NO DEAL: Current DNC “Brain Trust” a “Lost Cause”
By NoQuarter on July 4, 2008 at 9:00 PM in Barack Obama, DNC, Disenfranchisement, Hillary Clinton, Howard Dean, Just Say No Deal, JustSayNoDeal.Com, Nancy Pelosi
From HRCin08’s channel, and inspired by:
Video Inspired by 7/1/08 Letter to Jonathan Mantz, Hillary Clinton’s Campaign Chair, by Lady Boomer NYC http://www.ladyboomernyc.wordpress.com
as posted on my blog: Come A Long Way http://www.comealongway.wordpress.com
Dear Jonathan,
I am part of the Just Say No Deal, Puma Pac Coalition. Our coalition, which includes an estimated 2 million voters and hundreds of pro-Hillary bloggers, has mounted an all-out, concerted, viral campaign to help retire Hillary’s debt. I am self-employed and, like many, have devoted the last five months to helping Hillary get elected. I will be sending $20.08 on July 4th as part of the campaign to retire her debt, so she can declare her financial independence.
Because of this hijacked election mounted by the DNC and other Party leaders that 1) forced an arbitrary, unfair, and fraudulent DNC RBC decision on the electorate; 2) displayed or did nothing to quell the hatred, sexism, and race-baiting hurled at the Clintons during the campaign; 3) strong-armed Superdelegates to “decide” against the popular vote BEFORE the Democratic Convention; 4) selected an unqualified, untested, combination far-right and far-left candidate; 5) threw overboard the electable candidate along with the Democratic Party’s base; and 6) purportedly will not have a floor vote for Hillary at the Democratic convention:
I Will Not Now or Ever Vote for or Contribute to Barack Obama.
You asked what I will do, and there you have it. I honor Hillary’s exquisite campaign and candidacy and hear her again and again ask us to support Obama. However, in the end, my allegiance is to Democracy and the Constitution more than any one candidate or Party. The Democratic Party and Donna Brazile, who said the Party can make it without us, no longer speak for me. It is not about Hillary, nor hurt feelings for losing. It is about our rights as citizens which trump Party and candidate. By the way, like many of our coalition members, I am a lifelong Democrat, raised in a family of Democrats, whose first vote was cast for George McGovern.
Many of us understand that, as a politician, Hillary has to do what she has to do. However, we are not politicians and many of us will be holding our noses and casting a protest vote — if the presumptive nominee doesn’t self-destruct in the meantime and the Party come running to Hillary to save it. Me, a dreamer? Perhaps. A fighter like Hillary? Absolutely.
Lady Boomer NYC
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Soundtrack is “Lost Cause” by Beck.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE- JUST SAY NO DEAL
http://www.justsaynodeal.com
We are going to get those no goods in November!
Fitzmas!!
HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT
HILLARY WILL BE POTUS
Clinton will be the next Democratic POTUS. Hopefully in ‘08.
Trolls about…guess the shapeshifting of Precious Presumptious is getting the Obamaphilics agitated. High school can’t resume fast enough!
LMAO! Agreed.
I wish summer was over so these Obamanuts would get back to doing homework, instead of interrupting the adults.
And probably had Cheeto spewing laughter echoing off his parent’s basement walls as he typed his screen name, TBing LJ.
How original and so sophisticated.
When they follow a leader who doesn’t even know how many states there are then one can easily conclude that these Obama followers don’t have a clue.
NO WAY NO HOW will I ever vote for Obama not even if Hillary is on the ticket.
Hillary’08 and if not to be then McCain ‘08
Not even Clinotn/Obama?
What is it about “Obama is unqualified” that you do not understand?
It would be one of those deals like Hillary campaigning for Obama. Do what is necessary for a win in November … and hope he brings more to the table than Lieberman did for Gore or Edwards did for Kerry.
Obama brings Wright, Ayers, Phleger, Meeks, Sharpton, etc to the table — we don’t need that type of baggage.
Edwards??? Were you paying attention to that campaign? Edwards broke his hump for Kerry, who folded with a full-house.
Clinton/Obama would be acceptable (barely). Obama/Clinton would not.
