Oppo Research on Obama’s Shifting, Finger-to-the-wind Iraq Stands
By NoQuarter on July 5, 2008 at 3:32 PM in Barack Obama, Commander in Chief, Flag officers, Foreign Policy, Foreign affairs, Iraq, Qualifications
Below you’ll find a detailed press release from the John McCain campaign that reflects the extraordinary coverage covering Obama’s shifting positions and statements about Iraq.
My note: I know so many Obama followers who flocked to Obama because he told them what they were desperate to hear, given their incalculable and understandable distress during the eight years of Bush/Cheney. They held against Hillary Clinton her vote in 2002, even though her Senate floor speech on October 10, 2002 made very clear her grave concerns and stated her warnings about the use of military force: “If we were to attack Iraq now, alone or with few allies, it would set a precedent that could come back to haunt us. … So Mr. President, for all its appeal, a unilateral attack, while it cannot be ruled out, on the present facts is not a good option. …”
Luckily for Mr. Obama, he wasn’t yet a U.S. Senator, so didn’t have to vote. In fact, in 2004, he said he wasn’t sure how he would have voted. Instead, Mr. Obama made a single speech on October 2, 2002 before 1,000 people in Chicago’s Federal Plaza that was not even mentioned by Chicago media. By 2006, war opponents, frantic to find a “savior,” flocked to Obama based on that one speech that was never followed by any further speeches or any further actions towards stopping or ending the Iraq war.
It’s quite something that he was able to exploit a single speech, unnoted at the time, to attract legions of followers. It’s quite something that, since no video or audio exists, his campaign media experts had to recreate his speech in a recording studio. It’s quite something that his followers continue to support him, even after he joined the U.S. Senate and voted exactly as did Hillary Clinton, except that she voted against Gen. George Casey while Obama voted for the unqualified general whose knowledge about troop and supply deficiencies were wholly inadequate, as Sen. Clinton’s grilling of Gen. Casey during a Senate hearing proved.
So, Obama’s followers have bought into his opposition to the Iraq war on rather threadbare proof: A single speech followed by, in the last 18 months, a lot of campaign rhetoric in rally speeches. Clear back in 2004, the late Tim Russert, on Meet The Press, exposed Obama’s shifting statements:
In July of `04, Barack Obama, “I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports. What would I have done? I don’t know,” in terms of how you would have voted on the war. And then this: “There’s not much of a difference between my position on Iraq and George Bush’s position at this stage.” That was July of `04. And this: “I think” there’s “some room for disagreement in that initial decision to vote for authorization of the war.” It doesn’t seem that you are firmly wedded against the war, and that you left some wiggle room that, if you had been in the Senate, you may have voted for it. (”Meet the Press,” 2004, via MyDD, Nov. 11, 2007)
So, it’s no surprise to me that the MSM has discovered what we here knew last year when we began investigating Obama’s real record on Iraq:
WHAT THEY’RE SAYING ABOUT BARACK OBAMA’S CHANGING IRAQ POSITION
For Immediate Release
Contact: Press Office
Saturday, July 5, 2008
“I Think This Is One Of The Biggest Things That’s Happened So Far In This General Election.” — Mark Halperin (CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees,” 7/3/08)
Barack Obama “Struggled” To Explain His Iraq Position, Called Do-Over Press Conference:
ABC News: “Barack Obama Struggled Thursday In Two Separate News Conferences To Explain His Plan To Withdraw U.S. Troops From Iraq.”
