selise @ 10Selise, his (fucking stupid election-losing) consultants have no doubt told him he can’t win if he runs as a classic liberal, progressive, Democrat. He has to go for the “mommy vote” or the “NASCAR vote” or whatever group of swing voters that they have decided is most critical.
I am starting to wonder whether or not it might not be smarter at the Convention to flush an Obama candidacy down the shitter and pick HRC or John Edwards via some old-timey backroom dealing. It might not be easy, but it might keep us from letting Obama’s consultants put McCain into the White House.
What part of separation of Church and State does Professor Con Law not get? The Fourth Amendment?
Hey Jo Fish. You sound an awful lot like a PUMA to me. Because that is exactly our stance. If the frickin DNC can have illegal backroom deals to appoint Obama the nominee we sure as hell can insist that they have an upfront legal meeting to throw this say anything to get elected bum out on his petard. Then we can elect Hillary.
But if you thought a few comments on one pro-Obama blog represented the amount of discontent out there you would be sadly mistaken. Or is that jumping with joy?!?
A group of bloggers that typically hang out at the Orange Satan place decided to start up their own personal site at Obama’s official website. In a few days they have grown to be the largest group there.
These are folks that have gone beyond just complaining on the blogs. These folks are making a statement. And they are doing it in Barack Obama’s backyard.
I realize the writing below is a little difficult to read so here is the purpose of the group.
Senator Obama - Please Vote Against FISA
Senator Obama - we are a proud group of your supporters who believe in your call for hope and a new kind of politics. Please reject the politics of fear on national security, vote against this bill and lead other Democrats to do the same!
Isn’t that just the sweetest thing you’ve seen recently? Well, except for that picture you can’t get out of your head of Hillary kicking Obama between the legs.
But even this isn’t the worst of it. The Obama campaign is flat out lying about why His Majesty has decided to support FISA. Why doesn’t that me?
Obama advisor Greg Craig: Adding insult to injury
Greg Craig, a Washington lawyer who advises the Obama campaign, said Tuesday in an interview that Mr. Obama had decided to support the compromise FISA legislation only after concluding it was the best deal possible.
“This was a deliberative process, and not something that was shooting from the hip,” Mr. Craig said. “Obviously, there was an element of what’s possible here. But he concluded that with FISA expiring, that it was better to get a compromise than letting the law expire.”
It sounds reasonable. But apparently Obama has been giving bamboozling lessons to his advisors. Cause it’s a big load of donkey poop. And Glenn Greenwald proves it.
Craig’s statement is flat-out false. FISA — enacted in 1978 and amended many times to accommodate modern communications technology — has no expiration date. The Protect America Act, which Congress enacted last August to legalize warrantless eavesdropping on Americans, had a 6-month sunset provision and thus already expired back in February, restoring FISA as the governing law. Thus, if Congress does nothing now, FISA will continue indefinitely to govern the Government’s power to spy on the communications of Americans. It doesn’t expire. What Craig said in defense of Obama is just wrong.
The ever persistent Greenwald took this a few steps further. He e-mailed Craig and received no response. So he called and left a message. Craig finally returned the call and did what Obama surrogates do all the time. They claim to speak for what Obama really meant. But what else do we expect from a WORM?
After I read him his quote, explained that FISA won’t expire, and pointed out that his comment in the NYT therefore made no sense, Craig paused for awhile and then said that he meant that the “warrants under FISA would expire in August,” and Obama supported the FISA “compromise” to prevent that from happening. When I asked Craig if he was referring to the surveillance orders authorized by the Protect America Act that allow the Government to spy with no individual warrants (which have a one-year duration and do expire in August), Craig said that this is what he meant, and that Obama wanted to avoid having those surveillance orders expire.
As Greenwald acknowledges, this does not explain Obama’s sudden reversal on FISA. The facts tell another story entirely. So he keeps at Craig.
How can he be eager to avoid the expiration of surveillance orders which he opposed authorizing in the first place?
