The Democratic Party Dummies’ Guide on How to Appear Unpatriotic
By Soldier4Hillary on July 4, 2008 at 11:10 PM in Democratic party, PUMA, Patriotism, Soldiers/Veterans
The Democratic party needs a updated lesson in politics. I have never, ever seen anything such as what I have witnessed. I have only one recommendation, move away and separate the government policies and the military service of your opponent in your criticism, they don’t mix or belong in the grand scheme of things. It’s not a requirement for the position they are seeking to attain, and should be left out because there are hundreds of other issues that can be addressed that affect ALL the American people in our country as a whole on a daily basis. When you open the door to these type of comments, it has the ability to get out of hand and hurt more than help, when people become over zealous in their attempts to prove a point, that they eventually cross the line.
Anyone who has the audacity, the sheer gall to write an article stating any veteran received a lenient form of torture as a means to discredit the source, or attempt to paint a former prisoner of war as some form of war criminal, just to show someone else in a positive light, does not grasp or truly comprehend the possible backlash that could result from these articles. When those who have lost loved ones, or who have friends and family already deployed, and come across comments such as this:
- "What I’ve never understood is how getting shot down, captured, and tortured makes one a hero. I’m willing to concede the point, but still, I’ve always thought that heroism required some special sort of action, like the private who throws himself on the grenade to save his buddies or the guy who braves enemy fire to take out an enemy position or the Swift Boat officer who takes off into the brush, disregarding his own safety, to go after someone who attacked him and his men. I’ve never thought that everyone who is in the military or even who sees combat is therefore a hero. I thought that to be a hero was a matter of special distinction even within the military fraternity."
"A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government….President Bush has repeatedly violated the law for six years." Al Gore
by psnyder on Mon Jun 30, 2008 at 07:46:16 PM PDT
It opens a flood gate that no matter how you may spin it, will come out as being unpatriotic and out of touch. Nor will it make anyone see the the presumptive nominee, or the party itself in a favorable light if it appears they are broadcasting a message to their supporters, that the job that they do, is not really important. I am sure there are many who feel 100 percent differently on exactly what constitutes a "hero" in their eyes. Democratic party, do not go this route, do not attempt to go down the path of discrediting something many of you do not understand or truly know about.
This"Hollywood" version of a definition of a hero in the above comment is an example of being not only out of touch with our reality, but exactly what it is we do on a day to day basis. Use whatever judgment you deem necessary, but think long and hard about how you attempt to discredit the opponents military service. If you want to state that prior service is not a requirement for a president, which it isn’t, there are many ways to make the statement and send the message. But get your facts straight.
However blogs such as this is what causes righteous fury through my veins.
There is a difference, a big difference when you label veterans War Criminals based on their military service. You may not agree with the war or the administration, however we do not hold the power to determine where and when we deploy. The government officials who you elect are the ones who make these choices. So one would assume you would use sound judgment when making the decisions and choices of those whose positions hold the determining factor on the issue of national security. You get what you pay for. If you use frivolous means and reasons in making a important decision for the highest position our nation has to offer, do not become dissatisfied and take it out on us, when you develop buyers remorse later on down the line because what you thought you were getting differed greatly from what you received.
What so many people fail to realize is that despite how any of you may feel about the current administration or the war, this is a source of pride for so many. We volunteer, we raise our right hand, and we take an oath. So when I read the "scare tactics" with statements being made that if Senator McCain becomes president the draft could come back into effect. I, personally, speaking for myself, take it as a direct insult. Because your making the statement and giving the impression that there is something wrong with serving your country. And to me, thats pathetic. You focus on our war time mission and not what we do as a whole in garrison. The esprit de corps, the pride, and the overall knowledge of representing something a whole lot more meaningful and bigger than what is portrayed by the CNNs and MSNBCs is the information you do not get.