“Whatever happened to ‘absolute clarity’? Barack Obama struggled Thursday in two separate news conferences to explain his plan to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq.” (Teddy Davis, Sunlen Miller, and Gregory Wallace, “‘We’re Gonna Try This Again,’” ABC News’ “The Notes Sneak Peek,” 7/3/08)
· ABC News: “There’s Been Lots Of Speculation This Week About Whether Sen. Barack Obama Has An Iraq Problem. He Does Now.” (Rick Klein, “Obama’s Iraq Quagmire,” ABC News’ “Political Punch” Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, Posted 7/3/08)
· ABC’s John Berman: “He Felt The Need To Hold Two News Conferences To Clarify His Position.” (ABC’s “Good Morning America,” 7/4/08)
The Associated Press: Barack Obama “Struggled Thursday” To Explain His Iraq Position. “Democrat Barack Obama struggled Thursday to explain how his upcoming trip to Iraq might refine, but not basically alter, his promise to quickly remove U.S. combat troops from the war.” (Jennifer Loven, “Obama Says Iraq Trip Could Refine His Policy,” The Associated Press, 7/4/08)
· The Associated Press: Barack Obama Offered A “Messy Series Of Comments” On Iraq. “It was Obama’s messy series of comments Thursday, coming after weeks in which Republicans had been goading him to change his withdrawal policy in light of reduced violence, that put an unfortunate spotlight on his quandary.” (Jennifer Loven, “Obama’s Centrist Emphasis Gives GOP Ammo,” The Associated Press, 7/5/08)
CBS: Barack Obama Forced To Call “A Hastily Organized Press Conference.” “Barack Obama called a hastily organized press conference to clarify an earlier statement where he suggested he’d ‘refine’ his Iraq policy after he visits Iraq later this summer.” (Maria Gavrilovic, “Obama Clarifies Iraq Remarks,” CBS News, 7/3/08)
CNN’s Anderson Cooper: Obama “Scrambling To Explain His Position On Iraq.” CNN’S ANDERSON COOPER: “We begin though with Barack Obama scrambling to explain his position on Iraq. This morning, he seemed to open the door to changing his mind on a 16-month timetable for pulling troops out of Iraq.” (CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360 Degrees,” 7/3/08)
CNN’s Jessica Yellin: Barack Obama “Found Himself In An Odd Spot Holding A Do-Over Press Conference.” CNN’S JESSICA YELLIN: “Barack Obama faced a firestorm about whether he’s backing off the central pledge of his campaign, to withdraw combat troops from Iraq within 16 months of taking office. The concern became so intense, he found himself in an odd spot holding a do-over press conference.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 7/4/08)
Fox News: Barack Obama Was “Obviously Annoyed With Reporters.” “Obviously annoyed with reports that he’d hedged his position on troop withdrawals from Iraq after he told reporters that he would ‘continue to refine’ his policies after his upcoming visit to Iraq, the campaign held a second avail to attempt to clarify his views on the matter.” (Bonney Kapp, “Obama On Iraq Take Two,” Fox News, 7/3/08)
Los Angeles Times: Barack Obama “Struggled” To Explain His Position On Iraq In A Press Conference. “Barack Obama struggled Thursday to explain his plan to end the war in Iraq, calling a rare do-over news conference to insist that he was not softening his campaign pledge to withdraw all combat troops within 16 months of becoming president.” (Peter Nicholas, “Republicans Seize On Obama’s Comments On Iraq,” Los Angeles Times, 7/4/08)
NBC’s Lester Holt: “Obama Suddenly Founding Himself Working Hard To Explain” His Iraq Position. NBC’S LESTER HOLT: “It is the eve of the Independence Day holiday, and while most Americans were settling in for a leisurely long weekend, late this afternoon Barack Obama suddenly found himself working hard to explain something he said earlier today about ending the war in Iraq.” (NBC’s “Nightly News,” 7/3/08)
New York Daily News: Barack Obama “Struggled To Explain” His Iraq Position. “Barack Obama said Thursday he may ‘refine’ his 16-month timetable for getting out of Iraq — and then struggled to explain what he meant after Republicans branded him a flip-flopper.” (Michael McAuliff, “GOP Pounces As Barack Obama Says Iraq Exit Plan Could Be ‘Refined,’” New York Daily News, 7/3/08)
Reuters: Barack Obama “Forced To call Reporters Back For A Second News Conference.” “Obama was forced to call reporters back for a second news conference in Fargo, North Dakota, after he initially left open the possibility of revising his 16-month timetable for pulling U.S. combat forces from Iraq.” (John Whitesides, “Obama Wades Into Controversy With Iraq Comments,” Reuters, 7/3/08)
Barack Obama “Opening The Door To Altering His Iraq Policy”:
The Associated Press: “Democrat Barack Obama Is Opening The Door To Altering His Iraq Policy.” (Jennifer Loven, “Obama Opens Door To Altering Iraq Policy,” The Associated Press, 7/3/08)
The Associated Press: Barack Obama “Acknowledged That The 16-Month Timeline Could Indeed Slip If Removing Troops Risked Their Safety Or Iraqi Stability.” “After his remark at a news conference about refining policy exploded onto the political scene, he called a do-over four hours later to ‘try this again.’ He said the refining wouldn’t be related to his promise to remove combat forces within 16 months of taking office, but to the number of troops needed to train Iraqis and fight al-Qaida. But then he acknowledged that the 16-month timeline could indeed slip if removing troops risked their safety or Iraqi stability.” (Jennifer Loven, “Obama’s Centrist Emphasis Gives GOP Ammo,” The Associated Press, 7/5/08)
CBS’ Dean Reynolds: “Obama Sounded Surprisingly Willing To Change His Position On Iraq.” CBS’ DEAN REYNOLDS: “In North Dakota today, Barack Obama sounded surprisingly willing to change his position on Iraq. … But the statement about refining his position paled next to the applause-winning declarations that carried him through the primaries.” (CBS’ “Evening News,” 7/3/08)
CNN’s Jessica Yellin: “When Pressed, He Refused To Commit To That 16-Month Time Frame, Insisting Any Good Commander-In-Chief Adjusts.” (CNN’s “Newsroom,” 7/4/08)
Fox News’ Major Garrett: “Speaking Of The Battlefield, Obama Is Creating New Room To Maneuver On The Question Of Withdrawing U.S. Combat Forces From Iraq.” (Fox News’ “Special Report With Brit Hume,” 7/4/08)
Los Angeles Times: Barack Obama “Has Carefully Hedged” On Iraq. “In the past, Obama has stressed his plan to begin a withdrawal immediately and complete it within 16 months. But he has carefully hedged, leaving the option of taking more time if needed.” (Peter Nicholas, “Republicans Seize On Obama’s Comments On Iraq,” Los Angeles Times, 7/4/08)
· Los Angeles Times: Barack Obama “Seemed Just Now To Signal A Softened Position On His Time Line For Withdrawing Troops From Iraq.” “Our colleague Peter Nicholas, trailing along after Barack Obama in Fargo, North Dakota, reports that Obama seemed just now to signal a softened position on his time line for withdrawing troops from Iraq.” (Scott Martelle, “Is Barack Obama Softening His Iraq Withdrawal Timeline?” Los Angeles Times’ “Top Of The Ticket” Blog, http://latimesblogs.latimes.com, Posted 7/3/08)
NBC’s Lee Cowan: “The Campaign Is Quick To Point Out That It Would Be Irresponsible For The Senator Not To At Least Leave Open The Possibility Of Learning Something On His Trip To Iraq That Might Change His Positions. Otherwise, As One Adviser Put It, ‘What’s The Point Of Making That Trip In The First Place?’” (NBC’s “Nightly News,” 7/3/08)
The New York Post: Barack Obama “Left The Door Open” To Changing His Iraq Policies. “Barack Obama, who ran hard during the Democratic primaries on an anti-Iraq-war message, yesterday left the door open to ‘refining’ his 16-month troop-withdrawal plan as he prepares for a Mideast trip.” (Maggie Haberman, “Obama Pulls About-Face,” The New York Post, 7/4/08)
The New York Times: “There Have Been Increasing Signs Of Debate Among Democrats — And Seemingly Among Some Obama Advisers — About What To Do In Iraq.” (Michael Cooper and Jeff Zeleny, “Obama Fuels Pullout Debate With Remarks,” The New York Times, 7/4/08)
The Washington Post: Barack Obama “Left Open The Possibility” That He Would Slow His 16-Month Withdrawal Plan. “Sen. Barack Obama left open the possibility of slowing his promised, 16-month withdrawal of combat forces from Iraq, saying he would consult with military commanders on an upcoming trip to the region to ensure a withdrawal would keep troops safe and Iraq stable.” (Jonathan Weisman, “Obama Softens On Iraq Withdrawal Timeline,” The Washington Post’s “The Trail” Blog, http://blog.washingtonpost.com, Posted 7/3/08)
· The Washington Post: “Today’s Comments From Obama Were The Most Extended On The Issue, And They Leaned Hard Toward Flexibility, Even As He Said His Position Has Not Shifted.” (Jonathan Weisman, “Obama Softens On Iraq Withdrawal Timeline,” The Washington Post’s “The Trail” Blog, http://blog.washingtonpost.com, Posted 7/3/08)
The Washington Post’s Charles Krauthammer: Barack Obama Will Change His Iraq Position Very Soon. “Two weeks ago, I predicted that by Election Day Obama will have erased all meaningful differences with McCain on withdrawal from Iraq. I underestimated Obama’s cynicism. He will make the move much sooner. He will use his upcoming Iraq trip to finally acknowledge the remarkable improvements on the ground and to formally abandon his primary season commitment to a fixed 16-month timetable for removal of all combat troops.” (Charles Krauthammer, Op-Ed, “A Man of Seasonal Principles,” The Washington Post, 7/4/08)