Craig, apparently doing his very best stammering Obama impersonation does not impress Greenwald. So he does the smart thing when faced with someone determined to offer only Cult-speak loop, he walks away. But not without laying the whole thing out there for us to understand in very easy to understand terms.
In the past, Obama has opposed the type of warrantless eavesdropping which those PAA orders authorize. He’s repeatedly said that the FISA court works and there’s no need to authorize eavesdropping without individual warrants. None of that can be reconciled with his current claim that he supports this FISA “compromise” because National Security requires that those PAA orders not expire and that there be massive changes to FISA. It’s just as simple as that.
So you see, it’s very easy to comprehend. Obama was against warrantless wiretaps before he was for them. And his reasoning is that our national security requires us to ignore the Constitution.
I “hope” he and his followers keep that in mind tomorrow when we celebrate the birth pangs of independence that led to our great nation. It should be educational for them. If not painful. As it should be.
Just Say No Deal!
[UPDATE] Below is Barky’s response to the furor created by his FISA decision. As you can see, Obama thinks that as long as he is allowed to spy on Americans the rest of us should give him a pass. Because according to him he is on our side. Except for the 1st, 2nd and 4th Amendments. If you don’t mind a little Iraq withdrawal bamboozling that is. And a dash or two of hoodwinking for good measure.
Democracy cannot exist without strong differences. And going forward, some of you may decide that my FISA position is a deal breaker. That’s ok. But I think it is worth pointing out that our agreement on the vast majority of issues that matter outweighs the differences we may have.
Oh, good news indeed! I just saw a report about this on CNN. Made my day.
Hahahahah
So funny
If you are in the UK what in the hell are you doing here bothering us Americans? What business is this of yours? Go bitch about Gordon Brown or something.
“I serve as a blank screen,” he wrote in “The Audacity of Hope
It is clearly something that he encourages also.
It makes me wonder what he does in person when people can see through him? The types that don’t feel the need to project themselves onto him, the ones that really listen.
It must be one reason he isn’t trying with Hillary supporters. They assume they are older working women with children.
That means moms. A child can’t fool a mom!
He clearly has issues with his own mother…
But that doesn’t mean he doesn’t respect/fear a mother’s radar to quickly spot the blank screen and continuous lies.
That is what mothers do with their children and their friends, heads turned, in the other room, or across town. You can’t fool mom.
I’ve been saying that for MONTHS. He’s that mirror in the Harry Potter books that shows you whatever you want to see. But mirrors only do that because they’re empty.
Some kid in Minn tried to sell his vote on ebay.
Relying on kids for a base is pretty dumb.
He must have thought that all of the Time Person of the Year Covers showed either him or Michelle ….
cofer — yeah Obama is a blank screen the content of which depends on who is paying for the production. I’m glad the Obamabots are finally seeing what we Hill/Dems saw quite a while ago. Whether you come from the left, right or middle Obama is a total phoney who will say anything for a big payoff. Obamabots think PUMA.
I believe he does have an agenda and none of us knows exactly what it is. That is scary. We can guess, based on his past - even scarier.
I feel that too. His merry band of terrorists are scary. We aren’t that old. We remember the 60’s and remember that bunch of idiots.
and of course “skinnyminnie” couldn’t help but try to DISS HILLARY’s CAMP as the reason something was wrong
someone replaced with PENN
I know Penn was no prize but she was HILLARY’s prize and they couldn’t HELP but throw her under as they sink in W.O.R.M. fader!!
Obama must be recalled as the presumptive nominee.
Hillary is the champion of the working class.
mawm — Hillary IS THE CHAMPION OF THE WORKING PEOPLE. However, the Democratic Party has made it very clear they are not interested in working people when they told the base to stay home. Perhaps there are some normal Democrats in the DNC or DLC if so, they must stand up to Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi who have made sure that the Dems will suffer huge losses this year. We don’t need 2 parties to stand up for the rich and well connected they can take care of themselves. Its the rest of us that ought to matter to somebody.