That is just putting lipstick on a pig.
Not even Clinton/Obama
Defeat Obama - NOW!
I’m with you 100% there!
Roosevelt’s DNC is dead; it is denied a proper funeral by the neo-Dem leaders who pretend it still exists in hopes that we won’t notice and unite behind their inexperienced Flim-Flam man.
Chicago-style politics instead of the will of the people have decided the outcome of the party’s election process. Clinton victories include AR, AZ, CA, FL, MI, NH, NV, NJ, NY, MA, PA, PR,SD,TN and WV, but the neo-Dems have forced the end of her campaign.Clinton won the popular vote and earned more primary votes for President than any Democratic candidate in this country’s history, but the new DNC will have none of it.
Before its Denver convention, the new DNC has decided to consolidate its party machinery with Obama’s campaign and move its operations from Washington DC to Chicago. The Denver convention will be nothing more than a celebration of Barack Hussein Obama and whatever he believes in August.
This is about much more than Hillary Clinton; it is about country, principles and beliefs, and what will happen to that we hold most dear if this nation elects another untested incompetent to the highest office in the land. Even if Hillary
were offered VP; she would have no control over
this megalomaniac and his Chicago machine.
This is about the role of our leaders and their responsibility to citizens in a democracy. Democratic leaders worked together to circumvent the will of the people and empower an inexperienced, far-left candidate with questionable friends and associates. Others in high position allowed it, did nothing to stop it, and by their silence condoned it. We must be diligent and never forget that there are forces that want to dilute or even dissipate our collective power.
Remember in Novenber to remind the neo-Dems that actions have consequences. Like the Republicans, they cannot be trusted. We must have a President who will ensure the checks and balances of power that are founders valued. Remember in November; it is time to take our country back.
Clinton or McCain, 2008; there is no other viable option for our country.
I agree. Senator Obama is popular among some, but not among those who have seen how the DNC rigged the primary to give him the nomination. The collusion is underscored by the DNC move to Chicago. Dishonesty on this level cannot be rewarded by an election to the Executive.
I think this says it best:
Stop the drama, dump Obama!
Now, as for the rest of it — I donated, but I’m unsure if I got the Senate campaign or the Presidential pay-down. I donated through e-mail, but it was the last one (the Unity one that made me grind my teeth) — and it went to the right screen but had “Friends of Hillary” at the bottom instead of “Hillary for President.” I wrote to the people through the contact button at the Hillary Clinton.com website and told them I want this to go for her Presidential campaign only, and that I am a member of three groups trying to help pay down this debt, all of whom are part of the Just Say No Deal coalition.
At any rate, I will never vote for Obama. Not ever.
Here’s my ticket for this year:
Clinton/Edwards ‘08. (And I do mean Elizabeth Edwards, btw.)
Wow. THAT is a dream ticket.
totally agree. talk about kick ass!!! Finally we’d pay attention to matters which are critical!
Daaaaaaaamn.
Will make a good health team for President Obama, but I would suggest to get things done Eliabeth Edwards should head it up, Hillary would make a likeable enough assistant.
say what??????
We’re Not Gonna Take It (Twisted Sister; Remember?)
Obama, we’re not gonna take it
No, we ain’t gonna take it
Oh we’re not gonna take it anymore
We’ve got the right to choose it
There ain’t no way we’ll lose it
This is our life, this is our song
We’ll fight the powers that be just
Don’t pick our destiny ’cause
You don’t know us, you don’t belong
Oh we’re not gonna take it
No, we ain’t gonna take it
Oh we’re not gonna take it anymore
Oh you’re so condescending
Your gall is neverending
We don’t want nothin’, not a thing from you
Your life is trite and jaded
Boring and confiscated
If that’s your best, your best won’t do
Oh Oh
We’re right (yeah)
We’re free (yeah)
We’ll fight (yeah)
You’ll see (yeah)
Oh we’re not gonna take it
No, we ain’t gonna take it
Oh we’re not gonna take it anymore
Ahhhh a headbanger after my own heart!!
but we need the youtube too, where is it hang on….