This provides a stepping stone for millions. It is not all about "war". But it is according to the blogs, and the media, who seem to have developed a difficulty in separating the two. Before you jump to making judgments based on what you see and hear in the MSM. Get the facts. No one thinks going to war is a pretty picture. Man up. Quit thinking with your heart and use your head. Constantly chanting "bring us home" is not going to do anything any faster or solve anything. The only thing it shows is buyers remorse and your ability to not truly grasp and comprehend why its important to "vet" individuals. To "ask" questions and not go on "just words". To learn from previous mistakes and stop using the same bad judgement twice based on pre written words alone. To view and analyze a situation by not thinking about what you just want and need, but what we ALL need as a whole. To look at the overall picture and not what anyone wants you to see is a sign of common sense.
As well as being able to understand that just words will not lower gas prices. Stating comparisons will not give you Universal Health Care. Speeches never make new jobs. And hopes and dreams will never keep the lights on and food on the table. And motivation and inspiration, if you "hope" hard enough, will never, ever, put your kids through college. That’s a fairy tale. Even the best teacher our country has to offer can give the slowest student the ability to grasp the fact that things such as this cannot be taught overnight. No matter how many words are used to say otherwise. Because in the real world, things are accomplished with realistic actions, based on plans, fact and not fiction. That, in my opinion, is a true solution for america.
What you don’t understand and fail to realize is that decisions such as this that are made will not always make you the most popular person but this isn’t a popularity contest, its reality. And in reality you have to set aside what you personally think is best, and think about how it will affect our entire nation and the impact it will have in dealing with other countries.
But then, that is when the American people come into play. If you don’t like the choices and decisions, we have this event that happens every four years here in the United States. It’s called "voting". Think about it. It’s amazing really. See, when you "vote" you have a variety of people who are seeking to attain certain positions. All of the candidates have various messages and platforms where they state what their intentions are if you elect them into office. But what is truly wonderful is the fact that you are able to actually research yourself everything the individuals have accomplished. All of it accessible to the general public, right at your finger tips. You can view their voting records, past bills, a whole wealth of things to help you in the pre voting process. You also have the ability to ask questions beforehand on their stance on the issues. They have it this way so that later on down the line, if you ever regret your decision, you can just blame yourself and no one else because the free information was right there in front of you to research. Because only an idiot would take words at face value for the highest office in our nation.
Voting is a wonderful tool that allows you to use your own judgment on who is best to do a certain job. But certain jobs come with certain responsibilities and have a certain purpose. And just like the firefighters whose job it is to put out fires, the police officers out on the streets who have loved ones who may worry each and every night they are out there, still fighting and attempting to prevent crime, we have a job to do also. You want us home. We get that. But right now, we still have a job to do.
But in the meantime, instead of criticizing what you may not understand, show your support, get involved. The reason people might not take your criticism and remarks seriously, might be based on the fact that its hard to think people have our countries best interest at heart if you use frivolous things as reasons for anyone to hold a position. Face reality. You get what you pay for. If you choose anyone based on just their nationality and their words, why would you be surprised at any of the choices and decisions they make? Especially when you freely admit you only chose them based on their nationality and well, just their words? If you chose to overlook their stance on the issues, you bought it, now you own it. If you make the decision to choose someone based on a prior job or position that they held because you see similarities in the current one they are attempting to attain, it’s your fault if the expectations do not coincide with what you want them to be.
I am in the military. Does that make me qualified to become president? No. Does it mean I should vote for a candidate based on that alone? Hell no. I am black. Does that make me entitled to become president? No. Does it mean I will vote for the candidate based on that alone? F%$C* No. So what is left? Do I understand what the word "rules" mean? Yes. Do I follow the rules? Yes, very closely, I like to read, and according to the rules, I probably will see many of you in Denver….but..