That is such a great statement…”We don’t need two parties to stand up for the rich and well connected”!!! That says it all. But when will these fools hear and understand the concept? I always said that rich people are rich because they have alot of money. We shouldn’t have to worry about them. They should have to worry about us. I have not figured out how all these middle class and below people have been fooled by the plight of the rich and well connected. It is funny to watch and sad.
They’ve been bamboozled. Hillary’s theme at the beginning was that she spoke for the people who were invisible to the powers that be. Those who were invisible to corporations, lobbyists, the RNC. I could see right away these people were invisible to BHO. He only sees the masses, screaming, fainting through the glare of the lights and confetti falling down. Narcissist, socipath, call him what you want, but please, lets not call him Mr. President.
first comment, Scully! good job! $5 for a gallon of gas or lunch with obama????? me, i’d take the gas.
This is good news to see people finally waking up. Now all we need to do is to assure that HRC remains on the ballot…obambi for sure want’s her off so the democrats have no other choice.
Thanks for the wonderful post.
The political calculus, clearly, is that alienating these people is a risk the Obama campaign feels is one they are willing to take. They must feel the wider electorate can be reached and the potential loss of these supporters (although being the most enthusiastic, isn’t a real likelihood) is more than mitigated by the folks that might come on board.
It’s even possible the louder these folks scream, the better. It’ll convince more middle Americans that BO isn’t like the “nutroots.”
Reminding everyone of Wright, Ayers, TUCC for 20 years, Pfleger and all those ties might help this.
Sorry, all the above to mean the real battle might be just starting. . .
Donna Brazile, Coward Dean and the DNC picked Obama because they thought he could bring in the religious voters. This is what DONNA BRAZILE wrote on NOV. 5, 2004, a few days after GEORGE BUSH won re-election, it’s called “Why Americans Hate Democrats” How TO Tap Into The Obama Factor. http://www.slate.com/id/2109328
Dick Morris was on Fox News Last nite,and said Mccain should go after Obama on his latest Video, because Obama was against Welfare Reform,and the 80% Blooper.Morris said, Mccain,could pounce of Obama’s Credability of this Video.Hope he does it soon. We need Hillary back, at least we knew where we stood.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p47xSvTzRv0
DICK morris said WHAT…but he loves barky and hates Hillary with a passion why would he want to help McCain.
I really wish they could go back to reporting the news instead of supplying advice.
Morris hates the Clintons and he wants McCain to win. If you ignore his anti-Clinton rants, what he says the rest of the time makes sense.
I think Obama got tired of his toe sucking. Now he hates Obama
I like how everyone is standing back and watching the gruesome spectacle unfold. The silence is deafening.
hope — We PUMA’s are being heard loud and clear and once the media gets their heads out of Obama’s ass they will be reporting this too–how can they not? Is it against Obama’s religion to pander to the left and the right until he gets the job? He kisses up to a group and once they are with him he kicks them in the teeth. For a crooked Politician he has a real dumb streak.
Someone compared Axelrod and Rove earlier, and an excellent point was made. Karl Rove knows politics which means he knows people and nourishes his own relationships with his colleagues. You don’t just cut and burn like that in any profession. Obama is making some stupid mistakes.
You’re right. PUMA’s are making themselves heard in this election, and it is shaking things up. If you form a PAC, no matter what they say about your bitterness, you show a committed vote. Politicians take that seriously. I am so proud of Democrats who have come forward and spoken out against these primaries.
the video is just all bullshit.. Thsi guy has not anything in his life!
the video is just all bullshit.. This guy has not done anything in his life!
My favorite snippet:
“that picture you can’t get out of your head of Hillary kicking Obama between the legs.”
Except that’s not quite how I see it. The way I see it, it’s Big Dawg that kicks BO between the legs, then spins him around and kicks him in the ass right off the Convention stage.
And then Hillary looks at Bill, shaking her head and saying, “Oh Bill…..” but then breaks out in that rich, full-throated laugh. And the audience roars and laughs with her.