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eyu7nN3kBnw
twisted sister
I know that I’ve asked this before but I’m just curious if anyone else has noticed this.
Last weekend though some London sources Bill Clinton supposely said that Obama could “kiss his ass”.
On Monday through some Obama sources there was supposely a phone call between Obama and Bill. The phone call supposely brought the two of them together.
Yet I have noticed that we have not seen Bill actually say this directly through any type of media. I have a feeling that Bill will do some type of campaigning.
Yet its been a week and we all know that for this type of announcement from Bill the media would be at his beck and call in two seconds.
Does anyone else find it strange, or is it just me?
Hey it has been almost a week now, and Obama has been all over the news.
Bill Clinton despises Hussein Obama - Anything you see Bill doing for the lying sack of crap is all SHOW!
SOMEONE SHOULD COME UP WITH AN AD SHOWING OBAMA AS A FISH WITHOUT WATER, FLIP FLOPING ALL OVER THE PLACE
The Old Media and certain blogs are good at putting inflammatory rhetoric in Bill’s mouth. They always seem to know what evil thoughts are coursing thru the Clintons’ minds.
Bill like Hillary is a loyal Democrat and do his best despite what the back stabbing wankers from Joe Lieberman on have done to him.
“The Old Media and certain blogs are good at putting inflammatory rhetoric in Bill’s mouth.”
They’ve lied about him like this many, many times.
So it amuses me that you still think Fox is fair and balanced and that there are people foolish enough to fall for the candidate who voted to impeach Clinton.
No one sane will vote McSame.
I would love to see Obama kiss Bill Clinton’s ass, right on stage with 50,000 of his zombies watching.
Then Obama can kiss Hillary’s ass and drop out. And that is change I can believe in!
Be careful…Barky might enjoy that.
Big Dawg hasnt said a word publicly himself and I hope he doesnt until Hillary is standing next to him at the convention!!
BOOYAH BILL!!!
BOOYAH HILARY!!!
WE LOVE YOU!!!!!
Who do we want?
HILLARY CLINTON FOR PRESIDENT
Thats who WE want
Hillary Clinton can beat McCain..Go Hillary!!! RISE
JUST SAY NO DEAL TO OBAMA. Obama is deceitful, a hypocrite and a liar - just in case you didn’t get the message. A hopey-changey-snake charmer.
NOBAMA!
GO Hillary!
GO PUMAs
Re: Obama - you are being charitable (sp?).
Maybe the phone call went something like this:
Barack Obama: Bill, I heard that you want to help us.
Bill Clinton: No, I don’t, but I have to say that anyway. What d’you want to do about it?
Barack Obama: (stunned silence)
Bill Clinton: Well, have a nice day.
(Click)
Hillary epitomizes what is great about America.
The New Democrats are a maggot infested cesspool which needs to be defeated for the sake of our country.
We must say NO to the internationalist socialists, the Chicago mob, the wussies at the DNC and the super delegates who are trying a hostile takeover of America.
McCain is the FIREWALL!!
God Bless America!!
Thanks to Larry and Susan for a great web site.
And a Happy 4th to all the patriots here on this site!
in the northwest — I was thinking the same thing. I think Obama is still trying to get Clinton on board and in the meantime they lie and say he will campaign for them. Obama and his campaign do nothing but lie–
PUMA people are hoping that the Democratic party under the leadership of Dean, Reid and Pelosi will come to it’s senses and rethink Obama. Don’t hold your breath, these are the same people who managed to get a lower approval rating for Congress than the President enjoys.
This is really sad because me and others like me will either sit this November out or vote for john McCain.
The only way out that I can see that doesn’t result in destroying the party or bloody the streets is if Patrick Fitzgerald has something on Obama.
Dean must go.
There is no “coming to his senses.”
The Clinton’s have had little confidence in him, and it has become crystal clear why.
It seems like a lot of our problems, including the MI, FL disenfranchisement could have been avoided and weren’t because of personal vendetta.
When Dean goes, Brazile is positioning herself to take his place. (Every time we think it can’t get any worse; the neo-Dems prove us wrong.)