· Krauthammer: Barack Obama’s “Shift Has Already Begun.” “The shift has already begun. Yesterday, he said that his ‘original position’ on withdrawal has always been that ‘we’ve got to make sure that our troops are safe and that Iraq is stable.’ And that ‘when I go to Iraq … I’ll have more information and will continue to refine my policies.’” (Charles Krauthammer, Op-Ed, “A Man of Seasonal Principles,” The Washington Post, 7/4/08)
· Krauthammer: Even Though Obama Has Yet To Go Back To Iraq, “The Flip Is Almost Complete.” “He hasn’t even gone to Iraq and the flip is almost complete. All that’s left to say is that the 16-month time frame remains his goal but that he will, of course, take into account the situation on the ground and the recommendation of his generals in deciding whether the withdrawal is to occur later or even sooner.” (Charles Krauthammer, Op-Ed, “A Man of Seasonal Principles,” The Washington Post, 7/4/08)
Barack Obama’s Openness To Refining His Position At Odds With Previous Commitments:
ABC News: Barack Obama’s “Openness To Adjust His 16-Month Withdrawal Plan Was Somewhat At Odds” With Previous Comments. “Obama’s openness to adjust his 16-month withdrawal plan was somewhat at odds with the stance he took during a recent ABC News debate. At the time, Obama seemed to stand by his campaign manager’s unambiguous pledge to have troops out of Iraq in 16 months ‘at the most.’” (Teddy Davis, Sunlen Miller, and Gregory Wallace, “‘We’re Gonna Try This Again,’” ABC News’ “The Notes Sneak Peek,” 7/3/08)
The Politico: Barack Obama “Backed Off His Firm Promise To Withdraw Combat Forces From Iraq Immediately.” “Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Thursday backed off his firm promise to withdraw combat forces from Iraq immediately and instead said he could ‘refine’ his plan after his trip to Baghdad later this month.” (Mike Allen, “Obama To ‘Refine’ Iraq Plan,” The Politico, 7/3/08)
Barack Obama Playing Politics With Iraq Position:
ABC News: Barack Obama Will Be “Unlikely To Give A Direct, Yes-Or-No Answer” When Asked Where He Stands On His Iraq Plan. “There will be only one relevant question now out of Obama’s trip now: Do you stand by your plan? Obama is unlikely to give a direct, yes-or-no answer — and that’s where Sen. John McCain and his allies can and will pounce.” (Rick Klein, “Obama’s Iraq Quagmire,” ABC News’ “Political Punch” Blog, http://blogs.abcnews.com, Posted 7/3/08)
Fox News: Barack Obama In The General Election “Has Been Talking Less About Troop Withdrawal.” “But now as Obama enters the general election and hopes to compete for a wider range of voters, he has been talking less about troop withdrawal - something he explained was because he’d been spending a lot of time talking about the economy.” (Bonney Kapp, “Obama Keeps Iraq Options Open,” Fox News, 7/3/08)
The New York Times: Barack Obama “Recently Spoken Less About Withdrawal.” “With violence ebbing in Iraq, however, he has recently spoken less about withdrawal and has increasingly emphasized the failure to achieve political reconciliation in that country.” (Michael Cooper and Jeff Zeleny, “Obama Fuels Pullout Debate With Remarks,” The New York Times, 7/4/08)
The Wall Street Journal: Lately, Barack Obama Has Left Out His Pledge To Withdraw Troops Within 16 Months From His Public Speeches. “According to the Obama campaign Website Sen. Obama would move one to two combat brigades a month home from Iraq and have “all [U.S.] combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months.” But lately he has left out the phrase ‘16 months’ entirely.” (Amy Chozick, “Obama Defines His Position On Iraq War,” The Wall Street Journal, 7/4/08)
In The Headlines:
(Rick Klein, “Obama’s Iraq Quagmire,” ABC News “Political Punch” Blog, 7/3/08)
The Associated Press: “Obama Opens Door To Altering Iraq Policy”
(Jennifer Loven, “Obama Opens Door To Altering Iraq Policy,” The Associated Press, 7/3/08)
Chicago Tribune: “Obama May ‘Refine’ Iraq Policy”
(Katie Fretland, “Obama May ‘Refine’ Iraq Policy,” Chicago Tribune’s “The Swamp” Blog, 7/3/08)
Fox News: “Obama Keeps Iraq Options Open”
(Bonney Kapp, “Obama Keeps Iraq Options Open,” Fox News’ “Fox Embedded” Blog, 7/3/08)
The Hill: “Obama Says Slower Iraq Withdrawal Possible”
(Ian Swanson, “Obama Says Slower Iraq Withdrawal Possible,” The Hill, 7/3/08)
Los Angeles Times: “Is Barack Obama Softening His Iraq Withdrawal Timeline?”