And then all will be well, and all will be well, and all manner of things will be well (to paraphrase from King & Straub’s The Talisman)
It’s a dream I have…
You Have a Dream. A nice dream. A dream I would like to see manifest in reality.
pagan power — Thank you for that wonderful post. I have been waiting a hear to read a post like that. ITS HAPPENING–Thank you God.
Thank you for another awesome post Pagan Power!!
BOOYAH!!!
PUMA!!
I have this dream often too… AnNd when he boots barky off the stage he lands on top of Meeeeshellll and she starts screaming…. “I hate this country! I hate this country! bawwwwwww!”
Dw–
Actually, that quote is originally by Julian of Norwich, a thirteenth-century English anchoress and spiritual writer who most famously described God as “mother” — in nerdliness,
Nemo
who most famously described God as “mother”
Nemo -
Thank you for that information! It makes the quote even more meaningful to me.
- DWPforHILL
I love this blog.
PLEASE, allow me to share that dream….Pure blisss…..
The Clintons are Lovers not Fighters.
I love the way Hillary said, “I’m winning the swing states” after the WV primary.
Like they say…”From your lips to God’s ears.” A very satisfying dream!
I don’t know what the zombies are complaining about; they all wanted CHANGE, Obama promised them CHANGE and he is keeping his promise. Geez, what the hell ELSE could they want? A program, a policy, a plan? Yuk, that’s so twentieth century. This election is about CHANGE! Ooops, gotta go and see what B.O. has changed into now. A clown suit maybe?
I don’t know if you watched any of the republican debates (I watched all dem and repub ones), but one of the best lines was when Romney mentioned change, and McCain said something like “yeah, no one can deny that you’re the change candidate, all right” in regards to Romney’s many flip-flops. I’m sure he’s practicing that one for Obama.
Good point. BOBO promised the BOBweenies change and he has come through for them. He changes his positions with the seconds of the day and they love him for it.
He was for it before he was against it/or he was against it before he was for it - depending on what issue we are talking about (this week).
FISA
NAFTA
Public Financing
Death Penalty
Gun Control
Choice
Did I forget anything he changed his mind about (this week)? I’m so glad the dems aren’t nominating another liberal wishy-washy candidate again. Oh. Nevermind.
publicly funding faith
Iraq
Talking to America’s enemies without preconditions
Presidential seal
more will follow next week as soon as he opens his mouth…..
Separation of Church and State is kind of a BIGGIE.
Equal Pay. He probably didn’t change his mind. He just got caught.
apishapa — Obama plans to let Employers hire and fire based on religion. Oh hell yes — lets go back to those dark days when you could be fired because your Jewish. Whatever our problems we are an assimilated country. We don’t need Obama weakening the foundations of this great nation with his penchant for hate. Sounds to me like payback for the many years when blacks couldn’t get jobs because of their color. Two wrongs don’t make a right — unless you are so full of hate and PAYBACK IS THE AGENDA. Watch Obama screw us all.
AND debating Mccain anytime, anywhere!
Change we can all believe in!
CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
— a signature protest symbol is the
KEY
PROTEST
hold your keys high and shake them wherever Obama may be
Obama has no character at least that he is willing to show us…lets make this key shaking a symbol of his lack of character, his flip flops,
its easy-go anywhere–can’t strip you of them at the gate…and they cant spot you ahead of time and remove you.
The tie in is that McCain is afraid of the sound of keys because his viet guards’ keys rattled as they came to torture him.
Even if you dont like McCain you at least know what he stands for…that is character….not taking an early release from Viet captivity when he had the chance…that is character.
PS Donate to Hillary today so she can be free of Barrack—-dont make her have to drink anymore Kool-aid
Heidi Li has a BO word “foragainst” it pretty much describes all his stances
All the party needs to do to let Hillary back in is to hold an open and transparent convention, allow her name on the ballot and ask the delegates to vote their conscience for who they think will win in November.
That is why there ARE Super Ds!!! And why they ARE NOT supposed to say who they are voting for BEFORE a convention vote!!!!
but that would be toooo democratic for the “new Democratic Party.”
pm 317 - let me see Obama’s threat to that is rioting and burning down cities and the Democrats recoil in fear. Why did I vote the party line for 44 years? No wonder the D’s don’t win they are afraid of their own shadow.