Before you start laying down the blame and pointing fingers and making accusations, try stating in the same sentence what you have done when it comes to evaluating and vetting the individual in question, believe me, it will make your remarks and criticism more valid. Right now, there are so many who don’t even have a leg to stand on with their remarks. There are avenues available such as Soldiers Angels, who send care packages to the same people overseas who everyone likes to use in talking points as a means to build up their message. Look at the overall big picture for yourself, instead of what they want you to see and believe. If you want "change", it may behoove you to "change" how you do business. Instead of continually stating what the problem is, why not start thinking of a solution?
You only get one chance to make the right decision before we all have to live with the consequences.
"We had the teacher, you gave us the student. We had solutions for America, you gave us hopes and dreams, when all we wanted was reality. We wanted change you gave us race baiting, we asked questions and got stuck with paid bloggers who constantly attack. We wanted the truth and got stuck with a whole lot of biased media and social pandering." This year I say No Deal. This unity pony sucks. P.U.M.A
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See also: “A Soldier For Hillary Writes a Rant [Updated]“
And here’s a video that Sgt. Patsy made herself on YouTube. Pagan Power posted this video in mid-June:
Soldier4Hillary; Thanks for you service and your well spoken views.
I’m gonna light of the fireworks now and the first one lit is in your honor and those you serve with.
Can Obama be impeached?
Did Obama ever serve in the ,miltary?
Patsy is a Hero - she has proved that throughout this desperate fight for Hillary against all odds and threats.
Whew! I’m exhausted watching that video, and is it GREAT! Get this woman recruited for SOMETHING in public service! Quelle energie!
Patsy gets even for us! She sure says it right when she says “You didn’t listen when we asked questions!”
Powerful. And thank you.
The clip of HRC on the needs of returning soldiers was stunning–in its detail and command of issues, and importantly, at the controlled outrage expressed, with clear and concise solutions, as you said. thank you very much that is saved and will be distributed.
cheap obama shots at military service, a master of deception.
I want to vote for Soldier4Hillary!!!!!
Clinton, Patsy, and mayor Nutter. Now there’s a team.
Great job…a real tell it like it is! I loved it…thank you.
She is great.
Thank you Patsy
THE TRUTH thats change I can believe in. THANK YOU
Patsy said something which is very true. We are flocking to McCain because we know McCain and we do not know Obama. We have not been allowed to ask questions and no one has vetted this man who has no experience and big money contributors.
I love her videos I have seen her before. I also love her and she tells it like it is.
Phenolmenal post! Excellent points. Fantastic insight and advice for ANYONE. Responsible voters will heed these points and keep spreading the message.
Power forward PUMA!
I think most of us have a narrow idea of a hero. But there are degrees to which we admire individuals for who they are. My admiration for many politicians do not put them in the niche of hero, but I’ve come close to put Hillary in one of those niches. I have great respect for McCain, and to put him in the same space as Calley is despicable. Anyone who’s visited Indochina would be appalled that a nation that had so powerful would fire bomb a nation like Vietnam or Laos. I happened to visit Laos in January 2001. As I looked at the peasants and their humble living, I could not understand what went through the minds of those in Washington that considered the Vietnamese and Laotian enemies. But I agree that those who served because their country demanded their service had little choice. We can get into a debate whether the regular German people bore any responsibility for accepting the call from their leader in 1939. I think it’s very difficult to be in someone else’s shoes and condemn them for acts that at the time were believed to be patriotic. Yet to this day, many men who thought were doing what was required of them are persecuted in the twilight of their lives despite their peaceful lives after the WWII. Go figure.
prabhata — If the Democrats and Obama attack McCain’s service they do this at their own peril. We are fighting two wars right now. We don’t need some novice telling us that someone else’s service doesn’t qualify him to be a hero. One thing which has changed from the Vietnam era is that we don’t blame the soldiers for the wars they are forced to fight.
McCain could have been released early but he stubbornly refused special treatment even when he was gravely ill. McCain knew his captors wanted the propaganda victory of the son and grandson of Navy Admirals accepting special treatment. He refused to be corrupted. THAT TO ME IS HEROIC.
Those who have not served should not demean the service of others who have. This is a lose lose issue for the Democrats.