(Scott Martelle, “Is Barack Obama Softening His Iraq Withdrawal Timeline?” Los Angeles Times’ “Top Of The Ticket” Blog, 7/3/08)
The Politico: “Obama Rewrites Iraq Plan”
(Mike Allen, “Obama Rewrites Iraq Plan,” The Politico, 7/3/08)
New York Post: “Obama Pulls About-Face”
(Maggie Haberman, “Obama Pulls About-Face,” New York Post, 7/4/08)
The New York Times: “Obama Fuels Pullout Debate With Remarks”
(Michael Cooper and Jeff Zeleny, “Obama Fuels Pullout Debate With Remarks,” The New York Times, 7/4/08)
The New York Times: “Obama: Open To ‘Refine’ Iraq Withdrawal Timeline”
(Jeff Zeleny, “Obama: Open to ‘Refine’ Iraq Withdrawal Timeline,” The New York Times’ “The Caucus” Blog, 7/3/08)
Reuters: “Obama Says He Might ‘Refine’ His Iraq Position”
(John Whitesides, “Obama Says He Might ‘Refine’ His Iraq Position,” Reuters, 7/3/08)
Time: “Obama Plans To ‘Refine’ Iraq Plan”
(Mark Halperin, “Obama Plans to ‘Refine’ Iraq Plan,” Time’s “The Page” Blog, 7/3/08)
The Wall Street Journal: “Obama’s Iraq Plan May Be Refined”
(Amy Chozick, “Obama’s Iraq Plan May Be Refined,” The Wall Street Journal’s “Washington Wire” Blog, 7/3/08)
The Washington Post: “Obama May Consider Slowing Iraq Withdrawal”
(Jonathan Weisman, “Obama May Consider Slowing Iraq Withdrawal,” The Washington Post, 7/4/08)
The Washington Post: “Obama Softens On Iraq Withdrawal Timeline”
(Jonathan Weisman, “Obama Softens on Iraq Withdrawal Timeline,” The Washington Post’s “The Trail” Blog, 7/3/08)
The Weekly Standard: “The Mother Of All Flip-Flops”
(John McCormack, “The Mother of All Flip-Flops,” The Weekly Standard’s “The Blog,” 7/3/08)
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For more on the ever-shifting Obama on Iraq, please see my story, “Obama Talks the Talk, But Where’s the Walk?”
Footnote: Mr. Obama’s real views on Iraq are of the gravest importance because, as we all know, the huge expenditures in money and lives have affected every other government budget and forced cutbacks on programs urgently needed by American citizens.
If Mr. Obama hasn’t the REAL RESOLVE — and the in-depth knowledge of the military, veterans, and all affected government programs required to execute an intelligently-planned withdrawal — he is not of presidential timber.
Hillary Clinton is made of the stuff required for the Oval Office: Resolve, intelligence, “wonky” political knowledge, and a constant search for the best information. Compare the voting records and statements of both Sens. Clinton and Obama regarding the nomination of Gen. George Casey:
What about Obama’s voting record in the U.S. Senate on Iraq? TPM Election Central painstakingly compared every single vote on Iraq by Sens. Clinton and Obama, since Obama entered the Senate. Senators Clinton and Obama voted identically, except once: On the confirmation of “General George Casey to be Chief of Staff for the Army, held just this past February. Hillary voted against confirmation, while Obama voted to confirm.” Why did Sen. Clinton vote against Gen. Casey’s confirmation?
During his nomination hearing to be Army Chief of Staff, I questioned General Casey about recent reports, both by the Department of Defense Inspector General and press accounts, that units and personnel lacked the necessary equipment. General Casey responded that was not aware of the problems cited in these reports and actually quite surprised at the reported shortcomings. In the Inspector General report’s summary, the equipment shortages were attributed to basic management failures among military commanders in Iraq and Afghanistan. General Casey was not aware of this investigation or its recommendations that oversight must immediately improve to ensure proper distribution of equipment; as a result units and personnel are not able to perform assign missions. — From “Statement of Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton on the Vote on Confirmation of General George W. Casey to be Army Chief of Staff,” Feb. 8, 2007
How did Sen. Obama defend his vote for Gen. Casey?
“It is a bit unseemly that General Casey is being made the scapegoat for a war that never should have been fought and for a failed strategy dictated by the civilian leadership in the White House. The President, Vice President and other civilian officials set forth an unworkable strategy with inadequate resources and did not listen to the advice of generals on the ground. They are the ones ultimately responsible for the current situation in Iraq. I hope General Casey will get more support for his new mission, which is so important to the country. I want to see General Casey use his experience in Iraq to ensure that the civilian leadership in Washington understands the challenges faced and resources needed by today’s Army.”