Has anyone see the latest report in which Backtrack said “I don’t think mental distress qualified as the health of the mother.”
Women are not cows. Who care about mental distress of a pregnant cow. As long as the cow is physically strong enough to deliver the calf, the farmer is happy. Apparently Backtrack think women are cows.
I’m still shaking my head in disbelief that the Democrat Nominee has this view. And NARAL endorsed this man?!
Oh, how I miss Hillary.
joeysky — Backtrack Obama — I love it.
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larry –thx for the link
i am maxed out but i had my hubby do it .
pls keep us uptodate about HILLARY ,AFTER SHE IS THE REASON WHY we are together as family fighting for the same goal …thx again
and HAPPY 4TH JULY …U R A GREAT AMERICAN.
All of this seems to be nothing but more Cult-Aide to help the O-bots sleep better at night. I’m sure Barky wouldn’t want them to start drinking so heavily that they fail to make their Moonie-like rounds or even forget to vote on election day.
What the MSM needs to glom onto is this birth certificate controversy. If BO is not a natural-born citizen, he’s done. If there’s just something embarassing on the bc, like a name change, etc., then he needs to get it behind him as best he can. The whole thing is growing like The Blob. It’s not going to go away, and he’s already acknowledged the problem by posting a “birth certificate” on his site. Thus, his camp can’t argue that the question is beneath contempt or that he’s above such internet controversies. The drumbeat is getting louder every day, and all he has to do is meet with a small group of reporters and hand them a paper copy.
Love this line:
Why any of these supposedly smart people on FDL and other sites thought that a Richard Daley machine flunky would be a classic liberal is beyond me. Any observer of politics in the last 50 years knows that to make in Chicago politics at any level you have to play along or they will run you out. I thought naivete was playing in the simplistic and childlike trust some were placing in this corrupt pol. I finally decided that they are not as smart as they pretend to be. It is going to be very hard for many of them to acknowledge their enormous blunder and I am not sure some of them can stand the ego hit. They are simply silly.
The good news is, they’ll be alone in the voting booth (if they even bother to show up). No ego hits there.
But I agree that this has dome more the revitalize Hillary’s campaign than anything. Let’s troll them at the Convention and make ‘em squirm! Who’s got a link to the Million Man March in August?
I miss Hillary too. With Obama supporters beginning to defect I may change my mind and donate $20.08 to Hillary today if for no other reason in that it is July 4th. I love the United States immensely and am so grateful to be living here. Despite her showing support for Obama which to some extent she has to do, I feel retiring her debt is important for what she has done for us already and what she will be doing for us in the future. If anyone is a model of hope and change it’s Hillary Clinton-without question. I heard Celine Dion sing God Bless America today on the radio and got tears in my eyes. Thank you Hillary for standing up for us, for what’s right and for this wonderful country.
Flip Flop Flipper
Have a laugh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4me3Trq7HQ
Great chuckle! I loved the dog at the end.
Yep that dog is a very smart dog!
Very funny - why did they disable the ratings feature, I wonder?
“”"But I think it is worth pointing out that our agreement on the vast majority of issues that matter outweighs the differences we may have.”"”
The vast majority of issues THAT MATTER!!???? So FISA doesn’t matter to him??????? He thinks this is trivial??? Now I KNOW this man put WAY TOO much blow up his nose!
sjc-tx — Classic spousal abuser — Forget that I just beat the crap out of you. Remember when we took that great vacation to the Adirondacks. You know you still love me–hah
Obama is flip-flopping, no doubt. But replace him with Hillary Clinton??!!?? You’ve GOT to be kidding me! NO WAY. She’s the biggest flip flopper of em’ all. See: Nukes, Iran, Iraq, immigration, economy, her support of Senator Obama itself, etc etc.