Thank you Patsy.
My dad was a Vet — WWII through the Vietnam war when he retired. I grew up in the military.
It frightens me that the Democratic leadership would select someone who is unfit to serve as commander in chief of the military.
Hillary Clinton understands the military culture. Why would Obama even consider running for the job of President of the USA? He has shown himself to be completely inadequate as a US Senator. And he has turned in a less then adequate job performance in his previous jobs.
Hell — Obama would have been kicked OUT of the military — yet he has manged to BS his way through civilian life.
Hi Patsy! So nice to read your posts again. Great article with your usual common sense. Hope you had a nice 4th!
Patsy,
Beautiful and powerful. And, best of all, on target. Kudos.
It always seems the first to cast stones live in the largest glass houses. Obama lives in a glass mansion.
Miss you, Patsy. Thank you for this post and for what you shared with us.
Many thanks, also, for your service to our country.
God bless you always.
Well said Miss Patsy.
God bless.
Yes we need to stand up and continue strong.
Great post, Patsy. Yes, it is grotesque to have BO and his hateful supporters talking about McCain “getting out of jail” when finally freed from the Hanoi Hilton. Sen. Obama does not respect veterans and is completely out of touch with military operations despite being given the tremendous responsibility for overseeing NATO and the war in Afghanistan. That was done so he could gain experience and would be in a strong position to run for President…I guess he decided when a person gives as good a speech as he does experience being a leader is not required.
We must keep him away from commanding the largest and most powerful military in the world. Our troops deserve better…we deserve better. Democrats we must demonstrate in Denver that Sen. Clinton is our nominee and we will accept no substitutes. The Dem leadership may not like Bill and Hillary but we do…and the Democratic Party is nothing without us.
Ann-those who complain about other’s service — call attention to their own lack of service.
S Hall
Great point.
How stupid can a campaign be to question McCain’s war record on the week of 4th of July.
By doing so it just elevated McCain’s stature even more.
I’m reaching a point where I can vote for McCain because of who he is and not just vote against Obama.
I think it’s a very dangerous thing on the behalf of democrats to satrt throwing words like war crimals at soldiers that served in the Vietnam War. I work with to many vets, I live next door with too many, I am related to too many, i take care of too many. I think it’s time for democrats to walk up out of this Obamaland dream they are having and realyze that this is getting really ugly, really trivial, and look at the person behind it. Even during Bill Clinton’s sexual oddessey/ and Ken Stars magical mystery tour I didn’t see this much crap being thrown. but for people to attack McCain through attacking all Vietnam Vet’s, and calling them war criminal I think this is showing just how ugly Obama and the people that support him really are. Obama has crossed a line. I did not know that democrats were such weak minded people. I always thought that it was the republicans that wanted to fit people into this mold of perfection, and hate those that do not fit it. We have become the shifty, lying unpatriotic, uncaring people Republicans have alwasy said we were. I’m black so I never could be a republican, but in the last few months I’ve really felt like moving to Canada because we no longer really have voice in this country. This country may not have been perfect, and it’s founding fathers flawed but there was always a voice of reason. No matter how bigoted we became that voice was always there. But it’s no longer there. We have become so selfish, so extreme, so bigoted on ideals that we don’t even hear each other anymore. I read Al Gores book the Absences of Reason which I loved, and to hear a man that I greatly admired attack John McCain like that. I’m done. Obama turns my stomach. There is nothing even remotely healing or unifying about this man. he starts crap between people and then sits back slyly pretending that those aren’t his words but you know they are. MLK would turn in his grave if he saw the monster with zero character that people are holding up as the fufillment of his dream. The only reason I have even doubted my judgement of him, is becaus honestly I like Michelle and I can’t think that an intelligent woman would be married to an evil man. But Obama is the devil, and i’m not sure if I want to be anywhere near this country if he gets into office. This choas is just a foreshadowing of something far worse, and