That’s it. That’s the entire press release. Not a word about Gen. Casey’s failure to know about the crisis in equipment shortages or the “basic management failures” during Gen. Casey’s own time in Iraq or the Inspector General’s shocking report.
While I fully sympathize with the attraction to Obama based on a single speech in 2002, it is not enough. A more thorough investigation and dissection of Obama’s wildly varying statements on Iraq are required by his followers.

Waffles is in trouble again. Great job Susan!
As long as Rezko’s Iraq deal was on track, Obama was for the war. When Rezko’s deal fell through, Obama changed his mind. Again. Strange.
Obama, in his own words, in 2004:
“No, no, I’ve never said that troops should be withdrawn.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kFrFIFizkU
Thank you again Susan…Well done.
Excellent work..keep fighting for the truth.
What size of flip flops does he use. Like Britney Spears says, OOPS I DID IT AGAIN!!
Obama’s Response to FISA Backlash, Creates More Backlash
This was also on that site:
Add: NAFTA restrictions, pro-choice, mental health parity, separation of church and state and of course:
18 MILLION CLINTON SUPPORTERS!
He dragged his white gramma out from under the bus for his speech yesterday.
Shouldn’t Florida be here?
If it wasn’t so sad, I’d be laughing my ass off at the obamabots for being suckered by this flim-flam-flip-flop guy.
Walking the walk is so important, but Obama and his bots don’t even listen to their own ‘talk’. It’s mind blowing on every level.
Wake up, wake up (a song from the wizard of oz is on my mind, but I forget the munchkin words..)
all this mess just goes to show his memory is failing..at such a young age too..he is like a revolving door..wonder if he knows how to go through one.
Early onset dementia can hit in your 40’s. I saw it happen to an inlaw. 44 yrs old.
or coke head
AND HE HIT HER OVER THE HEAD with his
I-will-get-our-troops-out, I’m-the-peace-candidate crappola.
The Obama kids don’t understand the difference between moving to the center in the general election, and LYING TO THE VOTERS during the primaries.
I say, let’s welcome disaffected Obama-ites to join us in supporting Senator Clinton’s nomination.
if you meet any
let us know and send them here
(I’d lovvvvvvvvvvvve to hear their story (excuse) how they stayed sooooooo long)
Lets face it. Obama is just a liar. He has done it all his life. His so called autobiography is a panoply of lies. His Dreams from his father was just that, dreams based on hopey dopey. And the Il senate was all based on PR, Bull and lies. And his campaign to steal the primary was based on lies, intimidation, corruption, bribery and smoke and mirrors. His move to the center is just another way of telling everyone that he is just like Bush. All hat, no cattle. He can and will do anything he damn well pleases. Just the fact that he and the DNC stole those 4 votes in Michigan was a typical F*** You moment with his one finger salute scratching his nose along with the shoulder and shoe brush off. Mr. petulant frat boy with an ego the size of Montana and a brain the size of my fingernail and courage the size of his humility.
Waffles is waffling on his previous waffling:
Obama: Response to Iraq remarks overblown
Earlier in the day as he flew from Montana to Missouri, Obama told reporters he was surprised at how the media has “finely calibrated” his recent words on Iraq, and reaffirmed his commitment to ending the war if elected.
“I was a little puzzled by the frenzy that I set off by what I thought was a pretty innocuous statement,” he said. “I am absolutely committed to ending the war.”
On Thursday in North Dakota, Obama said that “I’ll … continue to refine my policy” on Iraq after an upcoming trip there. With a promise to end the war the central premise of his candidacy, the Obama campaign has struggled over the past two days to push back against Republicans and others who say his recent statement could be a softening or change in policy.
Obama has always said his promise to end the war would require consultations with military commanders and, possibly, flexibility.
“The tactics of how we ensure our troops are safe as we pull out, how we execute the withdrawal, those are things that are all based on facts and conditions,” he said. “I am not somebody — unlike George Bush — who is willing to ignore facts on the basis of my preconceived notions.”
see, see! It’s just like George W.
I no longer believe anything he says and I can’t stand to watch his arrogant smug face any longer.
It’s exactly my physical reaction to Barry! To Rush, To Cheney, To Lynne Cheney, To Malkin (I know some of you like her), To everything MSNBO except Pat B. To MOST things CNN.
It’s sad. The TV rarely goes on any longer.
Same here with the “news” shows.
“The tactics of how we ensure our troops are safe as we pull out, how we execute the withdrawal, those are things that are all based on facts and conditions,” he said.