There needs to be some house cleaning: Dean, Pelosi, and Reid all need to go. The best way to achieve this is to vote for McCain and defeat Obama. If Obama is defeated they will see the error of their reasoning on thumbing their nose at Hillary. The Republicans do not want to go up against Hillary, she is an excellent campaigner and destroyed Obama in the last debate that he left crying.
You mean the error of their hatred?
This was a full-fledged intra-party coup. Those who were out of favor with the Clintons, had personal or political gripes or were just impatient, went for the jugular. It was cannibalism.
My spouse was a Clinton supporter who was
going to go on and vote for Obama in the GE . . .
until this week.
Says at least you know what you’re getting with McCain.
So was mine (my husband that is). He’s never once voted Republican but the FISA, public financing, war in Iraq, mortgate loan crap just got to be a little too much this past week. He’s now voting for McCain. Announced it to me last night and pretty much said the same thing your husband said “Obama has changed his positions too many times in the past week and I find I can’t support him anymore. I guess I’ll vote for McCain. At least I know where he stands on issues and doesn’t constantly change his mind.”
Obama on the top or bottom of the ticket is a losing proposition. I dont want to see Hillary dragged into his mess.
Hillary or McCain ‘08
Hillary or McCain, 2008; there is no other viable option for our country.
I’ll never support the man who, along with his hopey- changey campaign, smeared Hillary Clinton as a race-baiting serial liar.
Piss off Obamas.
I can’t help thinking that if Senator Obama’s paid student bloggers would spend half as much time researching their employer as they do to maintain a grade point average high enough to avoid being kicked out of college, $10/hour would no longer be enough money to buy their complicity in advancing his candidacy for President of the United States.
I saw an ad today in the Chicago Reader, a free progressive paper you pick up all over the city, for Obama Summer Workers who would make between $5000 and $8000 dollars for their campaigning for him his summer. Who says money can’t buy you love?
Ahh yes signing up dead people to vote no doubt……
There’s tons of Obama videos on YouTube. There is a huge push towards the youth market, probably to get exposure thereby to their parents.
I can’t see the Clinton’s giving up so easily. I thought I had heard on a Blog somewhere the night of the Meeting of Clinton backers,Didn’t Obama say something,about the Lawyers are working something out,for a role call at the convention? Sounds kinda funny, since I thought role call procedures was a natural occurence. I could be wrong, but maybe there waiting on who will be the lead of the ticket.I can’t see Bill Clinton campaigning for Obama,because of the bitterness between them. I do know Obama made the call to Bill,so maybe he just appologized. It’s possible, the Clinton’s won’t act until after the convention. I guess its a waiting game. In the mean time,I hope Obama keeps up his appearances with the Flip flops, and makes more Blunders,so it looks good for our girl Hillary.lol
I think there is a lot of confusion on how the selection process and convention works. Historically there is a roll call vote that allows the losing candidate’s delegates to cast their pledged votes for their candidate. Feel good speeches are made praising that candidate ad nauseum. It doesn’t have to be that way but it’s been the tradition.
There is speculation (wishful thinking?) that it won’t happen this August because there is fear the super delegates will come to their senses and there will be an upset on that first ballot and Hillary will be nominated.
I believe that there is a different reason, Dean wants to twist the knife same as the RBC did when they took four of Hillary’s Michigan delegates and awarded them to Obama.
Pride Goeth Before the Fall, the arrogant rats are going to sink themselves…
HILLARY WILL BE POTUS!!
BOOYAH!!!
Visualizing in the blue suit, hand on Bible, Big Dawg and Chelsea looking on proudly smiling, oh yes it will happen!!!!
Holy shit, I don’t go in for too much of that crystal/astroprojection/groovey/granola stuff but I have the exact same picture rolling around in my noggin’…could be the Vicodan though, but unless you’re popping pain meds too, I’n not sure how we could have the same…(ich)vision thingy.
All looking on, watching President Barak Obama being sworn in to office. What a historic moment that will be.
You are going to need very very very good drugs to see that. John McCain’s lovely wife Cindy will be measuring the drapes for the family quarters on November 5th if the Democrats don’t wake up.