by the time our blind leaders see it it’s going to be too late. from Trinity, Tim Russet, and Oberman we see that Barak Obama leaves things in far worse conditions than when he finds it. It’s like when he uses things and sucks all the good out of it and throws it away. He did it to his church, his city, his state, he’s doing it to our Party, and if people don’t watch out will be our country. Bush made big mistakes but bush is a buffoon and he has made the same mistakes that bratty aristocrats through out history have made. People need to find out how much time Obama and Chaney really spent together, or maybe evil just runs in families. but his man is dangerous, and soon we will all be at each other throats for things that are implied. If something on this man they need to report it to shut him down quick, buecause this has stopped becoming about party or race, it’s becoming about our country. There will come a time when Obama runs out of people to scam, blame, or defame to excuse his character. Obama unlike Bush is extremely smart, so his blunders may hide something truly diabolical. Hillary is not peaches and cream she has a dark side, but I thanks to Ken Star and the national media I know her inside and out. And while ms clinton might have me knocked off if I cross her, I know she won’t trample my rights. We dont’ have this pleasure with Obama, and there are are times when Obama seems like he could have been Stephen Kings inspiration for Randall Flagg because really Obama is slowly but sure showing you he’s not adverse to take you rights away and the vast majoirty of people aren’t saying a damn thing.
… I think this is showing just how ugly Obama and the people that support him really are…
Exactly.
If any good comes of this, maybe people will start seeing what Hillary supporters have seen in Obama in the last 6 months.
I totally agree. When I hear Randi Rhodes and her ilk sneer at John McCain’s “alleged heroism,” I just have to cringe. First, it’s copying the tactics the GOP used against John Kerry in 2004- and “the GOP did it first” is NOT a legitimate excuse for this kind of crap. Second, it highlights the Democratic candidate’s lack of service, which is just stupid. Third, it feeds into the “liberals hate the military” canard that has delivered so many votes to the Republicans over the past several decades.
If Democrats really want to win the White House this fall, they won’t mention McCain’s service at all. God knows McCain, who according to the media is “reticent to discuss his Vietnam experience” (yeah right, he only mentions it every five minutes or so) will bring it up enough.
Of course, if Democrats really want to win the White House this fall, they’ll nominate Hillary Clinton, not a greenhorn who hasn’t gotten his feet wet and who changes his positions every other day.
Sgt. Patsy is SO RIGHT! It is fear…and horror at what we saw happening before our eyes as the RBC rigged the vote…and so much more. No on standing up against misogny and threats….
In a way, McCain is drawing people because on a subconscious level, he reminds them of what happened to Clinton. Remember how he was trashed by Bush in SC, how the race card was played using the color of his adopted child? And how he was mocked for then “hugging” Bush?
Well, years later, he is now the nominee. He bided his time…and I hope Hillary is biding her time. We cringe at her “unity” stance, but we know that is part of the game she has to play to remain in good standing in the party.
Meanwhile, we don’t bide OUR time…we expose the garbage that is at the top of the party now, and help clear the way for next time….or later this summer!!!
Patsy, thank you for your courage and service! I have always believed I would defend my country, with rocks, if I had to! That is why I would never discredit those who do so much more!!!
I am not happy with this campaign. I come from a family with a long list of veterans including a great uncle who was a POW in the Bataan Death March.
I was livid with the RNC tactics with John Kerry and Bush’s comments regarding McCain mental fitness in the 200 primary.
Being a veteran and even being a POW doesn’t make you qualified to be president. However, hanging out with the likes of Rev. Wright, Father Pfleger, Farrakhan, Rezko, and Bill Ayers doesn’t make you qualified either.
I wish your post could stay on the front page longer than the usual. You put a lot of work into this and are such a good writer, it should be up for as long as possible. Everyone should read this. Thank you, Soldier4Hillary! Keep up your good work.
I think we should name our Puma “Patsy”!!!
We appreciate your honor Patsy. We’re with ya all the way!
Make Dr. King Proud on the Anniversary of his “I Have A Dream” Speech.