Correction: THAT was Hillary’s consistent position, Mr. Superior Judgment.
Still stealing from her…
preconceived notions
That is all BO is.
“do-over” press conference…
ah hah ahah ahh
doesn’t look very presidential… even with his pretend presidential seal…
what an idiot…
a. hillary
b. mccain
america first!
Problem is that there is no recording of this supposed speech, and all we have as proof is the word of a few SDS’s (some say 1000 were there, some say only 350 were at the rally).
So last year Axerod and Obama recreated the speech, and people are to trust this recreation, from astroturf king Axelrod and pathological liar Obama, sure, after Obama recalls all his books to correct all the blatant lies in them!
Maybe Miclle Obama was speaking the truth about finally being proud of her country, because she finally discovered that she isn’t the only American to have been sucked into believing Barack’s continual lies
It’s all about marketing: my brother repeated to me insistently last week that OBAMA VOTED AGAINST THE WAR!
That was the illusion they sold, and Americans bought it. The “fairy tale” Bill was warning about, and they tried to shut him up by screaming “RACIST!”
Someone please explain to me, because I’ve never understood it: “How does a fabrication of his war record = racism?”
Oh, I guess the way the charge of “inexperience” = racism (thank you Gov. Sebelius).
The Obamabots really do believe that he “voted against the war” — I’ve had so many of the creeps tell me that.
And we know that is a lie — a flat out lie.
How do we know Obama is lying? His lips are moving.
I do believe that bushie waited before he started lying to the extend that Obama is lying BEFORE he is even the nominee — right now Obama is on the presumptive whatever.
Funny NW
I gave the same speech back in 2002.
That doesn’t mean I’m running for president.
Both Dean and Obama gave great speeches but didn’t have to face a vote which could have labeled them unpatriotic.
People forget that we had been attacked just a year previously.
Jim Baghdad McDermott our great congress man from Seattle voted against Afganistan and Iraq. What a sorry unpatriotic SOB he is.
thats my problem with the brother he is to stupid to know what is racist and what is not. In fact it was that right there–Obama calling Bill a racist that made me decide right there and then that I am not voting for someone like that. Its not racist its disagreeing with a black man= disagreeing with a black man. Oh and Obamabots do not try to give me no crap I am an African American so therefore if you disagree with me you must be racist.
God. If only I could “recreate” my first marriage and say “heck no ….”
Can I get a do-over of my finals?
Hahahaahah. Let me guess, you were young and he had a nice butt.
No, sadly I was almost 30 and my body was saying stupid things about having babies …..
DAMN YOU OVARIES!!!!
In the IT industry, that is called vaporware.
Slightly off-topic: I suspect that the next president will find himself in a predicament like Jimmy Carter did.
I don’t think Carter was a bad president. I think that in the late ’70s, this country had so many bills, literal and metaphorical, coming due that those would have been bad years no matter who was president. I think if Reagan had been nominated and elected in 1976, he would have been a one-term prez just like Carter in the real world. Nobody could have come out of those four years looking good.
Likewise, I think the next four years are going to be hellacious for this country, and whatever poor sucker is president will serve only one term. Hence, the best thing for the Democrats would be to lose the White House this time, and retake it in 2012.
Waffles. I like that one, anon.
Anyone read through Waffle’s site when he tried to explain himself about FISA? Many obamabots knelt down and kissed his feet, chanting what a great man he was and offered up their sacrificial donations. Then again, we all know many of those bots are paid to worship him on his site. Other bots seemed to be waking up.
Thank GOD
This means I can take another break.
BBL
Peace
PUMA POWER!!
Unity in NO Unity at all!
Better than being Consistent in our In-consistencies!
And just what PROOF is there that Barrack Obama actually gave that 2002 antiwar speech? How do we know that Obama didn’t give a speech in 2003 before a small group that was a pro war speech? The only thing we do know about Obama is his propensity to give speeches and to change positions. Since the 2002 speech was never taped I would not be surprised if he gave a pro war speech near the same time. His handlers probably had him give two speeches to cover their bets. He does have a way with words. “I am opposed to this war, but on the other hand we must stand strong against the terrorists and do what it takes to defeat the enemies of this country”!!! This is how Obama operates. He then can say he made any statement he needs to have made to mollify his “public”.
October 2, 2002. 1000 people in Federal Plaza in Chicago. A speech given. No transcript. No reporting of said speech in the press. No audio. No video. Larry, why not come out and say what we are all thinking: WAS THE SPEECH EVEN GIVEN? I mean, “a” speech was given, but was “the” speech given? I would not put it past this man at all to completely fabricate the words of that speech for later political profit, just as he completely fabricated many of the details in his so-called autobiographies. Just as he fabricated the details of his family stories and “uncle at Asuchwitz”, etc. etc. I find it strange and, frankly, unbelievable that no one recorded his words or did a homemade video out the supposed 1000 that were there.