The only excuse for Barry is that folling Bush is going to be a tough time. After Barry, ANYONE will look TERRIFIC!
go worry about the UK
Anyone can place a name in nomination at the convention and, if someone seconds the vote, it has to be accepted. Many times favorite sons have been nominated and allowed the first vote. If they try to change the rules at the convention, there will be a floor fight. The very idea they would take her name off the ballot infuriates me.
The very idea they would take her name off the ballot infuriates me.
What also makes me angry is knowing that the MSM will be there, doing everything they can to marginalize, patronize, and further “kill” Senator Clinton.
Dont sit Nov out!!!! I hear the DNC has been jumping for joy thinking of all the Hillary people who say they will not vote or will vote Independent.
Yet I understand that they are worried that these people just might go McCain.
The way I see it is we have a few choices if Hillary doesnt get the ticket at the Convention.
You can either not vote, or vote Independent–that will be just like voting for Obama.
Or you can vote McCain…At the rate Obama is going now with his all his flip flops and changes Obama’s stance will probably be more conservative than McCain’s.
With McCain I truly believe that he cares about America, its future and ALL Americans.
Hillary ‘08
McCain/Hillary ‘08
McCain/?? ‘08
I am thrilled to vote for John McCain on so many levels. I think both the parties, so that’s irrelevant. I really admired the progressive strain of the Democratic party and felt tremendous sadness as I saw those causes perverted by the Obama campaign. If Hillary’s campaign had neutralized him early on, then those causes would have been served admirably by one of the best presidential candidates in our history. I think her abilities and grasp of policy with Bill as the perfect adviser… so much good could have been accomplished. I really cried for that lost opportunity.
They should worry. If Obama is certified, I will do the unthinkable–I will vote for McCain, not because I support McCain’s policies [although I think he's right in the energy issues] but because I’ll be casting a protest vote.
Anyone but Obama; any group other than the current leadership of the DNC.
And I have to tell you, there’s a whole lot of people in the Smoky Mountain region who feel the same way. Obama campaigning at NASCAR should be very interesting.
PUMApac.org
k in the northwest — I agree. I will vote for McCain to stop Obama and because he’s a man of principle.
I think that is BS.
Why then have they blamed Nader for the Gore and Kerry losses if not for the third party votes that they think should have gone to their candidates?
I don’t think that people should not vote. I think that that is wrong. It’s a cop out. But to tell a Democrat that they can’t choose an alternative for their vote usually doesn’t work. There are plenty of people here who can’t vote for McCain and we are still very early in this campaign. We don’t know who the veepers are. If JSM picked, say, Fred Thompson, that would make me rethink him altogether. So. Let’s not tell people here who are Nader supporters that their voting for Ralph isn’t a vote against Obama. Because it is. And that means he has to get two other people to vote for him. If he’s relying on two kids to roll out of bed and stand in line, the liklihood decreases.
They just keep using that phrase - “get over it” - this time it’s Bill Schneider of CNN - They really don’t get it , we will never “get over it” - NEVER NEVER NEVER HUSSEIN OBAMA.
“Former presidents are supposed to be above politics, but Bill Clinton couldn’t be above it in this campaign since his wife was a candidate for president,” Schneider said. “But he was seen as too political. Democrats thought it was appropriate for him to support his wife but not appropriate to get overly critical of Obama.”
So can Clinton, who left office eight years ago with approval ratings well over 60 percent, repair his image with most Americans?
“He needs to show he’s gotten over it,” Schneider said.
Bill Schneider couldnt think his way out of a wet paper bag..the msm gets nada, they r trying to spin it cause Big Dawg wont talk for the empty suit..
WE LOVE BILL AND WE ALWAYS WILL
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IkMhWQgkZ8c
The Fifth Dimension
Bill We Love you so and always will
we look at you and see the peace and prosperity….
So vote against the candidate that voted for him to be impeached.
No sane person would vote McSame
Bill has been treated worse by his own party since leaving office. Impeachment was so long ago that it seems like another decade …. hmmmm. Oh, that’s right, IT WAS!
And where were all of the members of his party while his reputation was being slandered by a kid not capable of carrying much less filling his jock strap? Strangely silent, don’t you think?