Make his Words Ring Loud and Clear! Let’s prove him right!
Let “HIS” words come to Life in the 21st Century!
Mark your Calendars for the summer evening when Hillary comes to the podium in Denver to speak and to say: I accept the nomination of my Party and will be honored to lead you back to a path of peace and prosperity.
Right On! Hillary 2008!
Thank you Dr. King! We hear you still. Loud and Clear, Sir!
Stinky Diaper - TIME FOR A CHANGE?
You be the Judge:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/07/forgery_revealed_in_kos_public.html
Accusing McCain of being a war criminal is so unbelievably wrong. How would Barack Hussein like it if the fact his mother died of cervical cancer was her multiple sexual partners and promiscuity? After all it is the accepted medical view that HPV is necessary for cervical cancer–and that is a STD. How about his legitimacy as well? If the Obamabots want to get down and dirty there is far far more tabloid fodder from the Obama side. Bring it on ZOMBIES, I’ll take Mac at my back any day over Hussein.
The American people know John McCain, to do anything but praise his service is a huge , naive mistake.
Patsy thank you again for reminding us all.
And I agree the Democrats keep kicking themselves everytime they try to attack the military people.
I hope you and your family are well?
Your posts are my favorites.
The audacity of the Obama campaign surrogates to flippantly dismiss a war hero such as Sen. McCain’s military record and to attempt to DIMINISH such heroism is very similar to the despicable attempts to degrade, denigrate and diminish Sen. Hillary Clinton’s public service record and with the help of hte media misogynist frat-boys’ antics to push BHO to a fraudulent ‘finish-line’ of superdels.
How dare they?
To borrow Sen. Clinton’s words when she caught the Obama campaign red-handed in fraudulently misrepresenting her Universal health care platform in their carefully misconstrued brochures:
SHAME ON YOU!
“I have no doubt, I am sure that Sen. Hillary Clinton will make a great President” —Sen. John McCain in response to the late Tim Russert, Bagdad, 2005 (visit with Sen. Clinton)
RESPECT is not something that Obamabots know how to spell!
I believe that Obama made a big mistake in insulting a military hero who had the guts and courage to incur untold suffering than to leave the prisons. AFter all, his father could have applied some persuasion. Sen. McCain to his ENDURING HONOR, did not take the Easy Way Out. This is not something that Barack Hussein Obama understands. So, he’s attacking the unassailable record of Sen. McCain!
After the way he STOLE the elecition in Chicago in ‘96 from his benefactor AfricanAmerican Sen. Alice Palmer, and after he stole the nominationn from Sen. Hillary Clinton, this man is determined to vilify an icon of the American Military!
Surely, even political tricksters have the civility to APOLOGIZE TO SEN. MCCAIN! And Barack Obama should apologize IN PERSON, not through his talking heads as when he fired Father Plefger, the disgusting Pulpit Replacement to his uncle Jeremiah.
SHAME ON BARRY SOEROTO-BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA.
APOLOGIZE TO SEN. JOHN McCAIN NOW. PICK UP THE PHONE, AND BE A MAN. DON’T SEND WES CLARK (fired by Pres Clinton for butchering Bosnia and wanting to bomb the bridges and hospitals and civilians there!)TO DO YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY!
APOLOGIZE NOW,SEN. OBAMA!
This young boy in Indonesia left when he was 10 and went to live in Hawaii. Obama said in his first book:
“I always held and still have this deep resentment and hatred for my mother’s race”! No wonder he went to listen to the pornographer-at-the-pulpit and allowed his 2 young girls to witness his sexual simulation act on the pulpit for all these years!
He waited 20 years to make a speech on Healing and Unity and Love? Why did he make it only when he had to–to survive politically! What a phony!
How can voting for an American hero and an inexperienced empty suit from the sewers of Chicago politics be a real choice?!
A vote for McCain is a vote for Hillary
and
a Slap for this Great Impostor