What blog first wrote about that speech? Who kept the story going?
he just does not seem capable of processing what is so obvious here:
of course intelligent people change their minds, duh!
but he bludgeoned Clinton with his leftier-than-thou crap, and now he’s “changing” his mind back to HER positions.
HELLO!
It is disturbing that so many of Obama’s followers are now giving Obama and others a pass on FISA, Iraq and all their other flip-flops because, “that’s the way political life is.” Yet just one month ago they were still condemning Hillary as a political opportunist for her voting record.
Vote McCain in November. John McCain has been completely honest in his positions.
NO, the people saying this are the paid Obama bloggers. There are and always have been way more of them then we think. Right from the earliest days.
There is a noted distinction between Obama and Clinton: he is essentially concerned about how a thing looks, while Hillary wants to know that it works!
One is a doer while the other postures for the cameras. Hillary has proved it over and over, while Obama has shown us nothing. That ‘community organizer thing never was much to strut about in the first place, and after reading and learning how little the lives of his constituents were changed, he’d be better served if he stopped crowing about it. People have listened, have learned and are just now beginning to realize that they’ve been hornswaggled!
Amen. Oblahablah is format over content and style over substance. He is an empty suit monumentally unqualified to be president.
and we thought kerry was a flipper
he was amateur compared to back track
he is truly the professional
flip flopper
Nobody has the education and intellectual capacity Barack Obama possesses. So stop questioning him.
jedi effect ?
$7/hr –good job
Should be getting minimum wage.
LOL! NOBODY????? There are thousands of people that have graduated from Harvard Law nimwit. Bill Clinton, a Yale Law Graduate (just as prestigious FYI) was ALSO a Rhodes Scholar.
“Stop questioning him?” Are you on drugs? Do you actually have a mind or did you get an Obotolotomy?
You would have made a great Hitler youth. “DO NOT QUESTION AUTHORITY…”
Nothing can have value without being an object of utility.
Karl Marx
USSR;I guess that leaves you out.
Go tear down your wall.
Then you are completely useless.
I gues that means you’re worthless.
Wahahahahahahahahahahahahah
tampagurl — do these people really believe this crap. “intellectual capacity”?
No body else has gone to college?
What a load of crap!
Thanks for catching this cult speak from an Obamabutt thug and replaying it.
Damn these Obamabutt thugs are as dumb as rocks.
THANK GOD! One deluded unqualified junior Senator is enough!
I bought a melon today. It seems pretty close.
PUUULEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hussein is a stoned, lying idiot!
what intellectual capacity? he can’t even talk without a teleprompter, and he certainly has not studied the issue.
My guess is that he was always a plagerizer–even at Harvard.
obama is about deception, not intelligence. he is deeply emotionally troubled, can’t handle women or conflict. hiding behind his skin color. playing victim.
he will change is position on iraq. by the end of the summer he will be no different than McCain.
no, the guy is too smart for his own britches and is not fooling me at all.
Hillary or McCain, ‘08.
Bambi needs to step down.
Nobody has the education and intellectual capacity Barack Obama possesses
Ain’t that the truth! Except maybe a sea anemia
Snark.
It’s pathetic that people think Obama voted against the war.
One of my kids thinks that.
Nothing I say seems to make a difference. It’s like they are hypnotized!
OMG they’ve been bamboozled!!!
do you know the name of the first president born west of the mississippi?
see if you can figure out the presidential trivia…
http://thevote.abc13.com/2008/07/wed-like-to-tha.html
I think it was James Madison.
It was Herbert Hoover. Do I get a T-shirt or what?
Angry at Their Puppet’s Flip-Flops: Daily Kos, MoveOn.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoTuLfCYa_A
No, actually the McCain campaign is not waiting until after the convention. I read an article day before yesterday about McCain hiring a new campaign manager and they are going to start punching back at Obama right away. The article said after the 4th of July weekend.
Can’t wait! Pass the popcorn.
Read the other day some McCain people went to Kenya.
Extra butter?
well weve always guessed that new york times was a communist rag, now we have proof, they have no problem giving out cia agents…and national security information..why in the world would anyone buy a rag that doesnt have a problem selling america out? and if they are so worried about protecting us, why havent they told the truth about obama? what about larry sinclair? what about..the slum landlord deals .?? could it be because soros dont want that out…yet