John Edwards was probably the best of the three but he didn’t have a “novelty” thing going for him. He was just another white dude. Kucinich was the most progressive of them all but was disenfranchised from the get go. Wasn’t even allowed to debate. That’s why it’s so laughable to hear folks yapping about how Hillary was “suppressed.” LOL!
Denial is a disease…
thought it was a river in Egypt
Does everybody she what I mean. This BOBOweenies excuse for sticking with BOBO no matter what BOBO does… Hillary would be worse. LOL such is fringe.
She is worse, WildChild. It’s compatible to believe that while still disagreeing with Obama on some issues. It’s the same ol’ same ol’. You pick the person you agree with the most while understanding that every politician has to make compromises, particularly in a pluralistic society such as ours. This is like, kindergarten stuff.
LOL right, she’s still worse. How we’re not sure since BOBO is flip flopping around on the dock like a beached croaker, but you know how it is, She’s still worse BWAH HA HA HA HA.
Isn’t it funny when Clinton supporters weren’t jumping on the BO bandwagon, all you heard was, “Hey man, they’re almost identical on the isuses” Now that Obama sucks and you say let’s go Hillary, all of a sudden “She’s much worse. No way, blah, blah, blah.”
I say (with sarcasm fully intended), “But isn’t it about the issues?”
Hahaha. Funny whent he shoe is on the other foot.
Obama the uniter, unites all against him and against the DNC apparently.
If you aren’t in denial, you must be near it. These are the old cut and paste points we’ve seen before.
wakeup — you miss the point. Obama was new and he elected to come across as post partisan and post racial. Now he shows himself to be nothing more than a knock down drag out politician and a racist who loves to label everyone else. Whats so new about that? Dirty politicians are a dime a dozen and a person without a resume cannot afford to be anything but squeeky clean.
They could have picked any Chicago pol. It’s their own fault they picked a moron.
wakeup — even a broken clock is right twice a day. Obama has no idea where he stands on the issues until the checks come in. If it were not for the media Obama would be nowhere near the nomination–this supposed cross between JFK, MLK and the Messiah has been sold to the public 24/7. If it weren’t for Obama shooting his himself in the foot everyday he might just have made it–but the fact is we are hurting out here and we are looking elsewhere for competence.
Wakeup -
Who do you want in the White House: McCain or HRC?
Now comes the time when we get to shove all the “it’s better to elect a Democrat that McBush” arguments in your face.
Hillary can beat McCain. Obama can not. Take your pick…
Hillary Clinton is the BETTER NOMINEE, THAT WAS STOLEN FROM HER! I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR OBAMA! I can’t believe AMERICAN”S would actually vote for someone that was raised in a marxist/communist home/ the values of his mother! HE affiiated with people like Bill AYERS, REV FARAKAUN,REV WRIGHT,ETC! WHY would ANYONE HELP to elect HIM to the WHITE HOUSE???????
wake up — Hillary had this nomination stolen from her. She could have fixed this country because she cares enough to do so. Remember those bad old 90’s — what part of peace and prosperity did you hate? They had you convinced that having a Dynasty was the worst thing in the world. One thing about a Dynasty is that you know what you are getting. Unlike this empty suit–who doesn’t know what he stands for until the check arrives.
Reverse racism and reverse sexism. Gotta love Edwards supporters, though he was as crooked as they came. He probably came up with the idea to screw Michigan.
I guess they know now what it feels like to be stabbed in the back by their own party in a way.. with all his I am against this and now I am for it crap..how many free flops is this guy going to get from his supporters?…yes some are seeing the light, finally…but with all the media cover up and make up…I believe the truth will prevail but how long is it going to take for that to happen?..little green footballs has up a great post leading to the Boston globe…check it out when you have a chance..those poor people in Ill…..
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30542_Obamas_Grim_Proving_Ground
PUMA!
Hillary/McCain’08
The comments are enlightening …
HERE YE, HERE YE!
Hillary or McCain 2008.
Do not be snookered by the DNC’s annointed flip flopper.
Seriously, they are now waking up? Why the H*ll did they believe him in the first place?
Do these morons live in the real world or the Matrix?