Please. Don’t try to use issues that are not relevant here. We see you for what you are. Thank GOD you can’t vote.
UKforDems: look; people will vote for whoever they want; noone here is uninformed or stupid so please stop the patronizing suggestions about who to vote for.,
We are AGAINST OBAMA and that means many different things; it is not black and white. Okay?
BTW: are you a US citizen? If not please STFU; you are out of place.
shut up uk…..u r an idiot and a troll
And news reporters are supposed to stay neutral and report the facts and the public reaction to those facts. They are not supposed to inject their opinions into what is to be a news program.
They don’t seem to understand what reporter means. Just tell us the damn facts and keep your opinions to yourself. Nobody asked for them and everybody has one.
The only thing I “got over” was the MSM. I have completely boycotted CNN, MSNBC, NPR, NY Times, etc. for months, and I don’t miss them at all. Now, if I catch something in passing because someone else has it on, it looks like an SNL skit. It’s so vapid and ridiculous. These blowhards just love to hear their self-important selves blather on.
Me? I “got over it.”
And those cable channels couldn’t care less depending on the cable or satellite package you have you pay for those channels, and they get their cut, weather you block then or not.
Write your Federal and State legislators, your state PUC and the FCC to demand ala-carte programming. You can pick and pay for the channels you want. Put CNN and MSNBC out of business.
2 million members of puma alone. That’s significant. There are still 15% of her supporters who refuse to vote for Obama. That’s just polls.
Don’t you just love people who know what we think?
Nobody knows me. I think for myself.
The last time Schneider was right — Gas was 10 cents a gallon. We will not get over it and it infuriates me to hear that. Why should we get over it? They continue to demean voters who see through the mask that is Barack Hussein Obama. Schneider should get over it. The voters are speaking loud and clear–even though the media has pushed Obama’s candidacy 24/7 we are not buying it. Schneider should get over it.
good letter and i’m sure it will be passed on to Hillary. as have many other similar messages.
as for the obotomy trolls…well, i kind of have to remember that they help keep it green for me. keep the Democracy wound a bit open so i can remain very clear about who obama really is and whathis gang stands for.
good work trolls!
no bamocracy in the USA.
Let freedom ring!
Yeah, the trolls piss me off so royally that it just makes me more determined than ever to see that Obama is defeated. Most of the time when they make me really angry I feel better by just moseying on over to McCain’s site and donated anywhere from $5-$50. It really depends on how obnoxious they are as to what I’ll give McCain but Obama and his troll army must be defeated.
I will NEVER just “get over it” so they can stop saying that and “K in the Northwest” is absolutely right. A vote that doesn’t go for McCain will make it easier for that fraud to get the votes needed to put him in the White House. ALWAYS REMEMBER, Gore lost the Presidency by just 537 votes. USE YOUR VOTE WISELY AND DON’T LET IT COUNT TOWARDS OBAMA!
IDEA?
For those who are a member of a UNION that has endorsed Obama. Contact them and demand that they endorse Hillary Clinton.
What is the point in being in a UNION if your voice is not being heard. The UNION is pro-democracy. Change there minds before it is too late!!
Or they could just file a “Beck Agreement” objection and have their union dues reduced to the amount necessary to run the business side of their local and national with none going to political activism.
I notice there are a lot of Obamabots in this thread.
GOD DAMN MICHELLE HUSSEIN OBAMA!!!!!!
It’s time to not only do a grassroots internet movement against Obama. But, we must talk to family, friends, co-workers, anyone that will listen.
There are many people who not come to the blogs, and we need to spread the word.
I was at a 4th of July small gathering of family and friends. People are all over the place about who to vote for.
One family has totally switched from obama due to his religious issues - Dobson is making an impact.
One family didn’t want McCain because of the 100 years in Iraq - we must bust that deceit.
Everyone else were pretty much on the same page - no Obama.
But, we have alot of work to do.
HILLARY / MCCAIN
Because African-Americans voted solely for pigment during the primary, I will during the general. It is only fair. After all, this is how some segments of the electorate select a President.